Mnhq. Any fucker ha been regularly helping several posters who are quite frankly going through hell right now...

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Thewalkingdeadkr Wed 23-Oct-13 22:45:07

Many of then with little support in real lives.
I feel it's immoral to leave those people without the support which has been so crucial up until her apparent banning.
As a caring professional I feel concerned for the sudden withdrawal of support for these people.
Can others please also remember this and kee the support up on these threads until mn come to their senses.
Cheers.

CatherineMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 23-Oct-13 22:46:19

Thewalkingdeadkr thanks for posting - you may be interested to read our response on this thread.

Thewalkingdeadkr Wed 23-Oct-13 22:51:18

Cheers Catherine ill look.
I was generally concerned.

fusspot66 Wed 23-Oct-13 23:16:02

Please lift the ban on any fucker. She is so wise....

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Thewalkingdeadkr Wed 23-Oct-13 23:31:38

It's good manners to know when to keep your opinions to yourself too.

We'll see if MN bans me then shall we?

ChangingWoman Wed 23-Oct-13 23:42:02

I'm not that interested in the views of people with good manners when I have a problem. I like to hear from people with good judgment, personal experience and a healthy dose of compassion.

Manners don't help much with abuse,addiction, family breakdown and general psychological turmoil.

ChangingWoman Wed 23-Oct-13 23:42:19

PS Bring back AnyFucker!

'Manners don't help much with abuse,addiction, family breakdown and general psychological turmoil.'

I'm a regular on the SN board and we deal with all of that plus more and I can tell you that the most helpful and conducive threads are those where people keep their manners in check despite the harsh straight talking. The manners enable debate rather than one evangelical set of orders.

And however much someone might help with turmoil on certain boards, what on earth is the point if they cause it on others?

Thewalkingdeadkr Wed 23-Oct-13 23:53:08

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ZingAnyFucker Wed 23-Oct-13 23:56:47

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I doubt it is just a one week suspension of some of her behaviours.

Thewalkingdeadkr Thu 24-Oct-13 00:02:57

It's less actually.
If you are from the sn boards why does she bother you so much? She's one if the best advocates for fairness and equality on this forum.
Are you a man?

I'm not from the SN Boards.

But perhaps she could visit and see how to be the best advocate for fairness and equality without being so darn rude.

trish5000 Thu 24-Oct-13 00:12:27

op, Has she been helping posters on mumsnet, or off mumsnet?
Perhaps you could link to some threads so that others can be signposted there to help out?

DioneTheDiabolist Thu 24-Oct-13 00:17:30

This is getting fucking ridiculous now.hmm

Hahaveryfunny Thu 24-Oct-13 00:22:40

Remarkable. So in defence of one poster being allowed to continue expressing their opinions, another is told that she should 'know when to keep your opinions to yourself'!

differentnameforthis Thu 24-Oct-13 05:38:16

You know what, AF wasn't the only person on here who helped people.

The over the top amount of threads asking for her to be reinstated is crazy! Putting her on some kind of internet pedestal!

If you can't cope without a poster's words on the screen, you need more than mumsnet, to be fair!

As a caring professional I feel concerned for the sudden withdrawal of support for these people. You help them, then. Seriously, there are 1000s of posters here & you are doing so many of them a disservice if you think one voice is better that the collective wisdom that is here.

differentnameforthis Thu 24-Oct-13 05:39:24

Remarkable. So in defence of one poster being allowed to continue expressing their opinions, another is told that she should 'know when to keep your opinions to yourself'!

And told to fuck off.

Pleasant, hey! If not a tad hypercritical!

mathanxiety Thu 24-Oct-13 06:13:42

CatherineMN, MNHQ's response on the other thread wasn't all that helpful.

Some of the content was so ill-judged ('rooles' hmm) that I suspect a little tone deafness prevails.

I think it is pretty clear from this thread that there have been certain knives out for AF.

I do not think you look at everything in context as you claim.

I also think MN needs to wake up and do a little research around MRA sites to see the high fives being exchanged right now.

I am someone who has had good advice from anyfucker and am sorry to see her banned, glad she will be back soon, but on the same threads I also had help from many other posters. She isn't MNs one and only source of support and that's quite insulting to the many, many posters who are also spending their time on here supporting those of us who need it.

ScreamingNaanAndGoryOn Thu 24-Oct-13 06:48:26

There's been knives out for a lot of well known posters in the last few weeks.

Anyway, the "you help them then" argument is a little flat. AF does a heck of a lot of off board support and puts a lot of effort into helping people. That's why there's so many threads about this now. If she was just a loud mouthed bully, no one would give a shit.

I've had help from the SN boards. Lots of hand holding and "I know what you mean" and I've been damned grateful for it. But when my DH was being an utter cunt, and I changed nn for help. The best practical support I got was from AF.

I'm looking forward to seeing you on the relationship board, starlight. Doing your bit to backfill the gap.

Sparklingbrook Thu 24-Oct-13 07:06:34

I can't believe how many threads there are about this. I have the Relationships topic hidden so I am a bit lost TBH.

Thewalkingdeadkr Thu 24-Oct-13 07:28:51

"Why don't you help her then"
Yes it's that simple isnt it? hmm
The haters are certainly out in force aren't they?

Thewalkingdeadkr Thu 24-Oct-13 07:34:09

sparkling
Ther are a stupid amount if threads but I think that's its shoes what a remarkable woman she is.
That's why my thread was not a "we love AF" chanting g one and more reminder not to abandon a few particular posters in crisis.
It seems though that any mention of the woman brings the haters running.
I think she scared a lot of people with her refusal to see men as little helpless beings with no control over their actions.

differentnameforthis Thu 24-Oct-13 07:57:53

I'm not a hater, Thewalkingdeadkr, but neither am I in awe of her, like some seem to be. They are words on a screen, and we are all capable of putting words on screen.

But while those (like yourself) are busy shouting down the people who feel indifferent to her banning, there are people looking for advice. And if that advice is good, who cares where it comes from!

This happened when COD left/was banned/whatever and it was all OTT them too. MN survived without her, because it evolves.

MN isn't one voice, it is many. Where one leaves/get banned, others will pick up the slack.

The internet won't stop because of this....

differentnameforthis Thu 24-Oct-13 08:00:24

more reminder not to abandon a few particular posters in crisis

Your thread was a nod to MNHQ that they have done something "bad" in banning AF, not a reminder at all. Or that is how it reads, anyway!

I don't see men as little helpless beings with no control over their actions at all & she doesn't scare me. Again, words on a screen & they can't hurt!

PervCat Thu 24-Oct-13 08:00:50

It's a WEEK! That's all

differentnameforthis Thu 24-Oct-13 08:03:01

It's all very dramatic isn't it, PervCat

ScreamingNaanAndGoryOn Thu 24-Oct-13 08:04:40

differentname - slightly different there. No one has struggled from being less judged about their choice of boots for the school run.

Thewalkingdeadkr Thu 24-Oct-13 08:09:39

dnft I can't disagree with you and I also know there has been a total over reaction, however, she was very knowledgable and articulate when a poster was in abusive circumstances and did help many.
For that reason she would be a loss to the forum.
Her frequency of posts and her strong opinions were at gret to many and she was goaded regularly which has been illustrated nicely by all the back slapping on the numerous threads.
This is being looked into by hq now but before it did seem as if it was imbalanced.
I "shouted down" the haters as it was irrelevant to my thread which was really just a question to hq.

Thewalkingdeadkr Thu 24-Oct-13 08:15:35

I'm glad you don't see men like that dnft
But many do and AF was good at making people see that for example if your dh shagged someone else that he did so through choice not through some uncontrollable desire that men have.
Anyway she's back soon so in not sure theses discussions need to keep going.
Other threads are coming through again.

trish5000 Thu 24-Oct-13 08:16:52

mathanxiety. Justines robust reply is on the fuckergate thread. Seems there have been numerous rulebreaks by AF over the years, and AF has now apologised. Doesnt seem like it had anything to do with MRAs.

Sparklingbrook Thu 24-Oct-13 10:23:34

Well is has all passed me by, so I guess i haven't been on the right topics/threads.
Looks like MN have made a decision and in a few days AF will be back?

differentnameforthis Thu 24-Oct-13 11:40:14

But many do and AF was good at making people see that for example if your dh shagged someone else that he did so through choice not through some uncontrollable desire that men have

As do many many other posters. AF is not the only poster on here who helps & offers support & I am getting pretty fed up with the implication that she is.

mathanxiety Thu 24-Oct-13 14:53:09

MRA types have been targeting AF for years. Believe it or not, targeting of certain MN posters and certain MN threads is done in an organised way.

mathanxiety Thu 24-Oct-13 14:54:07

So if you are counting 'numerous rulebreaks' over the years you have to take this into account.

bigbuttons Thu 24-Oct-13 14:56:16

This is all becoming stupidly hysterical.

DioneTheDiabolist Thu 24-Oct-13 16:02:15

Thewalkingdead, where are the backslapping threads? Can you provide a link (or even the thread title)? Thanks.

ilovesooty Thu 24-Oct-13 23:47:50

I think if someone is so vulnerable and distressed that the absence of an internet stranger for a few days is likely to tip them over the edge they should have been strongly advised to seek professional help in real life. It seems to me highly irresponsible not to do so.

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 25-Oct-13 11:39:58

Hello

We're locking most of the many and various AF threads now. Do come over to the thread in Site Stuff if you want to.

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