Do mumsnetters really not understand why the press calls them nasty.

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All these nasty threads about a dead woman, it is disgusting and shows the true colours of many people on this site. Whatever she did or didn't do she is dead, it truly amazes me that you allow threads that say I heard someones was dead so started dancing or singing. The use of the c word why oh why is it needed such a foul word to call someone.

peedoffbird Mon 08-Apr-13 23:10:51

I just haven't read the Thatcher ones. She was a human being after all and celebrating the death of someone's mother auntie etc is not right.

Mumsnet can be awful but also wonderful. Think blanket making and support for those going through terrible traumas who have noone in RL to turn to. I wish Amanda Holden had looked a bit further and she would have discovered the flip side.

Death comes to us all. it is only life that we can affect our surroundings. Lady T affected many, many people. To have had such a huge impact on an entire society means that you will necessarily be judged by your actions, positive or negative. Death does not erase that.

DontSHOUTTTTTT Mon 08-Apr-13 22:56:43

I didn't post on the threads about posters being happy that MT is dead as I didn't want to risk keeping them in 'most active'. I thought the posts were vile. sad

I wasn't a fan of MT's policies but that is beside the point.

Viviennemary Mon 08-Apr-13 22:55:33

I hardly think journalists should be polishing their halos. They are quite often nasty. Far nastier than anybody on MN. Or maybe they're all just lovely people who just write horrible things. [sceptical]

AnyFucker Mon 08-Apr-13 22:51:02

OP, have you noticed that debate is free here ?

Many of those comments you object to are not going unchallenged

Go and counter them at source...it's what MN is all about

LadyBeagleEyes Mon 08-Apr-13 22:48:03

smile usual.
I never thought I would risk deletion for giving my opinions on a political leader.
I've had to tread very careful in what I've said tonight, which weirdly would have been just accepted as political debate yesterday.

Startail Mon 08-Apr-13 22:43:45

All life is on MN and all sorts of people, that's why I love it and why it makes me laugh, cry and want to swear.

I'm a very liberal Conservative and I don't hate Mrs Thatcher, I'm old enough, just to remember the fuck up that lead to her rise to power.

In her last term of office, she probably went too far, that is the nature of British politics. We don't have PR so we achieve balance by swinging too far to the right and too far to the left and back again. It's very messy, but it kind of works, rather like MN. The YANBU and the YABUs cancel out, but some posters get hurt along the way.

The miners blame Mrs Thatcher for loosing their jobs when quite possibly the world economic climate would have made the mines uneconomic anyway.

A right to buy council house was our way on to the housing ladder, being able to sell it an old man's pension.

Nothing is ever totally black and white. Even though Gove is a cunt, I still prefer linear exams.

usualsuspect Mon 08-Apr-13 22:34:21

It does feel a bit like censorship,LBE

LadyBeagleEyes Mon 08-Apr-13 22:21:39

Have you looked at the rest of the internet today Op?
Believe me MN is mild, in fact we've been practically censored.

FigAndPear Mon 08-Apr-13 22:20:06

In that case, the problem is surely a general one? Yet the OP's point was about MN, and MN alone.

RumbleGreen Mon 08-Apr-13 22:10:43

It is really nasty, especially since she is dead she won't give a shit anymore the ones this will effect would be her loved ones.

Even if some people are a little extreme in their opinions, you can't tar us all with the same brush... But thanks for doing so...

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep Mon 08-Apr-13 22:02:08

Yes, you're absolutely right, OP. Every time MT dies, MNers say how pleased they are. And that's why decent folk hate us.

Seriously?

MN isn't moderated in the same way as other boards so of course it's not all sweetness and light. Sometimes people overdo it with the swearing because they can.

I remember my first thread on MN about 3 years ago when I was terrified about looking after my PFB and DH was going back to work. Everyone was lovely. It was so nice. However this was probably in the parenting topic where no journalist one goes as topics like AIBU are so prevelant in active threads.

RatPants Mon 08-Apr-13 22:01:09

It's not just here, it's everywhere. Things being said on here are pretty tame compared to some I've seen.

Sparklingbrook Mon 08-Apr-13 21:59:22

Don't believe everything you read in the papers.

WorraLiberty Mon 08-Apr-13 21:57:35

I've seen some crass/vile things posted about MT today

But all over the internet - certainly not just on Mumsnet.

Twitter and FB are exactly the same today so it's unfair to point at MN only.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Apr-13 21:56:10

Evening.

To reiterate what we have already posted on many of the Thatcher threads, we have no problem with folks voicing strong opinions about Thatcher's politics but we will delete posts that we consider to be beyond the place - and we include in that posts about "dancing on her grave" and the like. Please do report to us any posts of this sort.

But, to answer your question, OP, we do find it baffling that Mumsnetters are labelled nasty - when we see, daily on the boards, the most incredible examples of kindness, support and friendly, good-humoured advice.

AliceWChild Mon 08-Apr-13 21:55:42

Considering all the vile stuff on Facebook, twitter and that big site I forget the name of, why is all the criticism saved for MN.? Ironically I would bet its for pretty much the same reason that hatred is reserved for Thatcher than all the other politicians involved. Misogyny.

I detest what Thatcher stood for, but the way she is scapegoated is striking.

Bowlersarm Mon 08-Apr-13 21:53:57

MN isn't for the faint hearted IMO. Maybe it's the threads I have been venturing on recently but some posters are spitting bile and contempt and I'm sure many of them are hiding their bravery behind a computer screen. I simply avoid threads with some posters on them because of their viciousness.

I think for younger (than me) MNers it's probably great for pregnancy baby advice, and there are some great supportive threads like Brave Babes but venture into AIBU or politics and it can get very nasty

LadyDamerel Mon 08-Apr-13 21:49:18

What is this obsession with focusing on the negative posts and wilfully disregarding of the far higher proportion of posters challenging what they feel is unacceptable comments?

Why shouldn't MN allow someone to start a thread saying they're pleased MT is dead when the main consensus on the thread is that the OP's view is vile and wrong?

MN is about debate, it's a place where people can express their opinions and if other people feel their opinion is vile and wrong then they will make that known. Surely it's better to have those debates out there so that all sides of the argument are aired and discussed, rather than a censored discussion where only one side is heard?

MNHQ are deleting any comments that they feel are beyond the pale, according to their talk guidelines, it's not as if every single post is being allowed to stand.

I know my opinions of all sorts of different issues have changed as a result of threads I've read on MN and that has to be good too, that posters may be being educated as a result of a thread?

As for the swearing, we're all adults here. Some people like it, some people don't. The whole point of MN that makes it different to other parenting forums is that is is largely unmoderated and swearing is allowed. We're not censored in any way and for me, that is why I post here and nowhere else.

TomDudgeon Mon 08-Apr-13 21:46:55

I'm a mumsnetter and this is the closest I've come to making a comment on it today.
Isn't the point that there are thousands of mumsnetters and we're all different.
Like every other place I've been on today, fb and twitter etc, there have been people making all sorts of different comments.

FigAndPear Mon 08-Apr-13 21:45:04

Or men and grandads and fathers, and women who aren't MN members, all over Twitter and the news sites? This isn't exclusive to MN, you know.

Tee2072 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:44:30

Yes, yes, it's only on MN that people are 'dancing' because MT died. The rest of the world is prostrate with grief. hmm

Don't like this place? No one is forcing you to read or post. Bye.

usualsuspect Mon 08-Apr-13 21:43:49

I hated her when she was alive,I still hate her now she's dead.

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