AIBU by not eeally undersranding the MNHQ Message Deleted message?

(54 Posts)
StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 19:50:46

"Replies may also be deleted".

I hactually think "resposnses" would be a better word.

StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 19:51:29

ffs

If it was hactually a word.

StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 19:52:05

AIB semantic?

<<muses>>

TheSecretCervixDNCOP Thu 27-Dec-12 19:53:18

Chaos are you necking on the christmas sherry again?

LineRunner Thu 27-Dec-12 19:58:37

[vodka more like]

ouryve Thu 27-Dec-12 19:59:51

I think you and MNHQ speak a different language, so it's probably understandable that you don't understand the MNHQ message. grin

RowanTheRedNosedMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 27-Dec-12 20:05:28

You're seriously complaining that we're not being clear enough? grin

StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 20:15:59

Well, um, yus.

[wrysmile]

RowanTheRedNosedMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 27-Dec-12 20:18:06

OK <takes bait>

What's the difference between a 'reply' and a 'response', and why would the second be better? (Disclaimer: I may be being thick)

(Further disclaimer: given the size of Tech's to-do list, this conversation in almost certainly academic in more than one sense)

LineRunner Thu 27-Dec-12 20:20:30

<lurks, watching, with Cava>

RowanTheRedNosedMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 27-Dec-12 20:21:56

Apologies if I sound a bit intense blush This is the closest I've got to a proper non-Christmas-based conversation in about a week

LineRunner Thu 27-Dec-12 20:30:03

It's the Chaos Factor.

TheSecretCervixDNCOP Thu 27-Dec-12 20:32:04

Arf Linerunner

StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 20:49:03

Well, a reply would be to a qiestion.

A respnse could be a fuck off you trill comment to a goader.

Disclaimer: I think. wink

'sall abaht the finesse, Rowan.

StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 20:49:49

Alopogies to Trills.

blush

RowanTheRedNosedMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 27-Dec-12 20:53:53

Oh I see, yes. That is a nice distinction.

<strokes beard>

LineRunner Thu 27-Dec-12 20:56:13

So Chaos is it

reply = nicey nice

response = fucky fuck

?

StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 21:05:18

Ach, LineRunner, nope - way too simplistic.

I reckon, a reply is to a question and a response doesnt have to be.

So if someone said "get thee out of town" which I'm suee HQ would love to a knobby pist, then that would be a respobe to be deleted, not a reply, yus?

youngermother1 Thu 27-Dec-12 21:09:57

I think Chaos meant:
reply can only be used if it was in response to a question, whilst you can respond, but not reply, to a comment.
Therefore if the initial deleted item was a comment, no-one can reply to it, so the 'message deleted message' would suggest anyone responding to it would not be deleted. However, responders are deleted as MNHQ have unilaterally decided to change the meaning of the English language and mark them as repliers.

LineRunner Thu 27-Dec-12 21:11:51

Ooooh.

Suddenly I see (in the words of K T Tungsten)

Hassled Thu 27-Dec-12 21:13:46

Chaos - much as I love you, you're as wrong as a big bag of wrong things.

Nutter posts "AIBU to think that people who step on the lines on the pavement should be shot?"
Hassled posts "YABU. You're an idiot"

I am both replying to the question (is she BU?) and responding to her twattery. What are MNHQ meant to do with that?

MNHQ should just say "and any more of your backchat and you'll be deleted young lady/laddie."

with a stern face smilie.

MaryChristmaZEverybody Thu 27-Dec-12 21:18:41

See, I think it should say "Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our talk guidelines, if any of you fuckwits try to repeat bits of the deleted message you will be deleted as well".

Because that's what they mean.

MaryChristmaZEverybody Thu 27-Dec-12 21:19:32

Hassled. You need that as two posts.

1. YABU

2. You're an idiot.

They will only delete message no 2.

youngermother1 Thu 27-Dec-12 21:29:59

Mary - if we are being pedantic (and I think we are), I think you mean 'your messages will be deleted as well'.

Unless MNHQ employ a hit(wo)man

LineRunner Thu 27-Dec-12 21:31:51

No we are being semantic.

Hassled Thu 27-Dec-12 21:33:11

grin

RowanTheRedNosedMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 27-Dec-12 21:33:28

Yeah, Maryz is right - that's the situation the wording is meant to deal with

youngermother1 Thu 27-Dec-12 21:40:31

But message 2 is a response, not a reply - so though you say you will delete replies, you actually only delete responses and leave replies alone.
You should do what you say and delete message 1 only.

StNiChaolas Thu 27-Dec-12 21:41:35

WHAAAT?

EmZed is right?

Hold on a duckfeathering minute...

[grr]

MaryChristmaZEverybody Thu 27-Dec-12 22:05:20

arf, younger. I'm sure they would like to delete some of us grin

Thanks Rowan <preens> It took me a while to work it out, but I get it now.

We have to be very careful to say "your posts make you sound like a fuckwit, though I'm sure you don't mean to be" or summat.

Pah, semantic, pedantic, same difference <sticks tongue out at everyone>

youngermother1 Fri 28-Dec-12 00:48:36

I think we are probably being pedantic over semantics.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 10:33:44

youngermother1

I think we are probably being pedantic over semantics.

Yes, you blooming well are! Tsk, you lot...

By 'replies', we mean a reply to a (subsequently) deleted post.

So, if I post: "RowanMumsnet, you are a cow"...

... And RebeccaMumsnet replies: "I agree with HelenMumsnet: RowanMumsnet, you are a total cow" or even "Oi HelenMumsnet, what do you mean: RowanMumsnet is a cow?"

...We may well delete RebeccaMumsnet's post as well as HelenMumsnet's post because RebeccaMumsnet's post is repeating the personal attack that HelenMumsnet is making (and which gets her post deleted).

Def a reply situation, IMO <chief MNHQ pedant>

FivesGoldNorks Fri 28-Dec-12 10:36:38

So rowanmumsnet is a cow?

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 10:38:04

FivesGoldNorks

So rowanmumsnet is a cow?

Only hypothetically <stern look>

FivesGoldNorks Fri 28-Dec-12 10:39:40

Ok so that's a yes
Am ieven close to getting banned?

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 10:42:22

FivesGoldNorks

Ok so that's a yes
Am ieven close to getting banned?

It can always be arranged...

SantasNaughtySack Fri 28-Dec-12 10:43:44

How about 'quotations may also be deleted'?
<massages temples>

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 10:44:56

SantasNaughtySack

How about 'quotations may also be deleted'?
<massages temples>

Ah but then some smart alec will wind us up by posting "To be or not to be" all over the shop...

JenFrankincenseAndMyrrh Fri 28-Dec-12 11:00:43

Repeating nortyness will be deleted?

youngermother1 Fri 28-Dec-12 12:09:37

My chambers has reply as 'to say in answer'. If there is no question in the deleted post,how can a response be a reply?

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 13:23:59

youngermother1

My chambers has reply as 'to say in answer'. If there is no question in the deleted post,how can a response be a reply?

In the same way as if you said, "Lovely weather we're having" and I replied, "Wonderful for ducks."

I believe the key thing is that it's a response/reaction to a previous statement or action, rather than something entirely unconnected.

You can reply to a letter or an email, for example. Or reply with gunfire. In either case, no questions need to have been asked.

MaryChristmaZEverybody Fri 28-Dec-12 13:28:01

No, no Helen, much as I hate to be pedantic, you didn't reply "wonderful for ducks", you responded "wonderful for ducks".

I think.

[baffled]

But gunfire would be quicker, when it comes to some of the threads.

lougle Fri 28-Dec-12 13:39:39

Can we agree on 'posts'? Covers a multitude of scenarios...

StNiChaolas Fri 28-Dec-12 13:44:51

<<sits backs and observes, grinningly, from a safe distance>>

AViewfromtheFridge Fri 28-Dec-12 14:03:02

But the whole idea is that it's a conversation, when you would talk about people replying to something that you said.

lougle Fri 28-Dec-12 14:52:45

mmm, I think Helen ^ retorted^, personally.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 15:02:45

MaryChristmaZEverybody

No, no Helen, much as I hate to be pedantic, you didn't reply "wonderful for ducks", you responded "wonderful for ducks".

I think.

[baffled]

But gunfire would be quicker, when it comes to some of the threads.

Reply and respond are synonyms.

<cocks rifle>

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 15:03:26

AViewfromtheFridge

But the whole idea is that it's a conversation, when you would talk about people replying to something that you said.

Indeed. <hugs AViewfromtheFridge gratefully>

StNiChaolas Fri 28-Dec-12 16:55:06

I never get hugs from HQ.

<<sobs>>

StNiChaolas Fri 28-Dec-12 16:55:49

And I'm in soft plat hell.

<<piles it on>>

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 28-Dec-12 17:22:48

StNiChaolas

And I'm in soft plat hell.

<<piles it on>>

<big hug>

Is soft plat hell what you get if you're trying to tidy up your girl's freshly washed hair? <mother of boys>

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Fri 28-Dec-12 19:35:05

Chaos my lovely, you slay me! grin
I get what you mean midear, but I'm not sure you are correct!
Wiktionary says:
A reply is a statement or acknowledgment made in response to an interrogative question, request or comment.[1] Replies are communicated in a variety of ways, the most common being spoken or written, and act as a way of conveying relevant information and continuing a conversational exchange.

*Response: 1.An answer or reply, or something in the nature of an answer or reply.
2.The act of responding or replying; reply: as, to speak in response to a question*
They both mean the same thing.

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Fri 28-Dec-12 19:35:45

Personally, I love Maryz's reply! grin

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