What was 'the episode'??!

(48 Posts)
LadyRabbit Mon 07-Oct-13 15:27:45

Reading another thread on here about the feminism boards and people keep mentioning 'an episode' or 'issue' that changed the board (apparently a lot). I used to read those boards a lot when I had more time.

I'm a bit confused and curious as to what happened.
Can someone please explain? I can't figure it out on the actual thread and it is Monday and my brain is going very slowly indeed.

Thanking you.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Mon 07-Oct-13 15:32:48

Oh, it all got a bit nasty... There were complaints from some feminists that some posters were insufficiently feminist, then there were complaints from the insufficiently-feminist that they were being pounced upon, bullied etc. Turned out the first lot had a secret online meetingplace where they could shout out when the insufficiently-feminist posted. People snarled and flounced, there were bannings. End of story.

kim147 Mon 07-Oct-13 15:34:33

That explains a few threads. When posters who were very quiet suddenly appeared.

Like a tag team

Pinupgirl Mon 07-Oct-13 15:35:52

Feminist thread and doghouse give mn a bad name imo-pack mentality at its worst.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Mon 07-Oct-13 15:37:57

Tbf, Pinupgirl, the F/WR board is much improved since the dust settled.

LadyRabbit Mon 07-Oct-13 15:40:06

Blimey, OldLady I'm glad I missed out on that. Secret groups?! Lord! The old days were so nice, reasoned debate, loads of great reading suggestions and Dittany always had a great take on things. It was like being back at uni except I could wear my pyjamas and eat hobnobs while chatting about Judith Butler.

Oh well. I must have sensed it all got a bit heated because when I last went on the board it felt a bit different.

Thanks for the explanation.

Pinupgirl Mon 07-Oct-13 15:40:29

I don't venture on there much oldlady so perhaps you are right-I think my views on how women present themselves would make them combustgrin

The doghouse is still exactly the same though-full of posters who think their doggies are their babieshmm

Just don't ask about moldies wink

Now that was insane. Made the dog house spats look genteel.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Mon 07-Oct-13 15:46:15

Yeah, I saw some of the moldies thing too, wasn't that kind of similar? A secret place for the invited only, people finding out they weren't invited, ouch all round.

LadyRabbit Mon 07-Oct-13 15:48:54

Oh God Laurie now I have to ask, what are moldies?
And what does the doghouse have to do with this all?

Why does all the exciting stuff happen when I'm doing something else? (Changing nappies, laundry, cooking, work etc.)

OldLadyKnowsNothing Mon 07-Oct-13 15:53:52

Ah, now the doghouse ones were when people came on to ask about buying puppies from backyard breeders or puppyfarms, to be told quite clearly why that was a bad idea when so many healthy dogs are pts every year or languish in various pounds and rescues. People were very passionate about it.

Yes moldies was similar in tone but involved hundreds of people, it took over the board for about 6 months - it was incredibly dramatic

Pinupgirl Mon 07-Oct-13 16:04:56

Never heard of mouldies but the doghouse thing was bullying-end of. One poster thought she was the oracle of all things doggy related and anyone who dared to disagree got ripped to shreds-excuse the pun.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

fluffyraggies Mon 07-Oct-13 16:31:30

Thank goodess someone's asked about the WR 'episode'! I wanted to know what it was as well grin but thought after being on MN for 4 years i really aught to know ....

Now - mouldies you say? What on dog house or WR?

And what happened please?

<sits and waits>

SnakeyMcBadass Mon 07-Oct-13 16:36:40

The F/WR stuff was horrible, actually. It did huge damage to the board.

And I'm a DH regular. I have never bullied or ganged up on anyone, nor been bullied or ganged up upon. People are passionate, but on the whole civil. My dogs are a bit like my babies, though <stuffs small dog into high chair>

peachactiviaminge Mon 07-Oct-13 16:45:52

Can we not please? It's hardly fair on those not here to defend themselves and it always winds up like a game of Chinese whispers - the truth is far more boring than the legend.

I quite miss that Vallhalla bird grin

<bit late>

lilola Mon 07-Oct-13 17:51:41

What are/ were the moldies?! I've seen it mentioned before! quietly wonders what the infamous mitmoo did and what the Teddy In A Sling episode was about

LtEveDallas Mon 07-Oct-13 17:53:05

Who was bullied in the DogHouse pinupgirl? You can't really make a statement like that without qualification.

TooTabooToBOOOOO Mon 07-Oct-13 18:07:25

Never seen anybody bullied in the Dog House. I have seen clueless would-be puppy farm customers and clueless first time dog owners, told in no uncertain terms the dangers and/or downright stupidity of the situation they are either about to walk into or are already part of. A fair few veterinary workers and dog rescue people frequent the DH, they've helped a lot of people and stopped a lot of others ending up with a pup with horrific injuries and diseases, courtesy of the scum who breed for money.

No bullying though.

EdithWeston Mon 07-Oct-13 18:09:46

There was a Doghouse poster banned. It wasn't bullying. It was frequent rudeness, persisting even after warning.

LtEveDallas Mon 07-Oct-13 18:59:54

See I find that quite sad and it's annoying that MNHQ don't take all the helpful, informative, compassionate and caring posts into account. Because I'd bet my last quid they would outnumber the posts that got people's backs up.

Personally I think she was targeted into losing her rag by the GFs - and that was certainly borne out when she came back under a nc and was here months before she was grassed up - and in that time had NO complaints. Strange, huh?

Nest0fVapors Mon 07-Oct-13 19:00:03

Mouldies was a splinter group who only invited the elite. Some people who thought they should have been invited were not and they got very very cross, crying and all sorts! Went on right over Christmas 2008, was fab!

HoneyDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 19:21:44

Ooooh is this the really secret magic thread which can slag off other areas of Mnet because the groups it being referred to it can't see it?

In that case

MNHQ are a bunch of gin soaked old harridans with a love of big red buttons.

LadyRabbit Mon 07-Oct-13 19:22:48

I understand why a re-hash is not a great idea, let sleeping dogs lie and all that. I was just genuinely flummoxed because I couldn't think what the thread was that had something happen. (Stuff is always "happening" on threads...)

However. What truly astonishes me is that grown adults might cry about a debate they are involved in online.

At some point, surely common sense reminds one that this is not real life. It is debate, in the ether, about some serious things but there must come a point where you step back and know to leave alone, right? I never understand why people get so low down and personal in posts to people they don't actually know IRL. The negative side of the freedom anonymous online debate brings, I suppose.

peachactiviaminge Mon 07-Oct-13 19:31:30

For some people MN is a lifeline and they count certain people as friends, it hurts when friends betray you no matter where it happens so let's not add to that hurt by bringing it up again and making them relive it or by letting people air their grievances in the supposed effort of educating people it didn't affect.

BlingBang Mon 07-Oct-13 19:41:24

I always wondered how some of the more vocal feminist posters would suddenly appear on a thread to help out one of their mates and take it over. It would always end with them all congratulating each other that they had won the argument (everyone else had enough and had buggered off). Always wondered if they had a way of rallying the troops.

SnakeyMcBadass Mon 07-Oct-13 19:52:37

I literally never saw that, Bling. I've seen MRA's seen off with their tails between their legs, though. Some of the posters that left were very knowledgeable and gave interesting new perspectives. I didn't always agree with them, but it was certainly educational.

scaevola Mon 07-Oct-13 19:57:12

I never knew about the secret rallying point used by FWR regulars to marshall attacks. If true, that's utterly despicable.

Good riddance to all who do that.

BlingBang Mon 07-Oct-13 20:00:41

Suppose that depends what you consider MRA's to be? I've seen accusations of posters being called MRA's for all kinds of comments or opinions.

scaevola Mon 07-Oct-13 20:04:48

There have definitely been long standing (presumably female) MNetters who were rounded on. Not just goady people with new usernames and no posting history. But I haven't seen that for a while.

Were there really bannings? I thought it was a series of flounces. (Though perhaps we don't need to know).

BlingBang Mon 07-Oct-13 20:06:52

So what are GF's? All so cryptic.

HoneyDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 20:07:52

It's not cryptic, it is an acronym for Goady Fucker.

Honey, its in code, cant you tell, you're just super clever and have cracked it grin

HoneyDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 20:09:29

Get me. I'm a biological Enigma machine.

I reckon we need to update the acronyms list anyways.

GF - Goady Fucker
IPOAT - insane people etc
ODFOD - oh do fuck off, dear

There are quite a few more that I forget right now that I think should be on there.

LtEveDallas Mon 07-Oct-13 20:16:58

grin Quick, get her to Bletchley

HoneyDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 20:21:32

It's not exactly far for me is it grin

Ooooh. Maybe I was an experiment from there? That's why I'm still here so they can monitor me.

It certainly explains why my mum and dad often look perplexed around me and mutter "where the fuck did we get you from?"

I always knew I was destined for greatness...

Sparklysilversequins Mon 07-Oct-13 20:24:58

Presumably those that stamped their feet over "Moldies" would have been fine if THEIR invite hadn't got lost in the post?

Valhalla was a caring and fab poster who was provoked beyond endurance by the unrivalled twatishness of one particular poster who had been pissing us all off all over MN not just The Dog House. Only this time her immature and selfish behaviour was probably going to cost one or more animals their lives.

LadyRabbit Mon 07-Oct-13 21:22:19

Um, what's an MRA? It's not a disease is it?

HoneyDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 21:25:28

Mens Rights Activist

I'm fire with the decoding tonight grin

meditrina Mon 07-Oct-13 21:25:30

No, you're thinking of MRSA

MRA= Men's Rights Actvists.

(Apparently I'm one... hmm )

OldLadyKnowsNothing Mon 07-Oct-13 21:25:43

Men's Rights Activists.

LadyRabbit Mon 07-Oct-13 21:28:37

I have learnt so much this evening. Now I must clear up dog vomit and retire for the night. Thanks for illuminating me further and I hope I didn't offend anybody by bringing up old threads that I wasn't aware of.

Honeydragon I could use you over on my Acronyms thread in Site Stuff!! grin

(Sorry I can't link, I'm on my phone)

DameDeepRedBetty Tue 08-Oct-13 00:34:46

See, the trouble with acronyms like MRA is that someone like me, who's seen the damage that can be done by one bloody minded ex-partner to a very dear relative, can very easily been turned online into some sort of 'apologist for bastard blokes who left some poor woman literally holding the baby'. I've seen my adopted brother bend over backward to offer support to my ex SIL and their child, and been kicked in the balls at regular intervals, because she's extremely cross about SOMETHING but she won't say what. I've been hanging out on here for long enough to know that sometimes - in fact most of the time - it's more complicated than face evidence, but if she'd only, PLEASE, start the ball rolling, she and dbro could maybe sort something out? Meanwhile poor niece is the innocent victim!

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