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Caz101x · 05/08/2016 13:06

Why are so many men so shitty? After reading several threads on here it seems so many males think they can treat others so badly ,like there entitled to it! I have a good partner but he's lied to me on several occasions about one particular subject, why do they have to lie, I'm not stupid but can't always trust what he's saying to me. Grrr, just having a rant Angry

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adora1 · 05/08/2016 13:21

It's worse on here because most posters are female. Women do it too OP, perhaps more sneakily too. I'd not spend five minutes with any man who gave me the impression of superiority or entitlement - and neither would I put up with a liar.

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RedMapleLeaf · 05/08/2016 13:24

Black and Asian people do it too OP, perhaps more sneakily too.

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Saltfish · 05/08/2016 13:58

two unhelpful comments above...do you think she doesn't know that? Let the op rant fgs.

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RedMapleLeaf · 05/08/2016 14:01

I'm sorry if I was too subtle. I wasn't silencing the OP I was challenging the blatant and offensive sexism from adora.

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Destinysdaughter · 05/08/2016 14:04

I don't like to make generalisations about the motives of others, may be helpful to talk about your own relationship. What's he lied to you about OP?

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Saltfish · 05/08/2016 14:26

My mistake leaf!,Flowers

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attsca · 05/08/2016 14:27

RedMapleLeaf You were too subtle for me. Can you explain?

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Caz101x · 05/08/2016 15:19

It was a general rant about men treating others so crappily, just in my case some lies. I realise of course that women lie too, just wish men in general would treat others respectfully!

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RedMapleLeaf · 05/08/2016 15:37

attsca when people make sweeping generalisations about women or men, unfortunately it's more obvious how prejudiced it is if you replace "women" (for example) with "black people" or "gay people". E.g. "women lie, but they're more sneaky than men" should be obviously prejudiced and unacceptable, but to some people in our culture it's only when you try out, "black people lie, but they're more sneaky than white people" that the offensiveness of the generalisation is apparent.

OP your argument is about perspective, it's like spending the week in a dentists' waiting room and concluding that all people suffer from painful teeth.

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NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 05/08/2016 15:55

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TheNaze73 · 05/08/2016 16:53

I think your viewpoint is slightly unbalanced as this forum is mainly posted upon by females & normally when there's an issue. There are millions of happy & succesful unions in the Uk but, a bit like when you have bad service in a shop, we complain, yet when we get good service we don't generally tell the world.
RedMaple is spot on

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SandyY2K · 05/08/2016 17:20

Black and Asian people do it too OP, perhaps more sneakily too.

What's this got to do with it? Are blacks and Asians not part of the make population?

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pallasathena · 05/08/2016 17:22

When TheNaze73 asserts that the o/p is'Slightly unbalanced', for expressing her opinion she is essentially invalidating the original poster . Its called an ad homini for anyone interested and its a device used to attack an individual instead of attacking the basic premise of the argument.

Its also known as a cheap shot and a very lazy way of trying and failing, to make your point.
Calling someone 'Slightly unbalanced', is just plain offensive.

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RedMapleLeaf · 05/08/2016 17:34

When TheNaze73 asserts that the o/p is'Slightly unbalanced'

Only she didn't Confused

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LilacSpunkMonkey · 05/08/2016 17:37

Just to point out Naze is a man so has a vested interest in disagreeing with the OP...

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attsca · 05/08/2016 17:41

RedMapleLeaf you are correct, she didn't.

You are being slightly sexist yourself however by assuming that TheNaze is female because he is posting on here.

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NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 05/08/2016 17:42

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Cabrinha · 05/08/2016 17:46

How is it sexist to assume that TheNaze is a woman?
That's not sexist at all!
What % of MN posters are women? Impossible to say as not all posts have a big screaming gender identifier built in. But at a guess based on posts I read, maybe 90%+
Assuming TheNaze is a woman is rational and not remotely sexist. Although it happens to be wrong.

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Cabrinha · 05/08/2016 17:47

OP, I don't find your generalisation fair or helpful.

But I also disagree that you have a "good partner" if he repeatedly lies Confused

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