By law does a school have to give a set notice period for detention or is it at their discretion?

(46 Posts)
sicily1921 Sat 07-Sep-13 15:38:00

I had a foggy idea it was 24 hours but is this right?

BeenFluffy Sat 07-Sep-13 15:42:24

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TeamEdward Sat 07-Sep-13 15:43:12

It's discretionary now.

And parents don't need to be informed in advance either.

They never did when I was at school unless it was for a school detention which was 1hr long after school. I left 9 years ago b

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ReallyTired Sat 07-Sep-13 15:44:50

Surely a school would have to tell the parents otherwise it would be a safeguarding issue. I would be worried sick if my son got home an hour late without explanation. I am sure that most schools will give 24 hours notice out of plain curtsey. It if the child being punished not the parent.

Most schools will not be inconsiderate just becuase Gove has changed the law to allow them to be gits.

ReallyTired Sat 07-Sep-13 15:48:05
BeenFluffy Sat 07-Sep-13 15:49:21

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BeenFluffy Sat 07-Sep-13 15:50:38

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sicily1921 Sat 07-Sep-13 15:51:35

Been thanks for reply but are you sure about this :- ^ They can do same day without telling parents in advance.^ shock it doesn't seem quite right to me, parents should at least be texted surely?

sicily1921 Sat 07-Sep-13 15:53:24

They can do same day without telling parents in advance yes I meant itallics above not ^^

BeenFluffy Sat 07-Sep-13 15:59:31

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BeenFluffy Sat 07-Sep-13 16:03:56

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OddBoots Sat 07-Sep-13 16:08:19

I know ds's school don't notify parents but no-one buses in and out, if they did then I hope they would call/text parents to let them know.

tiggytape Sat 07-Sep-13 16:16:38

Beenfluffy - that applies to all schools now. Schools now have a lot more powers regarding discipline and safety. From the DfE website:

"Schools don’t have to give parents notice of after school detentions or tell them why a detention has been given"

The school doesn’t need your child’s consent to search them if they think your child has prohibited items:
weapons, eg knives
alcohol
illegal drugs
stolen goods
tobacco products, eg cigarettes
pornographic images (of any kind)
fireworks
anything that has been, or is likely to be, used to cause injury or commit an offence
anything banned in the school rules
These things can be confiscated.

There should normally be 2 members of staff present during the search - the person doing the search and the search witness. Searches should normally be done by someone the same sex as your child.

The search witness must also be the same sex as your child if possible. Your child must not be asked to remove clothes, other than outer clothing like a coat.

If there’s a risk of serious harm to a person if the search is not conducted immediately, a child may be searched by a person of the opposite sex and without another member of staff present.

"School staff can use reasonable force to control and restrain pupils. This could include leading a pupil by the arm into a classroom."

tiggytape Sat 07-Sep-13 16:20:45

Head Teachers also have the power to dicipline pupils for things that happen off school property eg on the journey to or from school (that has been the case since at least 2006 as it is included in the Education and Inspections Act 2006)

tiggytape Sat 07-Sep-13 16:24:19

So in answer to OP's question (deviated a lot there!) the Head is not legally obliged to tell the parents about detentions in advance or even what they're for.
In reality though, for anything more than a 15 minute detention, the school probably would choose to inform the parents.

BeenFluffy Sat 07-Sep-13 16:26:43

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BellaVita Sat 07-Sep-13 16:27:44

Pupils in the school I work at can be kept behind for 20 mins without notifying parents, any more and a text is sent out.

DioneTheDiabolist Sat 07-Sep-13 16:31:08

My parents were never told when I got detentions over 20years ago. We were expected to call from the payphone and inform them ourselves. Surely this is much easier now that most secondary school children have mobile phones.confused

OddBoots Sat 07-Sep-13 16:42:53

There are no mobile phones allowed at ds's school. In theory they can have them on the journey to and from but most don't bother as they have to then sign them in and out and it's a faff.

tiggytape Sat 07-Sep-13 16:44:15

Beenfluffy - the outside school rules apply more to bullying on the way to school, standing at the end of the road smoking or bad behaviour on the bus - that sort of thing. It doesn't mean children are under the school's power at all times!

Madmog Sat 07-Sep-13 17:04:16

Not sure what the law is, but a minor offence at my daughter's school can be given the same day and is at lunchtime. Anything a little more serious, notice is served on the child and also the parents by post. The child has to take the parents copy signed by them to the detention. Think they do this so they can be sure the parents know their child will be late and also so they know why!

clam Sat 07-Sep-13 17:14:32

Surely more of a concern ought to be why one's child has been given a detention in the first place?

JenaiMorris Sat 07-Sep-13 18:57:58

I was thinking the same, clam!

After school detentions are rare at ds's school - maybe because a lot of pupils come from villages with crap public transport. I know they're rare because ds has only had one grin

We get a note in their planner informing us a day or two in advance.

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