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Main board discussion about specifying 1:1, or not by teachers.

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Goodness me.

Just thought it might be helpful and insightful for some on here to read, particularly if you are hoping that your fight for a properly specified statement will make the difference for your child.

Ineedmorepatience Sun 22-Sep-13 16:58:54

I can't get involved because I don't know enough about statementing but blimey some scary views from teachers.... totally not surprising in my experience but sacry sad

PolterGoose Sun 22-Sep-13 17:59:46

I don't know much about statements either, but the arrogance of the teachers who think they know best doesn't surprise me at all as I certainly and sadly have experience of that.

Star you're on top form wine and cake

Ineedmorepatience Sun 22-Sep-13 18:02:28

yeah keep feeding star with wine and cake to keep her energy levels up grin wink

Ineedmorepatience Sun 22-Sep-13 18:03:52

An insanity and zzzzz of course!

Earloflemongrab Sun 22-Sep-13 18:07:46

This is why parents should apply for a statement themselves and not leave it to school .

I rewrote my ds's crap statement after seeing advice on this board <name changer> and sent it back to them. It's not perfect but it's so much better than the LEA's draft (which declined to mention his specific learning difficulties and named the wrong school.)

Ineedmorepatience Sun 22-Sep-13 18:11:21

I had to get involved in the end because of an awful comment about parents like starlight!!

My God these people are unreal and should be ashamed angry sad

inappropriatelyemployed Sun 22-Sep-13 18:25:02

The system is rotten to the core but there is a point to be made about the uselessness of some TA provision - just not the one they are trying to make.

I know IE.

But it's hard to have the debate about what TA support should look like when the argument is still at such a basic level of egos.

WetAugust Sun 22-Sep-13 18:35:46

Read it with increasing shock

Arrogant arseholes.

Shame this person wasted the 1st from Oxford on teaching grin

TOWIELA Sun 22-Sep-13 18:45:50

I'm not brave enough to get involved on the other thread - I'm still nursing my Tribunal battle scars. But yes it is the audacity of the egos that astound me! My poor child had 11 assessments in as many months - including one done by one of this country's leading experts on dyslexia. Yet if he had ended up in ms and his class teacher was one of those on the other thread, s/he would probably ignore every single provision I (and my experts) fought for and 'won'. All assessments (inc those done by LA professionals - not the illegal pen-pushers) said he needs the support I 'won'. But then a ms teacher, with his/her massive ego would brush it all side. Would that teacher be the one that would pick up the pieces when it all goes disastrously wrong? Of course not!

Teachers like them were one of the reasons I fought so hard for my child to get into a specialist school. I didn't want them anywhere near my child. angry

KeepOnKeepingOn1 Sun 22-Sep-13 18:56:47

Star (and the others) - you are doing a sterling job getting teachers to admit what things are like on a day to basis regardless, of Every Child Matters, IEP, or even a statement.

M/s with a 1:1 is the right option when it is the LA choice and wrong when it is the parent choice.

inappropriatelyemployed Sun 22-Sep-13 19:04:31

We all know this is what goes on - every one of us has probably had a run in with a teacher who thinks they know best, that it doesn't look like autism to me, or who says there are children in need of more help. It's endemic.

Teachers always seem to think that they are the smartest people in the room which is really, profoundly sad given the level of ability of many I have met.

But the system stinks from top to bottom. This is why we should try and argue for change and have our voice heard somewhere other than mumsnet.

Not that you are not doing a sterling job tackling this when you see it - obv.

Ineedmorepatience Sun 22-Sep-13 19:07:06

I agree IE and everyone else, I am sick to the back teeth of teachers who think they know my child better than I do.

I dont get this attitude anywhere else I go with Dd3, only school confused

Bluebirdonmyshoulder Sun 22-Sep-13 19:36:24

Bloody hell, I've just fallen head over heels in love with starlight grin

She's like Ripley in 'Aliens', Louise in 'Thelma and Louise' and the best lawyer in the world all rolled into one. [girl crush emoticon]

More wine to your elbow starlight.

zzzzz Sun 22-Sep-13 20:20:10

I've never had anyone think there are children who need more support than ds sad and a little envy , I have had lots who think he's doing his best "bless" angry and a few who think he needs a firmer hand <whistles nonchalantly at the effort involved in NOT showing how draconian I am>

Yes star at her best. grin

WetAugust Sun 22-Sep-13 20:20:54

Teachers always seem to think that they are the smartest people in the room which is really, profoundly sad given the level of ability of many I have met

Lovin' it grin

You all know my (long held) views on teachers grin

2boysnamedR Sun 22-Sep-13 20:23:45

I can't read it. Things like make me want to vomit. I wonder how these people would feel if they have sn child? It's all so fu@king easy for everyone else. If they had the child they could fix it all. Bollocks

SilverApples Sun 22-Sep-13 20:30:44

If they had a child with additional needs themselves, they wouldn't have the smug and complacent arrogance that makes them think they have all the answers and are free to customise hard-won provisions.
If they had a lot more experience of listening rather than proclaiming, they'd be better teachers.
Some of us are both parents and teachers.
WetAugust, you said that I was the exception to your flamethrower approach to all members of the educational establishment. grin
<passes wine bucket with a rather good merlot>

WetAugust Sun 22-Sep-13 20:56:02

Ah - hi SilverApples. I see you've given up being a Greek lady grin

Yes - you are the exception to my (very strict) rule grin

I didn't know a certain fab teacher that did post on there a few times had a child with ASD herself. It explains A LOT!

Ah Silver For crying out loud. I only ever know who you are when Wet pops up and 'knows' you.

inappropriatelyemployed Sun 22-Sep-13 21:06:48

Ineedmore- you are dead right about not getting this anywhere else you go but school.

I'm always showing DS how much more accepting the world is of him out of school. The damage done by a useless SEN industry which forces kids to struggle against attitudes like this for years is beyond contempt.

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