Would you contact school about this? Really odd lessons.

(39 Posts)
Vivalebeaver Sat 17-Nov-12 22:16:08

Dd is in yr 7.

First couple of weeks there she mentioned something about a history lesson I thought was odd. But it was first few weeks and I thought maybe the teacher is settling them in.

Dd said they were watching a documentary and everyone was bored. Teacher realised this and stopped the film and let everyone come and draw faces on the board instead.

Then last week dd mentions that her history lesson was about the history of Nicky Minaj's breasts! Apparently this pop star has had a boob job so that's history. She used to have small boobs in the past, now she has big ones.

She's never had any history homework.

Dd says most of her lessons not just history are really easy and that she's bored.

Oh and drama homework this week is to write a leaflet of a fake illness and put the leaflet in your GPs surgery waiting room. I keep asking her if she's sure but she's adamant and she has written it in her planner.

I'm more bothered about the history.

shellyf Sat 17-Nov-12 22:21:15

History of Nicky Minaj seems strange and inapproptiate for Y7.You could ask to see a topic outline for the term,most schools would hopefully be happy to share with you.

very odd. Find the leaflet vey weird - not even a hisotorical illness? How will he mark them??

mummytime Sat 17-Nov-12 22:24:31

The first one sounds like a cover lesson to me, with a frazzled Cover Supervisor.

Vivalebeaver Sat 17-Nov-12 22:28:42

They've been learning about the made up illness in drama. It's called mouseophobia or something. I don't know what drawing leaflets has to do with drama.

Anyway I'm telling dd not to other with her drama homework at all. If the teacher wants to see the leaflet she can tell him she left it at the doctors waiting room as per instructions.

The first history lesson wasn't a cover teacher, it was normal one. Dd has been telling me how cool Miss H is. hmm

Don't think there's a parents evening till
April which is a shame.

SoggySummer Sat 17-Nov-12 22:29:00

That sounds mad!

Perhaps the Nicki Minaj thing (clutching at straws here but bear with me) is a teacher trying (in some kind of weird way) to try and make the kids see how history is relevant/they are making history themselves kind of thing?????

The drs waiting rooms leaflet - odd again. I dont get the historical lesson there at all and how do all the local Drs surgeries feel about a loadd of 11 and 12yos leaving home-made fictional leaflets in their waiting rooms? How will these leaflets get graded and marked??

Are you sure your DC has grasped the concept correctly???

lljkk Sat 17-Nov-12 22:31:11

I would ask school about it.

Vivalebeaver Sat 17-Nov-12 22:31:26

The made up illness is drama not history.

Her friends are backing her up on this. I've not asked them about the history lessons but one of her friends has photos on her fb page of lots of kids drawing faces on the board which ties in with what she says.

ProphetOfDoom Sat 17-Nov-12 22:32:05

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Dominodonkey Sat 17-Nov-12 22:35:31

I am always one of the first to defend teachers as they often get a bad rap but this all sounds very strange and inappropriate.

I agree with schmaltzing - contact the HOY to check what she should be doing. HOY will generally go to Heads of dept or Assistant heads if they concerned about what is being set.

Vivalebeaver Sat 17-Nov-12 22:35:47

That sounds a good way of putting it Maltida, was trying to think how to word it. Thanks, will send an email saying I'm worried dd isn't bringing her history homework back, etc.

ProphetOfDoom Sat 17-Nov-12 22:36:07

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ProphetOfDoom Sat 17-Nov-12 22:45:42

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Kez100 Sun 18-Nov-12 03:30:37

There may be some sense in the Drama work. She may want to work on illness but prefer not to pick a genuine illness because someone may know someone with it, and that can be personally upsetting. Drama is about thinking outside of your own shoes, so there may be a basis to it and further work.

History is just plain weird.

ThreeTomatoes Sun 18-Nov-12 10:44:38

All weird, i saw your post before anyone had replied and actually wondered if it was for real! I would def phone the school and express your concerns.

The drama one i would be convinced that dd had got it wrong, I wouldn't allow her to put the leaflet in the GP's waiting room! This sounds utterly bizarre to me. It must surely be design a leaflet for a GP's waiting room, hypothetical.

Re history i would want to know what the hell the syllabus was and what those breasts have to do with it- and also the approach that is taken, i would not want those girls to start thinking about the size of their breasts, for e.g....

IDontDoIroning Sun 18-Nov-12 11:03:18

Its possible the nikki minaj thing is an example of historical time lines, famous figures and personalities and the effect if the digital age. But I think you could ask for clarification.

I would be concerned about putting a fake leaflet in a GP's waiting room.

It could be upsetting for very ill people and depending on whatever this fake illness is it could actually resemble a real illness or present symptoms of a real illness. I think it's not clearly thought out and irresponsible.

I think the surgery would not want unsolicited info being left on their premises purporting to be a genuine document.

Is it something along the lines of the big hoaxes schools have put in the past ie crashed spaceships / robberies etc. If so its for the potential to backfire on the school.

This could easily lead to complaints to the school.

I would clarify this issue too

trinity0097 Sun 18-Nov-12 11:41:17

To be honest my first concern would be that children are using mobiles in class to take pictures!

ThreeTomatoes Sun 18-Nov-12 12:16:00

grin I thought that too!

bigTillyMint Sun 18-Nov-12 12:25:37

This all sounds completely bizarre and nothing like the history my DC or those of friends at other schools do. Plus the leaflet in the GP's, mobile phones in lessons, faces on board....

Is the history curriculum for Y7 available on the school website or maybe you got a handout at a Parents Induction Evening or something? Otherwise, I would contact the school and say you would like to know what they expect the Y7 to cover in their history curriculum.

BooksandaCuppa Sun 18-Nov-12 16:30:34

That is the most bizarre yr 7 story I've ever heard. If I hadn't regularly seen you posting sensible comments I would have thought you were mad.

Agree you should contact the HOY and say that you are really worried that your dd is not listening properly/understanding the syllabus/homework because surely these are not really what she is being asked to do in lessons/for homework?

Ds is doing the Norman Conquest in yr 7 history as are the yr 7s at my school and those of my friends in other schools...

Who the flip is Nicky Menaj? And I wouldn't be happy at all about the use of phones in the classroom. They are banned completely at ds's and our school, with infringements dealt with severely. There is a very good reason for this: child protection.

Together with other comments you've made, Id be really worried about this school (and I think you might be roughly in my area - so I kind of wish I knew what school you were talking about to maybe warn friends off...!)

Themumsnot Sun 18-Nov-12 16:34:18

OK history lesson sounds weird, could do with clarification.

Drama sounds completely normal assuming, as I would, that your DD has got the wrong end of the stick and the leaflet is to be brought into school for use in a drama lesson set in a GP waiting room.

Using phones to take photos in class - WTAF?

BooksandaCuppa Sun 18-Nov-12 16:35:08

(Just to clarify my last paragraph, I have namechanged recently but we were both on a thread discussing specific schools a while back - at least I'm sure it was you...!)

Themumsnot Sun 18-Nov-12 16:35:28

Faces on the board to be fair could have a rationale. In my subject, English, I can see how I might use them as a quick recap or plenary.

Vivalebeaver Sun 18-Nov-12 17:58:02

Dd is still adamant about the drama leaflet. The teacher told them they could choose what level they wanted to do their homework at. They could either write a bit in general about the illness, more advanced could be to do a list of symptoms and high level would be to do the leaflet. The teacher according to dd then went on to say and you could leave the leaflet in your local doctors waiting room if you wanted to.

Maybe he was joking, but it was a stupid joke. I would normally make dd do the higher level of homework but I told her she could do one of the lower levels for this if she wanted.

I'm going to talk to another mum I know next week and try and find out if her DS has said anything about the history lessons.

Vivalebeaver Sun 18-Nov-12 17:59:33

Booksandcuppa, yes I'm worried the HOY might think I'm mad when I ring up. I've already had to contact her last week as some nasty kid was using dd as a punchbag. I've PM'd you details of the school by the way.

ThreeTomatoes Sun 18-Nov-12 20:50:21

It must have been a joke?!

TBH I think I would just laugh it off with dd, i'd be saying "What? no, he wouldn't have said that!" and then, "Well, do the leaflet if you want but you're NOT putting in the doctor's waiting room!!" Chances are when the homework is supposed to handed in (surely it should be??) it'll all come to light.

I would call and ask about the history syllabus though, that's all very odd. I've had a quick google of the yr7 history syllabus and it's all romans, norman conquest, castles & the like. Maybe throw in a remark about the drama homework at the end of the call?

BackforGood Sun 18-Nov-12 22:58:16

I wouldn't wait to talk to other parents, I'd do as others have suggested - e-mail or phone (I'd go for the Head of Department myself) and say, as a genuine question that you were wondering if you could find out somewhere what they are supposed to be studying in History, and what homework they should be getting, as, from what your daughter has said is happening, she's clearly got confused somewhere along the line, and you'd just like to get it cleared up.
the HoD will be concerned enough to investigate, without you having had to go in with guns blazing in a complaining parent type way.

NoSoggyBottoms Thu 22-Nov-12 00:49:30

Vivalebeaver Just read your thread and how...erm...weird! Doesn't sound right to me. My DS is also Y7 but hasn't been given any h/w like that and hasn't told me about any bizarre lessons as you mentioned.

Anyway, I hope you have followed this up in school and hope you come back to tell us what the school said as I'm nosey intrigued grin

picketywick Thu 22-Nov-12 11:59:12

Have a quiet word with other parents first

Tigerstripes Thu 22-Nov-12 12:31:37

This sounds bonkers. As a teacher I'm really intrigued by this! Please come back and tell us what happened when you enquired!

VivaLeBeaver Thu 22-Nov-12 17:59:35

I've spoken to other parents and general consensus from those with older kids is that her lessons are quite dull.

The only thing I can think is that she was trying to get the kids interest by maybe just briefly mentioning something relevant to them. I'm struggling to pin down from dd how long they were actually talking about this pop stars boobs.

So I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt for now and will quiz dd at length about future lessons.

I've looked through dd's planner and quite a few subjects she only seems to have had two or three bits of homework in total, history, geography, science, French. Only seems to be English, maths, art, dt and re where she's getting much homework. Again other parents say this is normal.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 22-Nov-12 18:00:00

Sorry for an I interesting update.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 22-Nov-12 18:09:34


NoSoggyBottoms Thu 22-Nov-12 19:06:43

Thanks for the update!

Just to mention, my Y7 DS gets fairly regular homework for Literacy and maths. He has had some homework for RE, art, geography (but that was only name 2 local restaurants and which countries they are from) and technology.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 22-Nov-12 19:10:15

Other parents with older kids say the homework situation is a bit slack in Year 7 but steps up in Yr 8 and by Yr 9 they have loads. I'll probably be complaining in a couple of years about her having too much.

Though I went to a grammar and my memories are of 90 mins of homework a night. I thought it would be like that but obviously not.

slalomsuki Thu 22-Nov-12 19:20:27

Another year 7 and another Norman Conquest history lesson here. This weeks history has been write 1000 words on England after the Norman invasion. It's gone on and on and on and on ........

Homework every evening here, sometimes only 10 mins per subject and sometimes an hour but it seems to add to what they have done in class and is always in the class books so I get to see them.

I would be a bit concerned about the relevance of the lesson and the phones but would make light of it at this stage keeping a watchful brief for the future.

deste Sat 24-Nov-12 22:15:27

My DD is a secondary school drama teacher, I will ask her tomorrow and see what she says.

deste Sun 25-Nov-12 23:00:48

I asked my DD and she said to contact the school and ask the teacher to check her planner to see it was copied down properly. She did suggest that they might be doing some role play about a doctors surgery or something similar, but she looked very surprised when I described it.

deleted203 Wed 28-Nov-12 03:53:11

Just come across this - and as a secondary History teacher my eyebrows are raised in amazement! Normally Y7 should be doing Norman Conquest, Medieval England and Castles, roughly speaking. I can't think of a scheme of work that includes Nicky Minaj's boobs! I'd be more concerned about this than the drama work as drama has a lot more flexibility generally than History does.

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