Please help me tackle early waking! (21mo)

(37 Posts)
sleepcrisis Sun 17-Mar-13 19:08:16

DS has started waking at 530 with the dawn chorus. We have recently moved to an area where there are a lot I birds! He used to wake at 7, then 645, then 615 and now this big jump to 530. I wouldn't mind so much if he wasn't so grumpy by mid morning.

I am wondering if there is something I can do with his routine. His room is pretty dark, I don't think I could block out any more light.

He currently goes to sleep around 7. I sometimes try for 630-645 if he's had an early or short nap.

He usually naps for 1hr 15 mins anywhere between 12-2pm. Usually he drops off over his lunch around midday. The last few days he's been sleeping closer to 2 hrs which I guess he is using to catch up on night time sleep. I always make sure he's awake by 2pm or he won't go down at bedtime.

I can't just go in at 530 and tell him to go back to sleep. He'd scream if I left the room. I have to stroke him to sleep at bedtime (yawn) so I've definitely won't self settle a 530am.

Help! Please!

sleepcrisis Sun 24-Mar-13 17:41:56

Hi, sorry I haven't been back in a while. Just thought I'd let you know we've had some success this week. I got so for up that I put gaffa tape all the way around his black out blind and it is totally pitch black. He now sleeps until anywhere between 6 and 7, so a big improvement. This morning he woke at 545, chatted for 5mins and then slept until 8am!!! Seriously it is like a cave in there but who cares. It wouldn't be an option though if you have beautiful wooden windows...

2kidsintow Sun 24-Mar-13 17:51:56

On the plus side.... clocks go forward next week, so a littlun that now wakes at half 5 will actually be waking at half 6.

On the downside, the mornings will continue to get lighter. Which might undo things.

Blackout blinds.
Move beds/cots across the room away from the window to cut down on dawn chorus noise.
Persistant "no, it's still sleep tim"
and a slightly later bedtime?

lookout Sun 24-Mar-13 18:15:41

sleepcrisis I've heard people have had success with those stick on blackout blinds, and had wondered if it would make a difference. So glad you are getting more sleep, what a result! May try it myself.

Daisy17 Mon 25-Mar-13 09:50:22

Soultrain, snap! Esp about the feeling like he could do with more sleep but just can't switch off again. I think it's just him too. It's certainly me! Those whose littlies have grown out of it - when?! Am very lucky as am a teacher on holiday now, sending DS to nursery as normal today so I can --catch up on mn--have a long siesta.....

Daisy17 Mon 25-Mar-13 09:51:41

That crossing out thing didn't work, did it?! blush

forcedinsomnia Mon 25-Mar-13 17:12:42

Ditto to most of these posts.....0430-0530 most days. Was 0600 this morning and did nothing different though. Watching with interest!! Ps he is a totally crap daytime napper unless at home in his cot and in total silence. Wakes if his dad farts downstairs!!! Could this be a link??

er1507 Mon 25-Mar-13 18:42:58

My 20mo dd is exactly the same. Same nap times and length. Same rise time and we have birds. She was actually stirring around 5.45 the other morning a few birds started tweeting que dd to shoot up and start shouting "biiiiiiiirrds. Biiiiirrrrrds. Mum mum biiiiiiiiiirds" I wake up wishing I had a gun to shoot them!

Disclaimer...I would never actually shoot ANYTHING.

omama Mon 25-Mar-13 20:19:30

op - when my ds woke early at around that age (which he did for a very long time), our magic cure was to push his nap gradually later. Doing it for a few days won't do anything, you need to do it slowly (15mins/week) & consistently for several weeks before you will see a real improvement. At your ds's age I would say 1pm is a good naptime to aim for.

As you shift the nap later he may well need his bedtime shifting slightly later too, assuming he continues to take a 2hr nap. With a 1pm nap I would aim for around 8pm. You might cringe at the thought of 8pm BT but I've found I've had to accept as my ds got older that he is only going to sleep 10.5-11hrs at night while he still naps, & that means if I want him up at 6.30-7am he needs to go to bed at 8pm. If he goes any earlier, he will be up early.

The only alternative to the later BT is to limit the nap to say 1hr instead, but my ds was so foul after a capped nap & woke multiple times through the night from being overtired, so I had no choice but to accept a longer nap & slightly shorter night. It completely worked for us, we've never suffered with EW since I did this & ds (now 2.7) regularly wakes between 7-9am.

omama Mon 25-Mar-13 20:29:50

and just a though - clocks change at the weekend so you wouldn't even have to push everything later as it'll happen automatically!

nellyjelly Mon 25-Mar-13 20:35:34

IME nothing works. DD used to wake from 5 am onwards but once she started school she just seemed to start to sleep later. I think it just comes with more maturity. DS is 2 and he is 5.30 onwards. I have just learned to live with it. I go to bed at 9pm most nights and drink lots of coffee. Have a Costa loyalty card!

lookout Sat 30-Mar-13 08:01:14

I mentioned briefly up thread that I had a sleep consultant give us a hand in October last year to tackle ds 2 not sleeping through. Within three nights this baby who had been waking the to for times a night bite sleepy through without fail! She had given me a plan to try and cure the early waking. We are on day two. Day one he woke at half seven! Today not as good, ten past six, but still a vast improvement on five am! We have four days to go, and she is adamant this will work! Will let you knowsmile

lookout Sat 30-Mar-13 08:02:38

Silly phone. Three to four times a nightgrin

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