Anyone else waiting for Kent 11+ results today?

(39 Posts)
ClarisseVonTrumpington Wed 16-Oct-13 06:28:23

KCC are serving a cruel and unusual punishment on those of us who have got into this awful system by making us wait until 4pm and then not even giving us the ruddy scores.

May the force be with you and your dc.

Bonsoir Wed 16-Oct-13 06:36:49

I'm not in Kent but did the 11+ there many years ago. Good luck!

ClarisseVonTrumpington Wed 16-Oct-13 06:39:35

Thanks Bonsoir! It's going to be a nerve wracking day. I've got loads of stuff planned to keep me busy (and away from obsessively hitting the refresh button on my email grin)

Bonsoir Wed 16-Oct-13 06:57:28

Deep breaths! smile

I've got Y7 applications coming up a year from now for DD and it's very competitive and hair raising here in Paris too.

ClarisseVonTrumpington Wed 16-Oct-13 07:05:20

I'm not sure when this happened to the education system but from what you are saying Bonsoir, it's obviously all over not just here! DH went to one of the top schools in Kent. He barely remembers taking the 11+!

Why they drag out the process for so long I can't understand. The schools have had the results for about three weeks and the appeals process was done and dusted in a week so why a two further weeks for the parents and children to wait and then why wait until the end of the day to give only part (pass or fail but no score) of the result?!
Not to mention the schools allocation not being until march and then with the appeals system being so slow after that one girl who lives near me didn't get a school place until July (starting in Sept). The whole system needs a radical overhaul.
Oh and while I'm at it, sort the friggin test out Kent (although this is allegedly happening) how about introducing a proper literacy element and most importantly input from the school about the child.
<and breathes>

Ah that's better <air kisses probably slightly reeling Bonsoir> grin

PatoBanton Wed 16-Oct-13 07:13:32

Hi the HT is away this week so goodness knows when we get our scores.

Have asked school if they have someone else nominated to dispense this info.

I'm not expecting a pass particularly so if he does, it's a bonus! But I do want to know how near he got iyswim. He tried very hard.

Good luck smile

PatoBanton Wed 16-Oct-13 07:14:34

If they had asked the school about ds we would be well and truly sunk grin

Bonsoir Wed 16-Oct-13 07:18:55

In 1977 my day the test took place in January and the school allocation was received during the Easter holidays.

Ladymuck Wed 16-Oct-13 07:24:12

Good luck!

We have parents evening today, and it sounds as if we will get the scores then. Not sure I want to read them in front of ds's form teacher (who I've only met twice).

ClarisseVonTrumpington Wed 16-Oct-13 07:50:53

Oh blimey no. Every reaction judged Ladymuck, that would be awful. Secretly of course I would love dd to get a superselective score so that all options are open to her. In reality of course, that is very unlikely to happen but I wouldn't want to be judged for not being thrilled with a pass. Of course, if she's failed then there would be tears all round and that would be awful too!
Oh and I'm a teacher. I KNOW we judge grin

ClarisseVonTrumpington Wed 16-Oct-13 07:51:59

Pato - maybe the year 6 teacher could give out scores or the deputy head?

Ladymuck Wed 16-Oct-13 08:51:45

Hmm, I'm not sure in what format I'll get the results, so I'll have to bring my poker face!

MissStrawberry Wed 16-Oct-13 08:57:23

You can ask for the scores!

With the 11+ results a couple of weeks ago the scores were given.

MissStrawberry Wed 16-Oct-13 08:58:59

OP, why did you put your child in for the 11+ when you clearly hate it all so much?

DontmindifIdo Wed 16-Oct-13 09:03:55

MissStrawberry - because the alternative schools aren't great in some areas, so it's the only way to get in the school you want...

Not doing it this year, but in Kent and know a lot of harrassed parents this week (who are all trying very hard to act like it doesn't matter to their DCs). Good luck!

(Oh, I know a few people who grew up round here who say they don't remember taking it but must have done as they went to the grammer schools, I think they used to make much less of a big deal out of it in some schools so it would seem to just be another class test.)

RussiansOnTheSpree Wed 16-Oct-13 09:05:46

We got the results from our first preference GS (not Kent, obviously) on Monday. They came out just after 5pm. One of the longer days I've had to live through. Luckily DD2 was in the definitely in category so that was a relief. Good luck to all the Kent people today (and anywhere else getting results)

Ladymuck Wed 16-Oct-13 09:12:08

We get results today, Friday and next Tuesday. And I maybe suffering from PMT as well. Just be glad you don't know me in real life...

LemonEmmaP Wed 16-Oct-13 10:15:19

We're waiting here too, although we've already had DS's results for our local borough last week, plus another selective school. Luckily DS has passed the two we've had so far, so I can be quite relaxed about the Kent ones. I certainly wasn't relaxed for the local one last week! Good luck, and hope you get the right result for your DC.

Bemused33 Wed 16-Oct-13 10:21:08

Birminghams are meant to come on Friday by post but the rumours are we should have them tomorrow.

Dibbleofficer Wed 16-Oct-13 10:23:38

Lady muck are the other 2 results outstanding , Wilson's and WCGS?
Did you DD sit St Os , how did he go?

Ladymuck Wed 16-Oct-13 10:30:48

Yes, we're waiting on those two. The transport links to St Os don't work for us, so we're not in the mix for that one.

Dibbleofficer Wed 16-Oct-13 10:41:40

Good luck , we are in the same boat.

ClarisseVonTrumpington Wed 16-Oct-13 10:45:59

Miss Strawberry - I'm sure the answer is obvious but it is because the nearest two school to us are utterly dire. My dd is academically able and I want her to be challenged and learning in an environment where academic success is celebrated. My bright dh went to the local crap comp (before going to grammar) where he was picked on for being clever! Clearly I want the best for my dd and if it means towing the line with this ridiculous system then so be it.

PatoBanton Wed 16-Oct-13 10:51:30

MissS - with respect - that's like saying to someone on the Titanic, 'if you don't like lifeboats, why did you get in one?' grin

I thought you were from round here, you're a bit West of us though...from what I recall. did they get the results 2 weeks ago there then?

PatoBanton Wed 16-Oct-13 10:57:33

I should say, I hate the system too - but where we live, it's either take the test or resign yourself to one of the following:

1. Academy which is flooded with funding and facilities but produces the kind of children who jaywalk merrily home with their fingers up to passing motorists and I think ds would be torn to pieces there

2. religious school with dilapidated facilities and strange ideas thatwon't take us anyway without up to date baptism/communion certificates

3. other religious school where bullying is RIFE

4. school in special measures BUT you get a free ipad

5. Other school in special measures without the free ipad

So we decided to give it a go, as it were...without the funding for private education that's kind of the only option.

PatoBanton Wed 16-Oct-13 10:59:07

And I have no illusions about Ds being academic. He's not. But he is nice and I want him to be Ok...that's all I have to say about it really.

Any school will do as long as it is humane.

Ladymuck Wed 16-Oct-13 11:11:43

School admissions seem to vary so much depending on your area. I have looked at all the schools within commuting distance, and despite having the luxury of up to 6 choices for my form, there is no school available to him that I can be reasonably certain he will get into. That may change if he gets a good grammar school score. But our local schools have admission policies which give priority to feeder schools, religious activities, aptitude tests etc. Even the school which has had the lowest results historically now requires Ds to sit an NVR test to put him into a band before choosing children from that band randomly! At least with the 11 plus I can understand the approach. I'm still struggling to explain to Ds why he needs to give up a Saturday morning to sit a banding test when he may still get rejected regardless of how he does confused

MissStrawberry Wed 16-Oct-13 14:43:12

Yes, my question does show my naivety and luck I suppose that we have a lot of schools to choose from and most are good. Apologies for any offenceblushcake

wannaBe Wed 16-Oct-13 15:59:25

waiting here too.

at least we do get the results on the day, had to wait foor the post for Bexley/ST O's.

PatoBanton Wed 16-Oct-13 16:34:43

No worries MissS, it's no problem smile

Maybe we should move to there!

tiggytape Wed 16-Oct-13 18:43:38

Good luck to all those waiting.

Ladymuck Wed 16-Oct-13 20:21:31

Well, we got the email. Now just a very long wait until March. Or beyond.

Xoanon Wed 16-Oct-13 20:40:16

ladymuck Do you not get a reasonable indication of your chances?

Ladymuck Wed 16-Oct-13 22:17:53

I do. This year he would have got a place in our preferred school from the waiting list at the end of April.....

Xoanon Wed 16-Oct-13 22:23:30

Is this your most preferred school of all, or the most preferred of the schools you know about so far (I think you were going for the sutton schools as well?) Anyway - that's really good, the wait is horrible but it sounds as though he will be fine and as though he has done really well.

It is a horrible process though.

ClarisseVonTrumpington Wed 16-Oct-13 22:41:56

A pass here too and a decent one so we can try for all the schools dd liked on the list. We are out of area though so who knows what will happen in March.

Hope everyone has got the news they were hoping for.

tallulah Wed 16-Oct-13 22:45:06

"most importantly input from the school about the child" is how they did it in the 1990s. If the HT didn't want your child to go to grammar she could block your application by "recommending" them as suitable for High School. And there was not a damn thing you could do about that.

Also in those days you didn't find out whether they'd passed until you got the allocation letter, plus they operated a First preference system so that if you put the Grammar first and your nearest High School second then failed the Kent Test the High School would be full up with first preferences.

We had to put the High School first for DC4 then accept the place and appeal for the Grammar, and despite doing exactly as we were told by the LA and the Grammar, the High School rang on the first day of school to ask where DS was.

It is a much better system now.

ClarisseVonTrumpington Thu 17-Oct-13 06:32:20

It shouldn't be within the power of the Headteacher to 'block' you but the evidence of (moderated) school assessment (voluntary SATS, work in books etc) SHOULD contribute to the decision.

This would
a) prevent children who are tutored to death, scrape a pass and then struggle to cope at grammar, getting a grammar place
b) help children who are bright and work hard but freeze up on an exam (aged 10 yrs old FFS) to get a place.

Honestly any experienced Yr6 teacher could pick out in 30 seconds the children who would thrive at grammar school. TBH I teach year 3/4 at the moment and I could probably already tell you now which children are suitable for grammar school. Of course, it couldn't be done like that, as I said before, there would need to be evidence.

Ladymuck Thu 17-Oct-13 08:40:34

Xoanan, it would be our preferred state school. I suspect that ds will end up at an independent school, but there seems to be a surge in applications, and he isn't quite dazzling enough to allow complacency! And schools everywhere seem to have introduced random or restrictive admissions which may deprive us of a "local comp" option, let alone a "local good comp" option.

Congrats Clarisse!

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