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Troll hunting

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Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 18-Nov-09 19:21:20  
As troll hunting season seems to be upon us once more and MNHQ have tried several times to outline their troll policy over the years I've been here and it has had little affect. Is there a way that troll hunting can be discouraged?

on threads like this where someone name changes to accuse OP of trolling.

This seems wrong because:
a) if the OP is trolling then surely there is no harm caused. They are not asking for people's money or contacting people offline (afaik)

b) if the OP isn't trolling there is a great deal of upset caused to them.

c) the only reason for calling 'troll' seems to be that their posting style seems familiar to one or two mners.

It seems that trolling accusations are now being thrown at people who have been round a while posting, not just newbies.

Also while I appreciate some trolls do cause posters a lot of upset and problems (I have seen a few) these are rare and tend to be more obvious than a thread on a sensitive asking purely for advice and nothing else.

Plus as MNHQ are unlikely to be able to tell if someone is trolling unless extreme and repeated. And even then not 100%

Would it be a good idea to have a policy of deleting posts crying troll? They cause upset and are offensive to those accused at difficult times. Any serious concerns re trolling can still be reported to MNHQ via the report this post function.

It seems that asking people to stop doing it isn't having any affect and I for one think it is damaging MN because it does put people, especially newbies off posting for advice on serious issues.

Anyone else got a view.
If I suspect a troll I just contact MNHQ and leave it to them to decide rather than shouting troll. I think that naming and shaming just spoils a thread that might also contain useful information and support for others. Having said that there have been some truly horrible trolls recently.
You can't stop people being sceptical, especially when MNHQ can't actually tell most of the time. The Troll Policy clearly doesn't prevent trolls, so that's why people still end up saying what they think sometimes. As long as it doesn't get abusive, I think most posters are quite able to shrug off the odd troll accusation if they are genuine. Some of the most prolific trolls actually start threads slagging off troll-hunters, so there you go grin
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 18-Nov-09 19:38:06  
I've not been on here long, but have come across quite a few shouts of 'troll' on threads. I wouldn't do it myself, if I don't find a thread believable I just ignore it.

I haven't come across any nasty troll posting though (that I'm aware of) so may just be a bit naive about this all.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 18-Nov-09 19:45:25  
I never recognise posters posting styles etc ..if I think someones trolling I just think 'yeah right' and move along ...the troll hunters get on my nerves tho
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 18-Nov-09 19:45:39  
You can't stop people being sceptical, no but you can report things to MNHQ. And no they can't always tell but they can keep an eye on the situation.

I disagree that most people are just able to shrug it off. It is easy to get upset especially if you are already in a bad situation.

And what exactly is the point of doing it? There seems to be no upside but plenty of downsides.

Plus it does put people off posting. They get worried about being accused of trolling and can't face it. That is appalling imo.

Yes there have been serious trolls but now anyone and everyone is accused on little or no grounds. Even on the grounds of not responding to a thread quick enough hmm

It is fucking appalling. No one on here can prove 100% they are who they say they are and they are telling the absolute truth. There is no way to prove that.

Yet to people doing it it seems to just give them a sense of self importance, like they're cleverer than anyone else. And no one can prove 100% that they're wrong.

Using any talk board requires an element of trust, to believe what people are saying. Of course to take this to the extremes would be silly. But these constant accusations destroy that and eventually stop this being a place people can ask for advice because of threads being hijack by constant allegations.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 18-Nov-09 19:54:04  
I find it really, really hard when a thread/situation about something very difficult seemingly escalates into the realms of fantasy and has people sharing their own truthful and painful stories. It feels abusive and is appalling to watch.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 18-Nov-09 19:58:39  
but you can only ever suspect that not know 100% that it is fantasy. Also you can report it.

Usually you have several other posters that similar has happened to - are they all fantasists as well?
I personally can't stand the trolls who are laughing up their sleeves at everybody replying to their jackanory tales of woe. They are the ones who think they are cleverer than everyone and are "fucking appalling", actually.
I think the worst ones are when people are encouraged to share very personal experiences in the hope of helping the OP who then turns out to be a troll. Those are the posts I'm thinking of and those can do some damage.
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