What Stationary Bits will my Son need for year 7?

(65 Posts)
Julezboo Fri 02-Aug-13 10:40:31

Seems a long time since I had to buy for myself!!!! I have hit a brick wall. Its so worrying this year 7 stuff!

basildonbond Fri 02-Aug-13 11:24:16

Pen, pencils, colour pencils, ruler, scissors, glue stick - that's what ds needed for Y7 plus compass, protractor etc but not immediately

At ds's school everything is written in school-provided exercise books so they don't need paper and folders etc until later

Have the school not given you a list?

tiggytape Fri 02-Aug-13 11:39:49

long ruler and protractor for maths and also a scientific calculator but wait and see because some schools have particular models they want you to get

Zingy123 Fri 02-Aug-13 12:03:05

My niece needed loads of sticky back plastic, they had to cover all their books.

trinity0097 Fri 02-Aug-13 12:22:21

I would buy the Casio fx 83/85 calculator, the one you can get I most supermarkets, they come in black, blue, Pi and for the first time this year white. It is well made and will last until the end of gcses in terms of it's functions. Most supermarkets include it in their back to school offers when they do those.

But a cheap geometry set, but keep it at home. A long ruler is not necessary for most of the time, either buy a 15cm one if your kid has a small pencil case, or a folding one, long ones get post as they don't fit in pencil cases.

Identify everything, but doesn't need to be as e,harassing as a name on things like pens and pencils, a blob of nail varnish will do!

Have plenty of spares at home, e.g. Pens, pencils, but just a couple at a time to take to school!

Anthracite Fri 02-Aug-13 12:55:05

Add to the other suggestions with memory stick and dictionaries.

xylem8 Fri 02-Aug-13 13:29:29

Get calculator, dictionaries through school they will be able to buy them much more cheaply.Glue stick is a must, plus all the normal pen, pencils,coloured pencils rulers .Lots of spares.Probably won't need a memory stick as there will be a portal to get onto his school files from home.

xylem8 Fri 02-Aug-13 13:29:50

Oh and brown paper for covering textbooks

I love the idea of a calculator coming in Pi! grin

Julezboo Fri 02-Aug-13 13:57:43

Thanks all. School only gave us a uniform list. Feel like Im going in blind. Or rather he is. Not thats hes all that bothered lol

What is Pi?

Julezboo Fri 02-Aug-13 13:59:27

ah tis meant to be Pink grin

Talkinpeace Fri 02-Aug-13 17:00:46

DCs school sold us their ideal pencil case fully set up and calculator at the July induction evening when they met their tutors

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 17:27:55

DS is in y8 & gets by with:

Clunky calculator (big button ones are popular, only need very basic functions at this point)
1 pencil
1 pen (occasional inconsistent demands about what sort)
a protractor with ruler side.

Hulababy Fri 02-Aug-13 17:34:29

We were sent a list. Got it all sorted yesterday infact.

We have:
Pencil case
Coloured pencils
Ink pen and cartridges or roller ball pen
Glue stuck
A4 wallet
A4 ring binder

For art:
Set of drawing pencils - HB, 2B, 4B
Set of coloured pencils
Pencil sharpener
Black Niro
Black water soluble fine line pen

For maths:
Scientific calculator
Pair of compasses
Set square

For languages:
Ear phones

Also an English dictionary

Hulababy Fri 02-Aug-13 17:35:51

Trinity - that's the calculator model DD for yesterday. In blue. Good to hear a positive review of it smile

deleted203 Fri 02-Aug-13 17:43:02

stationery grin. I thought you were after something to stop your child, such as brakes...

Just make sure he turns up with a ruddy pen - I am sick to death of pupils arriving at my lessons without a pen. God knows how they think they'll get by without having something to write with!

HeyCarrieAnn Fri 02-Aug-13 18:35:37

Ds's list for last year similar to Hulababy's plus memory stick plus dictionaries for both MFLs.

I would inclined to think that if they haven't provided a list, they're likely to be less fussy (not as worried about both HB and 2B pencils for art for a start!)

Scientific calculator would normally be used from year 7 in top sets for maths, I would have thought...

trinity0097 Fri 02-Aug-13 18:44:08

It's the one I recommend, I am a Head of Maths! I buy it in pink as the boys as less likely to steal mine if they are pink!

Redlocks30 Fri 02-Aug-13 18:47:31

Do secondary school children write mostly in pen or pencil??! If pen-are biros ok or to be avoided? Any pen recommendations??

HeyCarrieAnn Fri 02-Aug-13 18:54:31

Pen for everything except for labelling diagrams which could be done in pencil in some schools. Drawing lines to label diagrams should be done in pencil.

If schools don't specify type of pen, then they probably don't mind.

Ds (and most of his mates - and many of the dc at my school) use Pilot Frixion pens - they're erasable, so ideal for perfectionists like ds. But I have an idea in the back of my head that they may not be allowed in external exams so I need to find that out and phase them out if so. They are also very expensive but very much worth it for ds, who loves to be able to correct mistakes and he can write beautifully with them too.

HeyCarrieAnn Fri 02-Aug-13 19:00:51

Ds asked for a scientific calc for his birthday in year 5 (bit of a maths geek) and my dm bought him the most expensive one she could find because it had 297 functions and the cheaper one only had 263 or something...little bit of overkill there!

Julezboo Fri 02-Aug-13 19:46:58

School have done an Art Pack for £12.50. So all art type stuff is sorted.

I have pens, pencils, (69p ones from sainsburys!) Rubber, ruler, maths set, pencilc case 30cm ruler.

Today I ordered Calulator, highlighters and sticky black plastic for his books.

DS1 has Poor Auditory Memory So I expect this will all be lost within the first week!

I have copied Hulababy's list though to get the rest. Thank you. Making me feel old having a boy starting Secondary School!

LadyMilfordHaven Fri 02-Aug-13 19:48:46

DONT give him all the pens at once.

TWO only ever,

and dont give the maths set till he needs it in maths

DO NOT EVER give named pencils at secondary.

LadyMilfordHaven Fri 02-Aug-13 19:49:08

Hulas list is WAY over the top tbh

Julezboo Fri 02-Aug-13 19:55:09

LadyMilfordHaven (Suspect you are only down the road from me!)

I plan on having lots of spares. Tbh its the uniform Im worried about. I bought two jumpers, two polos and rugby shirt for him in the first lot and that cost me close to £100. If he keeps losing that I wont be happy!

By named pencils, do you mean with his name on? lol I can still name his uniform cant I.

I imagine Hulababy's list is just about right for DS's schools its number one school in Wales smile

wineoclocktimeyet Fri 02-Aug-13 20:08:09

DS1 has a USB stick on list as well.

LadyMilfordHaven Fri 02-Aug-13 21:20:33

i dont give a shit what number school it is - they wil lost it ALL before they need it. Eton or bloody Grange hill.

LadyMilfordHaven Fri 02-Aug-13 21:20:56

they shouldnt need a USB if they use dropbox

Talkinpeace Fri 02-Aug-13 21:23:14

they NEED at least one USB

geeky parent here
too many chances of software crashes the night before deadlines
have your data in 3 places

and as 4gb are now £5 at maplins there is NO excuse

LadyMilfordHaven Fri 02-Aug-13 21:23:48

more likely to lose USB
but hey I dont really give a shit

Movingtimes Fri 02-Aug-13 21:26:50

they shouldnt need a USB if they use dropbox

Lots of schools operate a very wide-ranging internet filter system which blocks lots of useful sites including Dropbox.

Even more of a pain for us teachers <bitter emoticon>

Hulababy Fri 02-Aug-13 21:32:27

LadyMilfordHaven - maybe for some schools, but clearly not for DD's school as this is the required list we have been given.

DD doesn't need a USB as they have a school portal they use.

Talkinpeace Fri 02-Aug-13 21:32:54

a couple of years back, DCs school had a fire
it was only a small fire, in one room
but that fire happened to take out the fuse boxes for the whole school (1500 pupils)
they were shut for nearly a term, but with good use of technology the GCSEs held up
memory sticks were essential as kids (who may not have internet at home) had to log on where they could

even further back, I was network manager for a company that had EVERY SINGLE computer stolen one night

dropbox is great if you have a computer and the right access

give me memory stick backup any day
GF : f : S
look it up if you do not know

UnderwaterBasketWeaving Fri 02-Aug-13 21:34:19

Please, please, I beg of you and all other parents: please make them take calculators, protractors, pencils and rulers to science lessons too. We do all kinds of mathsy things at the drop of a hat, and so rarely do they have... anything.

Actually, if I'm honest, turning up with their own exercise book and a pen would be progress.

Hulababy Fri 02-Aug-13 21:36:27

As staff I had to fight with LEA to get dropbox reinstated! We are now allowed it at my school - phew!

DD is used to having to have her own pencil case of stuff inc coloured pencils, glue, scissors, ink pen and cartridges, etc for primary. Not lost much, if any, so far.

UnderwaterBasketWeaving Fri 02-Aug-13 21:37:37

Oh, and re: Dropbox (which I cannot function without), another option I recommend is a google drive account (can set up with school email) which syncs in to things like Edmodo.com, if your school uses it.

Google drive also allows kids to work collaborately on group work without actually having to be together. It's brilliant!

(School blockage issues notwithstanding)

Talkinpeace Fri 02-Aug-13 21:51:00

"LEA" : what about academy schools

"google drive" : how many of your kids have to log on at the public library?
in DCs school its around 6-10% which is 80 to 100 kids
and there are only 5 terminals at the two libraries
think about resilience
one big solar storm in the runup to a project deadline and the internet could be running at 10% for two days

HeyCarrieAnn Fri 02-Aug-13 21:53:42

Ds hasn't lost a single thing (though he has used up plenty of pens and his cheap stapler broke) and has used all of his equipment. Can't see how he could have done the work in many subjects without that much equipment, including a proper calculator (a basic one doesn't even have pi on it?)

UnderwaterBasketWeaving Fri 02-Aug-13 22:01:25

"one big solar storm in the runup to a project deadline and the internet could be running at 10% for two days"

Wait, I thought we were talking about new year 7s, not NASA

Talkinpeace Fri 02-Aug-13 22:04:00

get your new year 7 to read more of the science press
I am not in the teeeniest bit joking

UnderwaterBasketWeaving Fri 02-Aug-13 22:04:07

(At Uncaged Monkeys a few years back, Simon Singh was talking about how we warn future civilisations not to use/live on/farm on areas where nuclear waste had been 'disposed of', he recommended carving stone tablets with some decipherable hieroglyphs - since digital media, paper, and even currently extant languages would not persist long enough.

Should we buy them chisels?)

UnderwaterBasketWeaving Fri 02-Aug-13 22:05:28

I read the science press. You need to relax, we are still only talking about children, and children's lovely work.

If the whole Internet is knocked out, teachers won't be worrying about the kids homework.

UnderwaterBasketWeaving Fri 02-Aug-13 22:06:08

Oh, and can we remember "science press" is as reliable as the daily fail much of the time.

DS1 (starting Y8) and DS2 (starting Y7) have the following each:

Scientific calculator
Fountain pen
Spare cartridges
Spare handwriting pen
HB pencils
Colouring pencils
15cm ruler
Ink eraser
Maths set (protractor, compasses etc)
30cm ruler

Padlock (for locker)
USB stick

DS1 saves his work in a designated folder on the laptop which gets backed up automatically to the PC daily (via home network) and to the external hard drive weekly.

Also glue sticks, but DS1 rarely uses them to stick any of the countless pieces of paper into any of his exercise books.

HeyCarrieAnn Fri 02-Aug-13 22:14:51

My ds has only done three bits of homework on the pc all year (IT x 2 and science x 1). He has got through about 36 pens though (at almost £2 each!)

tiggytape Fri 02-Aug-13 22:18:16

I am not sure that DS produced anything so significant in Year 7 that contingency measures would be needed in case of solar storms.
One of his geography projects was quite good and won him a prize but I don't think it would be much of a loss to human kind if it was wiped out in an internet disaster wink

DS1 needed the extra functions on the calculator from the beginning of Y7: there are calculator papers in the school's internal assessments and most basic calculators don't have buttons for powers/indices, roots etc.

Ds (now going into Y10) needed a scientific calculator pretty much from the start of Y7. They needed some of the functions almost from the start. He has used it almost daily for the past 3 years.

Other than that he has managed to get by with a decent set of pens (although he will write with anything and in both black and blue, both are allowed at his school), a handful of standard pencils, sharpener, eraser, compass set for maths, ruler and some coloured pencils.

And yy, get sticky back plastic, ds's first set of homeworks in Y7 was to decorate his exercise books (which were supplied by the school) with topic-appropriate pictures and then to sticky back them.
Funnily enough this was not a requirement in Y8 and Y9 but it is obviously a task they enjoy setting the Y7s grin

HeyCarrieAnn Fri 02-Aug-13 22:43:49

That's what I was thinking, too, indices etc...(but kept calling them 'powers' in my head - overfried brain!)

ChippyMinton Sat 03-Aug-13 21:57:25

Good to know the casio calulator is standard, as I bought DS one yesterday - solar powered so no excuse for dead batteries.

Have all the bits but cannot find a pencil case. Ds wants one that has elastic loops for all the pens etc, but the only ones I can find are baby-ish character sets. Any suggestions?

trinity0097 Sun 04-Aug-13 09:11:56

Tell him that kids in secondary schools don't have those types of pencil cases, especially boys!

This is the most common one (and style) for boys www.whsmith.co.uk/Products/GUL-Pencil-Case+Stationery+23723917

ChippyMinton Sun 04-Aug-13 14:13:30

Are they all surfers then? wink

is humour acceptable?

DS1 had the standard barrel pencil cases (complete with surfing company logo) but has found most of them to either be too small to fit calculator, maths set etc, or so big that they take up too much space on the desk. He has chosen one of these for Y9; in black, not pink. grin

HmmAnOxfordComma Mon 05-Aug-13 12:06:49

Yep, my ds has one of those double pocketed ones, too (a camo one from Smiths). He like it because he has essentials in the front pocket (pens/pencils/rubber/gluestick/small ruler) and 'less frequently useds' in the back (coloured pencils/scissors/stapler/compass and protractor/memory stick etc). He likes to be very organised!

Takver Mon 05-Aug-13 13:06:17

We've been told:

Bring from day 1: 2 x working pens, several pencils including coloured, sharpener, rubber, metric ruler, pocket dictionary

School will sell appropriate calculator cheaply to dc once they start.

NO liquid paper

sounds simple enough smile We are also quite near Milford Haven . . .

Takver Mon 05-Aug-13 13:06:45

Sorry, missed protractor and compasses from list

Takver Mon 05-Aug-13 13:07:24

I'm not worrying about this one as dd generally carries enough stationary to start her own branch of Smiths grin

trinity0097 Mon 05-Aug-13 18:15:22

Btw the Casio calculator is on sale in sainsburys as part of the buy one get one free offer, so for £11 if you team up with a friend who can have 2 scientific calculators. I know that through school suppliers I can usually have to pay at least £6 for each one! I now recommend that parents get them themselves and not through school as it's cheaper!

trinity0097 Mon 05-Aug-13 18:16:47

Btw the Casio calculator is on sale in sainsburys as part of the buy one get one free offer, so for £11 if you team up with a friend who can have 2 scientific calculators. I know that through school suppliers I can usually have to pay at least £6 for each one! I now recommend that parents get them themselves and not through school as it's cheaper!

ChippyMinton Mon 05-Aug-13 21:04:52

I got the Sainsbury deal, bought one for DS2 for when he goes up next year. They are the solar powered ones too smile

trinity0097 Tue 06-Aug-13 17:05:58

Last year I actually bought a stock for my classroom on the same deal as it was cheaper than school suppliers as the supermarkets can afford to make a smaller percentage profit on each unit sold! Think the woman on the checkouts thought I was a bit mad for buying 10 in one go, but hey I saved the school about £60!

Whathaveiforgottentoday Wed 07-Aug-13 00:21:55

Just the basics as most have outlined but do remind your DS that this is one area in life where they don't have to share.
If his 'mates' want to borrow his coloured pencils etc the answer is no! Some students can be thoughtless when using other's peoples stuff and it takes year 7's a while to work that out. Not all students of course, but we often have issues with students kindly lending stuff that comes back broken or not at all.
yy to bringing calculators to science and short rulers are often more convenient for day to day use as they fit in the pencil case. I have a set of long rulers if we're doing graph work.
I lend out pens but only in exchange for something of worth (lunch card etc) but tends to be mainly yrs 10 and 11 (too cool for pencil cases!)

trinity0097 Wed 07-Aug-13 07:00:24

I can honestly say that in my 13 teaching career as a maths teacher I have not really needed to get the children to use a long ruler at all! A short one is sufficient and I would always lend a long one if they needed it, especially if I could see that they had bothered to bring a short one!

JenaiMorris Wed 07-Aug-13 08:22:50

Like many organisations, Ds's school don't allow anything non-school to be connected to school kit, so USBs are out.

They can save work to the school's storage areas, which are accessible and savable to from home, and/or email.

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