Why are we allowed to namechange? And it has just been made easier to do so within the thread

(111 Posts)
LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 10:22:48

Just out of interest really.

You can't do it on other sites can you?

I know people like to change for privacy reasons but it just cause misery with people name changing to cause shit.

And the new button down there V makes it possible for someone to really easily sock puppet. I don't see the point in it really.

You have not allowed name changing in the mumsnet local site, however you do still permit users to namechange on request. I wondered if there were plans to introduce that here or if it would cause outrage (who am I kidding, if course it will). grin

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 10:45:19

I have just been on a thread and name changed 3 times. It was a piece of piss.

Tee2072 Thu 26-Sep-13 10:46:52

For the record, you can only name change on the fly on the mobile site.

But I agree with you.

GirlWithTheLionHeart Thu 26-Sep-13 10:49:51

I agree

KissMyA Thu 26-Sep-13 10:50:30

I agree too

GirlWithTheLionHeart Thu 26-Sep-13 10:50:48

grin

ShowOfHands Thu 26-Sep-13 10:52:30

Oh I love the fact that you can namechange. I namechange all the time. Sometimes for privacy reasons, sometimes because I fancy it, sometimes to be funny, sometimes because I'm bored. I have NC'd hundreds of times.

If people want to post shit and cause trouble, they'll find a way regardless. I don't think they should make namechanging impossible or difficult just because Trolly McTroll has an easier time of it. Why cater to their warped behaviours? I truly think after years of MNing that whatever you do, they find a way and all you can do is not give more of yourself than you can afford to lose and to try and remember that you don't know who anybody actually is. I mean, you might not be called Clothilde at all in real life OP but I choose to believe you are as it Makes Sense.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 11:05:12

Haha at footholds.

I didn't know you couldn't do that on the desktop site. I never use that any more as the mobile site is so much better and cleaner.

I think the fact that MNHQ have decided not to allow people to namechange means they may possibly regret allowing it on this site. I reckon it causes all sorts of shit.

I know troublemaking tossers will find a way to be twattish no matter what, but to namechange before was a royal pain in the arse. So if you wanted to sockpuppet to either support yourself or to gang up on a poster you had to be pretty dedicated. Now you don't even have to think about it.

I think so many people posted that they felt hounded and attacked on Mumsnet (thread yesterday about bullying) I think a restriction on namechanging would be a good idea, tbh. Or at least limit to the names you have already got or something.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 11:05:47

Footholds is supposed to say Clothilde. grin

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 11:08:04

Not allowed people to change on the mumsnet local site, to make that clear.

ShowOfHands Thu 26-Sep-13 11:20:47

It's not that hard to namechange though. I can still only do it the old way as I don't MN on any kind of new-fangled whatsit. You click on My Mumsnet, change your name, enter password and ta-da, takes all of 30 seconds.

Namechanging is a part of tradition here. Hi-jinks on threads, seasonal namechanges, larks and giggles. I'd be royally pee'd off if they restricted namechanging. It's like punishing the whole class because Trolly StBridge has deliberately shat in the reading corner again.

TrollyStBridge Thu 26-Sep-13 11:22:23

Bwahahahaha. See.

I even had time to go and get a glass of water before namechanging.

ShowOfHands Thu 26-Sep-13 11:23:51

Is it wrong that I want another baby, just so I can call it Clothilde?

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 11:27:49

You would have to put up with numbskulls pronouncing it wrong and it will enrage you.

I have had YEARS of people calling my daughter Sophie when she is actually called Sophia. <bitter>

I posted about wanting to have another baby just because they give you morphine in labour now, and the last time I didn't have time for pethidine so I fancied giving that a go as well.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 11:29:25

Yes, the namechanging japes are funny and you're right that it is part of mumsnet.

MNHQ would never change it would they. They would cower at the onslaught of the combined rage. Christ I remember when they changed the site and made active convos stripy. Threads and threads of I DONT LIIIIIIIIIKE IT for days.

DaleyBump Thu 26-Sep-13 11:30:15

I've namechanged previously for various reasons. The main reason I namechanged is because I was really, really struggling with a lot of things and I know people on here in rl so wanted to keep it private but ask for advice at the same time. If I hadn't been able to namechange, I wouldn't have asked for advice for fear of being recognised and would probably still be struggling. It's a fantastic feature and you can most of the time spot the trolls anyway.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 11:30:28

You can use the mobile site on a PC, I always do. Go down to the bottom and click the mobile button and have a look (you can always change it back).

ShowOfHands Thu 26-Sep-13 11:54:30

Nooooo. I don't like the mobile site. I accidentally saw it once. I don't like change.

FIL has some morphine. I'll send you some if you want. He keeps it hidden in a drawer. I warn you though, I was given morphine during labour and it did two things. My bp went through the floor and I started having hallucinations and passing out until they gave me something to fix it. Also, the morphine itch. Oh dear God. Imagine the worst itch you've ever had. Now imagine it's under your skin all over, particularly in your face, somewhere behind your nose and it's burning and burning and you can't get to it and you need to tear off your nose.

Nah, morphine's crap.

When I had ds, the postnatal stay was lovely. Staff were all great, felt really cared for and special, everything was clean and I didn't have to do it. They brought chocolate and biscuits round for no reason and I was craving custard so they found some and made me a huge bowl several times. I don't want another baby really though and I don't want to be ill so not sure a hospital stay is on the cards. I'd pay to stay on that postnatal ward again though. I'll have a baby for you if you want. I'll hide the morphine in my bag for later too if you want? Just one baby mind. I like you but I have my limits.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 12:02:28

I have had morphine before for a burst ovarian cyst. It was marvellous. I had the itch, big welts on my skin, hideous sickness and the Bp drop but I loved it!

My post natal stay still makes me shudder nearly 18 years later.

That is so sweet that your nurses made you custard, bless them.

Yes, steal the morphine and send it to me grin

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 14:48:43

Hello

At the moment, there are no plans to disallow namechanging on the main board; it's something we've always allowed users to do (so long as they aren't doing it to mislead), and we think it's one of the things that sets us a little bit apart from other sites. So far, we think the measure of privacy and security (and harmless mucking about) it can provide outweighs the drawbacks - although, of course, nothing posted on a public website is ever truly private or secure. As ever though, we're more than happy to listen to feedback if you think we're getting it wrong.

Without giving too much away, it's usually very easy for us to spot when someone is namechanging to mislead on a thread - so please hit 'report' if you want us to check something out.

The reasons for not allowing namechanging on Local sites are a bit specific - we outline them in more detail here.

And the reasons we're allowing mobile site users to namechange a little more easily are outlined here.

We do realise this looks a bit contradictory on the surface but we like to think that's part of our charm <hopeful face>

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 16:15:23

Thanks Rowan for taking the time to answer.

It was only idle musing really. I know there would be hell to pay if you said you were disallowing namechamges.

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 16:24:01

So, Rowan comes on here, gives a nice little discourse on the reasons for name-changing and ignores the blatant drug dealing on the thread!!

I am discusted grin

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 16:28:04

Tbh a rather long time elapsed between me starting to write this post and me finishing it, and in the interval you'd all started talking about illegal substances.

Which is a learning point of some sort for me

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 16:29:44

Nah, them's legal drugs.

<offers round Valiums>

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 16:30:00

Well, they're legal substances, actually, but one should have a prescription from a properly-trained healthcare professional before taking them. <cat's-bum-mouth>

<work-avoiding pedant>

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 16:33:25

If I was better at telling the difference between illegal and legal I wouldn't be wearing this tag

SaltySeaBird Thu 26-Sep-13 16:35:33

I name change a fair bit as sometimes I want advice on something or want to discuss a specific incident that would make it easy for anyone who knows me in real life to recognise me.

I'd rather keep aspects of my general chit chat and online activity private, especially when discussing things like trying to conceive and fertility. Name changing makes it possible.

Tee2072 Thu 26-Sep-13 16:38:58

grin

MrsDeVere Thu 26-Sep-13 16:43:37

I will swop some valium for the morphine

Shall we set up a special board, like the local Sale or Swap ones on FB? <hopeful>

NotAQueef Thu 26-Sep-13 16:48:00

Hmm Can't get the mobile name changey thing to work for me. It keeps telling me in angry red letters that I do not own the username
"ChaaangeMaNaaaame" or any other variant I've tried.

TeamEdward Thu 26-Sep-13 16:51:58

Thanks RoawnMumsnet.
My keyboard is now covered in coffee.

OP, are you new?

TeamEdward Thu 26-Sep-13 16:54:30

Are there any plans for a name amnesty? You know, like a gun amnesty but with nicknames.
I have LOADS of nicknames stored on my My Mumsnet profile, and don't want or need most of them now. Could we give some of them up?

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 16:56:35

Ah NotAQueef - you need to use names that are already assigned to you; you can't use the drop-down box on mobile to assign yourself an entirely new name.

mrsharrystyles Thu 26-Sep-13 16:57:35

I'm on the mobile app and I can't see where you name change. Am I being thick?

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 16:59:01

TeamEdward

Are there any plans for a name amnesty? You know, like a gun amnesty but with nicknames.
I have LOADS of nicknames stored on my My Mumsnet profile, and don't want or need most of them now. Could we give some of them up?

No

Really sorry

OliviaMumsnet still hasn't recovered from the last one.

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 17:00:09

mrsharrystyles

I'm on the mobile app and I can't see where you name change. Am I being thick?

Sorry mrsharrystyles - we're talking about the mobile site, not the app

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 17:01:50

You do know, don't you Rowan, that No is a complete sentence? You don't have to give reasons because people will just try to talk you round them.

Tee2072 Thu 26-Sep-13 17:02:25

The mention of a name amnesty sends Olivia into a ball on the floor and we don't like to talk about how Tech reacts...

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 17:07:28

Poledra

You do know, don't you Rowan, that No is a complete sentence? You don't have to give reasons because people will just try to talk you round them.

grin

BIWI Thu 26-Sep-13 17:08:13

What is the difference between the mobile site and the mobile app? <thick>

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 17:08:18

Haha at the name change amnesty.

I bet you 50 pence that at some point during that debacle someone at MNHQ shouted 'who the FUCK thought this shambles was a good idea?'

No cha0s I am 0ld.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 17:08:51

The mobile site is fabulous.

The mobile app is incomprehensible.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 17:11:29

Can you change your nickname to a brand spanking new one with the mobile app button?

I am just going to try.

Nope it didn't work it said this You do not own the username: CuntyCuntastico123

TeamEdward Thu 26-Sep-13 17:13:10

I knew there had been an amnesty before but I was fairly new then and didn't have any names to give up.
Sorry if the suggestion has given anyone palpatations! grin

CuntyCuntastico123 Thu 26-Sep-13 17:13:31

I just went and changed it the old fashioned way.

What were people moaning about? It's easy.

hullygully Thu 26-Sep-13 17:16:18

I have only just discovered n/c ing

It brings peculiar joys

BIWI Thu 26-Sep-13 17:16:23

But when would you use the mobile site and when would you use the mobile app?

And why have both? confused

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 17:16:47

The mobile site is the version you'll use when you're using a browser on your phone

The app is actually an entirely separate program that you download from the iTunes or Android stores

<ignores GavrOrf>

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Sep-13 17:17:33

BIWI

But when would you use the mobile site and when would you use the mobile app?

And why have both? confused

Because we like to annoy all of the people, all of the time

BIWI Thu 26-Sep-13 17:18:53

grin

reelingintheyears Thu 26-Sep-13 17:23:52

How old are you Gav?

Pascha Thu 26-Sep-13 17:33:12

The app has its uses, for long threads it was much easier to get to the end. But that was on my dinosaur-era iphone and it was the first generation of app. Didn't have a high enough ios to download the updated version. Now I have a spanky new Sony something I downloaded the app and promptly deleted again because its crapola. I will stick with the mobile site which is much clearer.

I never namechange. I can't be arsed anymore.

Because we like to annoy all of the people, all of the time

grin

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 17:34:09

I am 7 in mumsnet years

CuntyCuntastico123 Thu 26-Sep-13 17:34:41

I love that Rowan.

l0l,Get.i saw the title and was ready to come in gunz blazin at a moamy newbie. It being you somewhat pissed on my chips.

L

L?

What doffus sign orf is that?

CuntyCuntastico123 Thu 26-Sep-13 18:04:18

Haha.

It's probably you being cool, and it means L8rz

EllOvvaCunt Thu 26-Sep-13 18:38:09

While we're asking for stuff that we're never going to get, could you make the Android app usable? Dh is fed up with cleaning up the blood and mushy bits of flesh after I've clawed my face off in frustration.

DaleyBump Thu 26-Sep-13 18:44:29

I must know what happened with the nn amnesty.

TeamEdward Thu 26-Sep-13 19:06:30

Daley I think clusterfuck of epic proportions is the only term fit to describe it. 'Tis a thing of MN legend.

Tee2072 Thu 26-Sep-13 20:09:30

Apparently a technical nightmare that had been never seen before or since.

Best to not talk about it. Out of kindness to Tech if nothing else.

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 21:03:52

I dearly love tech.

I remember when he posted something waspish using the strikeout function before it was actually a function available to mumsnetters.

And then there was a simultaneous roar from dozens of mumsnetters WE WANT IT and he enabled it after all the nagging.

I think he is a deeply wonderful person.

He is so witty as well.

<Crush>

LeGavrOrf Thu 26-Sep-13 21:08:14

I wish I was waspish.

In my head I am Nancy Mitford.

In reality I am probably more like Melinda Messenger.

It is a shame.

BIWI Thu 26-Sep-13 21:53:45

LeGav - in or out of your head - you are gorgeous!

BIWI Thu 26-Sep-13 21:54:11

Not that's gay or anything <backtracks>

CuntyCuntastico123 Thu 26-Sep-13 22:38:18

<leers>

CuntyCuntastico123 Thu 26-Sep-13 22:43:03

I like the idea of drugswaps.com

I have 3 tramadol, 7 Valium and 2 quietapine.

Will swap for oramorph.

Maryz Thu 26-Sep-13 22:47:25

I'll just stick my head into ds1's room.

Then I'll set up a pharmacy [bitter]

BIWI Thu 26-Sep-13 22:52:26

Goodness. Too much vinocollapso here, obviously. I read that as 'drugswasps'

I hate wasps.

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 22:56:38

Well, the drug wasps could sneak through customs a damn sight easier than mules BIWI. You'd need a swarm for one decent hit though, with the amount they could carry.

BelleOfTheBorstal Thu 26-Sep-13 22:57:01

I can bring back wholesale quantities of Tylenol pm back from the states, will swap for three hits of fentanyl?

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 22:57:22

I have shitloads of co-codamol - will swap for wine

BIWI Thu 26-Sep-13 22:57:42

Bloody hell, Poledra. You have really hit on something there. A way to make wasps actually useful!

CuntyCuntastico123 Thu 26-Sep-13 22:59:24

I don't see the point of cocodamol. You may as well just have 4 paracetamol and an espresso.

What are fentanyl and Tylenol?

Maryz Thu 26-Sep-13 23:00:54

What I really need to get my hands on in Feminax.

dd used to use it and it made a real difference to her, poor kid. But you can't get it for love nor money here any more.

BelleOfTheBorstal Thu 26-Sep-13 23:02:30

What strength co-codamol though?

CuntyCuntastico123 Thu 26-Sep-13 23:02:42

Oh Jesus Christ why am I still called cunty cuntastico. I namechanged back to Gavrorf.

That will fucking teach me.

Don't you look at me, Rowan.

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 23:02:43

I hate cocodamol. It makes me feel so spaced out and nauseous - I think I almost prefer the pain (hence having so much of it left over after a vicious tooth abscess). But it looks like its value is low - it could be cheap wine? <hopeful>

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 23:03:42

Ahh, I hear you MaryZ - I take loads of Feminax out to my sister on the Continent when we go to visit.

BelleOfTheBorstal Thu 26-Sep-13 23:03:56

Tylenol pm is paracatemol and diphendrydamine. Fentanyl is like morphine but better.

Maryz Thu 26-Sep-13 23:07:34

I love this discussion grin

Only on Mumsnet could we have a late night discussion on drug dealing swapping.

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 23:08:35

Oh Belle I don't know the strength, and they're locked away on the drugs box upstairs and one of the cats is lying on my feet, and it's the fluffy cat and my feet are so waaaarrrmmmm and...... <trails off>

Poledra Thu 26-Sep-13 23:10:02

Did ya know you can get fentanyl lollipops?

BelleOfTheBorstal Thu 26-Sep-13 23:11:55

Feminax was just branded co-cocodamol. Nothing special, 250mg paracetamol and 8 mg codeine.

BelleOfTheBorstal Thu 26-Sep-13 23:14:58

Yes I did. Would love.
Co-codamol only worth wine on prescription strengths!

Maryz Thu 26-Sep-13 23:16:39

Yes, Belle. I've just looked it up, though, and it isn't codeine any more. There are two types on the Boots website, Naproxen and ibuprofen lysine

Do they not sell the original one any more? Not that I can get any of them here, but codeine seems to be disappearing completely.

CatAmongThePigeons Thu 26-Sep-13 23:17:36

I have dyhydrocodiene and tramadol. Willimg to swap for anything that is much more fun useful.

BelleOfTheBorstal Thu 26-Sep-13 23:25:01

They withdrew the original type in 2010 but there is no reason why the boots own co-codamol wouldn't work in a similar manner.
As for stuff which is more fun useful, don't think I can help there.

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Thu 26-Sep-13 23:28:45

Maryz if they sell (in the UK) what your DD needs I'll happily send it to you.

Tee2072 Fri 27-Sep-13 06:50:43

Cunty co-codamol doesn't have caffeine, you're thinking if something else. Co-codamol is paracetamol and codeine.

FellatioNelson Fri 27-Sep-13 07:05:13

I have nothing to bring to the table but Senokot.

And maybe a sachet of Gavison.

I am a rubbish drug dealer. sad

wem Fri 27-Sep-13 07:56:54

Did someone say pethidine? I have pethidine. Been meaning to take it back to the pharmacy for about five years now...

BrightSunshineyDay Fri 27-Sep-13 08:05:41

Completely pointlesss contribution have no drugs to swap apart from teething granules - but I have just switched to the mobile site on my laptop. Much prefer it, though it is a lot wider isn't it?

BrightSunshineyDay Fri 27-Sep-13 08:06:44

Oh and the bookmark facility is better. On the desktop I spend seconds hours searching for the damn thing!

I have some.... <rustles around>

Vicodin
Diazepam
Ativan (lorazepam)
Paracetamol with codeine
Some other stuff that you shouldn't take unless you are epileptic or bipolar (sodium valproate and quetiapine)

And for the truly committed, some haloperidol.

Also copious amounts of alcohol for self-medication.

grin

So, boringly back to the thread for a minute... If I send a PM to someone who has NC'd will they receive it if they have changed back? If they reply, what name will the PM come from? What if I have NC's in the meantime?

<<fries brain>>

TeamEdward Fri 27-Sep-13 14:40:29

Feminax Ultra is naproxen. That's some good shit.

DropYourSword Fri 27-Sep-13 14:43:49

First attempt at NC to see how it works

Yep, didn't work for me either. Just says I don't own the user name. Definitely picked something no one else would have chosen. So how do you do it?

BrightSunshineyDay Fri 27-Sep-13 15:10:18

DropYourSword I think it has to be a name that you have already nabbed? Hope that makes sense.

Hearts I'm pretty sure yes they will still receive your message and when they reply the message will be from the name they have nc too. Hope that makes sense also.

Not good at explaining sorry

PedlarsSpanner Fri 27-Sep-13 15:14:04

Dropyour, you need to pick a name you have already used.

ShowOfHands Fri 27-Sep-13 17:29:26

My Grandma forgets if she's got any codeine in every time she pops out so she gets some prescription only stuff from the pharmacy and puts it in her cupboard. She currently has 8 full boxes of super strength co-codamol. Every time I visit she gives me a carrier bag full of fusty sweets, a packet of questionable biscuits and a box of drugs. I don't take them, they don't agree with them. So I put them in the cupboard. I'm willing to swap them for a unicycle. Shut up. It's my drug of choice. Only, I can't quite get my hands on one.

BelleOfTheBorstal Fri 27-Sep-13 17:42:11

Ah, show of hands, if I had a unicycle, it would be winging it's way to you as I speak.
And sodium napraxon only became available otc in the last six months. It's what I took prior to having my coil fitted. I would highly recommend it.
Did I mention I worked in a pharmacy? It's why I know all this stuff.

LeGavrOrf Fri 27-Sep-13 17:50:44

I read that fentanyl is 100 times better than morphine.

But also you would have had to have been bloody ill to have it prescribed so I am not really jealous that people have had it much

I have got loads of Naproxen. My dd takes it for her dodgy knees, didn't know it was feminax.

Maryz if you want me to buy some feminax and send it to you pm me.

LeGavrOrf Fri 27-Sep-13 17:52:58

That paramol stuff in the black boxes is great for headaches.

I sent dp out for some once, it had been withdrawn from sale and he came back with normal 30p paracetomol.

I cried.

BelleOfTheBorstal Sat 28-Sep-13 00:10:42

They gave it to me pre and post-op, compared to the morphine they prescribed me post c-section, it was like magical fairy juice. Very glad it is so hard to get hold of or else I imagine I would do little else!

KateSMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 28-Sep-13 11:51:54

<shuffles up in a trench coat> You kids want some Tixylixs? It's the real good shit. I've also got some potent Fisherman Friends.

KateSMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 28-Sep-13 11:52:50

Sorry any questions about ncing?

KateSMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 28-Sep-13 12:02:48

HeartsTrumpDiamonds

So, boringly back to the thread for a minute... If I send a PM to someone who has NC'd will they receive it if they have changed back? If they reply, what name will the PM come from? What if I have NC's in the meantime?

<<fries brain>>

AFAIK, PM's are attached to an account, not a name.

So if you sent a PM to me, KateS today, but on Sunday, I changed to Englebert, I would still get that PM, because the day on the day you sent it to KateS, I was still KateS.

But if you sent a PM to KateS on Sunday...it wouldn't reach me, because I would be Englebert.

But if I replied to the PM you sent on Saturday on Sunday, it would come from Englebert to you Hearts. Because I'm replying to you, it shouldn't matter if you NC, because it's linked to your account.

BUT if on Sunday you NC to Humperdink, and I try to message HeartsTrumpDiamonds, not within a reply....it won't go anywhere.

<breezes> So that as clear as mud? Good good!

Will double check what I've just told you is correct!

Trills Sat 28-Sep-13 12:33:17

I think the mobile site has to exist because the app is a bit rubbish really (for those who are used to full functionality). Sorry techs.

My understanding of PMs and namechanges.

I have previously been TrillianAstra, and now I am Trills. Both of those names are linked to my account.

If I send you a PM, it will say
From: Trills
To: Yourname
because that's who I am right now.

If you send a PM to TrillianAstra, I will get it, and it will say
From:Yourname
To: TrillianAstra
so I can see which name you sent it to and reply accordingly.

If I hit "reply" on that message, it will come to you and it will say
From: TrillianAstra
To: Yourname
because I repied to a message that had been sent to TrillianAstra

Nobody's "other names" are revealed by the PM system. They have thought about this very carefully.

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