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Here are some suggested organisations that offer expert advice on special needs.

Here are some suggested organisations that offer expert advice on special needs.

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Please help me word this deferal

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Judgeaway · 02/04/2016 10:49

So my ds3.10 is suppose to start school this September, after much thinking worrying and weighing up all the options we have decided we want to delay him so he starts reception September 2017 instead. So I need to write the email and this is were I want the help. I will try and give as much information as I can, sorry this is going to be long.
So ds is still in nappies and has no understanding of instructions, speech and language or social situations etc. He can not let you know what he wants, does not point etc. He is also non verbal. He is currently onto his asmpact so should get his final diagnosis soon but not got one as of yet. He currently sees ot, salt, peadiatrics, psychologist, ent, audiology and I'm sure I've probably missed someone. I don't know what else I would need to add and how to word it. Can give more information if needed. If anybody can help I would be really grateful Thankyou

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2boysnamedR · 02/04/2016 11:07

Have you ever had portage for him? Anyone from education side working with him? If so can they back you up?

I don't honestly know as applications for school closed here in Jan and the parents I knew who defered got the approval by the application submission date.

Also both of those kids was born after April so classed as summer born.

It wasn't a option for me as my son has made almost zero progress in three years so he is going to a asd school.

I think you will need to give contact details of professional who will back you up but I honestly don't know. Good luck. Hopefully you will be OK

SouthWestmom · 02/04/2016 11:09

I think you have to apply for the deferral at the time you apply for reception? Let me check.

SouthWestmom · 02/04/2016 11:13

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment data/file/389448/Summerrborn admissionssadvice Decc_2014.pdf

This is what you want, bear in mind some academies are their own admission authorities.

Judgeaway · 02/04/2016 11:19

Thankyou I spoke to lea and they said I can still defer but there is no law set on summer Norns yet so will still need to put in evidence to back up my deferal

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PolterGoose · 02/04/2016 11:57

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Judgeaway · 02/04/2016 12:35

He's at pre school. We've had the first assessment for 1:1 waiting for her to come back

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Judgeaway · 02/04/2016 16:00

Also sounds stupid but when We get a final diagnosis will we get something in writing?

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Judgeaway · 02/04/2016 19:23

Thankyou poltergoose we are in a small town and everything is so slow and nobody tells you what to expect I actually feel like I'm going through this alone

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2boysnamedR · 02/04/2016 19:49

You will get a letter with any diagnosis. Depending on your dr the reports can be a six week wait.

If it's asd you should be reffered for Early bird, I'd also recommend joining your local NAS branch.

If he was getting a EHCP you should have a letter from your LA informing you that they have commenced assesment. If you haven't had this he isn't being assessed for a EHCP

Mind you I have never had this letter either I do know it's happening as I spoken to DS caseworker.

Best not to assume that will automatically happen as often it doesn't

Hedgyhoggy · 02/04/2016 20:35

Children don't have to go to school full time until the term they are 5. I didn't send my ds until he was 5 but he school were very open to him going part time as part of his transition. I would perhaps contact school to say this is what you thinking of doing so you are simply known by them

Judgeaway · 02/04/2016 20:45

2boys what is early bird? And nas branch sorry if I sound thick.
hedgyhoggy Thankyou I am known to the school as my ds1 goes there and ds2 goes to the pre school so have already been getting some advice from them. How did that work out for your ds?

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2boysnamedR · 02/04/2016 20:50

Sorry your not thick at all I was was just rushing NAS is the national autistic society. My local group is very active and has meet ups, talks, clubs etc

Early bird is ASD parenting course. It lasts 12 weeks and tells you about sensory issues, meltdowns, theroy of mind etc and is a really good starting point to learn about things from a person with asd perspective.

Hedgyhoggy · 02/04/2016 21:08

He's in a small rural school with full 1:1 support, he's been retained 2 years and every review we discuss whether his needs would best be met in special school. He is nearly 7 and assessed at 3 yr old level but 4 for social. Ability sounds the about the same as your ds when he was coming upto 4. He loves school is very happy and I'm planning he stays in mainstream for at least another 2 years. Our Special school is good but his class were predominantly autistic which is why we decided it wasn't the place for him yet (he wants friends and he has friends in ms). Lots of people can be negative about deferring and retaining but I think you can only do what you think is right and don't get too bogged down by looking too far to the future

Judgeaway · 02/04/2016 21:16

Thankyou 2boys I was woundering of there was something around to help us understand more. Will defiantly look into our local nas. The earl bird course sounds really good shame dh won't be able to attend. I sometimes feel like oldest ds gets left out sometimes.
Thankyou hedgyhoggy what is retaining? I'm sounding really stupid now but oldest ds sailed through everything so it's the first time I am coming across all this. I'm very good for fighting for what we need. A couple of people have asked if I've thought about special school but I would defiantly like him to try main stream first

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Hedgyhoggy · 02/04/2016 21:24

Retaining is when you hold them back a school year (so your ds could start with the Sept '17 reception if school is agreeable). Disadvantages and advantages for this. Have you pursued assessment for a ehcp.

Judgeaway · 03/04/2016 08:57

Ah now that's what I've been calling deferring as that is what I am hoping to do, i didn't realise you had to get schools permission?.
The echp confuses me not 100% sure what it is or how you go about it. Ds ha had a consultation visit from educational psychology and early years service early years advisory and portage team

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Fairylea · 03/04/2016 15:13

Look at the ipsea website for ehcp information. My ds is 3.10 and has an ehcp. We applied to special school but were turned down. We have now decided to defer him to start school in September 2017. In our area (Norfolk) they do not yet accept deferrals easily so I am in the same process as you - writing to them to make my case etc. Normally if you delay them a year they start in year 1 and not reception - this is what they will expect you to do and you will have to fight against this. If you get an ehcp you will have more ammunition to say why they should start in reception etc. You can apply for the ehcp yourself - we did (through your local council). A diagnosis of asd won't make any difference with regard to school years etc. The ehcp is based on need and not diagnosis and the level of need is what they will be looking for.

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