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Help!!!!! what are p stages on national curriculum?????

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mixedemotions123 · 28/02/2006 17:33

We have recently applied for a statement for ds who is 7 in april.The school have said that his rate of progress is between P7 and Level 1C. I Haven't got a clue what these levels are, and what you would expect a child his age on school action plus should be achieving?? We applied for a statement 2 years ago, and the LEA refused to assess him.

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coppertop · 28/02/2006 17:38

The P levels are the 'stepping-stones' a child is on while working towards a level 1C. My ds1 (5.5yrs and autistic) is in Yr1 and has recently moved to a Level 1C for the writing element of the NC.

I think a child is expected to reach a level 2C by the end of Yr2 but I'm not 100% sure. I think it goes: 1C 1B 1A 2C and so on.

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coppertop · 28/02/2006 17:39

Hopefully the mumsnet teachers will be able to explain it more clearly than I have! :)

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mixedemotions123 · 28/02/2006 17:49

Thanks coppertop, I have resent the question on the education section already. What you say seems to make sense. I don't know why they have to make it so complicated. Not being nosey, but does your ds have a statement?

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coppertop · 28/02/2006 17:53

No, ds1 is still on School Action Plus. He may possibly need a statement as he gets older but for now he is getting the help he needs. Writing is his particular weakness as his fine-motor skills were/are delayed due to sensory problems. Fortunately his IEP targets have been good ones and he is now starting to catch up.

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mixedemotions123 · 28/02/2006 18:45

bless him.Smile. It sounds as though he is in a good school. We chose our sons ms school because it was reported to be one of the best schools in Hampshire. It probably is if your child is a high achiever, but sadly this isn't the case for our little one. We have his psychiatrist saying that he could be better in sn school, the school senco and ep have both said he falls in between the two. But without a statement he would not fit the criteria anyway.

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robinpud · 28/02/2006 19:01

Is a mixed placement an option mixed emotions- my neighbour's son goes to a specialist school for autims and does 1 afternoon a week in mainstream primary. I have posted on your other thread btw

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mixedemotions123 · 28/02/2006 19:13

tbh robinpud it is something that has never been mentioned to us,so I didn't know that that could be an option. We have a meeting with the school in March with the Senco from Juniors (hopefully)being there to see if they feel he could cope in September when he moves up. I have my doubts really if i am honest which is why we have reapplied for the statement. Not holding my breath on that.

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maddiemostmerry · 28/02/2006 21:20

Mixedemotions, Are that any units attached to mainstream where you live as they can provide a good in between mix of special/mainstream.

I would reapply for statement and appeal if turned down. The average for the end of year 2 is level 2b. Is your son happy at school?

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mixedemotions123 · 01/03/2006 13:26

I do not know of any units attatched to the school, nobody has ever mentioned anything like that to us. We are having a meeting with senco and senco from Juniors later this month, I will certainly ask about it. My son always appears to be happy in the mornings about school, (not when he comes home), but school have said that he is always anxious, and it was picked up by clinical psychologist during classroom obs, that he doesn't ask for help when he doesn't understand. We seem to get so many mixed messages. The report that school have submitted for the statement is pretty much the same as the one 2 years ago, especially regarding the long term objectives to meet his needs. They have once again stated that " Specific needs and a higher level of support than the school can currently provide have been identified" (their words). If we do get refused as asessment this time, then we will appeal, we owe that to our son, but I will also be at a total loss as to what else we can do to get the help that he needs and deserves.

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cat64 · 17/04/2006 22:28

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Blandmum · 18/04/2006 20:09

The P levels are also very detailed and monitor all progress, social, lingistic etc. They give even=ryone a far better idea od a child's progress than the old W. They can also be used to feed directly into the child's IEP to give useful SMART targets.

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