BBC Radio 4 Woman's Hour Power List - which women should be nominated for their impact on family life?

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JaneGMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 15-Nov-12 09:19:45

Hello everyone,

Justine has been asked by BBC Radio 4 Woman's Hour to talk about their Power List, which will be a list to celebrate the achievements of the 100 most powerful women in the UK, nominated by listeners. The interview will be aired on Tuesday 20 November.

The list will be announced by Woman's Hour in early 2013 - further information about the list, the judging panel and how to nominate here:

They'd like to know who we think are the pick of influential women who shape family life - childcare experts, popular educationalists, lifestyle figures, opinion formers, bloggers, pressure groups, doctors, midwives etc. They're looking for women who have the biggest impact on our economy, society, politics and culture, and the ability to inspire change as a role model or a thinker.

Who do you think should be nominated?

Thanks very much for your help,


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MrsDeVere Thu 15-Nov-12 10:12:07

Doreen Lawrence.

As a bereave mother myself, I am in total awe of her iron will and determination to get justice for her son.

She is honest with an integrity we should all strive for <take note Cameron and crew>.
She has refused to allow the media to pigeon-hole her as a tragic heroine and has always remained adamant that she would hand back every accolade if she could only have her boy back.

She has changed our justice system.

I am sorry Doreen, because I suspect this would make you uncomfortable, but you are my hero.

TheBlackShiksa Thu 15-Nov-12 10:44:10

I second Doreen Lawrence, such an inspirational woman. She's changed this country through her tireless campaigning for the better. Amazing woman

TheMysteryCat Thu 15-Nov-12 11:16:43

I don't always agree with her, but Yvette cooper is a very strong voice on the impact of austerity on women's lives and the knock on impact to family life and employment. She is a welcome and somewhat lone parliamentary voice on this.

peasabovesticks Thu 15-Nov-12 11:17:17

Baroness Susan Greenfield.

LadyMaryChristmas Thu 15-Nov-12 11:26:51

MNHQ do a splendid job. thanks wine

Malala Yousufzai. For obvious reasons that she's brave, determined. But also that it has raised awareness of girls not getting an education.

Me and the DCs discuss education, why some people are against this and all sorts of tangents therein, geography, politics (very basic)...

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt Thu 15-Nov-12 16:36:32

I will have to have a think.

I've been really enjoying Woman's Hour this week.

coribells Thu 15-Nov-12 17:03:06

I second Justine and Carrie for creating Mumsnet, and therefor impacting on family life

lionheart Thu 15-Nov-12 17:47:40

Helena Kennedy QC

FOURBOYSUNDER6 Thu 15-Nov-12 18:27:11

Fiorella Nash
Feminist pro life campaigner
She is a truly courageous and inspirational woman

Declutterbug Thu 15-Nov-12 19:23:13

Naomi Stadlen for her amazing empowering book

RTchoke Thu 15-Nov-12 20:08:14

I read this thread and thought I'd like to suggest someone from politics, someone who has campaigned around issues to help families: child care, community services, early intervention, education - something like that. Sadly I'm struggling to think of one woman in Parliament who I know has led challenges on these issues. I am sad that there isn't a stand out politician.

thezoobmeister Thu 15-Nov-12 20:21:32

Sheila Kitzinger for putting choice in childbirth on the agenda, and speaking up to ensure that pregnant and labouring women are treated with the respect they deserve.

Also second Doreen Lawrence. And Justine and Carrie! If wasn't for them we would never have had a MN election ...

peasabovesticks Thu 15-Nov-12 20:31:53

Oh, and also Camila Batmanghelidge.

BelleDameSousMistletoe Thu 15-Nov-12 20:40:09

Also vote for camila batmanghelidjh.

If we were allowed historical would go for Marie Stopes...

ninjasquirrel Thu 15-Nov-12 20:44:32

I'm not sure whether they're interested in women who have made a difference in society generally or whether it has to just be about impact on 'family life' - which seems a bit of a restriction on what women are recognised for. But my current heroine is Karyn McCluskey who headed up an initiative that cut violent gang crime in Glasgow dramatically - certainly that saved a lot of families a lot of misery.

Kahlua4me Thu 15-Nov-12 21:30:15

Doreen Lawrence would be the main one that stands out for me.

Limelight Thu 15-Nov-12 23:47:10

Margaret Mizen. I live near to where her son was murdered and I can't tell you how strong a presence her family have here. And for good, honourable, positive reasons. I'm not religious, but to be able to forgive, and to try and bring about change in the way that she has is remarkable. i

SkaterGrrrrl Fri 16-Nov-12 03:56:36

Caitlin Moran for giving feminism a shot in the arm.

mcmooncup Fri 16-Nov-12 09:03:56

Another vote for Camila from Kids Company.
She is a voice of reason amongst so much bullshit. Her values, passion and integrity always shine through. And she changes lives. Amazing woman.

zipzap Fri 16-Nov-12 11:58:19

another vote for Justine and Carrie. Without them my house would be much cleaner and tidier, my washing would be done sooner, I would get to bed earlier and supper would be cooked in time grin On the other hand, dc would have a mum who had gone batty from lack of adult contact (dh is great but it's good to have more than one person to talk to!) and who has been calmed by reassurance and advice from others on MN when needed (often at odd hours of the day and night). Overall, I think family life is definitely better as a result of MN!

thekitchenfairy Fri 16-Nov-12 14:52:34

Doreen Lawrence, without a doubt. There are too many 'my way' mummies and family experts with salaries, lifestyles and support that is so far removed from daily life that I wonder what reason they have to consider themselves either expert or influential in the first place.

I have to second Carrie and Justine, too. MN has given us all a voice and support in our choices, whatever they are and for whatever reason we make them. The path of motherhood can be confusing, isolating and lonely: MN keeps us feeling like we belong and we matter when so much about motherhood is confusing and nerve-shaking; and that is vital to family life, esp in the first year of adjustment. It really is the most amazing and powerful community and you don't have to look long at the talk pages to see the support it offers in desperate times and the genuine empathy from people who have never met always staggers me. I recommend its brilliant support to every new mum-to-be and I am sure I am not the only MNer to do so!!

ExitPursuedByABrrrrrrr Fri 16-Nov-12 16:22:15

Another vote for Sheila Kitzinger

And for Justine and Carrie. - everything that zipzap said, and double underlined!

ThePathanKhansWitch Fri 16-Nov-12 17:54:03

Carmel Maconnell, founder of The Magic Breakfast Club. Feeding hungry kids.Amazing woman, re-mortgaged her own house to start this.

Yy to Camilia B.

babybarrister Fri 16-Nov-12 19:13:25

Baroness Hale, shami chakrabati, mrs justice Lucy theis and shirin ebadi - spot the lawyer!

doyouwantfrieswiththat Fri 16-Nov-12 20:05:13

Helen Glover and Heather Stanning - fantastic role models for girls.

FOURBOYSUNDER6 Fri 16-Nov-12 20:55:32

Oh yes definitely another vote for Sheila k !!!!! I thank her for my amazing labour confidence !

mummeeee Fri 16-Nov-12 21:21:00

Another vote for Shami Chakrabati

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 16-Nov-12 22:15:04

I would vote for Justine and Carrie too and MN as a whole. They give normal woman a voice. Without MN and really the influence of it's founders ie allowing proper full and frank discussion without censor, I would feel very bereft.

J K Rowling is a good candidate, her books inspired thousands of children to "get" the joy of reading.

snapespeare Sat 17-Nov-12 09:16:07

I nominated camila batmanghelidjh. It has been my immense privilege to meet her on a number of occasions through work and she is an absolute beacon of hope for children and young adults.

OctoberOctober Sat 17-Nov-12 16:04:26

Natalie Gamble - lawyer specializing in lesbian family law including parental rights.

Carmel McConnell - hugely inspirational for her work with Magic Breakfast.

happyherdwick Sat 17-Nov-12 18:12:38

Jenny Murray!! I love her interviewing style,she is compassionate and full of gentle humour and I think Woman's Hour does a lot for women's issues

CanonFodder Sat 17-Nov-12 19:58:05

Another one for Carmel MCconnell. I had never heard of camila batmanghelidjh but she sounds like she deserves a vote too!

Portofino Sat 17-Nov-12 23:52:36

Helena Kennedy

Seabright Sun 18-Nov-12 13:32:49

Lady Justice Butler Sloss. She was President of the Family Division of the High Court and often had to make difficult and heart-breaking decisions. Her decisions and reasoning were always fair and clear and shaped some of the most difficult aspect of family law/right to life etc

Queen Noor of Jordan. She and her DIL (current Queen) are progressive women in the Arab world.

crochetcircle Sun 18-Nov-12 21:51:15

Jennifer Fear, CEO of Step Forward charity in Tower Hamlets. She runs an innovative charity that provides counselling, personal development, healthcare services and family and LGBT support services for young people in the borough. I've seen the great work she has done first hand, and its amazing the number of young people that have been helped by her work.

Vijac Sun 18-Nov-12 21:54:51

Helen Fielding, Monica Ali, J K Rowling and Julia Donaldson. There may be a little theme in my list.

OatyBeatie Mon 19-Nov-12 08:06:13

Just wanted to mention that although this thread is specifically about impact on "family life" (presumably because that's what Jusstine was asked to talk about) that isn't what the Women's Hour power list itself focuses on -- it's about impact generally. It's worth mentioning that because it would be a shame if the list got too skewed towards presenting women in their domestic light.

I nominated Onora O'Neill -- influential philosopher (both intellectually and institutionally) in a very male dominated discipline, and new leader of the Equalities Commission.

OatyBeatie Mon 19-Nov-12 08:11:12

I guess that like all of these top 100 type things, the list is going to be skewed by who can raise the most online attention. It's good to think also of influential women who aren't necessarily at the forefront of social media.

peasabovesticks Mon 19-Nov-12 10:22:34

I would also like to nominate Pauline Clare. She was the first ever female Chief Constable. She is a wonderful woman who achieved an incredible 'first.'

Blu Mon 19-Nov-12 10:44:56

Malala Yousufzai - for standing up for education, and not being daunted by religious and cultural pressure. Nor letting youth stand in her way.

Jenny Sealey - co-director of the operning ceremony of the Paralympics - working mother, deaf woman - doing it all, running an award winning theatre company, and doing it on her own terms with co-operation, humour, committment to diversity of all kinds.

OatyBeatie Mon 19-Nov-12 13:09:26

Another key woman philosopher who has been impactful over a long period is Mary Warnock, quite significant in academe and very influential in matters of public policy connected with medical ethics and research ethics.

It would be brilliant to raise the profile of women philosophers because philosophy is lagging behind in terms of numbers of women involved, and the new generation of media philosophers all seem to be blimmin men.

JaneGMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 12-Feb-13 09:17:03

Good morning,

Woman's Hour have announced their Power List of the 100 most powerful women in the UK today, and rather excitingly, entry number 7 is Justine Roberts & Carrie Longton!

Take a look at the list and listen to the Woman's Hour Live Edition discussing the Power List at 10am today by clicking on this link.

What do you think - do you agree with the 100?



MmeLindor Tue 12-Feb-13 09:38:34

Congratulations to Carrie and Justine, and the entire MNHQ team. I was really pleased to see that they were included on that list, as I feel they are a proxy for us 'ordinary' women.

Mumsnet has given us a voice, and has made others listen to us. We are most powerful when we speak as one, as we did on the miscarriage campaign or the We Believe You campaign.

flowers and wine for you all. Thank you.

MarshaBrady Tue 12-Feb-13 09:39:37

That's great, well done!

girlpilot Tue 12-Feb-13 09:41:05

Congratulations to Carrie and Justine!
I don't think that many of the entries are that much of a surprise, HM the Queen was always going to be No.1.

(Does anyone else find the 'alphabet by first name' really annoying? )

Maryz Tue 12-Feb-13 10:21:47

I'm just marking my place to have a proper look later.

That looks like a really varied and interesting list. And congrats to J&C.

Congrats to Justine and Carrie thanks

A few thoughts .... firstly I'd like to see more familiar faces on there ... broadcasters, comedians those sort of women - I think they're very influential.
So, Jo Brand, Miranda, Dawn French ?

Secondly Justine and Carrie are two people not one ... even if they are blood sisters !

Thirdly ... I'm sure Camila B has done some great work with Kids Company but when I was a young teacher working in an inner city school I felt she could have been more welcoming and supportive - as I would have liked to engage more with the project that was visiting our school.

GetOrf Tue 12-Feb-13 10:49:20

Congratulations to Justine and Carrie - well done.

ouryve Tue 12-Feb-13 11:03:16

Congratulations, Carrie and Justine!

I'm a bit worried that Teresa May is No2, though. Scary woman.

belleat40 Tue 12-Feb-13 12:16:12

Congratulations to Carrie and Justine.
Can't help thinking it's a list that's lacking in ethnic diversity though.

R4 Tue 12-Feb-13 12:20:26

A few thoughts .... firstly I'd like to see more familiar faces on there ... broadcasters, comedians those sort of women - I think they're very influential.

But it wasn't about influence, it was about power. Hence no Kate Middleton, but top spot goes to HMQ.

Congrats to Carrie and Justine.

Kveta Tue 12-Feb-13 12:48:30

Congrats to Justine and Carrie smile

GetOrf Tue 12-Feb-13 14:02:47

God only knows how Sarah Millican got on there. In what world is she powerful? Other than in the world of terrible haircuts.

IAmSheWhoMustBeObeyed Tue 12-Feb-13 14:19:11

Congratulations! thanks and wine

What an inspiring list. I know hardly any of them but having clicked on a few to read the profiles I feel very proud and inspired. I also feel strengthened in my determination to have short, uncoloured hair grin

Tee2072 Tue 12-Feb-13 14:58:25

Congratulations Ladies! flowers wine [gin]

Fowey123 Tue 12-Feb-13 15:42:12

JK Rowling and Doreen Lawrence definitely should be on list.

Tee2072 Tue 12-Feb-13 17:35:13

confused JK Rowling is on the list. At 13.

ElectricSheep Tue 12-Feb-13 19:40:33

Where is Shirley Williams? Did I miss her?

There aren't any other women that I'm aware of alive that are founders of a national political party. sad

And where is Diane Abbott? Love her or hate her, she surely is quite powerful?

myalias Tue 12-Feb-13 20:19:15

I agree with GetOrf Sarah Millican!!! Should have been Sara Payne MBE.
Congratulations to Justine and Carrie thanks

Meglet Tue 12-Feb-13 20:34:14

Well done Carrie and Justine smile. A well deserved place in the Top 10.

I've been going through the list as I only know a handful of names and am staggered by the number of 1sts in there. 1st female Chief Medical Officer, 1st woman to sit on Britains Supreme Court, 1st female CEO of Royal Mail, 1st woman to run a major British bank...etc
Most of the appointments seem to have happend post the year 2000 also. It just goes to show how long a struggle women have had to raise themselves into positions of power.

FloatyBeatie Wed 13-Feb-13 10:54:24

The number of "firsts" on the list is a very interesting point, Wolf. It suggests that (for the purposes of this list) the power of those women is constituted, not in the actual exercise of their expertise, but in their having broken through a constraint. And that in turn is constraining for successful women: they are defined in terms of their exceptionality and (despite themselves) they often are used to suggest that a definitive kind of progress for women has been achieved, when in fact all that has happened is that an aberration has occurred. Thatcher, for example, as the first woman prime minister: her success suggested a momentous breakthrough for women, but then we reverted to the male politics that we had never really left.

The list is interesting, and it seems to have been compiled with much more care and thought than most media "top 100" type lists. But, as its creaters have said, I think, its interest lies in its being a stimulus to what should be a massive discussion about women and power, and about the continuing lack of power for women

Where is Prof Tanya Byron on the list

YesAnastasia Wed 13-Feb-13 15:14:54

I think Victoria Beckham is great and I'm so glad she's on there. I used to be 'meh' about her until she (almost?) fainted at a photo shoot/launch thing and revealed how tired she was with a new baby, big family, job etc & I thought about her then. She's actually amazing if you stop to think about her.

I'm also happy about Shami Chakrabati - I'm a bit of a fan of hers and was so pleased to see her being honoured at the olympics.

Yay for Justine & Carrie - this place had some awesome power and it makes me proud smile

cocoachannel Wed 13-Feb-13 20:06:36

Caught up with the podcast on commute today? Very pleased for all at MNHQ, and indeed proud of most all MNers. I think we should all reflect on some of the judges' comments, ESP. that about supporting each others' choices (eg. SAHM, v. WOHM). Must admit to hanging my head a bit on that one, as quick to rise to the bait in 'those' threads.

Congratulations Justine & Carrie thanks

ReindeerBollocks Wed 13-Feb-13 22:39:44

Congrats Justine and Carrie thanks

It's a shame Doreen Lawrence wasn't recognised, the whole Lawreence family has suffered in the worst way possible and still fought one hell of a battle to get justice for her son. Ditto Sara Payne.

Not a huge fan of Shami Chakrabati- whilst I recognise that she has done some very commendable things, and is great lobbying for Human rights she isn't afraid to step on anyone - including other HR lawyers.

"But it wasn't about influence it was about power" - aren't the two linked somewhat ?!

I feel I'm quite a well informed woman and there were quite a lot of women there that I don't recognise. Obviously to me it feels there's something not quite right there.

I like Shami Chakrabati a lot, from what I've heard her say.

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