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What do you think caused it? ASD/ Autism

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2006hildy Fri 12-Apr-13 23:03:15

Never mind all the claptrap written, papers published, media hysteria, ect. What do you personally think caused it? ASD/ Autism

I don't want to bash all the valuable work done out there already. But us MNetters have sorted out a lot already maybe we could help sort this question.

Mine is a dodgy combination of genes between me and DH. Even before we got the dx this was my honest gut instinct that DS1 got the best genes out of the two of us and ds2 got the worst. This sounds bad but I love him dearly.

Since then all kinds of things have gone through my head. I don't want to say too much as I don't want to influence your answers.

CwtchesAndCuddles Sat 13-Apr-13 16:12:34

Genetic
DH family have iffy genes! Dh would prob get a diagnosis is he wanted one (full on computer geke with lots of traits), and all of the children of dh cousins have a range of adhd / dyslexia / dyspraxia.

Ds is the most severe with ASD and severe learning difficulties but I'm sure that genetics played a huge part.

I'm was 40 having ds and do wonder if that may have also been a factor, along with HG in pregnancy.

autumnsmum Sat 13-Apr-13 17:37:15

Definitely genetic for my two on the spectrum .My dad is definitely aspergers my mother is very self centred .my dp definitely has ADHD

mrsbaffled Sat 13-Apr-13 20:28:39

Genetic. Without a doubt.

NoHaudinMaWheest Sat 13-Apr-13 22:18:34

Genetic here too. DH has traits at the least and probably Aspergers. I strongly suspect other members of Dh's family are on the spectrum too. Ds had brachycardia in labour and a ventouse delivery so I wonder if that triggered problems. Actually Dh was a forceps delivery after a difficult labour.
I know what you mean about inheriting the worst genes. Ds has AS (Dh's side), OCD (traits on both sides), dyslexia/dyscalculia (my side), hayfever/eczema (my side) and hypermobility which he seems to have developed off his own bat.

smokinaces Sat 13-Apr-13 22:26:19

I think genetic. Ds1 is very like me and my mum and many times I've been asked if I have aspergers. Is there an adult diagnosis BTW? Exdh nephew has aspergers too

Ds1 has aspergers, probably from me. Ds2 has hms, definitely from me.

PoshCat Sat 13-Apr-13 22:32:02

No family history here. I blame worrying obsessively about Downs Syndrome after a soft marker was found at my 20 week scan.
I also blame getting drunk over New Year after a "phantom period" then finding out I was pregnant a few days later.
I think my maternal age (old) plus a surprise, rapid and solo labour and birth probably didn't help. sad sad

insanityscratching Sat 13-Apr-13 22:58:31

Ds's autism came like a bolt from the blue as there is no autism in either of our families. At the time we felt we were "just unlucky" Then we had dd who also has autism so I imagine we have dodgy genes and mine and dh's siblings and cousins managed to avoid them.

Maryz Sat 13-Apr-13 23:04:08

Genetics here too for my family, I think. Though possibly some pregnancy related/adoption/attachment issues for ds1.

And I have a feeling that it is a dominant gene, and that is the reason for the huge increase in ASD in the last 30 years or so. Just a gut feeling - in the olden days, I suspect people on the spectrum would have been less likely to marry and have children, so therefore by the law of probability their genes wouldn't have continued.

Poshcat, I genuinely don't think you (or any of us) can blame ourselves. I really don't. Many people worry throughout pregnancy, many people get drunk, or eat badly or are stressed.

In DS2's case, I think it was hereditary. My dad has (undiagnosed and unmentioned but everyone knows) Asperger's and I score quite high on the criteria too.

I also think that as our society becomes more specialised, people with autistic traits are more likely to be able to find a role or niche that has reasonably high status / financial reward (computer programming would be one example). This makes them more attractive as reproductive partners.

LegoAcupuncture Sat 13-Apr-13 23:11:07

I used to think it was my fault for acing a c section which resulted in instant cord clamping and cord falling off at two days old.

Logically, I'd say genetic from DH side.

lisaloeb Sat 13-Apr-13 23:23:40

It may be genetic, my dad and sister have traits of ASD, with the lack of empathy her biological father showed to her he has possibly ASD.

I had a mismanaged birth which may not have helped things. She was oxygen deprived for around half an hour when she was born.

Cathycat Sat 13-Apr-13 23:32:52

I think a combination of genetic and environmental - does anyone else think this? I had ds2 quite shortly after ds1 (I notice that lots are second children) so is it to do with womb / body recovery? I had clexane in pregnancy, an unidentifiable stressful irritating rash in the latter quarter of pregnancy, a bad birth. My father is very aspergerish, and very like ds2, rambling on about his interest with little regard to his yawning listener, obsessions about certain areas and loads of other things! I am slightly obsessive and dh can be uncommunicative but think you know what he thinks lol! So we have aspects! But my dad is very obviously asd ish to me.

smokinaces Sat 13-Apr-13 23:33:16

See ds1 has aspergers. Yes he was a scheduled csection, but his cord took a month to come off. I also didn't drink/smoke/take painkillers.

Ds2 was a crash section. Oxygen starved at points. I didn't know I was pregnant for three months so i drank, smoked, popped aspirin etc. I did everything upside down with him as ds1 was only 19m when he was born. And he's got no ASD traits at all that we can see.

Some gentics. Some pot luck I guess.

Smooshy Sat 13-Apr-13 23:34:39

I think it's genetic. DH's son has Aspergers, as does his nephew. Another has Dyspraxia. A lot of DH's male relatives were seen as eccentric and unsociable. I am currently trying to make DS5's teachers see that there is something else there, querying Aspergers/Dyspraxia.

DS2 has Austism and I do wonder if his difficult birth (his heart stopped and i had to have an emergency section) had a bearing on why he has it more severely than anyone else in the family. I did go through a phase of blaming myself - I had a stressful pregnancy (house move falling through, then moving 2 days before he was born and my brother committing suicide) and probably drank more than a couple of drinks at times. Even down to blaming it on the name I gave him at one point!

Jux Sun 14-Apr-13 00:00:37

Genetic. Autism has existed since long before any of the mooted environmental factors existed.

devilinside Sun 14-Apr-13 00:11:46

I am undergoing assessment for aspergers. Both my parents and sister are obviously aspie. DS diagnosed a year ago, DD and DP borderline. I think the reason rates are increasing is because aspies seek out one another (previously many would have remained unmarried) but now there is more opportunity to meet fellow geeks. I met DP online, I suspect that's common for people like us

DeafLeopard Sun 14-Apr-13 01:12:00

Really interesting concept about people with ASD historically unlikely to have children - whereas now more likely to.

So the early geeks brought us technology, made themselves into sought after partners due to wealth / social status; then someone invents internet dating so geeks can seek out each other and cut out the crap of unnecessary socialisation grin Darwinism in action.

jogalong Sun 14-Apr-13 11:08:33

No genetics here either. Mind you dh family could sometimes be described as "odd".
Had an elective section which i sometimes now wonder if contributed to sensory issues.
Have three children. Had gestational diabetes during all three pregnancies. Was on insulin on my first and third pregnancy but not on my second. I attended a different hospital for my second and they hadn't updated their guidelines and told me i didn't need insulin even though my levels were high. I had to control by diet alone. Im starting to wonder now three and a half years later if this affected ds. I prob will never know.

Academically I believe a combination of genetic and environmental factors, although no known genetic heritage (but both me and DH have unknown parts of our families). I think there must be some genetic predisposition lurking, added to which we had IUGR (probable placental problems), prematurity, and a very old mother.

Strongecoffeeismydrug Sun 14-Apr-13 13:09:34

DS is the only one with asd on either side of the family.
Can't even think of any relatives who even have traits so i really can't say I think it's genetic.
I just think its one of those things that I will never be able to answer (a bit like which came first the chicken or the egg) smile

TaggieCampbellBlack Sun 14-Apr-13 13:18:39

Genetics.

My side of the family is definitely predisposed towards ASD.

Although I've also spent the last 15 years blaming everything i did, from hyperemesis to weaning to sleeping to school.........

MissDuke Sun 14-Apr-13 13:53:51

I think genetics plays a huge part, but I don't think that explains the large increase, so I think there are environmental factors also.

marchduck Sun 14-Apr-13 14:57:25

I really don't know in our case; DD is the only one in both sides of the family to have ASD. DH and I have both done that online AQ thing and scored really low and our older DS doesn't seem to have any traits at all.
I worry that it was maybe triggered by something that I did. I was hospitalised with hyperemesis during both pregnancies, but started taking the anti-sickness medication earlier with DD. Both were induced at 10 days over, and her birth was more difficult. There may also be a predisposition to auto-immune difficulties, coming from DH's side.

BeeMom Sun 14-Apr-13 16:24:37

For my DCs, we know the cause - autism/autistic traits are very common in mitochondrial disease. I have the same disease as well, and when I look at myself critically, I can see traits in me as well...

I think that the rise in diagnosis is only partially related to an increase in incidence, but largely tied to the fact that those with lower "severity" or higher "function" are being formally recognized. When I was a child, someone diagnosed as autistic was "classically" autistic - little to no functional speech, severe repetitive behaviours, no chance at independence... however, since the clear need for and benefit from early intervention has been formally acknowledged, more children are being diagnosed - admittedly both a blessing and a curse.

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