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Come be an angry head with me!(102 Posts)
It's nothing in particular just the usual little things that sets ds apart. Plus I'm really tired, plus tired of running after dd 2 who thinks everytime I say " come on this way" it's an invitation to play chase.
And I wish ds ASD would just piss off and leave my little fella be.
Come join the angry thread and get it out of your system - wish there was a scary head emoction
does this have to be about our DCs?
i need a rant...
Oh and my next door neighbour has got rats in his garden - do you think the shit head has done anything about it? No he fucking hasn't - if one if those comes into my house - he'd better go into hiding
about school, not just any old rant
Uncharted - get ranting, see above post about bastard rats
i'll start then
fucking hell, what the fuck does it take to make a phone call and say 'yes, UnChartered, i've spoken to the class teacher and she's giving miniU-C different homework now, and will be taken out of her class for spellings test' instead of 2 calls from a secretary telling me you can't call me at 'x' o'clock and making another time, then cancelling that phone appt, hiding in your office at a 'meeting' and then getting a different secretary to call to say you'll pop in during the 10 mins slot we've booked at parents evening?
not a lot is my guess, but if that's the path you're choosing then i can't wait for the CAF to be put in place.
and Parent Partnership are due here today to start PR for SA
no ner <tongue out emoticon>
that feels better
and some arsewipe tried to nick our wheelie bin - DH had to rescue it from their drive
and they'd already started to use it <stern looks over the road and big deep voice emoticon>
I've felt pretty fed up all week. I'm back to work in 3 weeks from maternity leave & found out the childminder who was going to take my eldest to school has decided she can't do it, which has really upset my son as we've been discussing it for weeks to prepare him & i've managed to get him to talk to her nicely everytime we see her at school & he was actually looking forward to it. My DH is away working most of the week, ive got a baby who is refusing o sleep at the moment, i'm exhausted. To top it off my eldest has been really hostile with me all week. I put my arm around him & told him i'd missed him today to which he replied "i didn't miss you. I don't love you, i love daddy". I know he probably doesn't mean it but it still hurts like hell. Just completely pissed off that i'm running around like a headless chicken all day trying to run a house look after 2 children (inc a SN) by myself to be told that when golden balls daddy (no offence DH) isn't here yet he is the hero. Really sorry for the rant, i know theres hundreds of people who have ten times more issues to deal with but just feeling sorry for myself.
That's it get it all out
absolute arsewipes - uncharted
Hally - arse of a childminder, and don't apologise anger doesn't need to be quantified - you just need to rant. I also run around like a headless chicken and also have a golden balls daddy. Annoys the hell out if me
Uncharted - date you to paint on the bin - "step away from the bin bitch"
i could just let DD keep guard and she could tell them
she likes things in the rightful place...
Nothing like a bit of shame is there - mwah Hahahahaha - need an evil laugh emoction now
You could change your broadband name to frizzcats suggestion?
One of my neighbours has the name' bigbollox'
I've narrowed it down.
<<narrows eyes>> wondering how trout narrows that down??? Thinking that could be quite amusing, what so of measuring tape could be used? Wondering whether to move to trouts street..... Sounds more fun
Ds had a really disappointing interview at college yesterday. I had requested someone from the Sn department... But there was no one . It was clear the wanky woman interviewing him had no idea about what she was dealing with and clearly hadn't even read the application form. She clearly made assumptions about him as soon as he walked in... And then made judgements based on his slow responses and reluctance to
ponce off about himself talk
Really depressing actually... It was a jolt to the system for me...a reminder of just how difficult it will be for him coming up against such wankery.
After I got a bit shirty... She went downstairs and read the reports that they have on him... And then came back a different person! She even offered him a place on the course she runs if he doesn't get the grades he needs for A Levels
Errr nah thanks lady...think well be steering clear of that one
I'm just going to moan about the hv, so ds has possible as, rang her up yesterday in tears after a particularly trying day ds was totally dangerous while I was driving, anyways after now being referred for various services she says oh I was just about to phone u! Been here 18 months and ds is 3.5 and never seen hide nor hair of her! Then she has the cheek to say, 'have u not noticed anything about ds before?' Well er no because I didn't know what I was looking for and his toe walking was pointed out a routine asthma appointment which has kicked it all off so maybe just MAYBE if u had done ur job and visited when we moved to the area this would of been picked up on!!!!!! Grrrrr now the cow is coming round this afternoon............
Anyway mannnnnnnn this felt good thanks!!!! Xxx
Im fed up too. Cant seem to get dd2 to do anything I ask. Shes 3.5 nt and is more hard work that dd 6 poss as at the moment. She keeps taking her seatbelt off and walking around the car while im driving. Ive tried everything she can get out of everything. She never listens, runs off at school, I cant even put her in a pushchair as she can undo everything. She is so violent to other dds aswell. She constantly on the go can not sit still or concentrate. Always does the opposite to what you say. Nursery have no issues say she bright for her age, good understanding. I was wondering about speeking to someone about her but my dh says that I shudnt try and label all our dds. This comment had just tipped me over the edge, all I ment was I have tried normal parenting things and is not working im not out for a label just some advise to make my life a little more plesent rather than doing battle over everything!! Sorry to go on.
HV and stupid college people are now on the bastard list along with bin thieves, stupid school people, unreliable child minders and rats - I'm starting me a spreadsheet.
Ree - repeat after me "I'm a strong confident woman and I'm going make this HV get her arse in gear ...... Otherwise she just won't leave my house"
Wooly u have just described my ds, this is why I want said
bastard ahem hv to kick everyone in to gear so I can access services and help, seat belts don't mean anything to ds at all.......tried threatening him with police but he doesn't give two hoots!
Haha frizz she ain't bloody leaving she can dam well do her job!!
This is sooo therapeutic! I really like it ....a lot!!!
Wooly - I'm not sure who/what I should be submitting to the bastard list - car seat or your dh? Or both. They can come off if you think they deserve to
Ree- yes it is Theraputic, there's hope I won't get arrested for GBH today on anyone who looks at me the wrong way
Okay little rant from me to the person who I have just spent the morning with. Please do not patronise me and suggest I start thinking about things that I have done nothing but think about for six months. Please do tell me what, as a mummy, you would do in my shoes. Because you are not the mummy of my child. You have not just had the year from hell and you know nothing about our home life and the impact on it because you haven't actually spoken to me in a year. So be grateful that I am not using emotional blackmail back at you. And please don't tell me that you would not want me to think that you don't want my child in your school, because that is exactly what you mean. Or rather that is what your senior colleague means, only they are too afraid to sit in a room with me and say it themselves and prefer to earwig through the wall of the frickin office next door.
Oh and another thing. To the person I live with, if you are too much of a chicken to attend the meetings yourself or read the medical reports, then don't blame me if you can get to grips with what the eff is going on here. And this is about our child's well being and happiness, not about when I can do more work to pay off the mortgage
spend on golf clubs
And breathe again.
For limboli ....
It's good to just rant it out sometimes ... Yes?
Spreadsheet also good
Frizz def dh, hes so hurt me. He works away so cant understand why im fighting off a breakdown with 3 dds under 6. One with possible as who I have been fighting for a dx for 4, yes 4 long lonley years. Dd2 is a nightmare, was the perfect baby and at 18 months I realy dont know what happened. But is an angel at nursery? Dd3 is nearly 2 but shes great have just normal issues with her. I sometimes think its me, im doing it all wrong.
Reec _ have u any tips? I also tell dd2 that the police will stop our car and mummy will be in lots of trouble. Her answer "will the police man ring daddy so he can come and look after the children" I just didnt know what to say. How can she have that thought process at 3.5!! I dont have any issues with her learning, its her behaviour. I dread bed times its a constant battle!!
To portage worker please don't tell me to be honest with dp about choice of school on dds statement however much he and I disagree I wouldn't lie!
apople appoplec appop fucking raging in my socks after that meeting
no written evidence at school = almost instant refusal for SA?
not on my nelly <ramps up the ante>
i am the parent of a child with ASD, SPD and possibly PDA - HEAR ME
Thank you trout spout, I am drinking it right now :-)
Oh god I'm off again. I mean seriously, THANK GOODNESS the school called me in. Otherwise my silly little head might not have thought of thinking about the future ad I may have filed my son's statement away in my make up drawer or used it for noughts and crosses.
Limbos arse person on the list - subsection patronising bastard
In addition to "person she lives with" - subsection ostrich bastard
Wooly's dh on there - with advisory note that wooly should take herself of one day, one weekend as Frizzcat feels sure dh will "get it" then. Frizzcat also did this after crying to dh that I was at the end if my tether and he wasn't helping. Dh response was: "we'll everyone else does it" . After his little day alone, he's a lot more sympathetic
Autumns portage worker added - also under subsection patronising bastard
Think we need to add limbos make up drawer to the ostrich subsection as its clearly stealing things and hiding them, so that limbo doesn't have to worry about them. . That way she can just think about daffodils and kittens ... The bastard!
I would go for a run but my eldest is at home with the lergy! <beats unsuspecting cushion in rage and frustration of the sheer effin unfairness and patronising bastardness of it all>
Wooly I have no tips I'm afraid :/
I do fantasise about tying ds with ropes and securing him in the car with those bungee hook things?! But alas I am informed that this is frowned upon as is drinking before 9am humph!!!
Frizz can I please add Thomas the tank engine to the bastard list if I hear the theme tune one more time today I'm going to spontaneously combust!!!
Thomas the tank engine added - under subsection should be smelted bastard
Unchartered - thought long and hard about your submission and have decided to add the entire school, that way we cover all manner of bastardness
I'm all out of rant, but I had an interesting moment today. I walked into the local convenience store, just as the DD's old HT walked out. We both exchanged 'hi's.
why thankee kindly frizz
i've been fantasising of a SN section room 101, but basically it's a huge mouli style grinder, that is operated by turning a huge handle
i think this would be most useful (been reading up on my sensory processing, also therapeutic [nods] )
anyone mind if i grind some of this thread into it?
Lougle - HT added regardless of absence of rant, added bonus not being removed as they'll never get the chance to redeem themselves. Subsection: permanent bastard
I wonder could I get paid for my listing capabilities?
Can I add GPs surgery I need to make 4 different appointments 1 for me, 1 for Ds 2 for Dd and their computers are down. And I've only just worked up the courage to make the one for me.
Dd's physio whom I have called 3 times in the last 2 weeks and still hasn't replied.
OT dept Dd is on a year long waiting list for what is actually an acute problem. Why can't they have a better system for (hopefully) short-term, straightforward problems.
My rant would sound pretty much the same as it has been since my ds started at a new school, but I am just tired from the worry, and have to fill in dla form, but we have moved house/LA & everyone involved is new to
me and ds. My happy boy has changed so much in the last few months.
His teacher seems to have no idea how to handle a tiny incident, he actually phoned me to ask if I would come and take ds home - after he knocked over a wet floor sign in the corridor(unsupervised due to lack of support, no idea if it was intentional or an accident), ds got upset with children telling on him, refused to apologise, or go for lunch. So could I come and get him?
Well no I couldn't! In all his time with his last school (5 yrs, 2 of them in nursery attached to school) never once did anything like this happen, because ds had support, proper, structured, caring support. It isn't fucking rocket science.... Sorry, didn't think I had the energy to rant, parents' evening tonight, bring it on!
Can I join in? It might be a bit pathetic, but it got my goat..........
IEP document given to me today - target 1 was to 'complete 2 tasks per day'.
Simple, specific, measureable and achievable .Lovely. We wont worry too much about whether its reasonable (no idea how many tasks are set a day to know if 2 is a big ask, or small potatoes) or timely (have not stated when they think DS should be able to achieve this). They even defined what kind of tasks and included strategies for making sure DS was in the right frame of mind to do the task in the first place. Excelent stuff!
Yes indeed...........and then it all falls down,... the measure of success bit did not include counting how many tasks has been completed in a day .........!!
So how are they going to show improvement or success in that task?
AMIBU to think its not rocket science?
hold on a minute
you know those caring carrots?
that PP woman has left one...i've got an aptitude for working with ASD at home!
well thank fuck for that, seeings how my DD has ASD
GP added - useless bastard subsection
OT added - see above subsection
Computers added- subsections pointless bastards
IEP - resource wasting bastard (specifically wasting paper)
Mini-taps CT added -subsection another useless bastard
Carrots - subsection hateful bastards
Rocket science - superior bastard
'like' button needed for frizzcat listings!!!!
Met previously mentioned hv and now she is a bastard with a face, totally useless asked me what I felt I needed and suggested to her that possibly a play therapist and salt would be nice and she agreed so is a useful bastard but still none the less a bastard for previous mentioned reasons!! And the fact if it wasn't u lovely mnters I would not of known to suggest such referrals :/
No ree - she's still useless as you fed her the info
Subsection request: Cowardly bastard
Can I join your angry mob please
Ds had a supply teacher yesterday. I got home from work at bedtime and he told me he had been shouted at lots but that he "didn't want to dwell on it" so we didn't discuss it. TA confirmed it today. And then, ds's friend's mum said ds's friend was furious last night that ds had been treated so badly yesterday. Have just sent angry'ish email to Senco asking for her to put arrangements in place for information sharing with supply teachers as this is not acceptable etc. The same friend of ds was also shouted at for not concentrating... he has just been diagnosed with epilepsy and has frequent absence seizures FFS
I would have joined in, but the power's been off all day. I ended up having to hug DS1 very hard when it over ran by half an hour. I was angry for him.
He was lovely and warm, mind. And I can't remember the last time he let me hug him like that. A proper snuggly, squeezy hug, as opposed to a bouncy mass of pointy bits and tongues.
ouryve aaah, that sounds lovely
But not really in the spirit of the thread
That's really bad polter I'd be bloody fuming, they deffo belong in the bastard category will leave subsection to op, hugs for u and ds and his very sweet sounding friend
Thanks Reecieroo his friend is a delight, they don't really play much together at school but have a 'bond' and they work together in class really well, friend is very accepting of ds and this keeps ds calm, ds has brilliant memory and stays on task so props up friend who zones out frequently and misses teacher instruction. Friend's mum is lovely and very fond of ds (who has been very violent and difficult in the past, less now) and she actually promotes their friendship as she wants her ds to be kind and understanding of others (most parents want their dc's kept away from ds )
Whoops! Now I've gone off on a tangent.
If you're still grinding, it's Northern Power Grid that needs chucking in for me.
Never mind DS1 being so upset that he let me hug him, I've only just got feeling back in my hands that isn't reynaud-esque pain.
The power being off is truly in the spirit of the thread. DS1 has decreed that power cuts Should Never Happen Again.
sorry ouryve I didn't mean to come across as insensitive, I got carried away with your description of a squeezy hug and didn't take in the rest of your post properly
The house is warming up, we have bellies full of pizza and he's back to his usual self, asking me endless questions about the Jethro Tull CDs I got for Mothers' day.
Okay the spreadsheet is up lets go
Northern power grid added - subsection powerless bastard
Polters supply teacher - subsection RADA reject bastard (teaching to pay the bills). This also deserves a nomination for the bastard of the week.
That is really good, I know it's not really the same but my dd1 has a boy with ds in her class and at parents evening they told me she's above average for reading etc but the thing that made me proud the most was to hear how kind and caring she is towards him and how she is so keen to learn sign language every day so she communicate with him it's very, very sweet and his parents are also happy as he normally only communicates with boys and she had made him be friends with her.
That's a sad thing that parents avoid ds, I find it hard with ds that its so hard to hold my head up when people can't 'see' his additional needs, he is at v start of dx for adhd/as, so lovely to hear of the special bonds your ds has with his friend and just as important u with his mum.
Anyway I'm making this thread all warm and fluffy........hv is still a bastard and also Thomas the bloody tank engine is a blue annoying noisy bastard!!!! (Just for good measure in keeping with the thread!)
Dunno who to be cross with. Had convo with senco of school ds2 is going to last night (older ds1 is there and had parents evening last night) - and she was in her office - so I swooped. Ok, so I caught unawares, but lets say I "remain unconvinced. This follows 'no' to SA from LEA two weeks ago-I've now finally had a copy of the form the school put in - while it isn't incorrect, they didn't bend over backwards to paint a picture of what ds2 is like - they didn't bother to fill in the whole form. thanks fudgers.
Ree - that's just reminded me of the film Stardust when Robert De Niro is pretending to a tough pirate in front of the crew - when really he likes dresses and all things fluffy
Ahem - sorry, now where's that bastard spreadsheet
And another entry on the useless bastard field (by far the most popular) - ohyea SENCO makes her debut.
Always best to catch them on the hop then they don't have time to conjure up lies
Ooh frizz I got another, disappearing friends and family. I would like to place these under Predictable Bastards.
Predictable bastards added - who needed them anyway
Lol frizz I am warm and fluffy really?! .......until bastards in all shapes and forms come an rain on my parade or as dh puts it pisses on my chips!!! Such a charmer my dh why did I marry him again?! :/ x
Can I add 4 wheel drivers with no glasses
2 weeks ago as some know I was hit from behind and sent over curb into lamp post. Front and back damage, severed nerve damage, Eldest DD neck and back damage torn muscle/tendon.
Got my brum brum back THIS weekend all fixed and shiny......
Goes to take middle DD for ID photos to be done for trip and low and behold another muppet crashes into be from behind at a roundabout! DS now got neck damage, middle dd ripped her tendons in legs/ankle due to sitting legs crossed.
Only delight in this second episode was opening the back door and letting a very scared, hurt and angry DS say JUST what he wanted to say for once
Can I add the other parents at our childminder? Normal CM in hospital, she and DD get along very well. Cover CM was in. She doesn't get DD at all, prefers DS (who is anyone's for a cuddle) and thinks that there's something very wrong with DD (told me she thinks she has ADHD). If I'd known she was in, DD would not have gone. Anyway. Went to pick up children, damn pushchair was up in the hall--instead of folded up as I have repeatedly asked them to keep it to avoid this very problem--, so DD saw me and climbed into it and had to be taken out again, screaming, so I could get the damn pushchair outside. Except that the smug twatty parents of fecking ten year olds, who can talk and shit, were in the way of me getting out, not moving, but tutting away merrily at DD, who was by now on the floor kicking and screaming. I basically had to shove my way through them, then come back to grab DS, then come back again to manhandle flailing screaming kicking DD into the pushchair. Out of which she promptly flings herself onto the floor. More crying. More tutting. From the audience now standing in the doorway having a good old gawp. And the disapproving childminder. Obviously, because we could not stop and cuddle it out, DD screamed the entire way home. Luckily there were some super helpful people on the but who knew exactly what I should do and weren't shy about telling me.
Christ, I hope 123 Magic works.
Mogs mummy - gormless gawking bastards
Oh coff that is awful
Well done ds though for saying what he thought
Get well soon all of you
polter she said to him "you are ok arent you mate" and he yelled "NO! I am not and you need to watch where you are bloody well going you silly son of a biscuit!" yes thank goodness he said biscuit lol
Biscuit is his new swear word as is jelly tots! the bit infront I guess he picked up somewhere along the line at school not here! lol but it was very aptly applied on this occasion!
coff love his response, absolutely perfect
To the utter arse of a washing machine delivery man who refused to deliver my washing machine - KARMA is gonna allow you to feel my wrath some day.
20 minute convo when I ordered the machine (and paid extra for next day delivery btw!) to explain there are no lifts in my block. Was reassured it was a 2 man delivery & that they have a special trolley to assist with stairs blah de blah. The man that knocked on my door to tell me they woudn't do it wwas a smirking git, and the second was too bone idle to get out the van.
I currently have a nasty eyelid infection which is affecting my vision and an overflow of bed linen to get through. Luckily perhaps I can't see the outstanding housework. I'm not impressed.
Can't even go to another company till I get my refund from appliancesdirect as it'll take five working days to process. It's been one of those weeks.
I am so angry at the child
bully who stole dd pencil case and passed it to other children rather than her which resulted in her losing her temper in class? Which she hates. Grrrrr girls can be so mean. Can I join you...
<shudders at thought of no washing machine>
Update on my angry rant about supply teacher:
Was called in after school (caused the usual dread that ds had done something terrible) to be told that HT (new one appointed after shock retirement of old one when school put in special measures) is taking my complaint very seriously and that children in class have been questioned about their experience on Tuesday, that his TA is given permission to assert herself regarding ds's needs (old HT very much of view that TAs should be seen and not heard) and that they are looking to change the way they communicate children's needs as well as their use of supply teachers. I am in shock they have responded so quickly and taken it seriously, this never used to happen with old HT who probably wouldn't have even let the teacher talk to me about it. And he has been given a Move-N-Sit cushion without fuss, another parent had to wait months for her ds's under old regime. Change is afoot at last.
Love your DS's response Coff33pot
Poltergoose - nice to see change afoot.
I have just written to ask how Autism outreach can be insinsitive of chld's fiddle toys ( helps concentration and snsory overload) while leading social skills group. He works in the SS FFS. Surely he should know better. I get the distinct impression that this round of socila skills that I bullied the school into doing ( to comply with statement) is going to be a complete waste of time.
Anyone else feeling drained today after all that anger yesterday?!!!
To my husband:
If I text you 'Chips for tea, please' do not just bring home chips, assuming that I must have had some other culinary delight whipped up to go with them, especially as you know that the Home Start lady is in Germany and I am at home with the 3 children on my own, having had to drop DD2 at a school disco at 5pm and pick her up at 6pm with DD1 and DD3 in tow'
P.S. I know I am unreasonable. I realise that I should have known that his literal interpretation of...well, everything, will lead to him following my exact instructions. I know that I should not assume that he can think 'beyond the box', however miniscule that box may be.
P.P.S I don't feel reasonable
@ Lougle oh sorry but
I thought I was the only one whose husband did that!
Tell me again ....we love them because??
lougle very sorry but at 'just chips', that is exactly what dp would do.
I wish I hadn't read that Lougle, I SO want chips for tea now!
ps my hub is the same, he takes things VERY literally
looks at son with ASD son, back at hub and scratches head thoughtfully
I've had to leave the room. Apparently it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that I have had time, within the 30 minutes that I 'only' had DD1 and DD3 while DD2 (the easiest of the three) was at her disco, to rustle up the 'main' element of dinner. This is because 'chips please' implies that I want chips, and at any rate, surely it would open debate as to whether I want 'fish' and chips or 'sausage' and chips.
The thought that he could have clarified whether we wanted fish or sausage is, apparently, a vast leap of communication pathways that is as improbable, as, well, oil and water mixing.
In fact, his interpretation was the only interpretation
My DH would be what chips? Where you you want me to get them from? How many should i get? Right, they do this size portion for £4 and this size for £5, which would you like? Cod or Haddock?
Just buy some bloody fish and chips for us all, man!
lougle - wish I could send you a little of DH obsessive fannying on.
ah right well then in answer to that you could try saying yes I did rustle up something I buttered a loaf bread as its chip buttys for tea......
He may just MAY think of buying additional items next time
Gotta as I too have a dh who would do that, and not see any other possibilities,
Can I randomly add 'fairground' rides. Son (ASD) spends hours imitating fairground rides cue lots of arm flailing and squealing. Does my f....g head in!
It seems there are a few more bastards lurking and some semi-bastards, i i think chips-gate may have to filed under the "brain engagement fail" category - however I'm open to payment and persuasion
I'm adding pavements to the bastards - as I skidded and fell on one this morning running after dd (she's getting reins) in front of all the grammar-PTA- NT- perfect bastard mums!
Wooly , have you looked at PDA ? The methods useful on PDA kids might help you manage her a bit easier.
Echolalia! Not the actual act of it (though granted it can drive you seriously nuts) but my son's school's daily reporting of it in his communication book. Just not entirely sure what point they are making? Do they actually recognise what it is? Should I enlighten them? Are they bored of his current repertoire or would they like me to introduce some new material to him because they fancy a change? There. I am drained beyond belief today, but mustered up a tiny bit of anger at the eleventh hour!
Can I add dp along with portage worker .i have been told that once statement is completed dd will most likely be offered a place at asd specific special school cue huge row with dp who wants her in mainstream despite not reading reports , viewing schools coming to meetings etc
I get told about DD's use of rote language a lot. But I teach her hilarious phrases and words, so I don't know what they're complaining about. Sometimes they're even relevant. Still can't get her to say Kwizatz Haderach properly though, and she really struggles with the sibilant fricatives in the dark language of Mordor.
My son's fave phrase at the moment, from Horrid Henry, "That is disgusting behaviour young lady!". He also has an unfortunate tendency to wander off to the HT's office ...
I'm sooo angry over impending tribunal I can't sleep. So searched "angry ASD" and got this thread.
Had a good laugh especially at "barstad curb","son of a biscuit" I will be using that one and now more more relaxed so will go to bed soon.
I just wish my little ds was talking more so we could have some good laughs together. They are funny hmm.
Can I moan about social worker who came to do initial assessment and then the next day rings me up to see if I use netmums and have I seen the local groups that they advertise?
Quickly email the most snooty and Tarquin-sounding group and ask if they would manage fairly extensive SN. Or do they think might dc require a trained 1-1 to access their service
Copy response to dozy SW
Best thing is he told me about the NAS bowling sessions when I'd told him during the assessment that I volunteer with the local NAS. He'd forgotten about that. Even bigger sigh
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