Wow - Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes divorcing!

(114 Posts)
thequietone Fri 29-Jun-12 18:31:41

Well I never...

AnnaMosity Fri 29-Jun-12 18:32:07

Oh that's OLD news.

AuntyMo Fri 29-Jun-12 18:32:42

So pleased for her. She looks so unhappy and brittle these days.

Maybe their 'contract' ran out and she didnt want to renew. They obviously were never in love.

LiviaAugusta Fri 29-Jun-12 18:34:09

Good for her. There's something a bit creepy about him and they've never looked 'right' together.

thequietone Fri 29-Jun-12 18:34:32

Old news that was released about 22 minutes ago...unless you mean it was obvious from recent reports?

Looking forward to seeing a smile on her face again!

wasnt there a rumour that she was only with him as part of some contract, he had the same thing going with Nicole Kidman aswell.

winnybella Fri 29-Jun-12 18:42:49

Contract has run out. They were never 'together'.

thequietone Fri 29-Jun-12 18:43:55

Really? How long were he and Nicole married?

NimpyWindowMash Fri 29-Jun-12 18:47:49

I can't believe that - about the contract. Why would anyone do that? To actually have a child with someone? She was successful in her own right.

SoupDragon Fri 29-Jun-12 18:52:04

Why would anyone do that?

Money
Fame
Raised profile

Sleepydog Fri 29-Jun-12 20:02:31

didn't realise this was his third marriage .

Wonder who his next victim wife will be .

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:03:33

Yes.

Money
Fame
Raised profile
Excellent beardage

VerityClinch Fri 29-Jun-12 20:04:08

Lol at the idea Suri was Tom's child grin

SoupDragon Fri 29-Jun-12 20:05:42

I think she probably is but it may have involved complicated IVF

Mintyy Fri 29-Jun-12 20:06:56

Can We Just Have The One Thread On This Topic Please HQ?

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:07:02

But why on earth would that be SoupDragon?

Didn't you hear him tell the world on Oprah that he was in love?

Those were the actions of a very straight man.

JosephineCD Fri 29-Jun-12 20:11:05

Why won't Tom Cruise come out as gay? Would it really be that big a deal in 2012?

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:12:50

Is there a really famous gay Hollywood star? One who portrays straight characters?

I can't think of any. Spose that's why.

Are you allowed to be a gay scientologist or do the aliens not allow that?

fireice Fri 29-Jun-12 20:14:06

'Those were the actions of a very straight man.'

They were the actions of a very strange man, but I don't think that you can extrapolate that to sexual orientation. grin

Ponders Fri 29-Jun-12 20:14:56

Kevin Spacey? or isn't he officially out?

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:18:39

Probably not fireice.

I was watching that back a few weeks ago. Just...is he high? Is he drunk? Is he just loopy? It's embarrassing, poor Oprah has no idea what to do with herself.

Oh, I dunno about Kevin Spacey, I think he basically doesn't hide it but not sure he's ever said "I'm gay". No need for people to make an announcement, obviously, but not sure why some go to such lengths to conceal it.

fireice Fri 29-Jun-12 20:23:07

Isnt Zac Efron gay?

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:24:16

If ZE is gay, he's not out.

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:26:43

Oh dear - I don't feel sorry for her though - she surely knew what she was getting into although hasn't raised her career in the same way it did with Nicole.

I still like Tom blush

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:27:39

I get why male stars conceal it - they would never play the big romantic lead in a big film if they were out - sad but true.

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:28:17

It hasn't raised her profile, but she did get to have a nice wee baby without pain relief and without being allowed to make any noise.

So I'm sure that was a high point for her.

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:29:31

It's stupid though, MrsCB. I actually think it's really insulting the public.

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:30:02

Did she actually say that though? I think a lot of stuff is reported about them but who knows what is true?

Tangointhenight Fri 29-Jun-12 20:30:08

Scientology does not permit people to be gay, its seen as an illness that can be cured by taking millions of vitamins.

topknob Fri 29-Jun-12 20:31:22

John Travolta is a scientolgist and from recent reports, if they are to be believed, is gay !

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:31:29

It may be stupid but great swathes of the public just will not pay to see a film be it action/romantic if the male lead is openly gay. So some actors presumably decide to hide their private lifes for that reason.

I don't understand why men wouldn't play a straight romantic lead if they were openly gay. It's not like the only thing stopping the female populatoon (those that want to) sleeping with tom c is his sexual orientation, surely?

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:32:20

Really Tango?

So homosexuality is caused by vitamin deficiency? So if a gay man, who was not in the know about scientology, went on a veg binge, he'd suddenly start fancying a bit of muff? And vice versa, if straight men aren't getting their 5 a day, they start craving cock?

That must be confusing.

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:32:20

John T is not gay - he just likes a nice massage wink

He just didn't eat his greens!

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:33:30

I really wonder if people would actually object to Hollywood actors being gay.

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:36:35

Some would yellow. Rupert Everett wrote about this in his autobiography - the 'studios' just don't think that the 'mid-west' buy into gay male leads playing straight roles.

Tangointhenight Fri 29-Jun-12 20:37:55

Apparently so, vitamins are held in complete reverence to them...I used to have my head filled with shite in work by one of them!

Think Katy got a lucky escape! Must go buy DH some tomatoes, and apples, and cod liver oil!!!!!

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:38:00

That's the studios though MrsCB. I'm talking about the public. I am sure some would, but I really do wonder if the majority are bothered.

Cheriefroufrou Fri 29-Jun-12 20:39:55

Is robin williams a scientologist too?

why do they "hide" their gayness? especially as they are apparently openly out in their holywood circles. So that means its just US they think will care?

HolyCameraConfusionBatman Fri 29-Jun-12 20:41:56

Kevin Spacey had said in interviews that he isn't gay, don't know if he is or not, but not 'out' if he is.

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:44:59

I think people like to buy into the idea of a celeb. Take George Clooney - women loved him in ER and as he was single - well I think many women think 'oooh if I met him' and it helps them to believe in him when he plays the romantic lead.

But if he was openly gay - a lot of people would struggle to see him in the same way playing those types of roles.

They all control their images so carefully now - publicists are very very fierce and apparently the really powerful ones will blacklist journalists if they are deemed to be not nice to any of the 'stars' they have on their books.

Even the straight ones seem to have lots of manufactured relationships.

And without causing too much controversy - I do think that a lot of the US is way more conservative in its views than the UK and thats a big big market

Ponders Fri 29-Jun-12 20:53:29

I love George because he is so decent

don't care if he's gay. I would happily just hold his hand & talk about liberal stuff grin

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 20:54:32

George is so decent he advertises Nestle.

Thanks George!

noddyholder Fri 29-Jun-12 20:56:01

She's done her 5 years

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 20:59:34

I love George - I could be his Mariella.

So according to this thread we have the following gay men in Hollywood posing as straight

Tom Cruise
George Clooney
John Travolta
Kevin Spacey
Robin Williams

Wow

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 21:07:06

I thougt Robin Williams shagged his nanny whilst married?

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 21:07:28

Will Smith?

perceptionreality Fri 29-Jun-12 21:11:45

I think the marriage was a sham but how could Suri not have been his? She looks so much like him.

HolyCameraConfusionBatman Fri 29-Jun-12 21:12:51

Will Smith is a scientologist as well I think. Why do you think all the secretly gay actors are in a cult religion that doesn't allow you to be gay?!

perceptionreality Fri 29-Jun-12 21:14:12

I think it's very sad that anyone feels they have to go to such lengths to hide their sexuality.

SoftKittyWarmKitty Fri 29-Jun-12 21:17:22

TC and KH was definitely a contract relationship allegedly. When they first got together I heard from a very good source that apparently Lindsay Lohan was initially approached by TC's people before KH was, but she turned down the contract (which iirc was for a 5 year marriage with one child).

I reckon KH will be all smiles now she's free from him and predict a photo like that photo of NK when her divorce from TC came through will soon appear in the press.

Moln Fri 29-Jun-12 21:18:57

Everyone is Hollywood is gay but pretends they aren't. 'Tis true.

The irony is that whilst a gay man doesn't get roles of a straight mane (has Rupert Evertt ever been cast in this role?) these men are actors and are paid to be something they aren't so it doesn't (shouldn't) matter what they are in real life

Stupid really!!!

stretch Fri 29-Jun-12 21:20:02

It's quite 'funny' that she is the one divorcing him. It makes him appear--less gay--......well.....like he didn't orchestrate this from the start. I would imagine that her breaking off from him was part of the alleged contract.

Moln Fri 29-Jun-12 21:26:49

I think a lot of, gay or not, actors are Scientologists because Scientology has artists as higher beings doesn't it?

sansucre Fri 29-Jun-12 21:29:20

From what I've been told by my friends in LA, who were the ones to tell me about George Clooney liking men sad Will Smith is definitely straight although his marriage is not a monogamous one, something his wife is completely happy about.

With regards to Tom and John Travolta, I've often suspected they're both Scientologists because the 'religion' promises to 'cure' homosexuality, I think Tom was introduced to it via his first wife Mimi.

The Hollywood not wanting to cast openly gay actors in lead roles is as old as Hollywood itself, just look at Rock Hudson and Montgomery Clift who spent their entire careers. Despite the power figures of Hollywood being made up of people with vastly varied sexual orientations, they've always had a very odd stance to homosexuality be it their leading men being opening gay or even characters on screen - in From Here to Eternity, Frank Sinatra's character trades sexual favours with men for cash, it's a big part of the book but is never even alluded to on screen.

Anyway I'm digressing..

Not really shocking about TomCat, am surprised they've lasted this long tbh. I guess all the money in the world wasn't enough for Katie Holmes. I think her film career never took off in the way promised to her. I wonder who he'll fall for next hmm

Oh sansucre you have made me very happy. I luuurrrrrrve Will Smith with a fervour unknown to mere mortals. I have never got the gay vibe from him, I would be heartbroken!

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 21:35:24

Why, Hearts? It makes no sense since you will never be with him anyway and women saying that shit is probably why so many gay actors don't come out.

Aaaah yes, yellowraincoat, but I can dream.....

Interesting point you make actually. I have honestly never thought about it that way before. I wonder if I would still "appreciate" certain actors or sportsmen if I knew they were gay? And that is exactly the reason they would hide it. How sad. I feel quite guilty.

I've never fancied Tom Cruise so can't comment there!

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 21:43:11

That is exactly is though Yellow and what I've been trying to say inarticulately after drinking prosecco.

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 21:44:07

Sansucre - interesting about From Here to Eternity but then in Breakfast at Tiffanys the fact that Holly was a prostitute is very glossed over.

MerryMarigold Fri 29-Jun-12 21:44:34

Why would anyone be unhappy being married to a gay guy? No pressure to have sex? A dh who (probably) packs his own suitcase and buys his own clothes? Why would you get divorced?

Jaffacakeeater Fri 29-Jun-12 21:47:27

Ooh ooh ooh, I know this story. My friend got friendly with a woman on holiday in Puerto RICO. Turned out she was actually the editor ok OK USA. She said Tom offered the deal to five young actresses and KH accepted. According to her, he lives on the west coast USA with his partner. She also said that Jude Law and Orlando Bloom had been lovers!!!

Moln Fri 29-Jun-12 21:50:46

In this case it's possible MerryMarigold that the gay man isn't very nice. There's something controlling about him (I say despite not knowing him)

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 29-Jun-12 21:52:30

Oh that's just not true about Jude and Orlando surely?

HolyCameraConfusionBatman Fri 29-Jun-12 21:53:10

I saw an interview with Jane Lynch (on Ellen) and she said that it was ok for her to be openly gay because she's a character actor, but if, for example, Julia Roberts was to come out as gay it would negatively affect her career because she needs to be perceived a certain way to play the kinds of roles she does, same with Tom Cruise et al I think.

yellowraincoat Fri 29-Jun-12 21:53:33

Maybe because you want to have an actual marriage, Merry. With sex and stuff?

Or maybe because it was all planned all along.

Jaffacakeeater Fri 29-Jun-12 21:55:02

@moln only that they are bisexual and enjoyed each other on occasion.

Jaffacakeeater Fri 29-Jun-12 21:56:32

No sorry @mrscampbell

Cheriefroufrou Fri 29-Jun-12 22:10:35

I thought will smith was straight, but in an open relationship... where he has to ask his wife's permission each time he sleeps with someone else and he can only stay with the OW for an hour or something.. but she doesn't sleep with other men

TwoIfBySea Fri 29-Jun-12 22:12:52

I wonder if the truth about what went on during the MI:Ghost Protocol shoot will come out then. I'd heard Katie was happy to keep quiet as she was already stacking up a decent amount of evidence against Tom.

I don't know if the one he was infatuated with is gay too, certainly a lot of rumours and I suppose it would matter in somewhere like America where politicians make being gay sound criminal.

There was a brilliant interview with Jessica Alba, just before he hitched up with Katie. She told of an audition where she was given the outline of the relationship she was to have with a "big star", made it very clear who it was. She said no.

Will Smith isn't gay (I don't think so at least) but I believe his wife is.

MrsGuyOfGisbourne Fri 29-Jun-12 22:18:33

Kevin Spacey was definitely out recently when he was in London - didn;t realise there was any question about it. Anazing that it is still an issue - why om earth does anyone care?

Mintyy Fri 29-Jun-12 22:31:15

Yellowraincoat
I think merrymarigold was joking, or being ironic.

Mintyy Fri 29-Jun-12 22:32:40

Male homosexual actors care because they very rarely get cast in heterosexual roles - thus severely restricting their careers and their earning power.

In rl no-one cares.

Cheriefroufrou Fri 29-Jun-12 22:34:50

"Male homosexual actors care because they very rarely get cast in heterosexual roles - thus severely restricting their careers and their earning power"

but they're all apparently openly out within holywood society.. so they're out to the people DOING the castings???

LulaPalooza Fri 29-Jun-12 22:43:00

MrsCampbellBlack you're thinking of Robin Gibb, not Robin Williams grin

LulaPalooza Fri 29-Jun-12 22:48:05

Cherie - it's the $$$ that matters... if you're openly gay, punters won't go to see your movie/ buy the DVD etc. if you're cast in a straight romantic lead.

There is still a huge amount of intolerance in the world, and what others have said about gay actors not getting "big" roles, unless they are character roles (e.g. Sir Ian McKellen and, more recently, Kevin Spacey) is depressingly true.

KH has looked so dead behind the eyes for the past few years, except when alone with Suri. Lucky for her that her contract is up.

Sad way to live a chunk of your life though.

passivehoovering Fri 29-Jun-12 22:51:24

So, will Katie ever see Suri again? II wonder who the children will call " mummy " now

mummytime Fri 29-Jun-12 23:09:09

Yes women can relate to openly gay men romantically in film (John Barrowman as Captain Jack in Dr Who for example). Just as you can relate romantically to men in old films, I remember thinking as a teen watching "The Boyfriend" that in reality those men were old enough to be my Dad.

There are also those brave "straight" actors who play gay roles. Although I just wait now to be told they are all gay (just like most men in history are now claimed to be gay).

Cheriefroufrou Fri 29-Jun-12 23:19:10

isn't Tom Hardy gay? and is there a single red blooded woman who didn't "relate" wink to him in Wuthering Heights?

queenofthepirates Fri 29-Jun-12 23:23:13

I still fancy George Michael far more than I ought to, a little part of me still wonders if I can 'turn' him.

SoupDragon Sat 30-Jun-12 07:28:35

"So, will Katie ever see Suri again? "

That is a very good point.

MrsCampbellBlack Sat 30-Jun-12 07:29:13

No Robin Williams also had an affair with his nanny and went on to marry her - was quite a while back though. God knows why I remember stuff like this though.

SoupDragon Sat 30-Jun-12 07:31:51

WRT to gay actors, it will be interesting to see what Zachary Quinto gets cast in now he has come out as gay.

SoupDragon Sat 30-Jun-12 07:33:46

"But why on earth would that be SoupDragon?

Didn't you hear him tell the world on Oprah that he was in love?

Those were the actions of a very straight man."

[snort]

Because of fertility problems rather than sexual orientation grin

bettybat Sat 30-Jun-12 09:30:59

But when was the last time Tom Cruise had a romantic lead? As in his character actually had a love interest? The last one I can remember is Open Your Eyes with Penelope Cruz/Cameron Diaz. And even then it wasn't really swoony love of my life kinda thing - it was a life affirming/bachelor discovers the meaning of life kind of thing.

These days he's an action lead - though some people's bigotry might say a gay man can't be an action lead. Pfft. I guess the only point I'm making is that it's just occurred to me that TC hasn't had a love interest in his films in aaaaaaaages.

I fancy Neil Patrick Harris. I do think they can still have the same effect on you regardless of sexuality but I also don't think a lot of the mid west and deep south of America would share my view. And that's a large number of cinema ticket buying people

bettybat Sat 30-Jun-12 09:59:34

Sorry not Open Your Eyes (that's the original Spanish one) but Vanilla Sky. But since Penelope Cruz repeatedly says "open your eyes, open you eyes, open your eyes" at the end as some kind of homage to the original, I can't be blamed for getting them mixed up grin

Dee03 Sat 30-Jun-12 10:06:22

No way is Tom Hardy gay!
He is engaged to the actress he was in the Martina Cole tv drama with....smile

bettybat Sat 30-Jun-12 10:20:01

He's definitely bi - he's said as much in interviews. I don't think he thinks of it in those terms though, just that he's attracted to who he's attracted too grin

bettybat Sat 30-Jun-12 10:20:42

To!

HalleLouja Sat 30-Jun-12 21:33:46

Tom Hardy - swoon. Tom Cruise - not swoon some. The whole Oprah thing wrecked it not that I was ever that keen.

sasamaxx Sat 30-Jun-12 21:55:56

Agree mummytime - soooo fancy Mike out of neighbours even in 'Priscilla'
Don't even think he is gay IRL

tribpot Sat 30-Jun-12 22:08:51

Guy Pearce (and I love that he is still called 'Mike from Neighbours', that's what I call him too) is not gay, although he does a good line in playing gay guys. As is mentioned upthread, however - this is more acceptable than gay actors playing straight ones (even though surely it's the same bloody thing).

There is a very cute lovely actor called Sean Maher who came out not long ago - I tweeted him to say basically: I had no idea, and don't care! In a good way. Hopefully the reaction of most of his fans. For men of a certain age and with very long, established careers (TC, George Clooney ALLEGEDLY) - isn't it time to come out once and for all? In the words of Dr Pepper, what's the worst that could happen? If the serious power brokers of Hollywood can't break the glass ceiling (unless there's another term for this kind of prejudice), who can?

MrsAyrtonSenna Sun 01-Jul-12 11:33:57

I cant say I was at all suprised to find out about TC and KH splitting up - they are rarely photographed as a family anyway and most of the pictures at big events with any of his wives, past or present always have a 'staged & posed' look about them as they are designed to promote TC, the actor.

TC's best bit of acting was his jumping on the sofa on the Oprah show -I always thought that was because he was so relieved that his team had managed to find him another 'wife' to support the image! Definately believe the rumours about upcoming actresses who are 'hired' to play the role of wives to these guys in exchange for furthering their careers and having nice lifestyle, hence TC's reputation as a control freak.

I have long thought that TC was gay anyway and infertile as all his ex-wives have gone on to marry again and have children with their new partners. I suspect that the Scientology link in the Hollywood circles is a cosy club for those who are gay and it is just a 'cover'. Look at the rumours that are now emerging about John Travolta to name but one - would love to know what his wife has to say about it all.

In this day and age it is a shame that they feel the need to hide the truth, but I suppose as other MN'ers have posted, it is all about keeping a certain 'image' so that people will go and see the films that they make. As other people have commented, a lot of the actors/actresses are 'out' in the hollywood circles they mix in and it is an open secret. Feel sorry for SC though, that kid is going to have 'issues' as she gets older, so in many ways hope KH does get custody of her and she may stand a chance of a more 'normal' life.

Cloudbase Sun 01-Jul-12 12:20:12

I think it's incredibly sad that it's so, but yes, Hollywood does shy away from actors being honest about their sexuality.

There was a section in the biography of Brangelina that came out a couple years ago that said that among A list stars, there were only a handful that were genuinely straight. The only really famous ones I can remember were Bruce Willis, Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt but there were about ten on the list.

Personally it doesn't make any difference to me - As a kid I was brought up watching Doris Day movies & I desperately wanted to marry Rock Hudson. Finding out he was gay didn't make any difference to my fancying him. Or Rupert Everett, John Barrowman, or Lovely Mark Gatiss...

Celebrity crushes are so utterly far from reality that I don't see how it makes any difference. I just think it's so sad that in 2012 people for whatever reason, feel the need to hide who they are and deny their own reality because of fear of public reprisal, or damage to their career. It's no way to live, or to ask other people to live (in Tom's case). I guess it's just part of Hollywood corruption though; money before principles, honesty or happiness.

Sigh...sad

bettybat Sun 01-Jul-12 13:10:17

Maybe though we all just think it's because of the Hollywood machine and roles - when really it's just because they don't feel the need to come out publicly?

Though that has no water when you have orchestrations of straight marriages and children.

I am hmm-ing at myself for this post.

boredandrestless Tue 03-Jul-12 11:20:35

Anyone else really worried for her that she will lose her custody battle??

His older 2 dcs stayed with him rather than NK didn't they.

Cheriefroufrou Tue 03-Jul-12 11:48:20

I feel sorry for her as an individual, but not sure that makes her the most stable home. Lots of reports of her taking her daughter out till all hours of the evening and treating her like her best/only friend rather than her daugher. IMO its very hard for a child to be in a relationship like that with a parent, and its GROSS to watch (I've seen it on holiday, the only 5* holiday I ever went on had women taking their children out in the evenings as their dates/plus ones)

course that's just an angle in the press, it might have been once, it might be regular, but if its a regular dynamic then its not necesssarily the best place for the child is it? A more stable father/daughter/other siblings home might be better??

dunno! in terms of the relationship TC is the baddie and KH is the one deserving of sympathy but I don't think that ALWAYS translates to her being the best one for majority custody???

Cheriefroufrou Tue 03-Jul-12 11:49:58

(I also say that as someone whose mother had blurry boundaries and sometimes expected me to be an equal like a friend/sibling rather than her being the parent and me being the child, I was way way happier and more secure at my dads house, he was always the parent! )

boredandrestless Tue 03-Jul-12 12:10:16

Isn't all the treating the child as an adult, child choosing her clothes, food, bedtime, etc a Scientology thing. Something he has led rather than her?

Cheriefroufrou Thu 05-Jul-12 18:35:08

I have no idea, was just trying to say that the "victim" in a relationship breakdown isn't automatically the best parent, and the "villan" in terms of the relatinship break isn't necessarily the worst of the two in terms of getting custody of the children and giving them a stable home

I feel very sorry for her in terms of the relationship, he seems like a HORRIBLE husband, but I wont speculate about which one would give the happiest most stable home to the child based on that

perceptionreality Thu 05-Jul-12 19:12:04

Cheriefrou - but although that was your experience (and I can appreciate you felt that way) there are some children who might be happy having a less conventinal relationship with their parents.

You can't possibly judge someone's parenting based upon pictures from the Daily Mail for example. And even if the child is out quite late at night, so what? I think KH takes her for ice cream? Not that unusual..........I'd be more concerned about a parent who wanted to raise a child according to scientology tbh. As I said on another thread my dp was a scientologist and attributes it to his recovery from drug addicition but it still sounds very scary to me, particularly the locked in organisations in the US.

Cheriefroufrou Thu 05-Jul-12 19:26:32

"You can't possibly judge someone's parenting based upon pictures from the Daily Mail for exampl"

I'm actually saying that we shouldn't judge EITHER of their parenting based on our opinions of their marriage

he is obviously the media baddie in the break up, that doesn't mean that she would necessarily be the best parent custody wise, we don't know which one would!

Cheriefroufrou Thu 05-Jul-12 19:27:02

and if she does end up mostly with KH, she will be mostly away from her siblings, which I think is a consideration

perceptionreality Thu 05-Jul-12 19:43:08

Yes but we do know he's heavily into scientology and she's not. I think that's the crux of the issue.

amandine07 Mon 16-Jul-12 11:12:36

I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did...I remember when they first got it together, there was talk of KH signing up to some sort of 'contract' for the marriage (pre-nup anyone...?).

I remember, back in 2005 KH had been engaged to that actor from American Pie for ages, can't remember his name...suddenly she pops up with TC, engaged 5 mins later, KH with a gormless look on her face saying how utterly "Ah-mazing" everything was...seemed more like she'd had a lobotomy.

I still remember Dawson's Creek very well, the actors were all around my age, playing characters much younger. All those ernest speeches they used to give to each other LOL.

KH was gorgeous as Joey, although in RL came over as quite insipid and a bit too child-like. I remember thinking Michelle Williams came across as much more savvy and grown-up beyond her years.

Apologies, gone OT on a DC nostalgic trip!

itsjustmeanon Wed 25-Jul-12 17:34:46

I've got nothing to add to this thread, but loved reading it. I so think TC and GC are gay.

Boggler Wed 25-Jul-12 17:37:01

Ok itsjustmeanon who's GC? I can't think of anyone..

itsjustmeanon Wed 25-Jul-12 17:44:22

George Clooney.

Boggler Wed 25-Jul-12 17:45:42

Oh no not George! He can't be - but hey what do I know :-)

nellypackedhertrunk Sat 28-Jul-12 23:30:06

I heard some juicy gossip today (totally unsubstantiated tho) that TC has been at Pinewood studios this week and auditioned a British actress to be his wife - she thought it was a film role but turned out to be the role of his wife in real life.

Not sure if TC is even in England at the moment and I can't believe this could happen again but just putting my twopennyworth in.

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