(43 Posts)
mad4mybaby Thu 19-Jun-08 18:44:03

Have another thread on the go about ds getting up 5-5.30. He is asleep by 7.30pm and will sleep through and now getting up this early (dont think anything to do with the light as has been happening since jan/feb) he has a nap around 12.30 for 1 1/2 - 2 hours, sometimes even 3! Just wondering what your dc's have. Do they still nap? Going to bed later does not work (plus i dont agree with him going any late anyway!) i dont want to drop his nap as he sleeps soundly and obviously needs it. If i try to wake him up earlier from his nap he is extremly grouchy and will cry and whinge for about half an hour

Rosa Thu 19-Jun-08 18:45:19

DD 2.4 Bed 8pm up 6.30 / 7 ish. Nap about 2 hrs max. No nap nightmare child .

Seona1973 Thu 19-Jun-08 19:57:05

ds is 20 months - he has a nap from around 12.30pm and sleeps for up to 2/2 1/2 hours (I wake him by 3pm if he has not woken already though). He goes to bed for 7.30pm and wakes somewhere between 6 and 6.30am although I dont go and get him at once so it can be 6.45am by the time I drag myself out of bed.

UnderRated Thu 19-Jun-08 20:01:07

DS is 2.9

I would say, he sleeps for 12 - 14 hours. 12 at night and often 1 -2 during the day.

BroccoliSpears Thu 19-Jun-08 20:08:06

2.1 yr old dd - usually about 13 hrs sleep in 24.

ScoobyDoo Thu 19-Jun-08 20:12:32

DD is 2.5 she has about 12hrs a night & a 1-2 hr nap in the day (not every day) no nap today which ment very unpleasant dd!

EachPeachPearMum Thu 19-Jun-08 20:12:56

Dd (2.4) 12 hours at night, 1.5 after lunch. She has always needed a lot of sleep though...

woodward Thu 19-Jun-08 20:14:47

2.9.Sleeps 11 hours.from 7pm till 6ish am. dropped his nap bout 6 mnths ago

Jas Thu 19-Jun-08 20:14:54

Ds is 2.4.

Bed at 7, asleep by7.30, up any time between 5.30 and 7. No nap for the last 6 months....any daytime sleep at all meant him being awake until gone 10pm.

I've messed it up this week by attempting to put him in a bed, so as a consequence he is still up now.

crokky Thu 19-Jun-08 20:17:11

DS needs virtually no sleep (2.2 yo). Sleeps 1 hour in day (not always), 8 or 9 hours at night if lucky! So maybe 9 or 10 hours sleep in 24. He has always been a very poor sleeper, but I don't think it is a reflection of what parents have/have not done as my DD sleeps a lot. Both looked after in the same way!

I am tired!!!!!!!!!!!!!

coppertop Thu 19-Jun-08 20:19:33

Dd is 2.3yrs. She doesn't seem to need much sleep.

If she has no nap in the daytime she will sleep from about 9pm until 7am.

If she has even a 1hr nap in the daytime she is then awake until at least midnight and then up at 8am.

So 8 - 10hrs for dd.

<bleary-eyed emoticon>

ceebee74 Thu 19-Jun-08 20:20:13

Hi Mad4 - I think our DS's are a very similar age iirc - mine is 23 months.

He goes to bed at 7.30ish, sleeps until about 6.30am. He has a nap of 90 minutes (between 1pm and 2.30pm) - I rarely let him sleep past 2.30 for his nap even though he probably would as I always have to wake him up but fortunately he doesn't mind being woken up (usually bribery of watching Thomas between 2.30 and 3 works blush)

coppertop Thu 19-Jun-08 20:20:32

I see Crokky has a clone of my dd.

Flamesparrow Thu 19-Jun-08 20:22:15

DS gets about 10-11 at night (broken up half the time with the walk to my bed angry), and a couple of hours in the day - although that is easing off now.

mad4mybaby Thu 19-Jun-08 21:06:43

so my ds sounds pretty normal then?! Just dont know what i can do to get him to stay asleep an extra hour in the morning. I wouldnt mind 6.30! That'd be a lay in! Any suggestions? If i cut his nap is it not mean? Surely if he's asleep he needs it? His nap has been the same for along time, since he went to 1 nap. about aged 1 i think. Any suggestions oh wise ones??

emita Fri 20-Jun-08 14:40:45

My ds sounds identical to yours! He sleeps 7:30pm to 5am and no matter what we do he doesn't sleep any longer. He will happily nap 2-2.5 hours. He used to sleep 12 hours a night! Is your ds very active during the day as I have heard that early waking is more common with active boys. Can't wait for the magic answer to get back to 6am waking (never thought I would think 6am was a lay in!)...

heymammy Fri 20-Jun-08 14:46:40

DD2 23 months sleeps 14-15 hours out of 24. 12 thru the night and 2-3 during the day.

She napped until 5pm yesterday and still went to bed at 7 shock

CatIsSleepy Fri 20-Jun-08 14:49:22

dd sleeps about 11 hours a night, and can sleep up to 3 hours in the day (though I don't think she naps for that long the days when she's at the childminder's, more like 1-2 hours I think)

fluffyanimal Fri 20-Jun-08 14:53:09

DS goes to sleep between 7.30 and 8pm, and wakes between 5.30 and 6.30, has a daytime nap of about an hour.

mad4mybaby Mon 23-Jun-08 09:23:12

sorry, im going to moan again. I really cant keep getting up at 5am. Im so exhausted. I go to bed early and try to nap when he does! Running out of steam! For the last3 days i have been waking him up after 1 1/2 hours at naptime to see if it helps....not yet!

IdrisTheDragon Mon 23-Jun-08 09:24:58

DD is 2.9. Doesn't nap during the day (hasn't for about a year). Generally sleeps between about 11 and 12 hours at night.

mad4mybaby Mon 23-Jun-08 09:28:05

ds is only 2 this month and there is no way he cant have a nap. He falls asleep in the car if we're out an hour or so before naptime!

hairtwiddler Mon 23-Jun-08 09:32:12

Mine has 12-13 hours a night with no nap (7-7:30-8am). Gave up the nap at 2yrs. She's 2.6 now.

Walnutshell Mon 23-Jun-08 09:36:25

You may have to grin and bear it for a while mad4. ds (now 2.7) went through a longish phases of getting up at that unforgiveable time but, like you have found, putting him to bed later made no difference and I agree he also needed his nap. Now he usually wakes around 6.15-6.45am (an improvement, alhtough not a marvellous one) and sometimes has a nap in the afternoon (anything from 15 mins nod-off in the car to a marathon 3 hours) and is in bed by 7.30pm ideally (earlier if no nap) although on the occasion he's had a very long nap, it might be a bit later.

Erm, sorry, haven't given you much hope there!

Walnutshell Mon 23-Jun-08 09:38:25

mad4 - just re-reading your last posts. Exactly the same experience as you and in our case it has only been time that has changed things. But these phases don't seem to drag on for too long, although it feels it at the time. (Even now I will sometimes go to bed in the afternoon when ds does)

Now, the getting into our bed around 3/4am every single night is another matter!

JRocks Mon 23-Jun-08 09:42:13

DS is 2.7... he usually goes to bed between 7.30-8 and gets up at about 7am. Naps are quite random, I don't usually schedule one into the day, but if we're out in the car he'll fall asleep, or at home if he's really tired will nod off on the sofa. I try not to let him sleep for too long during the day as it does affect how much he'll have overnight. He can be quite grouchy if I wake him but I try to get out in the fresh air quite quickly as a distraction. I've found lots of physical activity does help. I read once that toddlers are like labradors, they need lots of exercise! Certainly true of DS smile

firststeps Tue 24-Jun-08 13:49:44

hi mad4mybaby - DS1 was a lot like this at around 18 months - 2yrs, he would sleep for England during the day, napping for 2-3 hours and I ALWAYS had to wake him, but was up at 5.30am on the dot for months. I eventually cut his nap to an hour 1pm - 2pm and although hit took him a few days to adjust he did start sleeping til 6.30am/7am reliably. he is now 2.7 and I sometimes even have to wake him up in the morning - so there is hope.... smile

bonkerz Tue 24-Jun-08 13:51:36

DD is 28m and sleeps 6pm till 7am then will sleep in afternoon from 12.30 till 2.30 ish. Nap is normall 3 or 4 times a week only!

Karathraceandherspecialdestiny Tue 24-Jun-08 14:00:02

dd 23 months - bed 7.15, wakes 6.30am, naps about 1.5-2 hours from 12.30.

We have been through phases of earlier/later wake up times but it doesn't seem to be specifically related to anything. Sorry not much help. If she wakes before 6 we generally refuse to get her out of cot (unless she's ill) but will go in once to sshh her.

vonsudenfed Tue 24-Jun-08 14:00:44

Just out of interest, what time does your ds eat his tea? Because that's what made the difference to us.

DD was doing just this - huge sleep in daytime, waking up at 6.00am at the latest - a few months ago, but it all changed when the clocks went back. We tried to make the change gradually, and suddenly fell into a pattern where she was sleeping until 7

We worked out that the difference wasn't the sleep times, but the fact that she was having her tea 30-45 min later, at 5.30 ish, so she must have been waking up when she was hungry.

Either that or she just grew out of it, but it's worth a go.

bogie Tue 24-Jun-08 14:04:51

Ds sleeps about 10 hours at night and 1-2 2-3 hours nap in the day.he is 2.6

Usually dd goes to bed at 7.15pm and gets up at 7am. Every couple of days she has an afternoon nap for 1 or 2 hours.

Going to sleep is a different matter as now she is in a bed she often gets up and plays for a while. Last night was a bad night, she went to sleep at 9.30pm, and was up at 6.30am.

fairylights Tue 24-Jun-08 14:20:04

mad4mybaby - my ds is only 19 mo but just wanted to say he sounds like he has EXACTLY the same sleep pattern as your ds. I have tried the approach of less daytime sleep to see if he will sleep longer (like til 6am!!) but it doesn't seem to make much difference and he also gets very grouchy. The only thing that has totally knocked him our til 6.30am recently has been when we stayed with my parents with a big garden and he played football for about 3 hours with my dad after his nap - but this is something i can't really do every day!
Just keep telling myself that in about 12 years time i will be trying to think of ways to get him OUT of bed.. grin

Powerofjoy2004 Tue 24-Jun-08 21:36:58

My dd gave up naps altogether when she was a year old. She never slept more than four hours without waking up. This went on for years. Turned out she had ADD and was hyperactive. Eventually, brainwave biofeedback and cutting out sugar helped.

tryingtoleave Mon 07-Jul-08 12:26:38

Why don't you try a later bedtime, rather than getting rid of nap? DS, 24 months, goes to bed at 9 and gets up around 8. He has a two hour nap. I know a lot of people would hate the late bedtime, but we prefer to sleep in.

Seona1973 Mon 07-Jul-08 20:03:35

have you tried 'wake to sleep'? An hour before the usual wake time you disturb them a little to bring them out of deep sleep and then let them go back to sleep again. I did it with dd when she started waking at 5am. With ds(21 months) I just try to ignore him for as long as possible and then go in tell him its sleep time, switch on his music box and give him his taggy and leave the room again. Theres no way I'm starting my day at 5am!!

MuffinMclay Mon 07-Jul-08 20:16:41

Ds1 2.2 years sleeps from 7pm (ish) until 5.30-6.30 am, and has 1.5-2 hours nap in the day (but not every day, maybe 5 out of 7). He is very, very grumpy if he doesn't get his nap (like today). If he wakes up at 5.30 then he is falling asleep and begging to go to bed by about 10.30 am ('bed, bed, bed, mummy' in small plaintive voice).

We tried cutting out the nap - made no difference to when he woke up.

SwissCheese Mon 07-Jul-08 20:47:35

DS nearly 3, sleeps approx 10 hours at night with a 1 hour nap during the day. He needs longer as he gets very grumpy but he once he wakes it's like switching on a machine that just roars into action, with no 'snooze' or 'slow' mode.

BeckyClissmann Mon 29-Apr-13 06:46:39

This is all so interesting. DD is 22 months and on the whole a pretty good sleeper. Bed at 7pm but wakes around 6ish but we do not get her out of bed until 7.30 am. Usually 2 hour nap at 1-3pm - can be 1 hour some days. DH is of the view that a later bedtime will cure early mornings but my gut instinct is it will not and the majority of posts on this thread seem to confirm that. I think a 7pm bedtime is important - esp so adults can have a proper child free evening (when else will I do all my chores as I work full time?!) I also don't want to drop the nap as DD can be v grumpy without it. I was interested that someone mentioned a later tea as that might get us that extra precious 30's got to be worth a go!

TwentyTinyToes Mon 29-Apr-13 07:19:35

Ds is 2.3, he sleeps 7.15pm ish to 6-7am ish and no daytime sleep. We cut out his nap about 3 weeks ago because he had started getting up between 4-5am and was a nightmare to get to sleep. He had coped really well and is obviously tired by bedtime but goes to sleep now instead of mucking about. He will drop off in the car but i try to avoid long journeys later in the day and if he does sleep i wake him as soon as possible. Also sleeps better when outside a lot and lots of physical activity.

omama Mon 29-Apr-13 22:33:54

mad4 try pushing his nap later. Early waking is linked to having the nap too early. He sleeps a short night because he can catch up with his nap. Then he takes a long nap because his night was too short. Its a vicious cycle & the only way to break it is to do a later nap. I'd suggest trying 1pm initially, wait a couple of weeks & see if his wakeup time improves. If no change try pushing nap to 1.30pm. If you want to keep your 7.30pm bedtime i'd prob let him sleep absolutely no later than 3.30pm. That is still a really good restorative nap for him so he shouldn't get overtired.

We had to do this with ds & it worked a treat. From 2-2.5yrs his routine was up 7 nap 1/1.30-3.30 bed 8pm so approx 13hrs in 24.

Now at 2.8 he naps 2-3 times a week from 2-4pm & bed at 8pm, on no nap days he's down at 6.30pm! Still sleeps around 13hrs in 24 (unless he gets overtired then its less)

edwardsmum11 Sat 04-May-13 03:53:07

20mth old ds here... has 1 or 2 hrs of naps a day and sleep 12 to 12 1/2 hrs sleep overnight most nights.

ds 2.6 sleeps 8pm - anything between 5-7.30 am (usually more towards the 5am mark) naps 10 am 1 1/2 - 3 hours in the day is a nightmare without his nap completely changes his personality

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