Can you stop the Daily Mail doing stories about MN????

(53 Posts)
Letmehaveausername Fri 08-Jul-16 19:05:39

I know it's great publicity, and I know it probably brings new users to the site and makes money etc.

But they are massively overstepping the mark making users so identifiable to whoever reads that trashy rag. MN is supposed to be anonymous, and there's a big difference between posting something on the forums you know is unlikely to ever be read by the people you know, and the daily mail advertising it to the wider world.

A lot of people post for advice, support and to get things off their chest; they don't post for a newspaper to make a mockery out of a support forum and that's exactly what they're doing.

You have to double check everything you say now in case they copy it, and change your username regularly to make sure anything they publish can't be linked back to you personally. It's ridiculous.

AnchorDownDeepBreath Fri 08-Jul-16 19:09:39

The short answer is no, not easily. The Daily Mail is allowed on the Internet and they'd claim it was fair usage to report on individual threads. MN could claim it's not, and take action, as they own the copyright to what is posted here - but that would be a potentially expensive claim. I suspect the daily mail brings a lot of new users and daily views to the website too, which means MN can sell advertising for more...

I think we just have to hope that people don't read the stories, and the daily mail move on to another forum for stories.

HerRoyalFattyness Fri 08-Jul-16 19:11:40

I am extra careful lately. Only dp knows I'm on here IRL and I know people who read that crap so I try not to be too identifying. Which is annoying as I feel I've made friends here. (I have no rl friends so you lot are stuck with me)

DonkeyOaty Fri 08-Jul-16 19:12:19

Sadly I fear this genie is out of the bottle

The usual caveats around Internet use remain as they always were; don't be fooled by clubbiness - what one writes here is not secret

So - don't reveal age, date of birth/birthday, where you were born, details of your children, your occupation, car type/colour and so on

Sparklingbrook Fri 08-Jul-16 19:15:05

Mn can't do that. Just be careful what you post. if in doubt don't post.

MN is anonymous but not private.

Letmehaveausername Fri 08-Jul-16 19:16:20

Donkey if I was to never reveal anything identifying I would never be able to post asking for support, which I have a few times in my lowest, and sometimes drunk blush , moments.

I have very little rl support, it's nice to feel not alone on here but I'm beginning to wonder if there's a less publicised support forum out there now. It feels almost like a violation.

DonkeyOaty Fri 08-Jul-16 19:23:28

I am so sorry for your troubles

If it's any consolation I have noted - this is anecdotal only - I have noted that threads from AIBU and maybe _chat only make it into the DM

Letmehaveausername Fri 08-Jul-16 19:29:11

Don't be patronising please, it's quite nasty.

ilovesooty Fri 08-Jul-16 19:31:06

This forum is open to public view and once people post they have to take on board that their words can reach a range of audiences. It's up to individuals to self regulate.

ilovesooty Fri 08-Jul-16 19:31:50

Who's being patronising?

pinkpeter1 Fri 08-Jul-16 19:32:55

Who has been patronising?!

Trills Fri 08-Jul-16 19:33:21

Nobody is being patronising.

Trills Fri 08-Jul-16 19:35:44

If it helps at all, the Mail are very unlikely to report on a thread where someone is looking for support with a difficult issue.

Not because they are considerate but because it would not benefit them.

They are interested in

look at these women, they are WRONG, red circle of shame for you

or

snigger snigger sex tee hee we are so childish

Thefitfatty Fri 08-Jul-16 19:37:01

What they're doing is unethical and lazy "journalism", sadly it isn't illegal. Anonymous isn't private. sad

Sparklingbrook Fri 08-Jul-16 19:38:58

Patronising? Where?

Trills Fri 08-Jul-16 19:42:46

How is it unethical?

It is lazy, certainly.

But I don't think it actually is unethical, to report on things that people have publicly written.

Letmehaveausername Fri 08-Jul-16 19:47:20

Donkeyoatys whole comment was patronising.

They may not publish stories about those needing support, they do however publish usernames which can easily be searched through mumsnet.

Trills Fri 08-Jul-16 19:49:42

You sound as if you might be too sensitive right now to be on MN full stop, whether the Daily Mail publishes extracts from threads or not.

DonkeyOaty acknowledged that you were going through a hard time and expressed sympathy, and tried to give you some information that might make you less worried.

Trills Fri 08-Jul-16 19:51:09

If they were to publish your username saying "I don't bother peeling mushrooms" or "I don't understand this fashion for clothes with holes in the shoulders" - why do you think that would prompt someone to go and search your username?

Thefitfatty Fri 08-Jul-16 19:51:55

Well when I was studying ethics of journalism the whole idea of an unverifiable source was considered unethical. Basically it comes down to fact checking. If you're quoting people from an anonymous Internet forum you can't be sure they are who they claim to be or that they mean what they claim to mean. While you don't need to our people in an article you should be able to vouch they are who they say they are.

daisydalrymple Fri 08-Jul-16 19:53:07

I'm sure donkeyoates can speak for herself, but I read her post as 100% supportive to you??? She said she's sorry for your troubles and says DM only seem to report on AIBU or CHAT posts (ie if you avoid these, you should hopefully be able to continue to post here).

ilovesooty Fri 08-Jul-16 19:54:07

I think if you are this sensitive an open forum probably isn't the best place for you.

PaulDacresMicroPenis Fri 08-Jul-16 19:55:20

The dm article linking to a thread by a bereaved parent was very unethical in my opinion Trills, the dm can fill their boots with all the made up goady shite on here but only a lazy souless cunt would accept money to construct an article out of a support thread.

daisydalrymple Fri 08-Jul-16 19:55:37

donkeyoaty sorry, not Oates! Dam auto correct, ahh, and I just saw what you did with the user name, clever grin bit slow me.

Letmehaveausername Fri 08-Jul-16 19:56:24

I'm not too sensitive for anything thank you very much, i have not said I was going through a hard time. I have said that I post asking for advice in my lowest moments. To say sorry for my troubles is patronising and uncalled for, I've not posted because I am troubled but because I would rather not see my username or comments in that newspaper one day.

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