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Misery Loves Company...nope. Still not sleeping.

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ElphabaTheGreen · 13/02/2015 14:32

Long-term sleep deprivation getting you down?

Join us here for Brew Brew Brew and plenty of sympathy.

Ride the mo-fo out or something must be done - the choice is yours.

And remember the First Rule of Sleep Club - do not mention that things are going well or you will PAY.

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scottygirl5 · 13/02/2015 18:48

Carrying over from the last thread...Attitude I sympathise with you, being awake for hours in the middle of the night is the pits. Hope for a better night tonight!

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RaspberryBlonde · 13/02/2015 18:57

Thanks for new thread Elph.

Attitude, super early waking is about the only sleep issue that we don't have yet. Left to her own devices she wakes about 730, I feel guilty and slightly smug in equal measure when I have to wake her an hour earlier than that on work days Blush

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 13/02/2015 19:50

Thanks for the new thread Elph

Scotty I'm always hoping for a good night, could do with one tonight. I'm sure we all could Smile

Raspberry I hope that's one habit she doesn't drop. We've actually had two 7:15 starts to the day this week which is unheard of but very welcome. Unfortunately today's was spoiled by dh's alarm going off at 6:45 despite the fact he was working from home today Angry

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timeforsleepnow · 13/02/2015 21:07

Scotty, struggling with naps sucks. You have my sympathies too. DD still only naps in her pram but they have often come and gone in phases so I hope that things improve soon.

Attitude - that sounds rubbish, a very long wake up. Was he crying all that time? I hope tonight is better

I guess i shouldn't say how DD's sleep is! but the crying is getting worse, she cries inconsolably when she goes down and my patting and shushing does nothing to calm her. Last night at about 11 she just screamed and screamed and screamed. I mean screaming until she was almost sick. I am starting to doubt that I have made the right decision. Having her crying like this is not what I wanted at all. Has anyone any experience of this? Does it get better?

Good luck to those starting new sleep plans. I don't want to put anyone off with my tales of crying!

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ElphabaTheGreen · 13/02/2015 21:19

I'm afraid it never got better here time, not until we worked with Ann who does a whole myriad of other voodoo and child-cloning stuff on top of the gradual withdrawal. I tried what you're doing two or three times with DS1 and it never worked. He screamed just as hard whether I was in the room sat next to him patting and shushing or sat outside the room. It pushed him into complete cot refusal.

I only say this in the hope that the first rule of sleep club has the reverse effect, and by telling you how appallingly hopeless it was for me, it will shortly turn around completely for you. Grin

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ChocolateIsMySleep · 13/02/2015 21:52

Ooh shiny new thread, thanks Elph! This thread they're definitely going to start sleeping and we'll have to have a smug graduates thread!

House of lurgy here again. DD1 had temp last night and all day and DD2 is a snot tap. Both dosed up on ibuprofen and fingers crossed. Ended up on DD1s floor till 1 am last night but then no more wakes till 4.30 am so have had worse that is not an invitation to to try harder DCs.

Agree that naps are fecking annoying. DD1 in particular was a nightmare for falling asleep in the car or buggy but then couldn't be transferred anywhere. That was helpful when we were living in a flat.

DD2 is still having two shortish naps at 13 months. Pretty sure she's meant to be on one longer one by now. Still it's handy for getting tea ready that's the nail in that coffin then

Time, yes I've had those nights with both DDs. Thankfully not so bad with DD2 who still has a dummy so there are breaks in the crying and she never gets into a total state - I'd probably cave if she did. I just sit and hold her hand and comfort her as best I can without giving in and feeding.

Looking forward to the reports of Ann-magic to come please don't leave me all alone though

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ElphabaTheGreen · 13/02/2015 21:58

Just need to boast - I made a comment on an MN thread which, in turn, made it onto Buzzfeed. Can you see me? Can you see me? Grin Grin

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timeforsleepnow · 13/02/2015 22:09

Ha! I can see you Elph ??

Maybe I will be getting sleep consultant part 2 then. I just feel like I am letting her down by letting her cry like this. I don't know how much longer I can carry on.
Any tips as to Ann's no crying voodoo?

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Cakeismymaster · 13/02/2015 22:31

Permission to join please ladies...17 month old horror sleeper dd here - shaped up to be a good one for all of 2 weeks when she was 10 weeks old, then bang - 12 week jabs and she has never looked back...she had a few better nights when we stopped bf at 13 mths but now at 17 mths has ensured she is worse than ever.

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 13/02/2015 22:56

Ha ha that's hillarious Elph, what a twat Grin

time that sounds awful, not sure what to suggest but I hope things improve for you and dd v soon. He wasn't crying just very much awake while I was struggling to keep my eyes open. Was about to call in DH to take over then he went to sleep.

Chocolate I hope the ibuprofen does its job tonight, DS is also dosed up. Has woken once so far.

Welcome Cake, pull up a chair your post scares me a bit being the mother of a 13 month old crappy sleeper

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Cakeismymaster · 13/02/2015 23:10

attitude don't be scared, dc1 here was another horror sleeper but a miracle occurrd at 13 months and he started sleeping thru, now has to be forcibly removed from bed in the mornings. So there is hope Smile

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 13/02/2015 23:24

Phew! Thank you Grin

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scottygirl5 · 14/02/2015 07:46

time poor you, that sounds so distressing. I hope it's just a blip and she settles soon. I'm really hoping that doesn't happen when we start our work, think I'd end up caving and defeating the whole purpose of getting help.

cake welcome, your post scares me too! DD1 magically went from 8 wake ups a night to 2 at 10 months so I've always clung to the hope that they just grow out of it but maybe they don't!

Everyone else, sorry to hear me illness etc. We had about 10 wake ups last night and a 5 am start .

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 14/02/2015 08:56

Oh scotty that's grim. Cake and Brew for you.

We had a 5:10 start too as after half an hour he didn't look like going back to sleep and quite frankly I cba to sit in the room with him any longer. Sent DH in with him instead and went back to bed. Don't know what he's doing but he's making my nipples quite tender at the moment, I thought we'd got past that stage Hmm

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timeforsleepnow · 14/02/2015 11:50

Oh scotty 10 wake ups certainly is grim. I know what that feels like. How long until you start the sleep plan with Ann?

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 14/02/2015 15:29

time how was last night? Any better?

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scottygirl5 · 14/02/2015 17:08

time, in march, can't wait!

attitude could the sore nipples be teething related?

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ChocolateIsMySleep · 14/02/2015 18:03

Hello all! Just been to shops for lots more ibuprofen... Wink

Attitude I also wonder about the soreness as being teething related, DD2 seems to have a different and painful suck when a tooth is coming through.

Time have you spoken to your sleep consultant about the crying? Can she suggest anything? Maybe go back one step and take it a bit more slowly? (Eg pick up and comfort but not feed?) Or could it be something else upsetting her like teeth or a bug?

Elph - I saw that thread at the time and had a good chuckle. Not sure if OP was genuine or being very tongue in cheek but it was highly entertaining all the same.

I have another sleep club rule that I worked out with DD1 and I've been reminded of lately - never, ever, think 'we've cracked it!'. Cos sure as eggs is eggs some bastard event will come along and fuck it all up again.

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ElphabaTheGreen · 14/02/2015 18:55

Sorry time - I can't share any of Ann's magic ways on a public forum as she has a book in the works and doesn't want to be gazumped.

DS1's nap elimination is occasionally back-firing, I have to say. We had a total melt-down at 4pm today, resulting in him screaming until he fell asleep on the living room floor. He did the same thing the other night, but at 6:15. Somehow, DH managed to get a nappy and pyjama bottoms onto him and spirit him upstairs into bed with only a half-arsed sceam of protest when the process roused him slightly.

I'm starting to wonder if I could use the same strategy when I get overtired...Hmm

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 14/02/2015 18:57

Evening...

I think he's definitely teething so it could well be that. I hope it passes soon, especially as he's feeding so frequently at the moment. Will have to dig out the lansinoh again.

We were out shopping today and he only managed a 50 minute nap all day and that's with a v early start. Not sure how that will affect tonight. We will see! He's asleep now thank goodness. Valentine's day here is M&S food and a DVD. The sophistication Wink

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ElphabaTheGreen · 14/02/2015 18:59

Oh, hello Cake.

What depresses me is that this thread (including its antecedents), and therefore my sleep deprivation, is older than most of the babies on here

My own fecking fault for reproducing again. I could be sleeping and shaking my head patronisingly at you lot now. Sad

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HoggleHoggle · 14/02/2015 19:07

Hello! Can I join please?! Got a ds 14 months...slept through magically 5-10 months and then decided to sod that off and fuck about instead.

He is a good night sleeper mostly but does so love an early wake up, 5am today. We have a few good days, think 'oooh we've got it this time' and then ds clearly senses we're winning and puts us back in our place.

It seems a bit relentless. The first year of shit sleep I took as a given, why oh why am I still so tired?!

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timeforsleepnow · 14/02/2015 21:43

Attitude - unfortunately last night was worse. It was DH's first go at settling her and she literally screamed blue murder

Elph - no worries, can you tell her to hurry up and get it published!

Tonight I caved and let her suck my finger to go to sleep. This is a little nap habit that she has. True to form she woke 30 mins later. I just can't bear to see her upset. I just wish I knew what the right thing to do is. I think am I emotionally damaging her by doing this, the sleep deprivation was certainly emotionally damaging me!

Chocolate - thanks for the advice. We have her some calpol in case it is her teeth. After the first wake up I persevered with more pick up put down and we got her to sleep in the end. I did email the sleep consultant and she said to go back a step. I have gone back more than one step... But not so far as to let her sleep attached to my boob!

Elph - we still would like 2, I think we are mental

Why is parenting so blimmin hard

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AttitudeOfGratitude · 14/02/2015 22:23

Sorry to hear that time, hopefully taking the steps back will help. It's really hard sometimes isn't it.

We've had 3 wake ups already. DH and I are watching Gone Girl in instalments. I think tonight is going to be bad.

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MistletoeBUTNOwine · 14/02/2015 22:40

Can I join? DS is 13 months and I'm beyond tired...
Co sleeps and usually wakes for a little bf a few times a night but recently wanted to play at 4am Hmm
He went to sleep at 7 ish tonight (one nap a day now) but woke 4 times before 9, and now still wide awake.
I could cry I'm so tired Sad

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