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Sick of my lazy arse husband

(57 Posts)
Imabadmum Mon 22-Jul-13 16:44:32

Been married for 7 years, together 8, 4 dc between us (2 togther, had one each when we met) ranging in age 15 - 4.

When i stopped work to have the two youngest, he would go out to work between 11am and 3pm typically (supposed to be 9-5), sometimes less. He is a sales rep, so is flexible but plays it to the limit. Has got caught and fired several times. I eventually figured if our dc were to have any kind of childhood (holidays, nice clothes, the things all their friends have) I needed to go back to work ft and be the main breadwinner because he is hopeless. Been back at work 2.5 years now, earning well and under a fair amount of pressure. When i initially went back to work i figured, as for years he had worked 11-3 he could do school runs, and prepare an evening meal. He failed spectacularly, i would arrive home and find tortillas with cucumber and grated cheese for tea for 6 people, or something so awfully burnt as to be inedible and i would then have to cook something for the dc.

he is twatting about in the garage now with a drill, doing god knows what while i am working from home. I get up at 6-6.30am every day and work until 6pm, he gets up about 7.30 and spends the first 2 hours smoking and having coffee. I pay for an au pair to help me with the children now. whenever i do ask him to do something he makes the least possible effort, and does just the bare minimum. I cant complain he hasnt done it, but i usually have to do it all again as he has done a crap job (like getting the washing in, won't fold, just screws it up neatly, you know what i mean).

I would leave him if it werent for the dc, but i dont want to break up the family. Leaving him might make me happy, but would ruin everyone else's life so would be utterly selfish. and if the dc werent happy, i wouldnt be either.

if i try to bring this up with him he gets very angry, slams doors and storms off in a wheel spinning cloud of exhaust fumes.

he just doesnt seem to have any kind of work ethic and expects a free ride through life, off me and off his parents.

thanks for reading, moan over. If anyone has anything constructive to say please do, but quite frankly i just want to punch him in the face right now.

ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm Mon 22-Jul-13 16:47:20

" and if the dc werent happy, i wouldnt be either."

Conversely, and ultimately, they won't be happy if you're not...........

CogitoErgoSometimes Mon 22-Jul-13 16:58:24

Why is it always when a woman decides that her family would be better off minus the member who is making everyone miserable, creating extra work and doing sod all to contribute ..... she's the one worrying about breaking up the family while the guilty party just pouts his lip and clearly couldn't give a shit?! Always

He's the one who doesn't want to be part of a family. If he was worried about the family staying together he'd act like a family man instead of some overgrown toddler. He'll be quite happy in some grotty bedsit all by himself, smoking and drinking coffee... and probably finding some other poor woman to sponge off.

I'll hold him while you punch him if you like... smile

Imabadmum Mon 22-Jul-13 16:59:56

hmmmm - nope but i am (allegedly) a grown up and should put a brave face on it - the dc cant do that and i wouldnt want them to.

Made my bed, gotta lie in it, just fancied letting off some steam and having a grumble.

sorry to burden MN with it... x

ImperialBlether Mon 22-Jul-13 17:03:02

Sorry OP, but only martyrs think if you've made your bed you should lie on it.

The fact is he's an idle good for nothing husband who is giving his children a very bad example. You have to pay someone to take care of them when he's there!

I would leave. Do you want your children to grow up like him?

delilahlilah Mon 22-Jul-13 17:04:07

Staying isn't necessarily the best thing for the children. They are more aware of what goes on around them than we realise. The longer he thinks you will put up with this indefinitely, the less likely he is to change. He is being unfair to you and the kids.

YoniRanger Mon 22-Jul-13 17:05:07

How can your children be totally happy when their dad doesn't give a flying fuck about them?

Fairenuff Mon 22-Jul-13 17:09:22

He is selfish. He won't do the basic minimum to care for his children. He doesn't respect you. He's not going to change. Your dc will grow up thinking this is normal.

Is that what you want?

If you stay with him that will be your life. And theirs. You choose.

There are no prizes awarded for being a martyr within a marriage and your children as well won't thank you for staying with their dad either. They will call you daft for doing so and also wonder of you why you put him before them.

How would you yourself feel if your children as adults went on to have the same sort of relationship as you currently have?. You'd be horrified wouldn't you?. What you are also teaching them here is that this poor treatment of you is acceptable on some level to you, they are also learning damaging lessons form you as well as their lazy dad.

CogitoErgoSometimes Mon 22-Jul-13 17:17:43

"should put a brave face on it"

I grew up with parents that have no great liking for each other. They both put 'brave faces on it' and thought they were fooling everyone. They didn't fool my DB and me.... we got out of there as soon as we were old enough to do so and neither of us likes going back to see them because the atmosphere is so poisonous. 50+ years he's been a big disappointment to her and 50+ years she's been a big PITA to him. It's the most miserable waste of two lives I've ever seen.

Dahlen Mon 22-Jul-13 17:21:30

Been married for 7 years, together 8, 4 dc between us (2 togther, had one each when we met) ranging in age 15 - 4.

When she stopped work to have the two youngest, I was the breadwinner. I enabled her to be a SAHM. Instead of being grateful all she did was moan when a succession of nasty bosses who couldn't appreciate my talent kept on letting me go. Eventually, being the control freak she is she decided it would be better if I SAH and she went out to earn the money. Good I though. I'm all for equality and it would give her an idea of how hard I worked. Instead, nothing I ever do is good enough. Why should I have to cook fantastic meals every night? What's wrong with tortillas with cucumber and grated cheese for tea for 6 people, or the occasional kitchen mishap. And why shouldn't she cook something for tea now and again? Doesn't she know how lucky she is to have me and how wonderful it is that I allow her to be an emancipated woman who works instead of being a real mum?

I've just been in the garage now with a drill. I'm hiding from her because she's off one one. For some reason she seems to think that getting up a good hour before me, having to sort the children before going to work while i sit around for 2 hours smoking and having coffee is unacceptable. Why shouldn't I be able to do that? It's not as if I have to go out to work and looking after children is hard work. She should know as she pays for an au pair to help me because she's such a control freak she just criticises me for everything. I've decided I'm not going to bother from now on. If she doesn't like it she can do it herself the lazy arse.

She won't leave me. She knows that it's better for DC not to be in a broken home.

Don't you see that this man will never change? If he was capable of empathy and doing the right thing by you and your DC he wouldn't be behaving in this manner.

The lessons you are teaching your DC are way, way more damaging than any they'll learn as the result of you being a single parent. Chucking this cocklodger out would at least teach them that they are in control of their own destinies, that they should never tolerate someone walking all over them, and that possession of a penis does not entitle a man to be a lazy arse. Do you really want your DSs to grow up behaving like this and your DDs to think that's all they can expect from a relationship?

imademarion Mon 22-Jul-13 17:21:31

I cant complain he hasnt done it,

Why the fuck not?

You don't have to be super aggressive or over apologetic by by god you have got to communicate that this will not do.

Have you DD? Do you want them to think women are downtrodden uncomplaining drudges?

Have you DS? Would you be proud if they modelled themselves on their feckless freeloader of a father?

It's a marriage, which in this day a d age is a partnership, not you having a shit life doing everything with no support while he arses about with coffee and fags in the garage.

You have a right to a decent life. You only get one. Take it, and best of luck. Do let us know how it goes and take strength that you are not asking for too much.

imademarion Mon 22-Jul-13 17:24:20

Xpost with Dahlen on role models...

Ezio Mon 22-Jul-13 17:30:36

If your marriage is the modern marriage, then fuck me im staying single.

Dahlen is right, do you want your children thinking this relationship is the norm and they should expect this, it'll fuck them up and trust me they wont thank you for it.

Nanny0gg Mon 22-Jul-13 17:39:36

I used to have the 'stay together for the sake of the children' mindset.

Not so much now.

You're doing everything in this marriage, he's doing nothing. He's contributing nothing.
He's no example to the children of a loving parent, or someone who contributes to family life. There is no example of a provider of any sort from him, it's all down to you.

You get nothing from him, the children don't either. Does his DC live with you? What's the home atmosphere like for everyone?

I see no reason to stay.

Don't you owe it to your children to be a role model for them? What do you think they will learn from you martyring yourself like this?

Viviennemary Mon 22-Jul-13 17:56:27

You've a few choices. But none of them are probably great and some maybe not even feasible.

You could put up with the situation as it is
You could make him do more
You could get more help
You could leave
You could get a part-time job instead of full time

Can't think of any others. I do sympathise because your life sounds quite difficult and I'm not surprised your are resentful.

Imabadmum Mon 22-Jul-13 18:20:00

Life is too complicated to explain in a simple post. I wont leave because the dc would stand to lose far more than they would gain. His parents are wealthy and bought him a nice property which allows us to have a good lifestyle (ie the kids all have ponies, which i pay for, and look after, but I can only do it because we have land).

He is a poor role model and i have worried about this for a long time but i hope i am a good enough role model and balance it out a bit. I dont think they will grow up to see me as a downtrodden martyr but i do worry my DS's will think that this is normal behaviour for a dad.

I think many (if not most) mums make sacrifices for their children and this is mine.

I daydream that when the dc have flown the nest i will probably follow.

missbopeep Mon 22-Jul-13 18:29:58

Money is not everything. If I were a child I'd trade my pony and big house and rich inlaws for a mummy and daddy who were happy, and a daddy who helped around the house and kept my mum happy.

Anniegetyourgun Mon 22-Jul-13 18:32:59

Ugh, what kind of a marriage is it if you're only in it because his parents bought you a nice house? Effectively they've bought you. Do they actually know he's such a minus quantity, or is part of the bargain that you smile and make happy families in front of them?

I've said it before and I've said it again: if you make your bed all lumpy, only a damned fool lies in it instead of getting up and re-making it. Even more so if you made your bed then some useless arse came along and rumpled it all up.

Sorry that sounds a bit snippy - I know it does - I'm hot and cross this evening. But it makes me kind of mad to see someone decent and caring p... er, allowing themselves to be subjugated in exchange for an affluent lifestyle. There's a hell of a lot more to life than ponies.

Anniegetyourgun Mon 22-Jul-13 18:33:31

or what missbopeep said in a fraction of the verbiage smile

missbopeep Mon 22-Jul-13 18:33:39

What is his own family like? What kind of role model was his father- and did his mother spoil him rotten?

missbopeep Mon 22-Jul-13 18:34:47

smile or as you said Annie.

missbopeep Mon 22-Jul-13 18:39:37

Oh, and OP if when I was a big grown up, and found out that my mummy had only stayed with daddy so we could have ponies, land, an au pair and all sorts of nice things but then left him as soon as I was a big grown up, I'd feel my childhood was based on a falsehood- and you know what- I might even hate my mummy for putting my pony before her own ( and my) happiness.

And I'd have had a very bad role model in a father to help me choose a good man and possibly father of my own children.

JourneyThroughLife Mon 22-Jul-13 18:41:57

Sorry....I gave up believing in the "you've made your bed, you have to lie on it" mantra long ago, it was fed to me by my mother. If you don't like the bed you've made, go make another one, a different one instead.
You don't have to put up with shit and neither do your children, you have choices....

missbopeep Mon 22-Jul-13 18:45:53

Any chance the OP likes the lifestyle she has and simply can't be arsed to handle all the changes that would ensue?

Op your youngest child is 4- do you intend to put up and shut up for another 14 years at least? Or make that 17 years because who needs their parents divorcing just as they start uni etc.

You need to sort out your priorities- ponies or being true to yourself.

wordyBird Mon 22-Jul-13 18:50:13

Another potential problem of sticking with a selfish partner for the sake of the children, is that he might not do the same.

You could find yourself bravely battling on X years/months hence, to find he has suddenly left you holding the babies in any case. Self-centred and irresponsible people tend to remain essentially self seeking, after all.

So if there doesn't seem much will for change from him, an alternative plan might still be worth considering, if only as a vague contingency.

Fairenuff Mon 22-Jul-13 19:00:03

I think many (if not most) mums make sacrifices for their children and this is mine

It's not just your sacrifice OP, it's theirs as well. These children have to live with this behaviour as their model. Every day they are learning from their parents how to behave in a grown up world.

One day your dd will be sacrificing just like you are. Lovely legacy hmm

Why did you post anyway?

alwaysinamuckingfuddle Mon 22-Jul-13 19:10:03

Another 50 odd years of that? Rather you than me, OP! Some of us obviously have a bit more self respect.

Twinklestein Mon 22-Jul-13 19:22:33

We had a pony when I was a kid & I never found it very interesting...

I'd have swapped it in a heartbeat for family meals that were not excruciating.

If you have girls, you are teaching them that this is what men are like, this is how relationships are: far, far more potentially damaging life lessons than no pony.

Dahlen Mon 22-Jul-13 19:29:27

If you are married, you are aware that you will be entitled to half the proceeds of the sale of the marital home? If you would be primary carer you would probably be entitled to stay in it until the eldest child is 18 or completes full-time education. As your H is a lazy arse and you've had to employ an au-pair, you probably would have no difficulty proving that you are primary carer, especially as I'm pretty positive it will be you who takes them to the Dr, attends parents evening, signs consent forms, does the drop off and pick ups, etc.

I understand your reluctance to upset the apple cart and fearing a drop in your standard of living, but as you are the primary earner and you and your H are married, the only thing you stand to lose if you divorce is your H. You can maintain a similar but downgraded lifestyle even if you move home.

Is a little bit of extra land really worth a happy home?

Imabadmum Mon 22-Jul-13 21:09:18

I am surpised how many people out there view divorce as the best choice, the first choice. Not working it out, discuss it, marriage guidance. Just rip up the marriage cert and move out, be a single parent with the kids having to split their time between us. I have done that once with my dd and it hasnt been easy on her. I cant uproot her again, nor can i drag the two youngest away from their dad.

Someone said he doesn't give a flying fuck about his children. I never said that. He adores them and it would destroy him if i took them away. He is a lousy provider, he has been spoilt by his parents and I've lost respect for him. I was just having a moan.

Imabadmum Mon 22-Jul-13 21:12:56

Oh. And the 'marital home' is owned by his parents so i would walk away with the clothes on my back despite the £thousands i have invested in it to mention blood sweat and tears building and decorating. I didnt know that until some considerable time after we were married.

He "adores" them BUT he won't do anything for them if it involves him making any effort? He wont fucking feed his own children properly?!!!

Please don't just put this in the "I'm just ranting" box - really analyse what this is telling them. If you lived alone with them & he had reasonable access you wouldn't have to compensate for his shortcomings - you could have a good happy life & they would feel far more valued - & so would you. You wouldn't constantly be covering up for him - think how much happier you ALL would be...

Dahlen Mon 22-Jul-13 21:27:16

Would his parents chuck you and your DC out of the home if you split up with their son? Because if they would then nothing your DC have is safe and guaranteed even if you stay.

Sometimes staying together for the DC can work. I wouldn't advise anyone to split up a family lightly. If you've simply fallen out of love but respect each other, co-parent effectively and don't want the freedom to meet someone else, staying together is certainly an option.

You're seriously delusional if you think that's what's going on here though. Don't compound one mistake (your first marriage breakdown) by making another (sticking with a second highly dysfunctional one.

You adore your children. So much so that you gave up the opportunity to be a SAHM to make sure they were well provided for. So much so that paid for an au pair when it was clear their father wasn't looking after them adequately. So much so that you are prepared to subjugate your own happiness to misguidedly keep a 'stable' home for them. HE doesn't adore them in the way a father should love his children. He loves them in the same way a spoiled child loves a puppy.

You can't work this out. You've already tried it all. You may as well not have bothered. It takes two to make a marriage work. No matter how committed you are, if he doesn't 'get it', it won't work. He doesn't and won't. Why would he? There are no consequences if he doesn't - apart from children who grow up having some very dysfunctional ideas about equality and healthy relationships. But that's ok because they've got a pony.

Twinklestein Mon 22-Jul-13 21:27:26

I would always suggest trying to work things out if there seemed the remotest possibility that it might have an effect.

But I don't believe that discussing it or marriage guidance is going to make any difference. He's not going to change.

If you believed he could, you wouldn't be here.

Snorbs Mon 22-Jul-13 21:48:26

Why would he even want to change? Right now he gets to laze around and do fuck-all. Everything is someone else's responsibility. Someone else bought his home, someone else pays for its upkeep, someone else looks after his kids. If he does get cornered into doing something he deliberately fucks it up so it makes it more trouble than it's worth. And he knows that (I'm not going to call you Imabadmum. How about Marriedtoashittydad?) isn't going to leave over it.

What possible motivation does he have to change? He's got it made. OP, can I come and live at your house and have no responsibilities too?

Imabadmum Mon 22-Jul-13 21:55:29

Food for thougt people, i will reflect on all you have said.

I dont know if his parents would chuck us out, but i cant see how i / we could possibly stay. I cant see him moving out?

I know having a pony is no substitute for happy parents and a happy family. But we are not at each others throats all the time, i just get frustrated with his swanning about and not really contributing. I think the kids think we are happy. I think he thinks i am happy. Actully i am not sure anybody has really noticed that i am screaming.

Dahlen Mon 22-Jul-13 22:00:57

That's a judgement call. But I'd ask the DC for their opinion (I accept you may not get much from the 4 year old wink). Some people can hide it well; others can't. There have always been loads of posts on here from women who grew up knowing that their parents were miserable despite their parents' apparently sincere belief that they were doing a good job of hiding it.

Hegsy Mon 22-Jul-13 22:17:04

From the child of divorce at the grand old age of 25 I wish they'd done it sooner instead of it getting to the point my 'father' became such an arsehole I no longer have anything to do with him. I do believe his attitude has come from years of not being happy and resenting my mum.

My mum is now happier than I have ever seen her remarried, settled financially most importantly is she is happy! By all means op try and improve things, talk to him, counselling maybe write him a letter explaining how you fell. But please don't put up with this either way. Life is to short!

CSIJanner Mon 22-Jul-13 22:21:17

"I daydream that when the dc have flown the nest i will probably follow."

This last sentence has made me v sad for you OP. It's a shit situation as you're looking out for your children but at the same time, you have to forfeit your own happiness and sense of complete fulfilment (as in happy marriage with mutual respect). A friends DM is in this same situation. Desperately unhappy with DH but kept it together for her DC. When DFriend and siblings left the nest, she was left trapped as she had no savings in her name, no pension etc. so she plods along and makes do.

Would counselling help? Are his parents enablers? Maybe a counselling session will help him to see that his children need him as a role model, not just as a dad who adores them.

missbopeep Mon 22-Jul-13 22:24:17

If no one notices you are unhappy, is that their fault or yours?

Is it best to moan on a forum- or to the people in your life?

Is it sensible to have a marriage where the house is owned by in laws which effectively leaves you with nothing?

You have allowed this man to behave like this without taking any action so far.

You've compensated for him by employing 'staff'.

What's stopping you talking to him?

misskatamari Mon 22-Jul-13 22:24:59

Have you spoken to your husband at all about how you feel? You don't sound like you want to leave the marriage but living unhappily for the sake of the children is not a good option. How do you and DH get on? Do you have fun? Are you good friends? Can you talk to each other openly? These are all things needed for a strong relationship. You should be able to tell him how you feel and what you need from him and know that he cares enough to listen and support you.

Imabadmum Mon 22-Jul-13 22:41:42

Ive tried talking, telling, moaning, asking, showing. Ive been patient, angry, indignant, and now im just resigned. He wont change, he cant. Ive even had counselling from the doctors.

No it isnt sensible to have a house owned by the inlaws, apart from anything the inheritance tax will probably kill it. Ive tried talking to him and to his parents. Ive suggested getting accountants and lawyers involved to best plan for the future but they all seem to have their heads buried in the sand. I think his parents know what he is like and dont want to hand any property over until they are dead and buried - they dont want to be about to see him squander their hard earned wealth. When i met him i didnt know but he was facing bankruptcy. Found out just before the wedding. What could i do, say "oh, you are skint? Weddings off then" so i stood by him, rejigged the wedding to be uber cheap, and helped him pay back all his debts and organise his finances. Still have to keep a careful eye on his finances but its like having a wayward teenager who just wont grow up.

Its exhausting and im tired of it now.

Fairenuff Mon 22-Jul-13 22:54:27

You are right about one thing. He won't change.

It's horrible for children living like this. I used to want my parents to divorce. I just couldn't stand the atmosphere. They thought they kept a lot of it hidden. They didn't.

I even asked my dad once why he didn't just leave. He said my youngest sibling was too young. And I actually asked my mum to leave but she didn't.

Please don't think you are doing this for your children. Do it for yourself, by all means. If you think staying with him is best for you. But don't do it for the children. That's an awful burden for them to bear.

missbopeep Mon 22-Jul-13 22:57:43

A couple of things for you to ponder

1.You cannot change anyone- only yourself and your own behaviour. By doing that the other person will change- for every action ( yours) there is a reaction ( theirs).

2. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is a sign of madness (Einstein.)

Talking, moaning, nagging has not worked before so it won't now.
The only thing that will work is some constructive action.

Maybe you need to discuss separation because your spoilt and idle DH doesn't seem to give a toss about you. Something is not registering with him about how you feel, so it's time to stop talking and do something.

CSIJanner Mon 22-Jul-13 23:14:01

If the IL's are worried about his squandering the house wealth and you're worried about inheritance tax, maybe you could suggest they sign the house over in trust to the grandchildren, with an independent guardian as trustee until they reach age?

wordyBird Mon 22-Jul-13 23:19:12

The family home sounds quite a sticking point, understandably.

Might you consider legal advice for yourself, to look at possible scenarios if you did separate? Or even if you didn't, ask anyway. Complicated housing situations can give you a horrible sense of unease, if you don't know exactly where you stand.

Having the facts clear in your mind might help you.

kickassangel Mon 22-Jul-13 23:44:53

Get some legal advice, and start building up a 'running away' fund.

It's amazing how some facts and an escape route can make you see for sure whether you really want to stay or go.

FairPhyllis Tue 23-Jul-13 00:35:40

I think it would be awful if you let finances and the situation with the house keep you in this position. If you seriously think you might split up after the children leave home, then really you need to leave now, because if you wait another 10 years or so you could be in an even worse financial position and trapped even more.

What is the deal with the house? Do you pay rent for it? If you weren't paying rent or mortgage in all this time have you managed to build up any assets? Are you certain he hasn't built up any more debt?

missbopeep Tue 23-Jul-13 08:15:04

OP
It's a very odd set up with his parents. don't you think?
Although you say they don't trust him with money etc, they have in fact enabled him to live like a child, and forgo being responsible for his own family.

Their generosity has in fact been a huge part of the current problem. And they aren't being kind to him- they have spoiled him .

I've friends whose parents have loaned them money or bought them houses, but the deal was they were paid back as if it were a mortgage agreement, but at a lower rate of interest.

OR it was an early inheritance, and the houses were given to them, with no strings attached.

Your in laws are effectively acting as landlords and their son is still living like a child- with them and you supporting his fecklessness.

You could indeed have called off your wedding- or at least postponed it. people have done so for less!

But you started off on the wrong foot- baling him out. And that set the pattern.

If you are successful in your work- you say you work from home and can afford an au pair- then you presumably earn enough to support yourself especially if he pays maintenance if you split.

You need to get some legal advice because as things stand you'd walk away with nothing I assume, unless his parents made the house his ( and yours) and the assets were split equally.

But you might think about an escape route such as leaving with the children into rented property.

FasterStronger Tue 23-Jul-13 08:27:09

OP you need to replace 'I have made my bed now I have to lie in it' with 'I have got myself into this situation and now I am going to deal with it'

I am not telling you how to deal with it - but this is not going to get better and you need to do something.

you remind me of one of my oldest friends and this applies to her en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_complex

don't confuse sacrificing yourself to achieve something and just being a doormat to avoid confrontation with someone who does not respect you and does not look after their owns DCs.

NeedlesCuties Tue 23-Jul-13 09:26:54

Do you have friends and family who you can turn to for emotional support?

You seem like a lovely woman - sensible, hard working and devoted to your children. But you also seem very sad sad

You've had some good viewpoints on this thread, and good advice too.

And the 'marital home' is owned by his parents so i would walk away with the clothes on my back despite the £thousands i have invested in it to mention blood sweat and tears building and decorating. I didnt know that until some considerable time after we were married.

That is utterly beyond outrageous. Legally would there be any comeback for such deception should you leave him? Probably not. I'm speechless at such calculated deviousness on his/their part.

Fairenuff Tue 23-Jul-13 11:47:27

Even if you walked away with nothing you still have your self respect, you job and your children. And those are the only things that matter. The house is not a home if you are not happy there. It's just bricks and mortar.

Yes, it's annoying that you've put so much money into it but are you going to continue to throw good money after bad?

You can make a new start or you can sink deeper into this miserable existence of debt, dependence and depression.

You can earn your own money, buy your own place and rebuild a happy life with your children. It can only lead to better things. If you stay where you are you the only thing you can guarantee is that you will be unhappy and disappointed with your lot.

missbopeep Tue 23-Jul-13 12:37:06

I think the fact that he deceived you over who owned 'his' house is worth talking over with a legal person.

However, it does suggest that you didn't discuss finances before marriage. If he gave the impression that he owned the house, where did that leave you re. being a joint owner, and budgeting etc?

Did you really not know he didn't own the house? Did you not ask or expect it to be put into joint names from the day you married? I don't really understand how this is something you found out after tying the knot unless there is more to it than we know from your posts.

Jan45 Tue 23-Jul-13 12:44:00

You've made your bed - what century are you living in - actually just sounds like an excuse as you don't want to give up the materialistic things in your life - I'd rather been in a small flat with my kids happy than be with a guy I have no respect for - and you found after you were married that the home is in his parents name and still is, it wouldn't be if I was there - it all sounds like everything is on his terms and your needs are not as important, only you know how much you value yourself.

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