Would you rather your kids played indoors than out?

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HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 05-Aug-13 16:52:22

Hello.

We've been asked if MNers would rather their children played indoors than outside - and, if so, why?

Is it because it's just less faff? Or because it's safer?

And, if you do prefer your children to play outside, can you tell us why? What do they gain from outdoor play that they can't get indoors? And do you feel you're unusual in preferring to get them outside?

motherinferior Mon 05-Aug-13 16:56:07

Doesn't that depend on (a) a lot of variables (b) what you feel they ought to be doing versus the practical realities? I think my children ought to be outside, because I am that sort of middle-class aware parent who knows all about Furedi et al, and writes about the value of Outdoor Play and suchlike. So in that sense I prefer it, and I would think that the majority of parents would feel similarly - it's a bit like getting people to tell you how much they drink, isn't it.

In practical terms I have a very small garden and my kids don't play out on the street all that much. If I lived somewhere that wasn't a rather revolting corner of Sarfeast Lunnon, I would turf them out a lot more.

As it is I swinge myself guiltily. In the same way I do about drink, really.

sillyoldfool Mon 05-Aug-13 16:58:58

I prefer them to be outside. The play more freely, imaginatively and physically outside.
We have a postage stamp London garden too though, so spend as much time as possible in the park.

ImNotBloody14 Mon 05-Aug-13 16:59:23

fuck no!

outside if at all possible, they can scream and shout and run and roughhouse and play football and go on bikes and dig and trampoline etc etc- inside they can do none of that without my head splitting in two.

out of interest- asked by who?

Nope my ds is out all the time at 4 and my dd who is 1 wants to be out constantly but can't yet walk properly!
We live in deepest darkest rural Scotland tho so its v safe and grandad lives next door, he is the only neighbour!

summerglory Mon 05-Aug-13 17:01:37

Outside for sure!

My 5yr old dd goes stir crazy if she's not been out to stretch her legs & get some fresh air - I liken it to walking a dog they need to run around and get fresh air it's built into their DNA.

peteypiranha Mon 05-Aug-13 17:02:34

Mine are aged 5 and 1 and in the warm months are out a lot more than they are in. I dont think Im unusual, but would say it was unusual to not be outside a lot, especially in the holidays.

WowOoo Mon 05-Aug-13 17:03:57

Outside.
They run around far more and tire themselves out.

They are more likely to play together with neighbours if they are out.

They also tend to be far more creative and will invent games etc. If inside my two boys tend to ask me for the iPad or to go on the Wii.

Pascha Mon 05-Aug-13 17:10:26

Good lord I'd kill them both if I had no outside space to shove them for at least some of the day. They're much better come 4pm when I start thinking about tea if they've been out and about.

Manchesterhistorygirl Mon 05-Aug-13 17:18:09

I'd far rather they played out.

Sirzy Mon 05-Aug-13 17:18:51

ds is 3.8 - I get him outside at every opportunity, nothing worse than a child who has been couped up all day! Bonus is on rainy days you get the park to yourself

TeWiSavesTheDay Mon 05-Aug-13 17:20:44

Outside, definitely!

They sleep far better with at least 3 hours of outdoor running about under their belt.

I think it's great socially as well: in the park, woods or street they get talking and playing with children they don't already know, learn new games, negotiate, share toys.

Easy for me too. Just hold the coats and keep a close eye on the smallest grin

MasterFlea Mon 05-Aug-13 17:25:03

Definitely rather them to be outdoors. They enjoy it more so are therefore less likely to throw a strop. Everybody wins.

I don't feel unusual for doing this. It just makes sense.

I feel they learn more outside. About weather, what to wear i.e. wellies for puddles, gloves for winter. Creepy crawlies, birds, don't eat the red mushrooms, which berries are nice, etc.

Then they love swings, paddling, sand and I can't have that in my house so out they go.

ManicMinor Mon 05-Aug-13 17:26:10

I have no preference, I'd rather they played where they want to play. In reality, I think my boys are more imaginative in their inside play, and as I don't mind them 'taking over the house', I don't feel the need to send them outside. I don't think there is inherently anything 'better' about outside play, though I guess if they never wanted to go out I'd be more concerned.

They are more likely to start playing with the neighbours' children if they are outside, but then the play often drifts inside.

VelmaDaceDinkley Mon 05-Aug-13 17:27:50

DD is 6 and plays out on the street with neighbour's children, it's up to her whether she wants to play out or not. I don't tend to mind either way, unless she's bothering me to fill up her water pistol ever 2 minutes or such like. We don't have a garden so this is her only chance of independent outdoor play.

I like a bit of both, but probably prefer outside. We live in the countryside but it's not that easy - no pavements, 60mph country roads, crazy bitey horses etc.

I love them getting muddy, climbing trees, hunting for mini beasts, jumping in puddles, playing in the sea or streams. I think it's important to feel connected to your environment so you learn to appreciate and care for it.

A close friend of mine is the opposite though, she is very risk averse. A walk outside with her and her DC is quite stressful - it's all "don't touch that/don't get muddy/don't sit down you'll get wet/ooooh wasps/stinging nettles/thorns about 10 metres away "

ManicMinor Mon 05-Aug-13 17:31:20

My house doesn't stay tidy for long, mind, that's a definite advantage to outside play.

DTisMYdoctor Mon 05-Aug-13 17:33:12

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

AdoraBell Mon 05-Aug-13 17:33:50

I prefer mine to play outside but where live for most of the year it is too hot with too much sun, about twice as much radiation as in the UK, so they end up doing indoor activities instead. They now want to move back to the UK and spend more time outside.

belatedmaybe Mon 05-Aug-13 17:34:49

Mine are always outside. They only really do screen time/inside at other people's houses. I feel we are all happier this way, especially the children's ponies who would get quite cross if they tried to ride them in a dining room rather than an arena wink

Outside.

I never realised until we rented this house with two large ponds. Now I cant give the kids free rein outside or leave the doors open at will. I thought it'd be a simple case of taking them out into the fenced off area and letting them play but i cant unless im sat there watching rigidly.

We spend far too much time indoors now, i just want onf piece of flat green grass that they run round, roll on, hop along and breathe fresh air whilst i watch from a chair!

GwenCooper81 Mon 05-Aug-13 17:48:09

My DC's love being outdoors, the park, the garden just anywhere outside.
We're very lucky to have a big garden and they have a trampoline and a swing set etc.
I prefer them outside, nothing better than pitching the tent and seeing them play, eat outside and come in exhausted ready for a bath and bed!.
My house stays tidier as well wink

I would love more outside play, but it's not always practical. We have a nice garden, but unfortunately it has 5 very steep steps with sharp edges leading from patio to garden area. I dislike DS1 (5) throwing himself out there because of them (and his inability to look where he's going) and DS1 (1) would need a permanent escort. I'm not a garden person. If we had a huge flat garden with room for slide/dens/garden toys, or even a garden without the damn steps I would be more encouraging.

Similarly with the park, it's brilliant if DS1's friends are around (we spent 3 hours there today) but when it's just us on our own we all end up a bit "meh" with it. It's nice enough, but the 8 play pieces lose their appeal for everyone if we go too often and alone.

I think the benefits of outside - fresh air, running around, a bit of dirt, are brilliant - but my reality is that it's a big effort for me to motivate myself. We are going to buy annual passes for a local attraction that has a huge outdoor park area, and this is going to help me a great deal with this.

tallulah Mon 05-Aug-13 17:51:26

Outside. She entertains herself on her swing instead of demanding food/drinks/put cbeebies back on the computer because I've pressed something and it's gone off.

magimedi Mon 05-Aug-13 17:56:24

I was always chucking them out.

I'd like to know who wants to know this & why?? Not in a cross way, just nosey.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 05-Aug-13 17:58:59

magimedi

I was always chucking them out.

I'd like to know who wants to know this & why?? Not in a cross way, just nosey.

Sorry to be so mysterious. It's not deliberate. That's all the information we've been given.

As soon as we know more, we'll fill you in.

HepsibarCrinkletoes Mon 05-Aug-13 18:05:30

Outside, every time. Very lucky to have a decent sized London garden and live on the edge of a great common, along with 3 huge commons and Battersea Park within 10 minutes' tops.

DD3 is happiest when out in the garden/at the park by far. The other three only come out after dark, but in years gone by it was pretty much the same with them.

daisychicken Mon 05-Aug-13 18:06:27

Nope, if its dry or even dry-ish, I encourage them to be outside! I'd rather they were playing with friends or on their bikes etc than sat inside watching a DVD or on the computer. I figure that inside stuff can be done in the evenings or on wet weather days and that we need to make the most of the good weather in this country!

During school holidays, I try and arrange days where we meet friends at parks with picnics or hot drinks if cold (plus kids am/swimming/museums) but then allow other days where they can be lazy and do a mix of playing out with local pals and inside stuff. I have days when I'd just like to curl up with a book so I do watch out for those days when the dc feel the same.

Outside, because it's easier on my eardrums and gives them a lot more space and less chance of breaking things. Weather permitting, I would even prefer that they played "indoor" stuff on the table outside rather than inside, but when it it is really hot outside they do sometimes need to come in and cool off.

I would consider this a fairly normal attitude, but then we live in a rural area where children have the luxury of growing up with plenty of outside space, both at home and at school.

Pozzled Mon 05-Aug-13 18:10:53

Outside, definitely. More space, so they don't sound so noisy and they don't wind each other up so much. Also I do think it's better for them- fresh air, exercise and all that nature to learn about.

We have a big garden and live near a park, so they're out a lot. The only issue is that if I need to do housework they have to be inside with me- DD2 isn't old enough to play in the garden unsupervised.

Also, outside means that the temptation to resort to tv/other screens as soon as they get bored is lessened.

StainlessSteelCat Mon 05-Aug-13 18:18:51

out. every time. less mess, less noise (for me, sorry neighbours), they are more creative and active. being out doors is a "good thing " in my head, I'm not entirely sure why. I just wish the out doors was bigger than our back garden, but until they are old enough to take themselves to the park it will have to do most days. we also try and take them to parks and on walks.

nextphase Mon 05-Aug-13 18:20:11

Strange question.
Apart from the incident that required me to fish a half crunched snail out of DS2's mouth, outside, as they don't give me as much of a headache.
Inside they gravitate to the TV.

LadyInDisguise Mon 05-Aug-13 18:20:46

OUTSIDE wo a doubt.
There is no way they can burn all this excess energy inside the house lol.

And it is a nice way to let them have more independence, time wo constant supervision of the parents and the opportunity to try things for themselves. They go on their bikes, play football, meet other children in the neighbourhood. What is there not to like about it?

5madthings Mon 05-Aug-13 18:22:33

god outside if at all possible. they have too much energy to be inside all day!

we have a back garden with climbing frame and trampoline (trampoline can be double edge sword as they love it but it can lead to fights and needs supervision)

or we live in a small cul de sac so they can play out which is great.

i dont mind them playing inside with lego eyc but they NEED to get outside and burn off energy.

ds3 has an injury at the mo and isnt allowed outside, its a nightmare!

deleted203 Mon 05-Aug-13 18:23:00

Outside. Fresh air and exercise is far better than sitting inside, IMO. Kids should be running around getting dirty - not sitting neatly inside watching tv or playing computer games.

I prefer them to play outside, British winters are long and miserable with plenty of time for indoor play so I prefer mine to make the most of good weather and play out. Dd3 and dd4 mainly play in the back garden where I can supervise but dd1 and dd2 are allowed to roam the village in order to play with their friends.

TeWiSavesTheDay Mon 05-Aug-13 18:41:43

I don't think it's unusual to prefer outdoor play BTW, we live on a close of about 20 family homes and all of the children play outside when the weather is good.

JollyHolidayGiant Mon 05-Aug-13 18:49:18

We prefer to be outside. If it's not raining or snowing then we spend some time outside every day. We have a very large sandpit.

MooseBeTimeForSpring Mon 05-Aug-13 18:49:58

Outside, although I live in Northern Canada where it can be -30 from October to April. It's a very dry cold though, so you can have fun outside for a little while if you're suitably dressed.

LEMisdisappointed Mon 05-Aug-13 18:53:53

I prefer to get her out and about, i dont let her play out on her own as it is not a suitable road and she doesn't have friends on this road either. She is 8.

Why?

LEMisdisappointed Mon 05-Aug-13 18:56:49

But helen, you must know WHO asked?

FoxPass Mon 05-Aug-13 19:01:49

outdoor, every time! fresh air, more choice and imagination, easier to tidy up and tires them out more smile

motherinferior Mon 05-Aug-13 19:17:20

Obviously everyone is going to say 'outside'. See my first post. We know it is the Right Answer.

Equally obviously Whoeveritis who has posed the question needs people to say they do feel it is unusual. Probably for a study/feature on Cooped Up Kids.

tittytittyhanghang Mon 05-Aug-13 19:28:12

Outside. For my benefit as in the house stays tidy, i get peace and the fresh air tires them out. Win win for me.

CharlotteCollins Mon 05-Aug-13 19:31:06

Outdoors, in theory.

In practice, they often don't want to do anything active unless I'm outside running around with them. Which tires me out before them, and then I'm worn out and they're grumpy that I've stopped playing so soon!

Maybe less tidying up to do when they play in the garden (it's overgrown and not much cared for)... although I often discover things they've abandoned outside only after it's rained (toys, shoes, that kind of thing).

KnittedWaffle Mon 05-Aug-13 19:32:15

Outside, definitely. Far easier to hose the mud off the DC than spend all day tidying and cleaning up after them.

CharlotteCollins Mon 05-Aug-13 19:33:44

The question is oddly worded. A bit leading? But not in the expected direction, as others have noted.

jackandjilly Mon 05-Aug-13 19:36:02

Happy to go with the flosmile

queddu6 Mon 05-Aug-13 19:39:26

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

What a funny question! Who thinks kids belong indoors?

Not me. Outside getting muddy/wet/c

Tigerbomb Mon 05-Aug-13 20:02:20

I've brought two children up (now in their 20's) in a three bedroom 2nd floor flat. Fortunately the flat was huge but there was a communal garden. The Dc's rarely went out there so they mainly played inside. The area we lived in at the time had a rather dodgy reputation and I didn't want them to play outside anyway.

So I suppose it depends on awful lot on what is available and where . For us at the time inside was definitely better than outside

Sorry, pressed send to early!

What a funny question! Who thinks kids belong indoors?

Not me. Outside getting muddy/wet/covered in sand from the beach etc

Fresh air exhausts children like nothing else, as well as being active and healthy it's fun and easy to stimulate them.

Breezy1985 Mon 05-Aug-13 20:03:43

Mine prefer to be out, they are 7 & 9, at the moment they just come in to be fed.

They enjoy the freedom of being out, lots of friends to play with and just seem happier in general to be outside smile

MrsGeologist Mon 05-Aug-13 20:10:13

I prefer outdoors, but our garden isn't terribly safe at the moment and I can't spend all day every day at the park, so they spend more time indoors than I would like.

If my garden were safe, they'd spend most of the holiday outside.

Outside. Healthier and limited because of weather conditions, so seems more precious.

MNHQ, I also want to know who wants to know.

CMOTDibbler Mon 05-Aug-13 20:16:29

Outside. ds needs to burn off energy, and the garden or the green opposite is the best place to be running round.
At the weekends we are out all the time.

PollyPlummer Mon 05-Aug-13 20:22:25

Outside. We try to get out every day. If they play inside they fight over toys. If they play outside they run around pretending to hunt for dinosaurs. No fighting and they wear themselves out. It's a win win situation.

Nagoo Mon 05-Aug-13 20:24:32

Outside. They tire themselves out and my house stays clean.

Either.

I also think it's extremely odd that MNHQ don't know who is asking the question.

Actually I prefer them to be outside when they can. We usually have so much rain that I like to take advantage of any dry weather at all.

JambalayaCodfishPie Mon 05-Aug-13 20:35:27

I must admit, I read 'We've been asked' and immediately thought by who.

Why can't we know - because it may affect our answers?

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 05-Aug-13 20:40:07

TheOneWithTheHair

Either.

I also think it's extremely odd that MNHQ don't know who is asking the question.

Sorry, folks. Been away from my screen.

We've been asked by Sky News, I believe. They're thinking of running a story tomorrow.

Thanks Helen. Not much of a mystery! grin

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 05-Aug-13 20:52:23

TheOneWithTheHair

Thanks Helen. Not much of a mystery! grin

Indeed! Maybe we should have strung you out for another couple of hours? <evil grin>

Imagine the outrage. Hehe. grin

AllSWornOut Mon 05-Aug-13 21:00:44

Outside. DC is very physical and goes nuts if he's cooped up all day inside. Can't wait to move somewhere we'll have a garden.

Outside all the way. DS is 13 months and pretty much spends all day outside. In fact the only time he tantrums is when he has to come in for whatever reason.

It is the summer though, I wonder if the answers would be different in the winter. I am 100% sure that he will still spend a lot of time outside but it will obviously be harder for me as I'll need to persuade him toput some clothes on first!

Df takes ds into the back garden every day the weathers good - they go on the swings, play with the random toys around, ds helps daddy in the shed, yesterday they took up the pond smile ds loves helping but poor mite just gets in my way so daddy is god to him!

Dd likes going out on the swings too or out front on her bike or to kick a ball about.

Gets them out my way which is fab pregnant lazy and cba listening to them whinge and the fresh air does them good.

mellicauli Mon 05-Aug-13 21:49:36

If your children play outside. you can actually hear what they are saying on Radio 4 and this leads to better all-round Mothering.

IwishIwasmoreorganised Mon 05-Aug-13 21:53:21

Outside is our preference - the house gets less messy!

We have a smallish back garden though and no where close enough for them to play outdoors unsupervised which means that if they play anywhere other than the garden I have to go too. That's not always possible for instance at tea time when I need to be preparing the evening meal.

Our dc are like dogs - they need a good run around outdoors every day! They play together for far longer outside and seem to use their imaginations more. They get less bored of their toys outside in the garden too. We're pretty well equipped with waterproofs and warm clothes for in cold weather so it's unusual for bad weather to stop them playing outdoors completely - just for shorter periods.

Bicnod Mon 05-Aug-13 22:05:00

Outside.

We moved out of London to buy a house with a decent garden and I am grateful for it every day.

I have two very energetic boys who need to burn off energy so spend time outside every day come rain or shine.

racingheart Mon 05-Aug-13 22:29:56

Outdoors, definitely. One of the reasons we left London was so they could spend their free time outdoors. We're surrounded by woods, hills, streams, wildlife, and have a garden full of swings and slides and trampoline.

But they still need to be booted off the sofa first most days. Once they're out there, though, they love it - water fights and cycle rides, bonfires and target practise. they come in all rosy cheeked and happy in a way they never are after a session on screens - or maybe it's just me that feels happier seeing them like that. They just seem healthier and happier afterwards.

Also, when they play inside it gets soooo untidy - out come warhammer, every musical instrument under the sun, a mortgageable quantity of Lego, plus all the cushions off the sofas to build dens and trenches. Much rather they just trailed a bit of mud across the kitchen floor.

DelayedActionMouseMaker Mon 05-Aug-13 22:55:13

Outside. It's why we are renting where we are rather than buying a house with a postage stamp garden. (Which would be all we could afford.) We are probably royally messing up our future, but I want my kids to grow up knowing and loving the outdoors and the natural world as much as DH and I did.
As it happens we have little choice in the matter, dd lives on her trampoline and DS is out the door as soon as he has inhaled his breakfast in the morning, in his pj's and whoevers shoes he finds first. smile

LadyLech Mon 05-Aug-13 23:53:50

Hell no, why would I want them under my feet, when I could kick them out to the park and not have to deal with their fighting until tea time? If I'm really lucky, they'll meet up with friends, ask if they can stay there for tea, and I won't have them home until bedtime grin.

However, this method does unfortunately come with the catch that every now and then I have to do my stint at feeding 6 children which randomly turn up for their tea.

Thankfully, I live in a village on the edge of the Cotswolds, which is nice and safe and where most people chuck their kids out to play from year 1 (so thankfully there is usually a friend they can find.)

KristinaM Tue 06-Aug-13 03:42:57

Outside. That's the whole point of living in the country. We have a large garden and are surrounded by fields and woods.

Parmarella Tue 06-Aug-13 08:02:41

Depends where you live!

Where we live now ( Hampshire village, quiet road) I love for them to play outside sith their "gang"

They get fresh air and exercise, they develop social skills, they learn how to work as a team, how to be with a child with SN in daily life, they sleep very well after a day outside, and they learn to assess risk ( climbing trees, jumping off walls).

It can feel a bit scary as I have less controll as a parent, but I also think it is great when the sort out their own problems with rules, cheating etc.

Learning life skills really.

GreatGooglyMoogly Tue 06-Aug-13 08:29:54

Both have benefits, but due to the weather in this country (and my aversion to dripping, muddy children) I tend to want them outside whenever the weather is dry as I know there will be a lot of time when the weather is wet and they'll be inside anyway! Luckily we have a good-sized garden so even if I need to do things in the house they can be playing safely outside. I wouldn't let them play outside on the street.

crazykat Tue 06-Aug-13 09:31:33

It depends tbh. I used to prefer them inside as we have a corner plot so half the garden is in the front and on a busy-ish road and the garden was a mess when we moved in. It was safer for them to play inside.

Now we've had chance to sort the garden a bit and they're older (5,4 and 2) I like them to be outside when its nice so they can burn off some energy and not drive me insane. They're also got bikes/seesaw/paddling pool to amuse them.

If we had a bigger back garden like all the houses round here that aren't on a corner or a higher fence/hedge round the front, they'd be out more as we'd have a trampoline out front. As we have a low fence I don't like the idea of a trampoline/swings out front incase its stolen (its that kind of area).

crazykat Tue 06-Aug-13 09:37:24

They'd also play out more if there was a decent park (or two) on the estate. As it is there was a good one built a few years ago in the field behind our house but as things broke -fence, slide etc it was removed instead of fixed or replaced. Now there's only one or two things there so no point going, and the nearest decent park is a half hour walk which isn't great in the current changing weather.

I think that if the park behind our house was rebuilt - there's plenty or space for a huge park- and maybe a smaller one at the other end of the estate built, and maintained properly, then a lot more children would be able to play out instead of being stuck indoors or wandering the street as there's nowhere close for them to go.

belatedmaybe Wed 07-Aug-13 12:42:45

Did anyone hear the report on this? It really tickled me! Apparently parents don't like to let their children play out anymore because of all the kidnapping and paedophilia that go on now.

I did wonder about the leading manner of the question but it seems they missed their target with mners as I didn't see one person mention this up thread! I wonder if we are all just a bit more realistic about risk here or the people asking the question just ignored anyone giving the answer that didn't fit grin

katydid02 Mon 12-Aug-13 09:51:50

Outside; they build dens, climb trees, have water fights, play football and do all the things that children should be doing in my opinion.

Depends. DD1 (5) outdoors
DD2 (19m) indoors. She brings every stone from the garden in, then tries to eat them, plus she eats mud, would eat cat poo if she found it. Far too stressful.

TwasBrillig Mon 12-Aug-13 10:12:39

Depends what they mean. I wouldn't let my children play 'out' in our area. Unfortunately we're not in a naice village with a pleasant group of friends but a rougher area. I would love that to be the case.

Similarly our garden isn't big enough to actually run in - a friends is and they can just play out all day but I actually have to take mine in the car. Plenty of gorgeous places to go near hear but it means they're not 'out' by default, its an intentional trip.

Watching them in my friends garden was ace, they can run like loons and I could safely read a book in peace. Much less stressful than a park!

Witchesbrewandbiscuits Sun 25-Aug-13 16:56:42

I prefer my dc to play outside. they have more space and access to different environments to explore. they also get fresh air and vit d on their skin. some environments can be unsafe but it is important to weigh up what is and isnt appropriate for your child. they need to be exposed to a certain element of risk to learn risk assessment and develop gross motor skills and muscle memory. I also think outdoor environments allow for more energy ro be burned off. however, I dont agree with children being turfed out onto the street and left to their own devices.

HarrietSchulenberg Sun 25-Aug-13 16:59:53

Once they're 8+ then out with friends, under 8 and it's out again but in the garden.

Snog Fri 11-Oct-13 07:41:44

outside! you can run off energy outside and stay healthier than if you are cooped up indoors all the time. plus less mess in the house!
i think outdoor play builds independence and confidence.

usualsuspect Fri 11-Oct-13 07:45:44

Mine all played out, I don't live in a nice village.I live on a council estate.

It's the norm for all the kids to play out around here.

Jaynebxl Fri 11-Oct-13 07:52:21

Iz anyone still looking for answers to this? Just in case, another vote for outside as there can be no arguments about wanting screen time and they are getting some exercise and using their imaginations.

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