Waldegrave (Twickenham) vs. the Green School (Isleworth)?

(57 Posts)
Strix Sun 27-Oct-13 15:50:23

DD is perfectly capable of high academic performance. But given the choice would prefer to avoid it for an easy life. She is very good at math, and does pretty well in other subjects -- when and if the spirit moves her.

We are debating (flip flopping actually) whether to put Waldegrave (which we probably live too far to get into) or The Green School first on the Richmond borough CAF.

Any views / suggestions / experience?

Also, I fear (perhaps irrationally) that we could miss the green school by not putting it first.

DD Prefers Waldegrave for the sole reason that most of her friends will go there. Nothing else really matters to her.

tiggytape Sun 27-Oct-13 17:12:19

Also, I fear (perhaps irrationally) that we could miss the green school by not putting it first.

That cannot happen so don't worry about that.
If you live too far from Waldegrave and you list it first, it is ignored and The Green School becomes in effect your new first choice. If you meet the criteria (eg live close enough) you get an offer. If you don't meet the criteria (eg 200 people who want it live closer than you do), then your 3rd choice is treated as your new 1st choice and so on until they find a school on your list that you qualify for.

You can never miss out on a school purely by listing it lower than ones you failed to qualify for - that's what the Equal Preference System is all about.

MLP Mon 28-Oct-13 12:59:18

We are also looking at Waldegrave as in the catchment area (it's on the Richmond website so you can get a sense from that but obviously varies year to year). We are too far from Green (it's in Hounslow council area) but it also seens to be great.

We have friends at both school and no complaints from either. Results are good at both - slightly better at Waldegrave. We went to the Waldegrave open day and liked it.

I don't think you will make a mistake with either to be honest. And if you are out if the Waldegrave area then the decision will effectively be made for you.

As previous poster said, you won't be penalised for the order in the application.

Strix Mon 28-Oct-13 14:29:06

Thanks. We are right on the border for Waldegrave according to last years first preference maps on the Richmond Council website. No idea of course how that will change with Sir Richard Reynalds and Turing House intake. So, really, anything could happen.

For the Green School we will qualify for a category 1 foundation place (Anglican church goer) so we are all but guaranteed that offer.

So, if you are near Waldegrave Area B, do you mind if I ask your opinion of Christ's, which is also on our list?

MLP Mon 28-Oct-13 15:10:07

Not sure on Christ's to be honest. It seems to have improved and gets a lot of kids from the likes of Queen's school in Kew. However, results seem a lot better at Waldegrave. If I had a choice between Green School and Christ's I would go for Green School. Part of that is also driven by DD's preference for all girls' school.

Have you thought about Twyford or is that too far away from you? It's a CoE school, which might suit you as an Anglican Church goer. It has a great reputation.

Strix Mon 28-Oct-13 21:06:09

Hadn't even heard of Twyford before I read it in your post below. But I don't think we could get enough points in the foundation category to not be subject to the distance criteria and we would lose that one (we live in Whitton).

so Christ is on our list, but not very hig on it. Waldegrave, green school, and Orleans Park all rank higher.

Jeez.... This is stressful.

Oh then there is Turing.... I kind of like that one. Pity about not knowing the location.

Shootingatpigeons Tue 29-Oct-13 09:59:59

strix last year was a relatively small cohort so some roads made it into Waldegrave catchment that didn't the year before (previously it had got to the point of making it down to half way down Heath Road in that direction with furthest offer in Clifden) Next year is the start of the pupil bulge, quite a few extra coming out of primaries, 146 I think. St RR this year filled up (actually didn't fill up) with non Catholics from Hampton without places, but that will presumably change if Twickenham catchments shrink, plus last year the judicial review may have deterred Catholics who did have other choices outside the borough. Turing may change things though, a lot of people like the sound of that one and the latest newsletter on the site hints a site being in the pipeline..... I hope that helps.

aboardersmum Tue 29-Oct-13 11:35:57

Know two people with dad's at green school, both happy with it , but one comment was that because it had a large catchment friends lived a long way away. Seemed to be quite a few from Chiswick.
Worth putting St RR on list as well if you are trying to avoid TA

aboardersmum Tue 29-Oct-13 11:39:16

That,s supposed to be dd's not dads!

Strix Tue 29-Oct-13 21:46:36

Right, here is my list.... All comments welcome!

1. Waldegrave
2. Green School
3. Twyford C of E High School
4. Orleans Park
5. Grey Court
6. Christ's

I think it will end at the Green School. But I have six spaces to fill so I filled them. If we get Waldegrave DD will be delighted. But I think it's unlikely (unless Turing sucks in a lot of otherwise would be Wadegrave girls). And if Turing doesn't suck them in then we may well get Turing.

MLP Wed 30-Oct-13 12:43:29

I like the order. Have you looked at the school catchment area maps on the Richmond council website? Hopefully you get one of your top two choices but if you don't then I think you will be too far away from the likes of Grey Court.

The Turing admissions point is reasonably close to Whitton so maybe that will work out - I would definitely also apply there, even with the uncertainty re location. I don't know which primary school is your local but Stanley and Trafalgar apparently account for a lot of the applications to Turing.

Good luck.

aboardersmum Wed 30-Oct-13 14:35:42

Which would you prefer out of Twickenham Academy, Turing or St RR. If you don't get any of the above. You need to have a dead cert back up. Are you closer to twickenham academy or Turing . If both are undersubcribed and you don't get any from your list you will get the closer. If Turing is fully subscribed and TA isn't if you don't get your choice you will get TA .
Waldegrave, favorite 50/50 chance good to have first. Green good backup for number 2. Twyford probibly not a cat in hells chance, Orleans unlikely but you never know. Maybe Turing and St RR will be very popular. Grey court I would say no chance. Christs no chance unless RPA has got very popular.
If you would accept Turing put it in number 6 or you could end up with Twickenham or RPA. That's not down or RPA just its a long journey

Strix Wed 30-Oct-13 17:04:24

Thanks for the feedback.

uring is running a separate application process this year. I am unclear why. But the application is on their website and not aon the CAF. I like Turing and have applied there. We should get an offer from the CAF and separately get an offer (or not) from Turing. Turing probably comes in after Twyford for me.

I realise Grey Court is very unlikely. But I have six spaces to fill so might as well write something down.

Twickenham Academy I am avoiding like the plague. My DD will not go there. If we do not get into any of the schools we are applying to and we are given TA, I will appeal, and I will not send my DD there in the mean time. I don't know what we would do. Home school? Move to Kent? Blow up the school? (just kidding) I think TA is making good improvements. But they take time and won't happen by next year. I have a 2 year old. Perhaps it will be ok for him, but not for DD in 2014.

aboardersmum Wed 30-Oct-13 17:56:33

That's OK then, just didn't want you to make an error.

It going to be chaos though. I,m guessing all the Trafalgar kids and lots from Archdeacon will get Twickenham Academy (because the dont get Orleans) and Turing then will turn down TA. So TA could end up half empty

Timetorelax Wed 30-Oct-13 17:57:02

Hi Strix. Did you go to any open evenings? There was lots of positive feedback about Twickenham Academy's Open Evening this year, both from people I know who we're there, and here on Mumsnet. Maybe it would have been worth a look around.

I'm slightly amused that you put Twyford as third choice when you hadn't even heard of it a few posts back, but I guess if you're just filling up slots you can afford to be reckless smile.

Timetorelax Wed 30-Oct-13 18:05:11

Aboardersmum, the cohort is much bigger this year, and gets even bigger in future years so the extra places are needed.

Schools will only fill if they're good though. TA are due for an Ofsted so as long as that is positive there's no reason why it shouldn't fill. Their new building is fabulous. They might attract a few away from Hampton Academy too, because their recent Ofsted wasn't great.

Strix Wed 30-Oct-13 20:39:01

Yes, I guess it is a bit funny that I discover a school in the 11th hour which then gets slot number three.

My dislike for TA has more to do with the children who attend than it does with how the school is run. I will be very surprised if I meet an Archdeacon parent who gets TA and is happy about it. I know of two families from Archdeacon who got TA last year. Both opted to pay for private. TA is our closest school so I ride the bus with those kids, and their behaviour is pretty disrespectful, and so is their (lack of) knowledge of the English language. They can put on an all singing all dancing dog and pony show at the open house... But my children are not going to school with the kids who go there now.

They do have some good plans but they need to be much further along to compete with the likes of Waldegrave and Orleans Park.

Shootingatpigeons Wed 30-Oct-13 20:49:56

a boarders mum not quite the reality

I share Strix's hmm about Twickenham Academy. It would not have been for my DDs, sat in front of a computer scheme for hours on end, and one of OFSTEDs biggest criticism's of Hampton was the workshops that made the approach sound more engaging. However I have not spoken to current parents about their DCs actual experience and that is obviously key. As with RPA it isn't the cohorts actually getting the improving results that prospective parents need to hear from as the cohorts who have experienced the new regimes from the start, sadly not seeing the same ringing endorsements that you hear from RPA from parents from HA or TA. Hampton's poor Ofsted (and it was pretty dire) was as much to do with a cultural issue with part of the cohort as the approach but it wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

However Twickenham Academy would actually have been over subscribed at initial allocations (and Hampton was) if the Council hadn't decided to split the parents who did not get any of their preferences in Hampton between TA, the nearest school with spare capacity and St RR hmm, and not everyone was exactly happy..........

Next year there will be 146 ish additional pupils coming out of borough primaries, 5 additional classes, and there really isn't enough spare capacity at this end of the borough to leave TA half empty even with Turing and St RR (and if Catholics start signing up to St RR instead of Gumley Gunnersbury etc etc it will not be able to take pressure off the situation). The reality is that many parents don't have a choice ...........

celiamolestrangler Wed 30-Oct-13 21:22:33

There might be a Green School for Boys by the time your DS is 11 - would have an admissions policy similar to Christ's from the look of it.

Timetorelax Wed 30-Oct-13 21:24:27

There are plenty of nice kids at TA Strix. Maybe they just don't get your bus. sad

Waldegrave has a few horrors. Most schools do, don't they?

Strix Wed 30-Oct-13 22:38:45

Yes, I'm sure there are some nice kids there too. But I can't control which one my DD will choose to hang out with.

Oh and what is with "a learning school". Seriously? As opposed to what other kind?

I wish it was a lovely school as it is quite close. And in a few years it might be. But not in time for DD.

Yes, I'm aware of the plan for the Green School for Boys. That would be great. :-).

Strix Wed 30-Oct-13 22:47:17

Oh, and I agree that Waldegrave girls are not perfect.

Aren't TA and HA run by the same company?

I do hope that TA improves in the near future because a good senior school would do so much for the needed regeneration in Whitton. And I think it will, but more time is needed.

Timetorelax Thu 31-Oct-13 03:53:26

Yes, more time, but also a little more support from the Whitton community. Support can be as simple as restraint from public criticism. Whitton is a great place to live, lots of family sized homes, and thriving high street. It deserves a great local school. The new building at TA is attracting a lot of interest so it could be the catalyst it needs. Hope so.

Timetorelax Thu 31-Oct-13 04:07:11

Oh, and "A Learning School" is a translation of Kunskappskolan, which is the Swedish company that sponsors it (and HA as you say). A better translation would have been "Knowledge School", or perhaps a completely new strapline tailored to a local audience. I agree it doesn't work very well as it is.

celiamolestrangler Thu 31-Oct-13 07:43:37

No room on your list but isn't The Heathland School near Whitton too? It's 'outstanding' and gets the same sort of results as Orleans Park.

celiamolestrangler Thu 31-Oct-13 08:05:29

It seems to be the most popular school in Hounslow though - 1.2 miles cut-off, 362 first preference applications. Beats all the Richmond schools for popularity. Maybe that's why Twickenham Academy is undersubscribed, if it's in between Heathland and Orleans Park?

Timetorelax Thu 31-Oct-13 08:31:28

Celiamolestrangler, its more than that. This is London, where there are so many children that any school will full so long as its judged to be at least good. TA has a history of underperformance. The council gave up on trying to improve it themselves and instead turned it into an academy with a innovative swedish style curriculum. They did the same to nearby Hampton Academy too. The jury is still out on whether the transformation has been successful, which is why TA's upcoming Ofsted is crucial. If its judged to be good then it will soon fill. If not, then those who have other options will use them, and those who don't will resentfully put up with it. Fingers crossed, it will go the right way.

celiamolestrangler Thu 31-Oct-13 08:48:12

The school itself has changed quite radically, yes, but application numbers seem to be exactly the same as they always were, probably coming from the same primary schools. Not sure why they took 'Whitton' out of the name if they didn't really change the admissions criteria, unless they wanted pupils from Twickenham to go there.

I don't think the Hampton Academy Ofsted report was that bad, by the way - it says some good things - but it might struggle to attract pupils from Hounslow if Ofsted rating determines choices, because all schools there are good/outstanding (six of them were undersubscribed in 2013 though so I suspect there are other factors).

Timetorelax Thu 31-Oct-13 08:56:08

Of course there will be some people who like the TA approach, and their new buildings, enough to choose them whatever the Ofsted judgement. If there are enough of those to fill it then great; the decision to transform it will be justified.

Equally, there will be people who don't like the curriculum, even if the school is judged outstanding.

Whether TA will ever be socially selective enough to satisfy Strix is another matter!

celiamolestrangler Thu 31-Oct-13 09:20:51

There's been another Ofsted monitoring inspection for HA - there seems to be a lot going on, lots of new teachers, action plans, external consultants, etc. Quite impressive really. It wouldn't surprise me if the same thing was happening at TA.

corlan Thu 31-Oct-13 09:57:45

Whether TA will ever be socially selective enough to satisfy Strix is another matter!

I hear there are plans to bulldoze the council estates on the A316 and build a gated community thlwink

Shootingatpigeons Thu 31-Oct-13 10:56:36

I wonder if strix has ever caught the R70? That would knock Waldegrave, the Mall, Hampton Academy, Hampton and LEH off the list, especially LEH, have you seen the hemlines? grin

Actually celia the buzz coming out of Hampton Academy has been positive for some time, popular head etc which made the poor OFSTED all the more of a shock, and as I said before it was partly failing the considerable challenge of motivating white girls from the traveller site to attend school and do well but negative comments were made about the approach and not surprisingly since it hasn't been tried in the UK before, it is basically an experiment and one that many existing teachers were hmm about . The Head at TA is more like Marmite and can switch parents off. It will be interesting to see what OFSTED make of Twickenham Academy. We would know if the Head had not very quickly sent them packing when they tried to visit as the building works overran earlier this year.

however the admissions statistics have turned around. From numbers that would have seen it close it is almost full, quite a lot from Hounslow, who might start applying to Feltham again now it's results are improving and with the Mo effect but still, pressure on places is such that as time says some parents just have to put up with it, whether they like it or not. With this Council depending on your postcode and faith you have many choices, or none, in fact at primary level (and with the pupil bulge possibly senior too in the not too far distant future) you may not even get a place at all.

Timetorelax Thu 31-Oct-13 11:06:45

By the way Artic, you'll be very pleased to heat that Twyford is one of the most socially selective schools in the country so your daughter should be fine there! smile.

celiamolestrangler Thu 31-Oct-13 11:08:07

Choice isn't the problem - otherwise people in Twickenham would have complained about the link system a lot earlier - it's unequal choice. The people living in the estates next to the A316 will probably carry on going to Twickenham Academy because it's the nearest school. Ironically it could do with more of those pupils who do have a choice.

I don't blame Strix for making a choice though! It's a brave parent who would take a risk no one else seemed to be taking.

Timetorelax Thu 31-Oct-13 11:08:18

Strix I mean, not Artic. And hear, not heat. . Darn predictive text.

Shootingatpigeons Thu 31-Oct-13 11:23:48

celia I live in the centre of Twickenham and I wouldn't, and didn't have a choice. There is a black hole of primary provision already and the Waldegrave catchment stops half way along Heath Road and the Council are saying the OP catchment will creep back to the railway bridge and nearer in. The Council set the catchment for Turing just by the green because they know it is an emerging black hole. People don't complain because it doesn't become an issue for them until a few months before they apply, cue letters to their Councillors, who claim there was an unforeseen surge in applications, as there has been for decades hmm MP and the Richmond and Twickenham Times and then if they can afford it they move or go private. That is what happened when we were first not offered a school place 15 years ago and it is still happening now. The letters were in the RTT in recent weeks....... This borough has more parents going private at 11 than the average for the ten most affluent boroughs in London, and it isn't one of them.

celiamolestrangler Thu 31-Oct-13 12:13:14

Apologies to Strix for going off topic but if your DCs hadn't gone to a link school yet you lived on the doorstep, no, you wouldn't have had a choice in Twickenham. Or if you lived nearer to Whitton but went to Trafalgar rather than Archdeacon you wouldn't have got into Orleans either. That was a peculiar problem with Richmond. And if you had lived in Strawberry Hill but had a boy you wouldn't have got into Waldegrave. If you lived in Ham 10 years you only had the option of one school that needed a shot in the arm (if you couldn't get into Christ's).

So now at least some of that is fairer at secondary, and schools have all got better anyway. And boys in Strawberry Hill will be able to go to Turing House if it gets a site nearby. If the Green boys' school opens that will be three new science engineering schools in three years if you count Kingston too.

Shootingatpigeons Thu 31-Oct-13 12:44:01

Celia and the number of pupils coming out of borough primaries is going to increase by nearly a fifth in the next four years and it all starts this year. It is relevant to OP because she may think she has a choice but she probably hasn't because the catchments are going to carry on shrinking, even at the less popular school. Removing the links just rearranged the pieces, and improving schools means people who would have moved or gone private become one of the 1000 making the popular schools with 200 places their first preference last year .

Shootingatpigeons Thu 31-Oct-13 12:57:11

And the pupil bulge in Hounslow is twice as big, 40% more pupils by 2017.

Strix Thu 31-Oct-13 14:12:10

I don't mind the thread drifting from the original topic. However, I do object to the "socially acceptable" comments. And, I am indeed familiar with the R70, and a wide variety of other busses in the area.

I am seeking academic rigour, which is nothing to do with social selection.

My comments about TA kids refer to their evident low academic achievement, not to mention their very disrespectful behaviour as the swear at their mates from one end of the bus to the other.

Let's talk league tables. TA children simply do not perform. That's a show stopper for me.

Strix Thu 31-Oct-13 14:25:29

I would also like to point out there are no links and no catchments. In fact, catchments are illegal. But, there is distance. This of course results high house prices near good schools, and that results in good school places for rich kids.

Timetorelax Thu 31-Oct-13 14:37:09

Sorry Strix, just teasing. You need to choose the schools that feel right for your child. She would probably do just as well at TA as anywhere else but if you don't feel positive about it then she'll pick up on that. Hope you'll go and look round at some point though, if only to reassure yourself that its on the way up. They had their best ever GCSE results this year.

Shootingatpigeons Thu 31-Oct-13 15:20:15

I am sorry strix I too had my tongue in cheek but also was partly serious, the behaviour on the R70 is pretty bad, and it isn't just the Waldegrave girls and Hampton Academy pupils.

And I was talking about catchments in the sense of the boundary beyond which you will not get in on distance. For Waldegrave that moved a little further away last year because there was a decrease in the number coming out of schools but it was a little misleading for those applying this year since more will be coming out of Year 6 than ever before, 146 more, the equivalent of a new school. Next year it is likely that you will need to be quite a bit closer to get in, especially bearing in mind that the local catchment is only for 85% of the places. This year people got in from Cross Deep, in previous years there were refusals in Sherland. There may be million pound houses in Twickenham but it won't get you a place at Waldegrave. The acceptances were not far over the A316 last year anyway, highly unlikely it will stretch that far this year. However it is worth a choice. And if you will do anything but go to Twickenham Academy then it won't be a risk not putting it down. A few people came unstuck last year not putting Hampton Academy because they assumed they could put down 5 aspirational choices and there would be places there anyway, and then found themselves with no choice but St RR which not everyone was happy about.

I have every sympathy, I would not have wanted my DDs to go to Twickenham Academy either but that is because I think they would be bored out of their minds by the approach and I find the Head arrogant and worry he would not be flexible enough to adapt the approach to the needs of the pupils, something the Head at Hampton has been more willing to do (and it earned her some of the more positive comments in the OFSTED). I also think it is pretty disgraceful that parents depending on their postcode can have a chance of a place in an academic sixth form offering 17 subjects, or one that as Twickenham Academy will be doing, offer a limited range of academic A levels with for instance no languages at all (with all the implications that has for the incentive to study them and the teaching further down the school) .

celiamolestrangler Thu 31-Oct-13 15:53:09

No links any more, which still got decided on distance but (at least for Richmond borough pupils near Orleans) whether you went to a Church of England primary. It was never logical when there was a CofE secondaries elsewhere.

Strix your choices look good. I would need to see some evidence at Twickenham too.

On the sixth forms - 'parents depending on their postcode can have a chance of a place in an academic sixth form offering 17 subjects' - I think the only sixth form which will be non-selective is Grey Court. You could be at a disadvantage if you don't get a school for Y7 that pushes you to get the grades you need but Ofsted is certainly cracking the whip on 'high attainers'. But the sixth forms will have much wider catchments than KS3-4. I got shown round Orleans Park and there are a lot still keen on Strodes.

Shootingatpigeons Thu 31-Oct-13 16:07:22

celia at Teddington at least they anticipate more demand than they have places and selecting on distance (though I assume there will be some requirement to have achieved a respectable grade at GCSE in the subjects you want to study) if you are stuck with a place at TA you will be unlikely to have the opportunity to go to one of the academic sixth forms in the Waldegrave/OP/Teddington partnership, so it is a choice privileged to some postcodes.

Shootingatpigeons Thu 31-Oct-13 16:10:09

Sorry I should have been more explicit, Teddington anticipate more demand than they have places amongst existing pupils and they will select on distance. They have presumably consulted with pupils and parents before putting out that message and causing concern to existing parents and pupils.

Strix Fri 01-Nov-13 09:39:34

Thanks all for your comments. This thread has helped me consider our options. I'm very glad my job is complete, and we shall now just have to wait and see what happens on March 1st.

I think we will most likely end up at The Green School, and I will be quite happy with that.

If it all goes terribly wrong and I don't get any of the schools on our list (and TA is not the only school I would be unhappy about), I will surely be back here with a new thread.

But, for now, I shall rest... :-)

Thanks again.

amidaiwish Fri 01-Nov-13 15:41:42

Good luck, roll on march 1st!
Out of interest would you not have put down St RR?

Strix Mon 04-Nov-13 15:40:48

No, I did not put Sir RR down. We aren't Catholic, and therefore wouldn't get in. Ironically we live very close to good Catholic primary in Whitton, and so a lot of our neighbors will probably go to Sir RR.

Shootingatpigeons Mon 04-Nov-13 17:24:37

strix St RR will give priority only to Catholics if it is oversubscribed. It was far from oversubscribed last year, and still has a few spaces for Year 7. Only 67 Catholics made it first preference and only 75 (half) of the places were taken by children from borough Catholic primaries, 23 non Catholics who made it a preference were offered places and 23 non Catholics who did not make it a preference at all were allocated places. Catholics are still getting places at out of borough Catholic secondary's like Gumley, Gunnersbury, Oratory etc. and the diocese say this will continue to be the case for four more years. So whilst some Catholics may have been deterred from applying by Judicial Reviews etc it seems as if the draw of existing established schools will continue to allow non Catholics to successfully apply for places there. Perhaps more of a chance of getting a place there than Waldegrave although you can never be sure how these things will go.

celiamolestrangler Mon 04-Nov-13 18:10:41

I doubt non-Catholics would get into St RR this year - apparently there were 1,000 at the open evening! But if St RR started filling up last year, Christ's took from twice as far away for its foundation places, as far as Hammersmith. There seem to be a few other Church of England schools though (not an option for me). Hadn't realised Twyford took pupils from Whitton too.

Shootingatpigeons Mon 04-Nov-13 19:38:07

Celia There were a 1000 last year as well, how many at Teddington and Orleans? Everyone does the rounds. You will find other threads on here moaning about how many Catholics from Richmond and Twickenham get into Sacred Heart and Oratory and other out of borough schools. The Catholics I know from the Parishes around here don't think parents are going to give up cleaning the silver and putting their ten year olds forward as alter boys for a chance to go into the lottery for Oratory anytime soon, especially as the main rebuilding on the St RR site won't start for five years, so that there will be a lot of disruption over the seven years of a pupil's life .

Strix Mon 04-Nov-13 19:53:06

Well I am not sure that Twyford does take children from Whitton. But I out it in a space on the off chance that they might.

The list is now done and dusted. So I am trying to go into March with an open mind that I all of the schools on my list have positives. And I also like Turing, so that's 7. Surely I'll get one (and maybe two).

And last but not least, I think Richard Reynalds was a Sir and not a Saint.

Shootingatpigeons Mon 04-Nov-13 20:03:17
celiamolestrangler Mon 04-Nov-13 20:08:13

Well Catholic parents I've talked to are certainly putting St/Sir RR on their list. There was more to see this year and the head's speech went well. I think applications to Gumley were down a bit last year too, and Christ's definitely were (for church places).

It will be a bit hard to tell who is going where until next September - unless Turing House is telling people to accept or decline on the same day as the council?

Strix Tue 05-Nov-13 13:42:25

Oh the shame... my humble apologies. Why did I think it was Sir. Clearly you are right. oops....

Now who the heck was/is Saint Richard Reynalds?

xmb53 Tue 26-Nov-13 15:58:24

I think lot of Catholics will be putting down St RR as first choice, including those who would historically have put down Gumley or St Marks in the past. It will take children from St James and other Catholic primaries who previously had few options. I understand Head has been impressing prospective parents at open evenings.

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