Y7 levels (sorry) - tell me about the dip, please.

(8 Posts)
JenaiMorris Fri 12-Jul-13 18:33:31

How worried (if at all) do I need to be that ds has been given a 3.8 for English?

This is almost a full level below what he was given in his SATs (apparently he just missed a 5).

I know they were coached and that there is often a discrepancy between KS2 and KS3 but any assurance or otherwise would be much appreciated.

The rest seem fine btw. This is the lad who was graded (by school, obvs, in SATs mocks) 3a in maths at the end of Y5 but a 5b in his actual Y6 SATs (which has remained static in Y7 - again, not terribly worried - they don't progress in straight lines).

JenaiMorris Fri 12-Jul-13 18:35:13

PS I was quite taken aback by the almost-5 in English - it really didn't tally with what I expected as although he's a pretty good reader, he doesn't like books or writing and his handwriting is shocking. His spelling is pretty dire, too.

noblegiraffe Fri 12-Jul-13 22:27:13

I'd be concerned, a child on a level 3 at the end of year 7 will struggle to get a C at GCSE. I'd certainly be asking the school what support was available or what they would suggest to help him improve.

JenaiMorris Sun 14-Jul-13 09:10:23

I need to do that noble, don't I.

teacherandguideleader Mon 15-Jul-13 07:39:28

The dip is normal as grades (especially teacher assessed ones) are sometimes overinflated - the same can happen at the end of year 9. There are obviously other factors that cause the dip. If the levels are from tests, the children sometimes do better because they are coached to within an inch of their lives because so much rides on the grades. However, the children might not retain the stuff they have learned, causing levels to drop in year 7.

However, I would have expected a dip at the start of year 7 but a child to have at least caught up by now.

Do you have any work from the primary that the new school could look at to see if they think its nearly a 5 or if it was inaccurately marked. Also find out what you can do to help him.

JenaiMorris Mon 15-Jul-13 11:39:30

I don't have any work sadly, teacher. I will be talking to his HOY this week however. Thank you for your thoughts - I really do need to get this sorted.

bigTillyMint Mon 15-Jul-13 14:41:49

I agree that some primary schools over-inflate Teacher Assessment grades and there is some bending of the rules (at the very least) with the SATs to get the best possible grades.

However, this seems like a big dip. I would agree that you need to go in and find out what their take is on this.

JenaiMorris Mon 15-Jul-13 16:34:41

HOY is calling me tomorrow so hopefully this will start the ball rolling.

He's been struggling with English for years, but nobody seems to have taken it seriously so far.

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