mmr booster. to jag or not too jag?

[dsrplus8]

i know this has probably been done a million times before but i got a reminder card in post for the twins mmr booster jag. im unsure what to do about dd4 as shes got developmental delays and i want to avoid making her worse, i always thought the jag was safe , but best mate is insistant that dd4 was" normal " before her mmr.to be honest i cant remember it was so long ago. so what do we do? jag or no jag?

[brainfreeze]

No one can tell you what to do on this one. You have to decide with your head and a bit of your heart. Do you have a good GP you can talk your concerns over with. I personally would stay clear of putting this one out on the SN board.

Only because there will many parents with children on the autistic spectrum who have asked themselves the same question - 'Did I do the right thing by getting my dc vaccinated with the mmr?"

You may find yourself getting an 'unbalanced' opinion. Maybe I will be wrong ...... if so, I apologise in advance

[monstermansmum]

Ds1 was dx with Angelman Syndrome around the time his MMR was due so I held off for the same reasons, however, he is now 8yrs old and he eventually had it about 18 months ago, with NO side effects-big sigh of relief!! x

[2shoes]

brainfreeze, why can't this be discussed on the sn board?

[brainfreeze]

Didn't mean to imply it shouldn't, just said personally I wouldn't have put it out here first as you may get a more negative/unbalanced view if people believe in the mmr/autsim connection.

I know I looked for a more 'logical' reason for my nephew's special needs iyswim and this included blaming other elements for causing it. Just thought it may have been biased against vaccination - do you think I am completely wrong?

[pagwatch]

I think the parents of children who believe the connection nearly always refer to their personal experience. And usually confirm the view that MMR is relevent in a very small number of ASD cases.

And I think their few voices are hardly a counter to the juggernaut of 'its safe' messages in the main media.

I never question my decision to give my son the MMR. But I have no doubt it damaged him. But we were very unlucky.

I am not sure why my saying that is unblanced or biased when supposedly people saying 'yeah its fine' is the oppsite

[vjg13]

My daughter has global developmental delay and had both MMRs at the recomended times.

[brainfreeze]

I'll watch this thread and if I am proved different, then I accept I was wrong and assumptive. I spoke from my heart, as I know you just have.

I don't think that there were a 'few' voices against - there has, for a long time,been mass negative press and opinion against the mmr, hence drplus8's original question.

[pagwatch]

Fair enough.
But I think she is looking for specific response re possible effects on SN children and that is relevent here.
And I just felt your comments were suggestingthat people will just cry - it is a bad idea. And i am not sure that is what happens anywhere.
As I said. I think my son was done by a sequence of which the MMR was the final straw. But I think most children tolerate it fine.

I tend to think immune problems and bowel problems are the biggest red flag for a possible problem
FWIW

[mumgoingcrazy]

I was in this same dilemma not so long ago (DD2 18mo), She has GDD and her eye contact and interaction are appauling so thought the MMR would be enough to tip her over the edge if you get what I mean.

I faffed around and made appointments then would cancel that morning saying she was ill etc I just couldn't seem to do it to her, then there was the measles epidemic all over the news and the reason we are where we are is because she had chicken pox at 6 weeks and the paed said she'd be far worse off if she got measles.

Anyway the point to my rambling is in the end she had the MMR and she has actually come on leaps and bounds since. I know this isn't because of the MMR but all I'm saying is it hasn't affected her in the slightest and I am also very reassured that she is now jabbed against these horrible diseases (measles mainly). It's a really tough choice when there are special circumstances but good luck xx

[tipsycat]

My DS (7) ASD has not had it, and will not be having it in the foreseeable future. He has problems with his immune system and reacts strangly to vaccinations. Have you considered the seperate jabs?

[Wills]

My dd1 is undergoing a diagnosis for aspergers. She had her mmr at 2.5 years. My dd2 shows absolutely no signs of any autism whatsoever and had her mmr at 3 years. My son is now 2.5 years and I have no intention whatsoever of giving him the mmr jab yet I couldn't scientifically prove why I won't do it (luckily my mother in law is fully in support of me which is good as my mother is not!). I don't think this can be done from a scientific perspective, you just have to go with a gut feeling. If you're worried then why not go with single jabs? Also my dd2 had measles at 13months and whilst she was definitely ill it was certainly a lot easier to deal with than when she suffered from chicken pox at 4 years .

[dsrplus8]

i dont know if the single jags are available where i am? even if they were id have to get them private and i dont know how id pay for them.ive had measles as a child myself , i always thought the menengitis is the worst.i had a very bad alergic reaction to the rubella jag in high school,on the basis of that i should not have let dd4(or any of my kids) have mmr, but i trusted the doctors advice. i dont know if the jag caused my dd to be "different" or of shes just the way she is(still getting tested).but i definatly dont want to do anything that would worsen her..asked the hv , she says its safe???? i dont know what to do!

[Wills]

I think the medical establishment will always tell you they're safe and possibly they are! Sorry I'm not being helpful but I don't think its possible for anyone to take the responsibility away from you although i'd love it if they would! . Like I said before I DO feel a mother's intuition is invaluable and that you should take a deep breath, try to feel calm (like that's easy at the best of times ) and then see what you're gut feeling says.

P.s Remember that when they're teenagers they'll blame you for doing wrong regardless of what you do now and that you will always feel guilty whatever

[TotalChaos]

I would seriously consider getting single jabs. I chickened out of DS's MMR booster - thought the protection offered by first jab would be enough - then he got measles just before Xmas. It seemed (touch wood) to be mild - but I am now slightly concerned about his hearing - (but could be just ear wax, he is very prone to it).

probably worth doing a search on jimjams posts on this topic - she is extremely knowledgable - and she usually recommends a book by an NHS GP called Richard Halvorsen called something like "the truth about jabs".

[VJay]

I gave my ds the single jabs, thay cost me a small fortune and I travelled miles for them, that was in 2003. Last year he was diagnosed with autism. Although the MMR isn't relevant to his case, I still have not given him the booster when it was offered last year.

[Phoenix4725]

ok can i put another side to it i can see from both sides as i havew 3 year old with sn but i also have a 5 year old daughter with iga and igg deffciences which means tht des[ite having all her injections failed to make antibodies so has no imunnity to any of the illness so her only protection is that others are immunised.

But end of day the choice is yours just wanted to give another side