You are digging a deeper and deeper hole MNHQ

(376 Posts)
amillionyears Tue 22-Jan-13 11:00:07
Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:04:51


InNeatCognac Tue 22-Jan-13 11:06:01

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FloatyBeatie Tue 22-Jan-13 11:06:22

Oh fgs million. The talk guidelines and HQ's comments generally are filled with purposefully vague phrases like "letting the conversation flow freely, "making parents lives easier" precisely because you just can't have hard-and-fast rules to police all aspects of conversation. There needs to be a bit of discretion and commonsense, which is what the moderators seem to have, but since you can't always formulate the correct solution on the basis of rules HQ aren't going to be able to point out a precise rule in the face of interrogation about every decision. If you try and make them cite rules for every decision you are just cornering them into a kind of pedantry exercise that no one can win.

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:08:42

Honestly amillionyears , in the nicest possible way you really need to let this go, - you are unhappy with the way MNHQ do things but you cannot change it, and there are plenty of others who actually bloody love this site most of the time and think they do a pretty good job at it.

Drop it lovely, it's getting a bit odd.

amillionyears Tue 22-Jan-13 11:10:09

To summarise.
Though someone else may be able to do it better than me.
MNHQ allowed a regular mumsnet poster to carry on with a thread they knew to be a wind up yesterday.
Today they have changed teh MN Talk Guidelines on trolls.
Their previous rules, which were valid yesterday, stated that they do not allow trolls including those that do it just for the hell of it.

Today, they are have changed the rules. And have quoted them, so it looks like the MN poster who started the thread yesterday, did not break their rules.
They have also not stated that their rules have been changed, either today, or in the last few hours.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:12:23

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FannyFifer Tue 22-Jan-13 11:13:13

I was deleted for no real reason, I didn't realise that saying "this has to be a wind up" was classed as troll hunting.
So we are to believe everything that is posted on here & can't comment if we think its a joke.

<sits on hands>

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:13:40

It's their site, they can adapt the rules whenever they like though.

And really, this is one up on 'mad as a box of frogs' is a racist slur on French people.

For crying out loud.

InNeatCognac Tue 22-Jan-13 11:13:53

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oh FFS this has already been discussed on the other bloody thread, we know that you dont like it, what are you hoping to achieve by dragging it up again?

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:14:48

I was deleted on that thread too but I probably called someone a cunt grin

threesocksmorgan Tue 22-Jan-13 11:15:22

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frasersmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 11:15:34

people were deleted for saying it was a wind up.. when it was a wind up ...

and yet the op was not deemed to be in the wrong

seems kinda upside down to me

Moln Tue 22-Jan-13 11:15:46

First post from them was that it was a poster was a poster from before and that there was no reason to doubt the posting. I.e. the poster had posted sensible (kinda) before and they assumed she was a bad obsessive baker and a tad controlling. At this point they were taken in and believed it real

Second comment was that they had had another reporting and by this time it was obvious that everyone knew it was a wind up and it was making people laugh. So let it slide (anyone who had read He is a Geography teacher could have had this dawn on them)

Not in the same league as some making up something like they have been locked in the garden shed in their nightie.

BluelightsAndSirens Tue 22-Jan-13 11:16:27

I also don't like funny trolling threads hi stick to the view of dont like It then move onto to something I do like.

MN is great and no one is forcing you to use it.

million serious question now, why have you started this thread?
Why not email MNHQ? What will this achieve except an argument?

You have made it clearly many times that you have issues with certain parts of MN, well, thats life aint it?
We dont all share your views, so with all due respect, either suck it up and get on with it, or dont.

I'm confused. I shall have how go and skimread the thread now!

CuttedUpPear Tue 22-Jan-13 11:20:08

It's not school you know. It's just the internet.
Look it's snowing outside, go and have some fun and stop worrying about the rules on a chatboard.

Isildur Tue 22-Jan-13 11:21:19

Amillion, most people don't take MN as seriously as you seem to.

It's just a bit of fun for most people, a way of killing time. Sometimes people look for help here, and often find it.

But most don't lose all perspective, and fail to see the difference between a lighthearted joke, and malicious trolling.

GirlOutNumbered Tue 22-Jan-13 11:22:03

I love threads like the mad bun lady. Really funny. There are loads of places for sensible chat. If people want to join in on random stupid threads, why not??

What does it actually matter?

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:22:13

people were deleted for saying it was a wind up.. when it was a wind up ...

MNHQ have already explained that whilst they knew it was a regular MNer they genuinely thought she was posting about her substandard cake-eating husband, not that she had made it up for a laugh.

BitBewildered Tue 22-Jan-13 11:23:19

And really, this is one up on 'mad as a box of frogs' is a racist slur on French people.

I knew the OP's name rang a bell ...

and for someone so hot on rules, you do know a thread about a thread will be deleted?

Moln Tue 22-Jan-13 11:24:12

Amillion, I think you might need to step away from the internet for a while. Go watch the birds. If there are any.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 11:24:51

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TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 11:27:18

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SolomanDaisy Tue 22-Jan-13 11:27:22

Oh, I guessed who the OP would be...

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 11:27:49

It's a bit of a mole, mountain situation, but the fact that you are allowed to post wind-up threads, but not allowed to question if it is a wind-up, is a bit odd really.

amillionyears you need to get out more. And if you don't like MNHQ, step away from their website maybe.....

JakeBullet Tue 22-Jan-13 11:28:54

It was a joke thread...end of. I have seen some fabulous joke treads here by people who name change so they can have fun. It harmed nobody, most people guessed pretty quickly that it was a wind up. Lighten up.

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 11:29:16

shiney, that was nasty and untrue, and I have reported.

TanteRose Tue 22-Jan-13 11:30:07

I hear cake-baking is a really nice pasttime for those with time on their hands...

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 11:33:52

god, this is why I hardly use mn anymore. people report for nothing, the PO are taking over and any humour has been quashed under self-important naval-gazing and faux outrage.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 11:34:16

Good, good LoopsInhoops. I shall go and stand outside the head teacher's office shall I?

I shan't beat you up in the playground later for being a snitch, don't worry grin

As someone else said, I imagine MNHQ can do what they want, it is their site.

If you don't like it .........

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 22-Jan-13 11:34:28

This is another wind up, right?

I read the cake thread. T'was funny especially "No, he's not hen pecked. He's a Geography teacher"


I have two vomiting children. Why can't we have fun threads?

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 11:35:46

shiney, careful now. don't be a poo-poo head.

thats not offensive, is it? <frets>

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:37:15

I have REPORTED you for that, TrampyPants...

frasersmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 11:37:34

Its not that we cant have wind ups .. its people shouldnt be deleted for saying its a wind up

If you are going to let people name change to wind people up then other people should be able to say this is a wind up without fear of deletion

Having skimmed the thread in question I can can see why million and assorted other posters were cross that it wasn't deleted as a troll thread.

I guess it comes down to whether you think ...a troll is someone who poses as someone else in order to stir up trouble, deceive and mislead means that Greensleeves posing as someone else in a situation that wasn't real was trollery.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 11:38:53

Thank you Fenton. If it wasn't for mumsnetters like you I'd be able to GET AWAY with referring to someone as an idiot.

And we can't have that can we?

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:38:58

They didn't 'let' her namechange to wind people up - they genuinely thought she had a bad cake eating husband to rant about.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 11:39:21
shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 11:39:27

'Im telling on youuuuu '

frasers its already been explained up thread that MNHQ only knew it was a regular poster on a NC at first, not that it was a joke thread.

Thewhingingdefective Tue 22-Jan-13 11:39:53

I missed cakegate. How bloody hilarious.

I didn't know people got deleted for saying something was a wind up.


I still think you are getting your knickers in a twist about nothing OP.

HecateWhoopass Tue 22-Jan-13 11:40:35

If that thread highlighted a need for the wording to change - that's a good thing. MNHQ should, as a business, always be looking at their policies and procedures and ensuring they are fit for purpose and this shows that they do that. They respond quickly to any gaps or areas of uncertainty or confusion.

I have a business, and also do the policies and procedures for my husband's business.

There are times that something happens and you realise that your policy for that is either lacking a clause, or what is there is open to misinterpretation and so you change it and you change it PDQ! grin

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:41:03

Oh, I just did a genuine 'Aww' at that Trampy

HecateWhoopass Tue 22-Jan-13 11:41:31

I do think they should reinstate the deleted comments on that thread though.

Particularly my suggestion to feed the cake to the goats, if there were no birds where she lives grin

frasersmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 11:41:44

yeah but people who said it was a wind up were deleted but the actual wind up has been allowed to stand

It just seems upside down to me

and now see.. what was a harmless wind up has become a contentious issue..

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 11:42:07

I know, don't you just want to scoop him up and give him icecream?

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:42:20

Amillionyears just gets really fixed on certain ideas at times and is unable to accept that she might be treading a lonely path even when squillions of people say so. A lot.

Like I said, I'm not a fan of jokey trolling but it's not a common thing and it had no nasty intent and loads of people thoroughly enjoyed it. So trying to admonish mnhq and starting a thread is ridiculous really.

Let it go.

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:42:39

It is a shame that went Hecate, I liked that a lot grin

CatelynStark Tue 22-Jan-13 11:42:49

I thought it was hilarious! MNHQ can do what the heckity heck they like. It's their site <shrugs>

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 11:43:34

well said Pagwatch 8


<walks in, confused, walks back out>

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:46:40

Free the Pagwatch 8

<<waves banner>>

lubeybooby Tue 22-Jan-13 11:47:06

So what?

Really, who cares?

The thread was fun, and funny. It was harmless.

And MNHQ can do whatever they like to the rules with or without telling us first or after.

Allaquandry Tue 22-Jan-13 11:47:51

But, pag, given that you're MN royalty, I thought you were allowed to call people 'cunts' without fear of deletion, and its only us mere mortals who get deleted for such abuse? <leafs through rules>

I think we or at least amillionyears should be told.

LadyBeagleEyes Tue 22-Jan-13 11:48:21

You really don't like MN much, do you Million?
As far as I could see, MNHQ stuck totally to the guidelines, they knew it was a regular poster, so they deleted the trollhunters, which is what they always do.
I also don't think MN is for you, you constantly complain about it if they do the slightest little thing that doesn't suit you.
Then you write posts like this, expecting a whole website to change, rather than go and find another one that you like better.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:49:11

I should be allowed to call people cunts. Mnhq should do another addendum.
Not shiny though. She shouldn't. Oh no. She's a poo head.

Mintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 11:49:57

I see what you're saying frasersmummy. Have never been a fan of the immediate deletion of anyone questioning the veracity of a thread ... but then tis not my site!

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 11:52:29

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Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 11:52:52

baoves are lovely trees native to Louisiana before anyone asks.

captainmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 11:53:24

Just read the entire thread - and think it's hilarious.

I love greensleeves (thought she'd left) and the one about the hamster from a few years ago had me literally crying.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:54:05

I thought it was a cross between a bun and some loaves.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 11:55:47

ello paggy

I cba to rtft, on what page does amillion get involved and complain about MNHQ

I have a great fondness for amillion

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 11:56:22
Catchingmockingbirds Tue 22-Jan-13 11:56:49

Careful Lubey and catelyn, I once mentioned mn being able to do what they want on their site and it was likened to the murder of 6 million Jews in the holocaust! grin

Isildur Tue 22-Jan-13 11:57:52

Perhaps it's a deliberate thing, this hole that MNHQ are supposedly digging.

A kind of bunker.

When it all gets a bit too much up in The Towers, they can throw in a stooge-plop, like Gabby, or Mitmoo, and retire to the bunker/hole whilst we amuse ourselves on tail-chasing threads.

Then they can come back in the morning, and blame it all on Olivia and the gin.

<steals pags MN royalty crown>

Dear [insert preferred name here] your posts make you sound like a cunt

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:59:16

It's after the reveal really hulster. So last page or so.

Greenie does taa-daa. Most people applaud. A very few say ' aww, bit deflated about that'. Amillionyears goes into full 'mnhq have broken their own rules, it's all unfair and bad and evil' and then starts this thread.

I think I broke amillionyears when I bullied Tee..

<walks back in>

Just had to grin at Hully, love your quick thinking there...

Maryz Tue 22-Jan-13 11:59:24

I like it when they let joke threads stand. It's like the good old days.

Obviously if anyone is getting really upset, it's fair enough for them to step in, but that thread seemed pretty harmless.

I don't think joking and trolling are the same thing, are they?

HecateWhoopass Tue 22-Jan-13 11:59:56

I know, Fenton. It took me about 20 minutes to think of that.

I am not a naturally funny person. sad


LadyBeagleEyes Tue 22-Jan-13 12:00:02

And, just to add to my post, I think we should be able to say something is a wind up without being called a trollhunter.
But that's another thread.

Narked Tue 22-Jan-13 12:01:22

Please get a grip.

IamtheZombie Tue 22-Jan-13 12:01:41

Zombie really can't understand why some folk appear to believe that MNHQ are or should be personally accountable to them.

but pag i thought you were team million, Pagwatch 8


Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 12:04:22

I should get a t-shirt to that effect Tantrum. Or a nice tatt.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 12:05:22

I liked Worra wanting Mambo to be the 5th poster.

MoaneyMcmoanmoan Tue 22-Jan-13 12:15:15

Actually I agree with the OP.

I find it irritating when I have spent a long time reading a thread, or have spent time answering an OP and it turns out to be a 'joke'.

But I am prepared to acknowledge I am not known far and wide for my sparkling wit - and it does seem, that where I find these wind-up threads irritating and somewhat selfish, most others find them hilarious...

So how do we differentiate between a troll and a joke? Genuine question.

Narked Tue 22-Jan-13 12:20:30

'So how do we differentiate between a troll and a joke? Genuine question.'

MNHQ do that. And if they feel a regular poster has overstepped the line they have the power to ban people for a few days or forever. They choose what to delete and what to let stand. And they might not always get it right - and unlike a lot of sites they admit when they feel they've screwed up - but it's up to them to draw the line.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 12:21:59

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Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 12:24:37

troll - bad purposes

wind-up - humorous, harmless purposes

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Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 12:26:56

How the raving fuck could anyone be "hurt" by it?

Hurt because some random stranger was a bit odd and didn't want her husband to eat burnt cakes and they pointed out it was a bit barking?

Where is the hurt? Where? Where are the carefully crafted posts with outpourings of love and concern and sharing of similar stories of cake????

Maryz Tue 22-Jan-13 12:30:13

People say they are "hurt" when they mean they are embarrassed at being caught out by not recognising the joke and they might feel a bit silly.

Whereas with true trolling, people are genuinely hurt.

That's the difference.

I wasnt hurt. I am just stoopid.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 12:36:10

I dipped in and out that thread, it amused me.

Is the op not technically goading, by deliberately trying to start a bun fight that involves MNHQ?

Should I report it?


Can you imagine amillion reaching out to you on r'ships and mental health.

I don't have to imagine it as she is supportive in MH for sure and despite being PO about some of the daft stuff, that comment just aint cricket.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 12:37:32

Oh Tantrums, your not stoopid.

Come nestle in my unhoicked bosom and I shall stroke your hair my precious.

On a lighter note - a good old fashioned light hearted wind up thread is good for the soul. I was gobsmaked that a thread about cakes could get so many deletions on it. grin

Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 12:39:08

I felt hurt by cake-slur-proxy. I have had a long and mutually beneficial relationship with MarsLady's LDC for many years now and to see it defamed thus was most exasperating.
I took down all my home made lard bird seed cakes by way of protest.

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 22-Jan-13 12:39:39

I partially believed it. My sister is obsessive about her cake to the point where it has in the past taken her three attempts to get a new birthday cake recipe just right but she brings all the 'wrong cakes' here and we eat them whilst drinking some of her ingredients. Amaretto and soggy cake, mmmmm....

Birthday person is not allowed to see or know about the 'wrong cakes'

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 12:39:40

I am confused - with the cake eating thread MNHQ realised (after the fact) that it was a regular on a wind-up, admitted they were taken in by it, but then went on to seemingly endorse it and did not delete it.

Yet the King Tut thread, which was just as amusing (moreso in my opinion) and a lot of people had invested time and energy in, was just deleted without reaching the conclusion that the cake thread was allowed to reach.

(Yes I'm still bitter about the King Tut Denouement being snatched away from me!)

So, genuine question, what's the difference?

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 12:40:04

I meant it with love tho keema, I am very fond of amillion. BUT, amillion, if you are hurt by it, I apologise.

Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 12:40:06

[stealth home made lard bird seed cake boast]

FloatyBeatie Tue 22-Jan-13 12:42:31

I hate stealth home made lard bird seed cake boast posts.

Slubber did you make sure you decommissioned the condemned home made lard bird seed cakes properly? So that the birds don't just eat them from the bin. That would be an insult to your home made lard bird seed cake.

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 12:43:44

I'm quite hurt at this thread, to be honest.

I saw someone make a nasty, bitchy and playground-like comment at another poster and called her on it, whilst doing the decent thing and explaining why I'd reported. That led to her and some others taking the piss out of me for standing by MN's procedure.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not pset as in boo hoo crying, but I am pissed off that I've spent many long minutes telling people not to be so daft when they accuse MN of being bitchy, and of certain posters 'bullying' others - I had thought it was nonsense. But it's so easy to see, just in a tiny snapshot of a thread like this that some posters and their friends are quite incapable of behaving like grownups.

Shiney, think about it. Think about how your post will have read to the OP. I know you're not an uncaring bitch, so why are you acting like one?

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 12:44:47

The cake thread had the potential to be hurtful - as someone says on the original thread, it had the potential to go into DV or mental health territory. Just because nobody posted about their own experience doesn't mean they didn't think it, so none of us can know whether it actually did hurt someone.

Moln Tue 22-Jan-13 12:45:32

Can i join mn roylaty? Would like to wear a crown. 'Specially a sparkly one.

What do I have to do for it? I'll marry someone, hand oout flyer. Make tea and stuff.

Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 12:48:00

Floaty, I threw my home made lard bird seed cakes vengefully into the snow and shook my fist impotently at the bird-free sky. 'That'll show them' I thought angrily and hurtedly. Now I have to go and hang them all up again as it was all a great big fib. Let's hope those wood pigeon porkers haven't got to them.

I don't get the Mambo and 5th joke.


Has anyone got the lemon drizzle cake recipe? I once made one with a top so hard it needed a drill to cut it. Didn't stop us eating it though.

Moln You can't join royalty my dear. It grows on you.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 12:51:08

The cake thread had the potential to be hurtful - as someone says on the original thread, it had the potential to go into DV or mental health territory

Tell me something that doesn't.

Boiled eggs?

Stale Ryvita?

It's a minefield.

The song exit "mambo number 5"??

Moln Tue 22-Jan-13 12:52:09

I dont get it either Exit. We shall have to be thick in tandem.

TheSecondComing Tue 22-Jan-13 12:53:19

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BIWI Tue 22-Jan-13 12:53:35

Anything here has the potential to develop into something completely ridiculous.

But that thread didn't.

<waves to Hully> Where have you been?!

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 12:53:35

Fuck you and your stale Ryvita Hully. How could you?

<<runs off crying>>

[sorry. Couldn't resist. Also thought Loops just made a bloody good point too]

Moln Tue 22-Jan-13 12:54:18

Like mould Exit¿ or maybe fur. Possibbly feathers

Nope - still don't get it.

I smashed a bottle of soy sauce on the kitchen floor last night. It was knocked out of the cupboard by the ryvita box, so I find you comments quite hurtful Hully


weegiemum Tue 22-Jan-13 12:54:35

There's nothing wrong with being a Geography teacher

<<hides beard and corduroy jacket>>

(yes, I am one!)

(I'm even female!!)

Don't mention Mould


IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 12:55:21

Hully - agreed, but my point is that no group of people have the right to say what is or isn't hurtful to another group of people

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 12:56:24

Are you blaming the Ryvita for pushing the Soy sauce?

You should have an inquiry surely? Should the Ryvita be let off?

frasersmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 12:57:02

there are personal attacks on this thread and therefore should be and has been reported

If you see someone being personally attacked it is the right thing to do .. it is not and never will be the right thing to say .. its nowt to do with me.. that way lies a very bad road

But no one mentioned mental health or DV did they?

No one opened up to the OP about their own terrible experiences of their DHs eating cake, having no birds, or anything of the sort.

Ive said this before, anything can potentially upset someone. Does that mean no one can joke anymore?

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 12:57:24

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Yes I am blaming the ryvita. Bloody Crispbreads. No fecking manners.

Porkster Tue 22-Jan-13 12:57:41

Bit it was just a bit of fun!

Even those who believed it, enjoyed the bundle, I think.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 12:58:14

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Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 12:58:38

Satan, no, but that isn't the point.

Equally, no one has to refrain form having a joke because they don't know what some people may or may not find funny.

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 12:58:59

Fucking Ryvita.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 12:59:11

Hi Biwi, I've been here and there. There mainly.



THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:00:22

<waits to be accused of being MN Royalty for the first time ever>

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:01:41

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THERhubarb, are you Mumsnet Royalty/ I think you are.

Viviennemary Tue 22-Jan-13 13:03:43

I put one post on. And then quickly realised the thread wasn't genuine. A lot of people found it amusing and it was a harmless enough topic. But I agree that it was a bit rich deleting people for saying it wasn't genuine when it wasn't. Well a thread about a thread. That's against the rules too. Still no point in taking it all too seriously. I once worked with somebody and her favourite phrase was 'Can we have a ruling on that please', It drove everyone mad!

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:04:24

I don't think she is.

Perhaps a lesser, lesser Royal. A second cousin in Norway or something.

Catchingmockingbirds Tue 22-Jan-13 13:06:48

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IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 13:09:10

It's not the joking wind-up thread that irks me, it's the discrepancies in the way joking wind-up threads are treated by MNHQ, seemingly depending on who the OP is and how many (and which) people applaud her genius. I still don't know the difference between Burned Cakes and King Tut - yes I'm aware how ridiculous that sounds!

By the same token, T&B, I agree that everything has the potential to upset someone, but if there is a rule in place that wind-up threads are not allowed then it should be used across the board and not just in an ad-hoc manner depending on who the OP is. It's less hurtful to be 'hurt' by a thread that is real than it is to be unnecessarily hurt by something that is fake iykwim.

CheeseStrawWars Tue 22-Jan-13 13:09:35

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TheSecondComing Tue 22-Jan-13 13:10:16

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ThereAreNoBirdsHere Tue 22-Jan-13 13:10:36

Where has amillion gone? Has she been taken captive?

There needs to be more rules on how to have fun and what is a joke in mn. Highly regulated entertainment is the way forward

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:11:10

see the above TSC hmm

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:12:22

I'm a pleb dear, just a pleb smile

Having taken another look, it is clear that it is a thread about cakes. It is amusing. I think people have got all fired up and then when they realised it was a joke thread, they got angry at having wasted their time and energy on a joke thread.

Fair enough.

However parenting is a serious business and we all need to have a laugh now and then. Back in the dim early days of Mumsnet these joke threads were well received and provided much mirth and even a sense of community, a sense of a joke shared and even those taken in would be laughing.

Now it seems that Mumsnet is full of angry people who want to find offense in everything and everyone. Everyone seems so tense and angry and quick to blame. I wonder if it's to do with the mounting pressure on everyone these days?

I can see why some threads might be offensive, when sometimes a joke falls flat, but the cake thread was simply meant to lighten the atmosphere and to that end it was done with the best of intentions - to give everyone a laugh and to share a joke. It's a shame that it hasn't ended that way and has merely served to drive Mumsnet apart. So now it appears that the angry people want to accuse everyone else of being in a clique, being Mumsnet Royalty etc which is a pretty ancient insult. Whilst the rest are merely baffled at what the big deal is.

I am baffled.

I remember a great joke thread about someone whose dh wanted her to dress up as a cow during sex. The main joke was what all the other posters came out with. The comments are what makes those threads so funny. Perhaps if that thread was posted now, people would be angry because there really might be posters who dress up as cows and it's unfeminist and it could be alluding to domestic violence. It would fall flat now.

What has changed?

TheSecondComing Tue 22-Jan-13 13:12:27

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Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 13:12:36

Ehr nehr. Highly regulated entertainment sounds terribly gym shorts and prunes for breakfast sad

Isildur Tue 22-Jan-13 13:13:14

Yes, ThereAreNoBirdsHere , maybe we could make up a little guide, a self-help thing for those who suspect they might be in danger of taking things too seriously.

It could be called 'Po Goes to Po-Land, the Path to a Lighter Life'.

InNeatCognac Tue 22-Jan-13 13:13:58

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RandallPinkFloyd Tue 22-Jan-13 13:14:40

I don't think either side on this thread are looking great tbh.

I don't personally agree with the OP but there's some pretty nasty uncalled for stuff being said. I don't think anyone can deny that.

The cake thread wasn't particularly my thing but other people enjoyed it so I can't see the harm in all honesty.

I know the OP does bring a lot of this on herself but she has admitted several times that she genuinely lacks a sense of humour and does get fixated on things sometimes.

I can see why it winds some people up but rounding on one person like this is pretty uncomfortable to see. She might get on your nerves sometimes but she is a real person with real feelings.

Ill advised thread - yes undoubtedly, but there's no need for the nastiness. I don't go into relationships or MH much but from what I've seen the op is very caring and supportive to a lot of people.

Give her a break.

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:15:27

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frasersmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 13:15:37

well said randall

ThereAreNoBirdsHere Tue 22-Jan-13 13:15:41

Gym short are best toasted. Nicer with prune jam than whole prunes imo

frasersmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 13:17:07

how long before mnhq brings some sanity to this debate??? ..

Rhubarb A troll is someone who winds up for malicious purposes. Greensleeves was not out to wind up for malicious purposes.

But MNHQ guidelines say ...a troll is someone who poses as someone else in order to stir up trouble, deceive and mislead, or just to fulfil their own perverted agenda.

Surely you can see where the confusion about this has arisen? Greensleeves pretended to be someone else and posted a thread about a situation that doesn't exist.

If MNHQ say that's fine, then it's fine. But what's to stop a troll claiming that their thread was only meant to be a bit of a laugh? This is a grey area and I can see why some people are cross that the thread was allowed to stand.

Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 13:18:32

I don't think I have ever had prune jam. It must exist though mustn't it. A dark conserve for dark times.

LadyBeagleEyes Tue 22-Jan-13 13:19:17

MN really does seem to be drifting to the miserable and humourless these days.
I very rarely come on for advice and support, the couple of times I did I got it.
I come on for a laugh, and Greensleeves thread did just that.
I really think those with no SOH should avoid these type of threads.

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:19:55

Are prunes not just dried plums? Wouldn't it be plum jam?

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 13:20:16

I can see how OP is upset - cake is a serious thing, and a joke thread about throwing away perfectly good cake, unthinkable! It's offensive to us suffering people who haven't eaten cake in a while and would kill for some.

seeker Tue 22-Jan-13 13:20:41

Nowt wrong with joke threads, and letting them stand. My beef was with MNHQ apparently joining in. Which, as can be seen from their reply to me on that thread, they think they shouldn't have either. So all sorted, as far as I can see, and here's to the next one........

Good to see so many names from the past on here, by the way.

Flossiechops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:21:11

The rules also state that name changing in order to mislead is not allowed either. Mn knew the op had done this and yet it still stood. I really couldn't care less about the thread but what I don't like is that it implies that one rule applies to the clique of regulars and one rule to everybody else.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:21:30


WHY do you want other adults to come and tell you what to do?


TheSecondComing Tue 22-Jan-13 13:22:18

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THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:22:27

It's never been a grey area before Puddle. This is the first time there has been any sort of mayhem over a joke thread.

Most of the time Mumsnet governs itself and that's what I like about it. We are self-moderating. Most posters knew when a joke thread came around and those who didn't and got taken in, usually saw the funny side in the end when the poster came clean.

Under your definition they should have been banned, but nobody minded and we all shared a laugh and some classic threads were born.

It would be such a shame if that self-moderation were to end now and we were faced with rigid rules that did not allow for humour, community, shared jokes and fun.

It's a shame that some posters can't let this one be. I fail to see what harm it did and I fail to see why they would want Mumsnet to be so rigidly moderated.

As I said before, what on earth has changed?

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:22:39

I have never seen so many prissyknickers tightly bunched together in one place.

You'll all get thrush.

ThereAreNoBirdsHere Tue 22-Jan-13 13:23:22

One should always make their own prune jam. So sugar levels can be monutored.

Even in dark times one must regulate. (well unless you wash it all down with prune juice. It might all be to regular then)

Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 13:23:38

Loops but prunes are g&t plums aren't they, so prune jam would be plum jam +2 bowel power.

LadyBeagleEyes Tue 22-Jan-13 13:24:23

Flossie, you are allowed to namechange, if you want to talk about something and don't want to be recognised.
MNHQ believed that the Op was very controlling about cake, but it was hardly trolling.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:24:55

Flossie, if you were to change your name and start a joke thread it would be allowed to stand.

This is nothing to do with regulars.

This was an unspoken loophole that has stood for the past 12 years and in those 12 years many many posters have changed their names and posted joke threads and not one person has kicked up an almighty fuss about it before.

Regulars and non-regulars have all benefitted from the liberal attitude of MN and now that is under threat because of what?

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 22-Jan-13 13:24:58

(Can I just add, after TSC's post, that I have no idea what the OP's views on rape are, I'm just going on this thread and a couple of others I've seen.)

frasersmummy Tue 22-Jan-13 13:24:59


Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 13:25:37

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Rhubarb it's MNHQ's definition, not mine. I hadn't noticed the cake thread until I read this one so don't really care about it one way or the other - I'm just saying I can see why there seems to be some confusion about trolling threads as opposed to jokey threads.

As for what's changed, there have been a lot of troll threads over the last few months and I think people are more suspicious/on edge.

Viviennemary Tue 22-Jan-13 13:27:04

I was deceived and misled. Pulls up prissey knickers. grin

BitBewildered Tue 22-Jan-13 13:27:14

but if there is a rule in place that wind-up threads are not allowed then it should be used across the board and not just in an ad-hoc manner

I think the use of judgement is appropriate. I don't see why this can't be done on a thread-by-thread basis. I hope think that if it was a regular poster messing about and people started emotionally investing or being hurt, that the NC-ing OP would immediately make it clear that it was a joke thread. I suppose in this case she thought she was on safe ground, because it was about cake.

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 13:27:22

Rhubarb - absolutely. So why was the brilliant King Tut thread 'moderated', and indeed a whole heap of other hilarious, harmless threads? Why was the cake thread treated differently?

BIWI Tue 22-Jan-13 13:28:29

Please don't start the 'regulars' vs 'newbies' again.

ThereAreNoBirdsHere Tue 22-Jan-13 13:28:43

Ive just name changed and am now wittering on about prunes.

Can someone report me please.

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:29:15

Oh, TSC, you don't get it do you? The post that you 'reported' had me accusing s. of bullying behaviour, bot being a bully (not the same, criticise the behaviour not the person they say...). The second could admittedly be construed as a personal attack, but as it is there simply to highlight the difference between the way two phrases come across.
And why do you want people to stop reporting things? yet claim to have reported me

I'm not only taking issue with that one nasty post, but also the way that a group of posters tried to bully me after reporting it. It's just fucking nasty, and I'm surprised that you think it's OK.

Slubber Like raisin wine?

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Thumbwitch Tue 22-Jan-13 13:30:28

<<applauds Randall>>

Actually, on reflection, I was upset by the cake thread. I'm upset by the idea that someone could actually throw cake away because it isn't perfect. Whatever happened to scraping off the burnt bits and icing it or is that just me ?

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:32:37

FWIW I enjoyed the thread, saw no harm in it and think this is all silly apart from the fact that people got deleted for calling it a wind-up. And, obviously, the fact of the bitchy bullying behaviour on this thread.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:33:52

Puddle, that has been MNHQ's definition since they were forced to give such a definition. As I said, many many people join Mumnset because there are no strict and rigid rules in place. Posters, young and old, regular and lurkers are left pretty much to their own devices and I always liked to think we used a dollop of common sense where necessary. After all we are all grown ups and surely don't need to keep running to teacher when things don't go our way. And so arguments were settled between posters, jokes were widespread and everyone more or less just got on with it.

The joke threads were a bit of fun.

Satin, I didn't read the King Tut thread. I can only think of a handful, most involving sex but all of the joke threads were well received and if someone didn't get it, the OP apologised and it was all sorted out. There was none of this running to tell over each other. That just smacks of playground mentality and if posters have to go running to teacher all the time then yes, Mumsnet will have to enforce rules and become strictly moderated which will result in more deletions, more censorship and less fun.

I guess that must be what some posters want. They obviously can't be mature enough to solve the issue on the thread in question and want someone else to enforce the rules and solve it for them.

It's a damn shame.

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 13:34:00

It's not about namechanging and starting a genuine thread though is it? It's about namechanging for the purpose of winding up other posters, and it's moreso about the fact that MNHQ (whilst initially innocent in believing the OP had a genuine cake issue grin) went on to admit that they knew it was a winder-upper but did nothing about it.

Or something.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 22-Jan-13 13:34:54


Might be helpful to recap/clarify a few things, to start with.

First of all, as we have (blushingly) admitted on the orig thread, we didn't realise it was a windup. We received lots of reports asking us if the OP was a troll, saw it was Greensleeves, boggled a bit at her crappy baking skills and ranty mood, and then posted to reassure folks that she was a regular MNer and we sure she wasn't a troll.

We also then deleted some trollhunty posts. As we would do, in any situation where we believed a genuine poster was being called a troll.

We then left the thread to go on its merry way.

It was only later in the evening that we realised it was a wind-up.

If we'd realised it was a wind-up from the beginning, we wouldn't have posted. And would probably have replied to those reporting to say the OP wasn't a troll but we suspect it was a regular having a bit of a larf.

We are sorry for not being smart enough to have rumbled Greensleeves straightaway. And we're sorry some folks assumed from our post that we were somehow in on the act.

However, we really do think there is a massive difference between a light-hearted, non-malicious wind-up like this and a 'proper' trolling thread. As several posters have pointed out here, there was clearly no intention to be malicious or creepy/pervy/abusive, and no agenda to persuade people to divulge personal info/hand over money etc etc.

And yes, amillionyears, we have removed one phrase from the Talk Guidelines about trolls (the 'for the hell of it' bit) as we realised late last night that it could be misinterpreted as 'for a bit of a joke', when that's not what we meant at all. It was disingenuous of me not to mention that when I quoted the Guidelines on the orig thread this morning - and I do apologise for that.

There are probably some other points on this thread that we should answer. We'll have a look through now.

We'll also be deleting the personal attacks. Whatever your frustrations - and we can see there are plenty! - they're really not on.

booge Tue 22-Jan-13 13:35:33

I love a good joke thread and this one really cheered me up on what was a very stressful day. I was deceived too at first, brilliant.

An old favourite was one where the op was mrs Wottinger from the night garden.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:36:53

Mumsnet is often accused of changing for the worst.

It's not Mumsnet changing though, it's the people on the boards. The general attitude on Mumsnet has changed.

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 13:37:33

FWIW I couldn't care less about cake. I don't even eat cake, and I have loads of birds. I just don't like double standards which this seems to be.

If someone could tell me why the rules don't apply to the cake thread but they do to other threads then I'd stop banging on about it.

In fact, I'll stop banging on about it!

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:37:35

Helen, you have my unbounded admiration for not running at an oven and hurling your head in it.

Altho you were still wrong about the other thread and deletion and just hoped it would go away

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 22-Jan-13 13:38:56

Fair do's Helen, nothing else to say is there. smile

What Randall said at 13:14.

I don't mind a good wind-up thread. Have done a couple myself over the years and a bit of lighthearted fun is what makes MN.

I don't agree with amillionyears on this, but some of the comments on here aren't just skating on the edge of being a personal attack, they've fallen through the ice.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 13:40:39

I would try and explain iworshipsatin but I don't know and I am just reading this thread in amazement and eating chocolate.

I know that doesn't help but I thought you should know someone cares. A bit.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:41:27

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Mintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 13:41:28

Agree with you Rhubarb. But am not actually here as I flounced and really really meant it that time.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:42:09

yes that was funny mitnyyyyyyyyy

three days was it?

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:42:12

If people are still mad about that jokey thread, here's a classic one that I'm sure you will find offensive pirate noises during sex

I'm now going to relive some of Mumsnet's finest classic thread moments. I urge people to join me and leave this rather disappointing thread to float away ne'er to return.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:43:36

rhubs, every xmas we have a joke "mary" thread... BAN IT!

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 13:43:44

"the op was mrs Wottinger from the night garden."
oh god I so want to read that

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:43:52

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Mintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 13:44:58

Might have been a week. Anyway I'm really not here, had to come back and ask a techy question and then ...

Oh dear God. Look, MNHQ are queen and can do what they bloody well like. They own the site, not you and if they want to change their guidelines every hour on the hour then that is their prerogative. They don't owe posters anything nor should they be answerable to them. You didn't like the thread, tough titty. Get over it. But for the love of Pete stop bleating.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:45:36

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Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:46:28

Everyone is bullying me



LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 13:46:40

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TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:46:41

oh, and I suggest you read about bullying. because thats a pretty strong accusation to make, not to mention unfair.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:47:17

I might come round and bully every single one of you in a bit. What I will do is strip naked, visit each and every one of you at home, break in, raid your fridge and cover myself in the contents, do a crap on your birdtables (if you have one if not then I'll crap in your flowerpots) then I'll start to tickle you with the tail feathers of a dead peacock until you beg for mercy.

That, my friends, is proper bullying. If you are going to do something then DO IT PROPER

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:47:45

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TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:48:11

rhubs, wanna fight?


THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:49:09


Please take TrampPants and LoopHoop and bloody ban the pair of them will you? They are pissing me right off now.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:49:51


CheeseStrawWars Tue 22-Jan-13 13:50:35

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Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 13:50:58

Oh I didn't know you flounced Mintyy. I'm glad that you are still here in a post-flounce spectral state though smile

Loops, no like gifted and talented not gin and tonic.
Mm prune gin <ponders upon that>

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 13:53:05

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THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:53:24

I vaguely recall Mintyy's flounce. There have been some whopper flouncers haven't there? They should also go into classics. The ones where they publicly flounce and then are talked into coming back by their squillions of fans.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 13:54:37

Mintyy is always flouncing. And don't get me started on Rhubarb hmm grin

I don't think they're idiots though before you all start.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 13:55:15

Love a good flounce thread. One with grudges.

FloatyBeatie Tue 22-Jan-13 13:55:15

"A dark conserve for dark times."

I really like this phrase and I think it should be the austerity strapline for the conservatives (the only problem being that since they believe in less regulation rather than more I guess that prunes are not their thing).

Thumbwitch Tue 22-Jan-13 13:55:42

Hurrah for Helen! <<puts HelenMN up for Highest Diplomacy Award Available>>

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:56:30

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THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 13:56:33

Oh hang on!

HULLY you are a bit of an idiot.
MINTYY you are a bit of an idiot.
QUINT you are a bit of an idiot
SHINEY you are a whopper of an idiot
GREENSLEEVES you are a sum of an idiot

In fact - get this right - YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS!

Ahhh that takes me back to the very early days when my thread title was something like YOU ARE ALL MISERABLE COCK SUCKERS and not one person - not one - reported me.

Grown ups see? Well, apart from me with that thread title obviously grin

BIWI Tue 22-Jan-13 13:57:40

I shall report you for bullying me by leaving me out, Rhubs.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 13:57:40

mintyy, I'm v glad you havent gone. have you hidden AIBU?

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 13:58:57

That would be a good topic: Grudges.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 13:59:03

HULLY you are a bit of an idiot.
MINTYY you are a bit of an idiot.
QUINT you are a bit of an idiot
SHINEY you are a whopper of an idiot
GREENSLEEVES you are a sum of an idiot

grin grin

I shall, however, be reporting this post. As a personal attack on me. I am not a whopper of an idiot. Anyone who knows me personally will vouch for this fact.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 13:59:14

Can I take a moment to be smug that I got away with a Fuck you Hully when the rest of you got deleted?


TheSecondComing Tue 22-Jan-13 13:59:58

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Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:02:02

What on earth was Pag deleted for????

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:02:30

Fuck you HoneyDragon grin

Shiney you are a whopper of an idiot with some sprinklings of fool in there for good measure smile

BIWI it goes without saying dear that you are, of course, an idiot. smile

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 22-Jan-13 14:02:36


I am confused - with the cake eating thread MNHQ realised (after the fact) that it was a regular on a wind-up, admitted they were taken in by it, but then went on to seemingly endorse it and did not delete it.

Yet the King Tut thread, which was just as amusing (moreso in my opinion) and a lot of people had invested time and energy in, was just deleted without reaching the conclusion that the cake thread was allowed to reach.

(Yes I'm still bitter about the King Tut Denouement being snatched away from me!)

So, genuine question, what's the difference?

There is a difference here, we think.

The 'KingTut' threads were started by a newbie - who said she'd be on MN for a year. Which rang alarm bells with us at MNHQ. There wasn't just one thread full of silliness but thread after thread, pulling more and more posters in. We have no idea what the OP's intention was but, taking into account her lack of posting history, her clear attempt to deceive, and the fact that we know some trolls do specialise in spinning out a seemingly innocuous story over many threads, we thought it was right to delete.

With Greensleeves' thread, we knew who she was and we thought she was just ranting about cakes. We did not 'endorse' her thread, knowing it was a windup. We only realised it was a joke about the same time everyone else did.

And we haven't deleted it because it was a one-off wind-up and it was pretty funny. Even if it makes us at MNHQ look like twits.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:03:52

Bet I don't cocking well get deleted now.

MNHQ you are a bit of an idiot!

Delete me now. Please.

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THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:05:26

Heeeeeleeeeen - I called you all idiots. Are you not going to delete me? Oh go on, pretty please, you know you want to..........

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 14:06:51


You picked the wrong Mnetter to Fuck You, MNHQ will be agreeing wholeheartedly with you and let stand. grin

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:06:57

Pag was deleted for farting stale cake all over the thread and then eating it. It was deemed offensive to those who participate in this practice on a regular basis and also it was seen as a reference to abuse.

Poor Pag.

HecateWhoopass Tue 22-Jan-13 14:07:22

You know, you are all fighting about this fake cake thing. Meanwhile, I now have an actual cake catastrophe that is far more important. I made my husband take time out from work (he's been working from home due to the snow) to take me to the supermarket this morning, where he announced he was hungry, put a large lemon and walnut cake in the trolley and then when we packed the bags he made me leave it out of the bag so he could eat it when I went to the next shop.

I got into the car and said don't forget your cake, it's in the bottom of the trolley

I won't forget my cake, he said

We drive 5 minutes down the road and he says "where's my cake?"

[livid] [boggle] [baffled]

erm. It's probably in the bottom of the bloody trolley then. Isn't it?

But he wouldn't go back for it. hmm

I may have spent the next hour going on and on and on and on about how, in my many years of shopping, I have NEVER left something either in the trolley or at the checkout.

I blame MN for this. I don't quite know yet how it is your fault, but it is and I will work it out and come back to you later.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 22-Jan-13 14:07:59


Bet I don't cocking well get deleted now.

MNHQ you are a bit of an idiot!

Delete me now. Please.

Yes indeed we are. (And I bloody wrote an extended essay about Alfred the Sodding Great at uni.)

And no. Shan't.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:08:50

Ah, you shit face cock master. (Wow, shit face cock master)
Listen, you donkey raping shit eater (Donkey raping shit eater)
(Baby's voice) Donkey raping shit eater
You'd fuck your uncle. (You'd fuck your uncle)

Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker.
You're a cock-sucking, ass-licking uncle fucker.
You're an uncle fucker, yes it's true.
NOBODY fucks uncles quite like you.

Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker.
You're the one who fucked your uncle, uncle fucker.
You don't eat or sleep or mow the lawn, just fuck your uncle all day long.
- Farting and more laughter -

Traffic Cop: "What's going on here?"
- More farting -
"Ew, what garbage!"

Well, what do you expect there Canadian uncle fucker?
Uncle fucker. Uncle fucker. Uncle fucker.

Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker. (Uncle fucker.)
You're a boner-biting bastard uncle fucker.
You're an uncle fucker, I must say.
Well, you fucked your uncle yesterday!
Uncle fucker, that's U-N-C-L-E fuck you!
Uncle fucker ... ah ha ha Suck my balls!


VinegarTits Tue 22-Jan-13 14:09:04

can we have an idiots guide to mumsnet? for all the idiots?

FlouncingMintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 14:09:04

Who said I'm always flouncing? How very dare you.


I feel bullied. I am not on the idiot list.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 14:10:19

I didn't say you were always flouncing. Honest.

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 14:10:28

HelenMN - fair enough, thanks for the explanation

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:11:58

Hey guess what? I found a lemon and walnut cake in the bottom of my shopping trolley today.

I opened it, took a sniff, decided I didn't like it and smeared it all over a car that was parked in the parent and toddler section and which clearly only had a BOOSTER seat in there.

I then bought a sausage roll and fruit shoot to give to ds for lunch and backed out, hitting a disabled car on my way out but driving off before anyone saw me.

Good day all-in-all.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 14:12:20

I think Loops has also been right to point out that when an op is already wound to twanging point, its probably not best to wind further in case something snaps.

I never really recovered from the General Election when Hully finally snapped and shot everyone.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:12:34

<waits for deletion>

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:13:44

loops don't flounce!

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:14:23

balls, wrong bloody thread

fecking phone

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 14:14:31

I'm about to eat some birthday cake. It was my birthday yesterday. I'm halfway to 70.

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 14:14:58

I'm glad to see you Mintyy, love - does this mean you are unflouncified?

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 14:15:11

Let's have a grudge topic! I used to be awesome at Grudges! Since the memory got a bit rubbish, I'm not as good, but I'm sure I could muster something

I also think I should do a flounce. I did a break no one noticed but it was a bit lame. I want to do something more, pizzazzy

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 14:16:09

Was that a wind-up Rhubarb? hmm

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:16:11

Right thread.

Did I say Pinot was a bit of an idiot too? She is you know. She farts idiocy that one.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 14:16:36

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:17:10

What WERE the King Tut threads? <intrigued>

<ignores Honey>

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:17:20

<proud> grin

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 14:18:17

Talking of P&C parking it occurred to me today that they should have designated parking for people with elderly parents too. I had a helluva job getting mother out of the car at Sainsbury's today, could have really done with a bit more room.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:18:31

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THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:19:45

No Fenton, it really happened, just now. All of it.
Which bit is especially offensive, the mother and toddler parking? Hitting a disabled car and driving off or the Uncle Fecker song?

Or the fruit shoot and sausage roll?
Or the walnut cake?

Each would be considered offensive to someone and no joking would ever be allowed. Not ever.

Tantrums is an idiot by the way.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 14:19:50

<<ties Hullys shoes together>>

TuftyFinch Tue 22-Jan-13 14:19:58


ubik Tue 22-Jan-13 14:21:11

i think some of you take this site waaaaaay too seriously

it's just some stupid thread that got deleted. get over it.

shine0ncrazydiamond Tue 22-Jan-13 14:21:12

It's real sadness.

I'm always sad when someone flounces

And then I grin when they come back two days later

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:21:17

Fenton, I just bash the cars either side of me with my doors. Or smash the window and let the handbrake off.

When parking, do what the French do and just bash the car in front and behind until you fit neatly in the gap.

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 14:21:28

Pag got deleted on thta thread for swearing. MNHQ were so shocked that Paggy used the "c" word, they deleted it.

True story

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:23:03

Yes, Absy, but this is new Paggy. Paggy version 2.0.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:23:08

hey tifty

what floor did you get in the end?

LadyBeagleEyes Tue 22-Jan-13 14:23:09

Proud not to be an idiot grin.
I love the way Op talks to MN like she's a school teacher lecturing a group of teenagers on their behaviour.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:23:36

I might flounce for not being deleted.

It's not fair. Other posters get deleted. I think I'm being bullied.

That's it. I can't take any more. I've made some good friends on Mumsnet and I've always tried hard to be nice and kind and sensible and loving and caring and sensitive but obviously that's not enough is it? I feel my membership is untenable and I'm off. Don't make me stay now. It's too late. I'm deleting my membership.

Look at me going.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:23:38

I have never flounced. I may start.

or not.

TuftyFinch Tue 22-Jan-13 14:24:50

Hey Hilly
No floor
The floor saga continues. Got some lovely grey tiles though.
I'm about to ring a man about a floor.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:26:17

I got burglarmarised at the weekend.

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 14:26:30

Like it, Paggy 2.0. This time it's personal.

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 14:27:17

But you're all minimalist Hullz, what's there to steal?

TuftyFinch Tue 22-Jan-13 14:27:52

Oh Hilly! No way? Bastards! There's been a spate of it round here.
Are you all ok?

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:27:55

You did not Hully! Right, tell me who did it and I'll break their fecking legs.

Erm, once I've unflounced obviously blush

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 14:28:08

I have flounced zillions of times and deleted my account twice.

but I have no RL friends or life.

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:29:13

Hully? Really?

Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 14:29:20

Floaty, I can't for the life of me think of a single preserving-worthy product that would bind rather than regulate. Apart from pickled eggs of course but I don't think the Tories would be embracing that sort of thing as a by-line.

My favourite personal flounce was over frozen sandwiches. I will bear a grudge to the end of my days for the frozen sandwich mockery (single post) I endured.

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 14:29:30

Don't flounce Rhubarb

somebody had to say it, it was getting embarrassing

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 14:29:41

hully, did you? shock thats shit <understatement>

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 14:30:40

But TheRhubarb - flouncing, you're doing it wrong. You need to get yourself a nice thread going in Flouncer's Corner, PM people to come over and beg if you have to. Just announcing it here like this is just not right.

Then - delete account. Disappear for three days, then re-reg but with a butt next to your name (e.g. TheRhubarb3) while you beg MNHQ to give you your old name back. Then sneak into the rest of the boards looking sheepish.

TuftyFinch Tue 22-Jan-13 14:31:13

Did they leave foot prints in the snow? Shall I bring my magnifying glass and plaster of Paris round?

Allaquandry Tue 22-Jan-13 14:31:24

Rhubarb, you can't flounce without at least telling everyone where you stand on 9yo boys in the women's changing rooms at the swimming pool.

on their scrotes, heavily, with high heels, and out of sight of their mums is not the correct answer, by the way

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:32:18

I did. We are all fine. It's just a massive bore.

I want to say the whole story because it is quite bizarre but I can't.

It must have been one of their more disappointing attempts, I will say.

They are now caughted.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 14:32:47

they did indeed tifty, forensics man had special snow wax. it was very csi

IWorshipSatin Tue 22-Jan-13 14:34:05

Hully - King Tut thread was last week, the OP had a problem with her son's wife because they'd just had a baby and didn't want OP to throw a party for the newborn, nor had they allowed her to visit for long enough at the hospital with a party of other people. Just loads of ranting against the son's wife really, and a lot of entitlement over the baby because she was the grandmother. They also had a large wolf-like dog which OP took exception to as it just sat on a rug in the middle of the room doing nothing and being fed chews and patted 'like King Tut'

TuftyFinch Tue 22-Jan-13 14:34:17

I'm glad they are in the slammer. Bang to rights.
Will you tell me the whole story in camper? Over a cup of tea and a nice bin?

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:34:49

Gosh, Hully. How very rude of them.

You need Paggy as Detective again. I don't want to be a dinner lady though.

ExpatAl Tue 22-Jan-13 14:34:56

It's a bit rich to tell the OP to leave the issue alone but then hang around on her thread to say, in some instances, downright bitchy things to her. You might not think the OP raised an important point but there's no need to shut her up by ridiculing her.

Fenton Tue 22-Jan-13 14:35:04

That's good to hear that they've been got. Sorry it happened to you, it's ghastly - I was burgled when I lived alone with only my cat to worry about so not nearly as bad (I was a spinster cat lady then)

Poor love.

FlouncingMintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 14:36:12

Yes I appear to have been sucked back in Fenton my duck. Was this you and mother at the supermarket today?

TuftyFinch Tue 22-Jan-13 14:37:00

Pinot isn't it my turn to be detective? I've got cowboy boots and everything. It's not fair on me else wise.

Slubberdegullion Tue 22-Jan-13 14:37:12

Sorry to hear about the burgulars Hully.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:37:24

Allaquandry I am only coming out of my flounce to shit on your head. So there!

Now stop trying to tempt me back!

<Hully, that reminds me of poor Max. I never found him you know. They covered my house in white powder too (I tried it, it wasn't drugs), then left shaking their heads. Bastards.>

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:38:41

Yars, sorry Tufty. Captain Tufty <salutes> I shall be a hoor.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 14:38:43

<<feels bad>>

<<unties Hullys shoes>>

<<polishes then too>>

<<goes off to shit in Shinys slippers instead>>

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:40:46

bad puppy

TuftyFinch Tue 22-Jan-13 14:41:07

Well it's your choice Pinot so hoor away but wouldn't you rather be the grumpy/ sarcastic one at the front desk? You can wear a big red, curly wig and a dress.

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 14:44:07

grin I'm a redhead so yeah!

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:44:48

WHY HAVE SHINEY AND HULLY BEEN DELETED BUT I HAVE NOT? I have been waaaaaaaaaaaay more offensive than them!

Hully, PM me what you said so I can repeat it please. You too Shiney.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 14:48:30


YOU are a fuck up cunt arse shite bag

<<bet I get one before you>>

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:50:20

Oh yeah, well look at me parking in a mother and baby space

Anyway shut your mouth you smeg loving vomit muncher.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:52:39

MNHQ smell of poo.

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 14:52:40

THERhubarb was actually Mitmoo --> true fact.

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 22-Jan-13 14:54:54


Sorry to hear about the burglary, Hully

I know we've all moved on and are talking about <stares at thread>... things

But just wanted to say:

Please report
We love reports
We love reports about posts that you think are attacking you
We love reports about posts that you think are attacking other posters
We love reports about spam
We love reports about trolls
We love reports about trolls who turn out to be regulars

We just really do love reports.

<runs through a sun-dappled field holding hands with a report>

We do not think reporters are prefects, or sexually frustrated, or PO, or bored. We think they're people who like Mumsnet and want to keep it running reasonably smoothly, and see reporting as a way they can contribute to that.

Just wanted to get that on the record, really.

So, you know, to summarise: please report.

Thanks thanks

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:55:56

Mumsnet HQ, you so smell of poo
That when you speak
We all need the loo
No it's not your rules
Or that you are fools
It's just the scent of your farts
You daft old tarts

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:57:16

Rowan, you missed another O on that PO.

HoneyDragon is really Lavenderrrr. I'm reporting her.

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 14:58:03

Where did Helen go?

HoneyDragon Tue 22-Jan-13 14:59:41


May I suggest MNHQ make yours the quote of the week. grin

That was brilliant

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 15:19:23

Poor Hully!

That is rotten. I hope you didn't lose anything loved.
Did you exchange cop banter with the police in a blousey and knowing way?

amillionyears Tue 22-Jan-13 15:19:47

Thank you for your apology to me MNHQ, about being disingenious.

This is what large organisations have,as a poster said,"unspoken loopholes".

btw, I am still happy to help people if they want help,no matter if they were posting rude things to me.

BIWI Tue 22-Jan-13 15:24:28

Sorry to hear that, Hully sad. We were burgled last February and it's a horrible experience. Glad to hear they were caught, though.

Hully - were you burglars the ones caught by their footprints?

Can you be caught by the footprints? Would it be painful?

Greensleeves Tue 22-Jan-13 15:46:21

Anyone fancy a bun? Well you can't have one, they're mine going in the bin.

btw if anyone had started disclosing DV or other personal horrors I would have put a stop to it. but oddly enough, cake failure wasn't a triggering topic for most people. ffs.

See all the trouble you have caused madam wink

<eats cake>

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 15:59:56

<shits in Greeny's bun>

usualsuspect Tue 22-Jan-13 16:00:44

Nah, you don't come back all sheepish when you flounce, you just stride back in like nothings happened.

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 16:02:39

...with sidebollocks

BIWI Tue 22-Jan-13 16:05:22

Please don't let this put you off any future oeuvres, Greeny. thanks

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 16:05:42

After searching your name desperately every single hour to see if anyone is talking about you

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 22-Jan-13 16:05:58

I was triggered into shame. I have started 'managing DH's diet properly' blush

Only cuz he is a bit thick and I was sick off all the "So, can I eat curry then? Well what about Doritos? I've looked in the fridge and there is only plants, what can I eat? I'm allowed Chinese food aren't I? Well what about fish fingers? You didn't buy fish fingers. I can have fish fingers, with chips, chips are a vegetable aren't they?" etc. after his doctor told him he had seriously high blood pressure and he was not going live to see 40 at this rate.

I wrote him a meal plan, right down to giving him a list of 'allowed snacks' blush

I didn't post that on the thread because I was too blush.

And I spent so long laughing at the thread I forgot to defrost the chicken for his newly managed diet, so we had to have our usual Monday night takeout, which made the children sick, which is of course Greeny's fault.

I'm off to start a support group for all the people affected sad

FunnysInLaJardin Tue 22-Jan-13 16:09:19

well well well. I have nothing further to add

FunnysInLaJardin Tue 22-Jan-13 16:10:35

and I got deleted yesterday for calling someone totes bonk, which was quite troo acksherly

FunnysInLaJardin Tue 22-Jan-13 16:11:01

I did have something further to add as it turns out

I will join the "affected" group. I was actually feeling bad because I do not bake anything. I even said to me DH that I was going to start baking. He reminded me of when ds1 broke his tooth on one of my cakes

Greensleeves Tue 22-Jan-13 16:23:25

rhubarb shat in my elevenses sad

what was the Monday night takeaway Dooin? Was it nice? <lives vicariously>

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 22-Jan-13 16:25:18

Sweet and sour chicken balls with egg fried rice, the children insisted on having boiled rice, strange wee buggers, and spring rolls. T'was lovely. We're back to eating leaves again today sad

Greensleeves Tue 22-Jan-13 16:26:08

haha tantrums that reminds me of my sister, she went through a phase of "baking" when she was about 12

she was so earnest about it we had to eat everything she baked, even the one that was so hard my stepfather had to run it under the tap and use a chisel to get it out of the tin

my mother used to sing "Rock of ages, cleft for me, XXX's made a cake for tea"

Greensleeves Tue 22-Jan-13 16:27:12

I want egg fried rice! I could murder egg fried rice

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 22-Jan-13 16:30:14

I get free egg fried rice from work and now we can't even eat it sad

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 16:36:41

When ds2 first had too gluten and dairy free the boys used to look forlornly at my baked treats as if I were punishing them for something they didn't remember doing.

Ah Greenie. They always return to the scene of the crime <taps nose>

THERhubarb Tue 22-Jan-13 16:37:28

I'm doing egg fried rice for tea with sticky spare ribs.

I might do a thread on it later. About how dh stuck his head into the pan full of egg fried rice then ran around after the kids saying that maggots were eating his head.

Lots of people will be offended on behalf of the rice.

I shall then tell them all to fuck off.

Many more will cry bullying and flounce.

MNHQ will come on to try and calm things down but they will only make things worse.

Posters will take to the streets.

Outlets selling egg fried rice will be targeted and looted.

The police will have their cars set on fire.

More posters will march to London to demonstrate (whilst handing out biscuits)

MNHQ will release a statement appealing for calm.

Zombies will then materialise and eat everyone.

And it will all be Greeny's fault.

Stropzilla Tue 22-Jan-13 16:39:30

I thought cakegate was brilliant. Especially the geography teacher bit!

And I think we should be able to call people cunts.

Lordy, such a lot of fuss over a few imaginary buns.

I only come on mn for entertainment these days, so would be very disappointed to think fun is no longer allowed for fear of offending 0.00001% of the users

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 16:40:38

Paggy do you do GF for DS2 because of SN or stomach issues? I've been reading up on GF being helpful for ADD/ADHD. Wondered if you had any thoughts? I'm already GF (Coeliac) but moving DS2 onto it for a trial period soon.

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 16:43:14

I long to be deleted. I'm so lame, just one deletion. And I've been killing threads all over the place today


usualsuspect Tue 22-Jan-13 16:43:55

Cake gate reminded me of the old wind up threads on here, the pomander one was my favourite.

But there was a site invasion by a load of twats the night before so I thought the timing was a bit off.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 16:43:55

I started because he was eating about 5 foods and vomiting and screaming all the time.
Then we kept going because he slept (thank god) and became much calmer and stopped having stomach problems.
So both at the same time really.

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 22-Jan-13 16:45:02

Soz about the burglarization Hully, that's crap.

I got burgled once, it was utterly shit.

A pox on the bastards.

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 16:48:02

Thanks Pag

Greensleeves Tue 22-Jan-13 16:48:34

pomander also one of mine <preen>

but seriously... it does look like we just can't do jokey troll threads any more. I didn't realised how much things had changed until yesterday's shitstorm

Absy Tue 22-Jan-13 16:51:29

No more joke threads. No more fun. No more larks.

usualsuspect Tue 22-Jan-13 16:54:12

Things have changed, more deletions and many more trolls.

MN is a lot bigger and some newer posters don't really 'get' the jokey threads now. Due to all the trolling.

I had a sneaky feeling you were behind that thread, Greeny grin

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 16:55:57

It wasn't really a shitstorm though was it?

A couple of people said 'oh, not keen on jokey trolling' and one reason got in a right tiss. Most people were perfectly happy.
Mnhq were fine.

It's business as isn't it?

I am not keen on them but I would rather the majority were happy. The site shoudn't shift for the small minority should it. I'd feel very fed up if they were stopped just because they are not my thing.

Lynned Tue 22-Jan-13 16:56:12

Haven't read the whole thread ( looks crazy) But can't you let them have their cake and eat it? ( or has someone already said that?)

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 16:56:33

person not reason

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 16:57:59

Joke threads are v different to troll threads. Some people don't get that.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 16:58:53

Pag, exactly.

Pagwatch Tue 22-Jan-13 16:59:03

I should add that it made a massive difference to DS2 in terms of how calm and happy he was, especially in the first few years. It was def worth doing for him even though it was hard I manage initially.

"Disingenuous" MNHQ?

That's just rude. A non confession of culpability)

(Team Millions on that issue)

Pinot Tue 22-Jan-13 17:03:06

That's the thing, GF is a massive PITA. I hate it, but have to. DH is not keen <ahem> on my trialling DS2 but I just have a feeling that he may have 'my' gut issues too. Sod it, I'm doing it. I needed something to stop me faffing and anecdotal evidence of calmness is enough for me. Lordy, that would be nice, IYKWIM. Thanks thanks

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 22-Jan-13 17:15:28


"Disingenuous" MNHQ?

That's just rude. A non confession of culpability)

(Team Millions on that issue)

Well, it certainly wasn't meant to be rude.

Disingenuous means "not candid". Which was exactly what I was culpable of being. And what I apologised for.

I quoted our Talk Guidelines about trolls, without disclosing that they had been very slightly tweaked last night.

Hullygully Tue 22-Jan-13 17:17:35

Get yer ed in that oven, Helen

FloatyBeatie Tue 22-Jan-13 17:20:01

I thought it was a splendidly generous apology. I wish I had the nerve to say sorry more. It sometimes feels a v scary thing to do, a bit like draping yourself with meat in a lion enclosure.

That's how it read to me. And probably to OP too. Disingenuous on here, as you know, has a rather iffy context.
However, thanks for the clarification .

champagnesupernova Tue 22-Jan-13 17:36:42

Crikey. I have been away from MN for a bit and come back to see this.
I always miss the bunfights
For those who seem to be having problems with any changes
this might help

All this over the cake and lack of birds thread?!

I thought it was funny and wasn't offensive. Wish I had that sort of imagination grin

Maryz Tue 22-Jan-13 17:39:26

Bloody hell, this thread has deteriorated somewhat.

I presume by all the deletions that there is a competitive game of "I'm reporting you: no I'm reporting you first" going on.

Here Miss <sticks up hand> I'm telling on everyone. The are all being meeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaan to each other.

<channels 3 year old>

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 17:42:29

<Flicks ink pellet at maryz>

Maryz Tue 22-Jan-13 17:45:57

<sticks tongue out from behind teacher's skirt>


actually slightly envious to have missed it all, but sitting on my high horse anyway


TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 17:50:12

Slight diversion: how are you mary, I've not seen you for eons!

Jux Tue 22-Jan-13 17:50:27

Can MNHQ reinstate threads? I would love to see King Tut back too.

I really enjoyed Greensleeves' thread, it was hilarious. DD is currently chortling her way through it instead of doing something useful 'cos I'm a shit mum.

I tend to feel that it's "Buyer beware" on the internet, even here, and always have a pciture in my mind's eye of Dave the Hairy Handed Trucker (who yesterday burnt cakes beneath a birdless sky).

By the way, aren't penguins birds?

Maryz Tue 22-Jan-13 17:53:02

I'm sick as a dog Trampy.

Really dying, like or I might have a bit of a cold

I spent most of the last few days asleep shock.

And I'm trying not to spend too many hours here, new year resolution and all that smile. But I'm missing a lot.

SirSugar Tue 22-Jan-13 17:59:37

Has Godwins law been used yet?

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 18:03:08

Mary sad I've had it too, lasted a bloody fortnight! Hope you feel better soon, lovey.

FlouncingMintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 18:04:46

Who are you Trampy? Can you drop me a pm?

FlouncingMintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 18:05:59

And has that little thing gone which tells you how many times a thread has been liked on Facebook? I can't see it anywhere but can't imagine this isn't being discussed over there somewhere.

BIWI Tue 22-Jan-13 18:10:04

Facebook thingy top right of thread. So far, no-one seems to have clicked it, which is amazing.

Maryz Tue 22-Jan-13 18:10:36

Thanks, Trampy. I suspect I'll have it for a bit longer, I really feel bloody sad. All the kids have survived it, but I'm expecting dh to succomb very soon, and I'm sure he'll get it much worse than anyone hmm.

Mintyy, shouldn't you be UnflouncingMintyy?

I have that thing hidden, because I don't want to know what's being discussed on Facebook.

FlouncingMintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 18:12:34

No, I am in a permanent state of flouncing. I might flounce at the drop of hat wink. Sorry you are poorly chuck.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 18:13:19

Biwi, at zero for me too.

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 18:14:59

Mary, dh is just getting over it, he has been unbearable. I am shit with colds because of my ribs, but he was much iller than me and my dislodging ribcage...

TrampyPants Tue 22-Jan-13 18:15:31

And have pmed you mintyy grin

SandyMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 24-Jan-13 12:56:45

Sorry to hear about the coughs and colds <passes tissues> no, wait <hot mug of gin and lemon>

MammaTJ Mon 28-Jan-13 02:02:34

Even if it makes us at MNHQ look like twits

This is one of the reasons I love MN!!

Isabeller Tue 29-Jan-13 22:07:19

Rats, I was enjoying reading this thread till about page six and now I really want to eat some cake but I have sworn off sugar so I have to stop having fun and do some coughing (also have yukky cold but it is going away now thank goodness)

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