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NF1 / Neurofibromatosis / Cafe au Lait Spots - help :(

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Booville3 Mon 17-Mar-14 21:10:26

Hello I know this was over a year ago now but wondering how it all panned out? Been to the hospital today with my ds who is being watched for further signs of nf only 6mo at present, wish I could organise some genetic testing I would definitely pay for this as I'm desperate to know one way or another instead of constantly checking him for further marks!!!

butterfingerz Fri 22-Feb-13 19:26:41

Hi theonlyone... I'm going through a similar thing with my ds who is 21 months. We took him to A+E last year and was admitted to the ward for a wheezing episode which he suffers from occasionally. One of the consultants noticed a few cal marks and asked how many he has in total, if theres any inherited conditions in our family. He only has maybe 4 quite small cals with some freckling around the groin at the moment. We shrugged the consultant off as we didn't really know what she was getting at... at the time.

I forgot about it, but I don't know, its come back into my thoughts. When I look at the early indicators for NF1, yes he has a few marks but he also has a big head (was born on the 99th percentile for that) and isn't really talking at all but makes lots of noise. I myself don't have any symptoms but I have one caf mark on my back. I remember my mum mentioning something relating to that and the condition many years ago but don't know anyone in my family having it though maybe she meant that a few of her relatives had the skin symptoms.

Its quite scary, I've googled also unfortunately, its horrible to think of what will happen if my ds is affected severely by nf1. Have you been to the GP yet for yourself or your dc? I've read its difficult to get a diagnosis before the age of 5yrs so I'm not sure whether to wait until we see my ds's consultant in the summer (for something unrelated - allergy).

theonlyoneiknow Sun 03-Feb-13 15:23:52

Just bumping. Anybody else have experience of nf1? Thanks

theonlyoneiknow Sat 02-Feb-13 22:09:45

Hi BeeMom, have messaged you.

BeeMom Fri 01-Feb-13 23:53:57

If you want to chat privately, pop me a message... to avoid a long story, I have a condition that, because I have a mild presentation, went unnoticed too. My DS has it, and we did not even know of it until Bee was born and started having problems. The back-tracking started, and I soon learned that I gave it to her. I have dealt with a ton of irrational guilt as a result, as her presentation is severe, and we shudder for her future...

theonlyoneiknow Fri 01-Feb-13 23:29:16

Thank you. I guess denial is part of the process with coming to terms with things? I know nobody has an official diagnosis but its hard to be optimistic when I am ticking off the diagnostic criteria looking at my signs!

The unpredictability of the disorder is really worrying me. I think given I am 40 and its only been picked up now can hopefully mean they will be willing to do a blood test (although have read it can give 5% false negative results). I am so scared for the children more than myself and am feeling so crap I have probably passed this onto them and all I can do is pray that they will follow the same course I did and get to 40 with only a few birthmarks, some freckles and a couple of under the skin bumps. Sadly everything I have read said there is no rhyme or reason to NF1 within family members and how it affects can vary wildly :-(

BeeMom Fri 01-Feb-13 23:26:11

Bee has CAL and axial freckling... so does her daddy. We actually had NF1 as a working dx for over a year, then her neuro said while it is a strong indicator for investigation, it certainly doesn't always add up to a diagnosis.

Just remember... Dr. Google doesn't pay malpractice insurance grin

auntevil Fri 01-Feb-13 23:09:07

Sorry I don't know much about NF1, but I do know that genetic testing on the NHS needn't cost an arm and a leg.
Our GP referred DS1 to the genetics dept. This was only after privately asking the genetics dept that our PCT uses how much it would be privately.
Genetics gave a cost in the region of £300, but said that based on the info in the 5 line e-mail that I sent, the GP should refer and it would cost the GP £0 to do so!
FF 5 months and we have a dx - and DH and I are being sent for further tests.
I over googled too, but I was in the right ball park of dx. Like the others have said, ours is on the less severe of the continuum. If it had of been the severe end, I don't think I would have got as old as I am without having worked it out before smile

theonlyoneiknow Fri 01-Feb-13 16:12:10

No problem Helen, thanks very much for moving it

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 01-Feb-13 16:07:34

Oh, I am a prize twit. blush

I can know see that you have mailed in to ask us to move the thread, theonlyoneiknow.

Will do now - and then run away, covered in shame.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 01-Feb-13 16:02:44

Hello there, theonlyoneiknow

We're sorry this has upset you all so much (and no wonder).

If you like, we could move your thread to our Special Needs section? We're sure there will be some posters there who will be able to help you and answer your Qs.

Do let us know if you'd like that.

theonlyoneiknow Fri 01-Feb-13 13:45:04

I switch between wishing the doctor hadnt spotted her birthmarks and Being glad he did as i know early monitoring can be key.

Would they not do the blood test at your hospital? I dont think they routinely do it in the uk as its costly to the nhs. I am now checking myself for hidden bumps under the skin!

Thank you for your kind words x

shitmagnet Fri 01-Feb-13 09:33:27

Yes, I sent bloods to the U.S. privately from Oz - cost around $1300AUD but I had to know.

Even if your dc (and yourself) are +ve, severe cases are the minority from what I remember, and it is a BENIGN disease with many options for management. There is also good reason to hope that it will be able to be cured in your dc's lifetime (as many genetic diseases), with the leaps and bounds medicine is undergoing (I am studying health science at uni). Stay strong, I know it's hard x

theonlyoneiknow Fri 01-Feb-13 05:17:32

Thank you shitmagnet. I am looking at worse case scenario I know but its hard not to given we all seem to fit their diagnostic criteria. I feel like i am in a bubble though and its not really happening. I will wake up in the night and for a split second all is ok then I remember and my chest goes all tight.

I sound very melodramatic!

Did you just send your blood test off yourself privately? From what I have heard they dont do blood tests routinely in the UK as its pretty expensive. I read about spred-1 and got my hopes up then realised my lipomas are probably neurofibromas which means nf1

Glad your tests were negative that must have been à huge relief! I had never even heard of this disorder till now. Have asked my parents If they have any signs. For my sanity I need to.stay away from google. !!

shitmagnet Fri 01-Feb-13 01:43:41

You poor woman, I have been through what you are going through now. My dd's cafe-au-laits were also picked up by a paed who she was seeing for something unrelated. I bought a mini woods lamp and found 12 on her, some big but most very light (but still there). ds also has 6. I sent her bloods off for testing in the U.S., and she came back negative. Also, neither dc has freckling. She was seen a Children's (Sydney) and an ophthalmologist and they concluded they don't think she has NF1. dh has a large cafe-au-lait on his shoulder, and I have one or two small ones (most people do!).

Apart from run-of-the-mill congenital cafe-au-laits, there is another skin-only condition called SPRED, which includes CALs and freckling. It sounds as though you may have this. One consultant once told me that many genetic diseases are only partially expressed, and Dr Google is too black and white to consider this. Genetic counselling/testing should settle it and allow you to move on from emotional limbo. I hope it all comes to nothing :-)

theonlyoneiknow Thu 31-Jan-13 21:31:37

Thank you smile. DP has just fallen out with me for worrying about things before they happen. Everything I have read says that even If the parent has it mildly the child can have à severe case or vice versa? Did you get tested? Right up until last week I just thought they had inherited my birthmarks!

smile4me Thu 31-Jan-13 21:26:22

Sorry I don't have any experience directly, but I know a little! There is a huge variation in severity of NF, so IF that's what you've got, then you obviously don't have it too severely, or it would have been diagnosed earlier, and the same should be true for your DCs IF they've got it too smile But there's a good chance it's not so don't panic with those horrible pics on google until you've seen the geneticist. I have several several cafe au lait marks and underarm freckling too, but no NF (that I know about) so hopefully it's just random.

theonlyoneiknow Thu 31-Jan-13 20:46:33

Hi

I am really freaking out and need a hand hold please.

DD is 6 mo and was at the doctor for something totally unrelated and he commented on her cafe au lait birthmarks and counted five. He asked me If I had any and I said yes, quite a few! He them referred her to the genetisct and mentioned NF1 which I had never heard of.

Cue google when I got home and I am now in a real state. Not only do i have two of the criteria for a diagnosis (6 cafe au lait spots bigger than 15mm and underarm and groin freckling) but i also have à couple of fatty lumps under the skin which GP had said were lipomas but could be wrong and they could be neurofibromas.

How can i be 40 and never diagnosed! I also counted 4 cafe au lait spots and saw underarm freckling on 3 year old DS.

I am in a mess, not only do i have à genetic disorder I didnt know i had but I have very probably unwittingly passed it on to my two beautiful babies. I have spent too much time on google and am horrified at how severe this disorder can be. I feel like i am living in the middle of a very bad dream. I cannot sleep for worrying what is going to happen. Its a,very unpredictable
isorder and can vary wildly in symptoms between family members.

I know none of us have been officially diagnosed yet but enough criteria is there. It is really getting me down and I cant stop thinking about it.

Does anyone have any experience of NF1 or how i can get my head around such life changing news?

Thanks xx

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