How can he have a U grade in with a grades for biology module ?

(25 Posts)
SunnySummerDays Fri 26-Aug-16 23:15:52

Hi ds got B overall for physics with aqa but his individual four grades were B A B U!!!

The U was 42 marks too. Which seems odd if 82 got B 76 b. Surely 42 would give more than u even if true ?

It was aqa and I have no idea how to convert percentages back to grades from the aqa web.

I can't believe he got u in the mix of other high modules . Please can anyone tell me why he may have U?

Perhaps he missed a page or they couldn't read writing ?

Thanks for any help

noblegiraffe Fri 26-Aug-16 23:23:01

The fourth module in science is the ISA isn't it? Has there been a problem with his coursework?

TheTittifersHaveSungTheirSong Fri 26-Aug-16 23:26:10

As above, also if he was sitting higher paper then it's usually only awarded grades too C possibly D then classed as U.

PurpleDaisies Fri 26-Aug-16 23:33:32

The U is his ISA. You need to score 54% (27 marks out of 50) to get a d, which is the lowest grade on the higher paper which is why he's got a U grade. 42 must be his percentage not his marks or he'd have an A.

Students can struggle with the ISA (practical paper which is basically their science coursework). Unfortunately it's very rare for schools to ask for coursework to remarked because it means resubmitting the whole cohort.

Has it affected what he wants to do next?

Parky04 Fri 26-Aug-16 23:41:11

For physics my son got C,C,U and A* which resulted in an overall C grade. Bizarre set of results!

PurpleDaisies Fri 26-Aug-16 23:44:17

Did your school do triple science in the same number of lessons as double parky? Often it's a huge rush to finish P3.

SunnySummerDays Fri 26-Aug-16 23:52:02

It was third paper ph3hp
The controlled asses was 98 a

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 00:00:36

I'm confused. What are the B A B U grades you mentioned in your op? Are they not in the order P1, P2, P3, P4?

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 00:08:58

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Parky04 Sat 27-Aug-16 00:11:54

Yes Purple that is correct. Just seems strange that in the same subject you can get a U as well as an A*! It was also the third paper that DS got a U! Must of been a difficult paper Sunny!

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 00:25:12

Ignore my previous post I'm talking bollocks.

The 42 he's got isn't 42% at all-it's 42 UMS marks. Basically everyone sits the exam and AQA scale the results to be out if 100. If he's got 42 UMS for p3 he only scored 15 out of 60 (25%).
You can look up the conversion table here to see what the mark on his results equates to in raw marks.
www.aqa.org.uk/exams-administration/results-days/grade-boundaries-and-ums/ums-converter

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 00:33:45

I've attached images in case you can't figure the converter. If you scored 3 out of 60 that gets you 8 marks. If you score 15 out of 60 that gets you 42 marks on your results sheet. It isn't linear. For super hard workers it's a bit sad that any score of 41 or over gets you 100. I hope that makes sense.

SunnySummerDays Sat 27-Aug-16 07:43:38

Hi sorry I out it in the order of my scribblings on paper trying to work out his grades from aqa website
The right order is
1 82a
2 76b
3 42 u
4 88a

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 07:46:03

That's fine sunny smile

Do the tables on my previous post make sense to you?

Tripilates Sat 27-Aug-16 07:48:31

Email the teacher and see if they thinks it's worth a remark, he either completely bombed the paper, in relation to the other two, or something has gone awry with the marking. It happens!

SunnySummerDays Sat 27-Aug-16 07:48:43

Thank you purple daisies for your help 😊

SunnySummerDays Sat 27-Aug-16 09:35:04

His hand writing is awful so I'm wondering if they gave up trying to decipher it, or he completely missed a page!
Thanks for your help, I'm going to study your attachment and get more data from it...

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 09:44:10

It won't be that they "gave up" trying to decipher it but unfortunately if you genuinely can't read what's written you can't award the marks. However, it doesn't seem to have affected the other papers so it seems unlikely to get that.

It's possible he just didn't get to grips with the P3 content. If his school had done it in the same time as the double award groups (very conmon) they often really struggle to finish the syllabus with proper time for revision.

Has his B grade actually affected any of his post 16 plans? I'd be tempted to just chalk it up to experience. He'd have to go up a long long way on a remark to get an A, although a clerical error is always possible. He needed 280 for a B and he's on 288. If he were to get an A that would have to go up to 320 overall, which means finding 13 extra marks from his P3 paper.

SunnySummerDays Sat 27-Aug-16 10:09:26

Thanks , he's doing it at a level and needed b which is what he got.
I just thought should query as do very different. He doesn't want me to query ... Worried it might go down too

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 10:13:29

If the paper mark went down by 3 marks he'd be on a C overall. He'd have to go up by 13 marks for an A. I don't think it's worth the risk when the likelihood of it going up is so slim.

Chat to the school but they'll probably say the same thing.

PurpleDaisies Sat 27-Aug-16 10:15:12

Were his maths results ok? That's a better predictor of how they'll do at A level physics than their GCSE grade in my experience.

mumsneedwine Sat 27-Aug-16 11:10:10

Might be worth asking for a clerical check. They then just make sure all the marks are added up correctly and nothing has been missed - no one reads the answers at this stage ! It's very strange to manage an A and B and then get a U, unless school didn't cover any of the P3 syllabus. A student who can get good grades should have been able to make educated guesses at P3 so it may be that something has gone wrong - worth a look.

noblegiraffe Sat 27-Aug-16 11:33:41

I noticed last year when looking at my top set maths results, that quite a few of them had unexpectedly low marks for their third science modules, some very bright kids getting Es and Us.
I think in our case it was as a pp suggested - not enough time to fit the third module properly into the time as triple science is done in the same lesson time as double.

SunnySummerDays Sat 27-Aug-16 12:35:56

Ok thanks
He got A grade maths too. Needed that at A grade to be allowed the physics with grade b!
Thanks so much all for helpful advice, really appreciate it

Helenluvsrob Sat 27-Aug-16 18:22:56

Not able to give subject specific help. However it's surprisingly easy to " bomb" a paper esp an essay one by answering the question you thought they asked rather than the one on the paper .... A perfect answer to the wrong question is still a fail.

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