Daytime nap chaos!

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chloechloe Mon 22-Jun-15 10:21:43

DD is 12 weeks old. We have got her into quite a good night time routine - she is generally down for the night from 8pm to 7/8 am (though her bedtime tends to vary an hour or so either way depending on how the day has gone). She usually sleeps for a first stretch of 4 hours and then wakes hungry every 3 hours.

For the last couple of weeks her daytime naps have turned into total chaos however! She used to have maybe 2 longer naps and 2 shorter ones. Now she repeatedly wakes up after 25-45 min (usually after 30 min). I spend 20 min trying to get her back to sleep which sometimes works but usually doesn't. If she gets past the magic 45 min mark she can then sleep for 2-3 hours.

I've read that waking up like this can mean she's either over or undertired. She tends to be obviously tired after 1h20 min of awake time so I doubt she is undertired. I have tried windng her down after 1hr of awake time so she is asleep at the 1h30 mark but this doesn't help her sleep through either.

Any advice? I feel like I spend the best part of the day either BFing or trying to get her to nap. On a bad day she has 5x30 min naps and then goes into a total overtired meltdown at bedtime. I'm trying to follow an EASY routine with her but this goes to pot when she's awake after 30min. I'm starting to wonder if it's a developmental phase and I just need to wait for her to grow out of it?

timealone Mon 22-Jun-15 11:00:51

30-45 min is about the length of one sleep cycle, so they usually do wake after that. It's normal though, and perhaps better than having long naps as they can only stay awake about 1.5 hours at that age, so short frequent naps are good. My DS started transitioned to longer naps at 5-6 months.

hazel88 Mon 22-Jun-15 11:30:35

I created a thread called '4 month sleep regression - oh.my.god' and separate to this we've been talking about our LO's naps who are all around this age who now take 30 minute naps. I don't know any babies at this age who do take the longer and less frequent naps recommended at this age! My DD takes about 5x 30 min naps a day and she usually goes between 1.5-2 hours between each nap. I've considered over/undertiredness and have bought nap time earlier/pushed it back and it hasn't changed anything. It seems very common at this age despite what all of the books tell you about having 4 naps with some being quite long! It's frustrating as LO doesn't seem refreshed after naps and I can't get anything done in half an hour blush Maybe consider gradually bringing bedtime earlier? We moved it from about 8pm to 6.30pm but done it within a couple of days and DD was only down 30 mins as she was confused and thought it was nap time not bedtime haha!

hazel88 Mon 22-Jun-15 11:37:14

Oh and DD is super - sleepy today and is currently on her third nap already!

chloechloe Mon 22-Jun-15 11:53:32

Thanks for your replies. Maybe I just need to roll with it. It's just so labour intensive as the amount of time it takes to get her to nap barely warrants the 30min nap time. I feel like I don't get anything done either hazel! I will go and check out the other thread as well. The downside of moving bedtime even further forward is that DH would barely see her.

Yep maybe I'm getting too distracted by all these books that tell me she should be having 3 naps of 1.5-2 hours. How I wish!

Perhaps I need to work on getting her to settle for naps more quickly or by herself. Any tips for that?

hazel88 Mon 22-Jun-15 12:34:42

Babies can't usually self - settle until 6 months. I'm the same at the moment, it takes SO long sometimes to settle DD - some times longer than the nap itself!I wouldn't worry about it too much at the moment though. there's a 12 week growth spurt which can wreak havoc with sleep and settling. Hang in there it sounds like you're doing a great jobsmile

Have you tried the pick up put down method? I rock DD until she's drowsy and quiet then put her down. she then cries or fusses so I pick her up and repeat. can often take a few attempts but works well for us to be able to put her down drowsy.

DP doesn't get to see DD much either - only about half an hour tops when he gets in. unfortunately it's just the way it has to be though as DD needs her sleep. DP will bath her when he gets in so they get a bit of time together but if we push bedtime later she doesn't get the sleep she needs.

chloechloe Mon 22-Jun-15 12:52:03

I'm dreading the 12 week growth spurt! For the 6 week one she was practically velcroed to my boob from 6pm to 12pm every night. And then the 4 month sleep regression after that, or both at once!?!?

I used to rock DD and also pu/pd but recently it hasn't worked so well. Now I put her in her cot and ssh/pat instead with white noise on! The main problem is that she likes flailing her arms and legs about until she calms down enough to go to sleep. I usually swaddle her but she Houdinis herself out. Sometimes I think she just needs to get all her last energy out and make a point of objecting before she can settle down to sleep.!

hazel88 Mon 22-Jun-15 12:59:19

Haha that last paragraph describes my DD!

she always has a cry before a sleep when I try to put her down. it seems she just has to do it. she fights naps as I don't think she wants to miss anything! Hoping you skip the 4m sleep regression, if you do you'll wonder why you ever thought her current sleep regime was a problem haha. sorry that's not very helpful grin

hazel88 Mon 22-Jun-15 14:43:44

Ok so after I've been saying, DD has just had a 2 hour nap! I can't remember the last time that happened. She's very sleepy today and I've just gone with it letting her sleep when she's obviously tired

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