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Thread deletion getting on my nerves

(42 Posts)
Snog Sun 25-Nov-12 06:36:07

Seems like thread deletion is becoming much more common on mumsnet and i find it annoying that threads i have taken time to post on disappear as if they had never existed. Can we not just delete inappropriate posts?
Why does the whole thread need to go?

Lougle Sun 25-Nov-12 07:48:02

It depends. There was a thread this week which would have made no sense at all if it were left, because several prayers asked for all their threads on it to be deleted, for good reason IMHO.

Lougle Sun 25-Nov-12 07:48:18

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Yama Sun 25-Nov-12 07:51:52

I've seen posters continually post personal attacks if they disagree with the content of the op. These attacks tend to be responded to and so HQ deletes whole thread.

A cunning plan if you like.

Moving threads I actually find more annoying as they cease to be purple in Active Convos.

Everlong Sun 25-Nov-12 08:32:00

The whole thread needs to go sometimes because a thread can be taken over by a small number of posters having a go and each other. It takes over the thread and can get out of hand, sometimes getting personal. I agree with deletions in this instance tbh.

Snog Sun 25-Nov-12 08:33:52

But it feels like the work of the secret police when a whole thread is deleted without trace.
Could there not be notification of why threads have been deleted at least to those who posted eg this thread has been deleted because 90% of postings were personal attacks / thread likely to result in legal case for defamation etc etc
Transparency and accountability of censorship just aren't there and it feels Gestapo-esque to me
Mumsnet what say ye?

CaptainBarnaclesDaddyman Sun 25-Nov-12 08:39:42

Gestapo-esque? I'm not sure MNHQ are rounding posters up in the middle of the night and making them disappear!

Everlong Sun 25-Nov-12 08:47:47

Hmm. But if you're on a thread for most of the duration where it's deleted because of posters arguing surely this is transparent?

If it seems there's a hairy handed one on there too that is usually obvious.

I'm confused to what sort of deletions you mean. Sorry.

bruffin Sun 25-Nov-12 08:51:57

Maybe there should be a little board where MN HQ can list deleted threads and give a reason why.

Princessishavingababyboo Sun 25-Nov-12 08:54:33

A few of the threads that have been deleted this week have been because the op came on to talk about an rl issue, then the other person involved 'found' the thread and all out war started, specifically wedding dresses and birthday parties.

Everlong Sun 25-Nov-12 08:57:30

I think mnhq just want them gone. If deleted threads were listed people would keep referring to them. Sometimes, most times they need kabooming.

bruffin Sun 25-Nov-12 09:00:29

There are often threads about threads asking why they are gone

GrimAndHumourlessAndEven Sun 25-Nov-12 09:01:15

Seriously, please don't compare MN to Nazi Germany, please, that is HORRIBLE, no matter how upset one is that pearls of wisdom scattered by you are lost forever

TIA

HQ always, so far as I know, post a message saying the thread is going to go. Sometimes they even say why.

If you miss that, of course, you're out of luck.

And I am wondering if mentioning the Gestapo is a corollary to Godwin's Law.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sun 25-Nov-12 09:06:41

Stupid to say the mnhq are acting like the gestapo.

And transparency? They are a private company, not subject to the freedom of information act. They can do what they like and are accountable to nobody.

If they want to delete threads which are made up by attention seeking twats then I am glad.

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 25-Nov-12 09:15:34

A fine Sunday morning to you all
Just to clear up a few things:-
We absolutely are not the Gestapo shock

There have been occasional references to the Secret Service with regards to trolls truckers and the general hairy of hand inasmuch we don't like to give out our methods of why we may ban someone.

With regards to deletions of threads and indeed posts we're sorry if you think that.

YankTeeDoodleDanTee

HQ always, so far as I know, post a message saying the thread is going to go. Sometimes they even say why.

If you miss that, of course, you're out of luck.

YankTeeDoodleDantee is correct, we have indeed been trying to be much more transparent of late, as per the discussion on this very topic last month with Justine and Helen

Hope this clears up a few things
Peace and love
MNHQ

frasersmummy Sun 25-Nov-12 09:21:19

oh Olivia .. I am disappointed in you... you missed the chance to drop tssdncop into the discussion grin

Everlong Sun 25-Nov-12 09:22:18

Morning Olivia.

I shall peruse your link later on, thank you smile

LadyIsabellaWrotham Sun 25-Nov-12 09:25:33

Oh did cheeky wedding-dress-borrower thread kick off? Damn, I missed it sad

bruffin Sun 25-Nov-12 09:48:22

But the message is only up until the thread disappears and if you dont catch in that window you never know.

usualsuspect3 Sun 25-Nov-12 09:54:42

'If they want to delete threads which are made up by attention seeking twats then I am glad'

This.

Snog Sun 25-Nov-12 11:47:01

I just want to know what threads were deleted and why, that is all

The thread title and a generic reason for deletion would be sufficient for me.
I am not objecting to thread deletion but to the process of thread deletion.

There is lack of transparency here and the current situation is too Big Brother in style for my liking. Appreciate that this may be for technical rather than ideological reasons. Mumsnet used imo to be far more liberal on the subject of censorship and things seem to have shifted.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 25-Nov-12 12:56:48

Snog

I just want to know what threads were deleted and why, that is all

The thread title and a generic reason for deletion would be sufficient for me.
I am not objecting to thread deletion but to the process of thread deletion.

There is lack of transparency here and the current situation is too Big Brother in style for my liking. Appreciate that this may be for technical rather than ideological reasons. Mumsnet used imo to be far more liberal on the subject of censorship and things seem to have shifted.

Sorry but we do disagree with you on this one, Snog.

We almost always post with an explanation for deletion prior to deleting a thread - and we try to leave that explanation up for as long as possible before actually deleting.

We also, when deleting a thread, type up a message that displays the reason for deletion, should you call up the thread url again.

We realise that this doesn't work very helpfully if you tend to view threads through Threads I'm On - but we have asked Tech to look at that and fix some way for the deletion message to display in Threads I'm On, too.

But, of course, if you're ever confused, you are most welcome to mail in to MNHQ and we will always be happy to fill you in on what happened and why a thread was deleted.

We appreciate that you may not always be happy with our decisions to delete but we really don't think we are Big Brother or the Gestapo or even untransparent.

GlitKnit Sun 25-Nov-12 12:57:48

id say if this is REALLY annoying you that you need time out from Mumsnet in which to discover Real LIfe

Everlong Sun 25-Nov-12 13:01:25

I don't understand the gestapo thing.

As a forum I think we get can pretty much say and do what we like. Well that's how I feel.

I don't agree with everything that mnhq do like banning tsc but most things I'm cool with. wink

Tbf I think they are a pretty lovely lot.

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