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Changeschangechangeagain · 04/10/2015 16:37

Can someone explain about the csa?

I receive no regular money from my child's father. Initially we did a strict 50/50 shared parenting, with his parents looking after my daughter as he was unable to. This broke down.

I really missed my daughter and do not want a 50/50 arrangement.

I would rather have 5 days for me and them him and his parents see her on the other days. I don't want to push him into having my daughter for monetary reasons when he doesn't want to have her.

I want my daughter more than I want any money from him but we are struggling for cash. He was financially abusive when we were together.

He really doesn't want me to involve the csa but I don't want to be begging money off him any more. I don't want to have anything to do with him.

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cheapskatemum · 04/10/2015 16:47

Of course he doesn't want you to involve the CSA! He knows he's liable to give you far more money than he does at present! It's a long time since I had dealings with them, but a friend of mine has been looking into it recently as she has the same problem as you (x2, they have twins). I understand they are called something different now - sorry, can't remember what - and that they immediately take 20% of what the xp/errant parent is liable to pay. You obviously get the rest for DD. If the agreement was 50:50, who is receiving child benefit, you or xp?

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Changeschangechangeagain · 04/10/2015 17:02

I get child benefit, working and child tax credits.

He wanted me to lie on some paperwork about him providing money but I refused to.

I'm worried about upsetting him as he can be a right arXXXole...

He was abusive and I'm not fond of that side of him being a problem again.
I reported to the police but didn't take it further. I don't have any real evidence against him anyway.

I think I need to have some money off him as we are struggling on my wages. He basically splashes his cash about whilst we only just get by, month to month. I'd like to do nice things with her to without the constant penny pinching.

He and his family are quite powerful figures. They pretty much call the shots.

I'm scared they will try to take my daughter off me. They were able to do something similar in the past with another relative.

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redannie118 · 04/10/2015 17:05

Hi op csa is now called the child maintenance group.when you apply you pay a 20 pound application fee then depending on which service you require depends on what fees you pay. Direct pay is where youll open a application with us,we will work out how much the nrp needs to pay by accessing hmrc,then we send this to you both in writing. You decide a bank account you want the money paid into and he makes payments every week/month depending how often he gets paid. You get a payment schedule to tell you payments will be made,and if payments are late ring us and we will chase it up. The nrp salary is reviewed each year at the end of the tax year to make sure the amount you recieve is correct.this service is completely free(apart from the one-off app fee) if a nrp misses payments we change him to a system called collect and pay where he pays us directly then we pass the money onto you. The fees for this are 20 percent on top of the maintenance amount payable by him and 4 percent payable for you,so eg if maint is set at 100 pounds per week he will pay 120 and you will recieve 96. He does get a 1/7th discount for everynight he has the kids overnight and you can claim even if you have 50/50 shared care although he is also entilted to claim from you in that situation. Dont let that put you off though,if he is a high earner and you are a low earner it is most definitely in your favour to do this. Im a case worker for the cmg and happy to answer any other questions :)

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Changeschangechangeagain · 04/10/2015 17:14

Thanks Redannie.

I'm so worried going for cm will push him towards the 50/50 arrangement again.

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Changeschangechangeagain · 04/10/2015 17:17

I don't know most of his details - I know his address, birthday, nino possibly. I have no idea of his salary. He is on the birth certificate - I don't know if he returned it. He has her passport.

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redannie118 · 04/10/2015 17:49

Name and address is all we need,we go staight to the hmrc database to establish his income so dont worry about that. We dont need bcert or passport,if you recievce child ben your children will be on the hmrc database and we wont need any further evidence. As for the other things when you first ring up you will be put through to our options team who will talk you through the process and give you a reference number you need to proceed. They can also give you legal advice and put you in touch with charitable organisation s who can help you.oh and ive just noticed you say her grand parents had her during the 50/50agreement?unless he has her and looks after her at his own address we will not take those nights into account. The discount he recieves is to cover bills eg utilities etc that he has to pay to look after her. If hes not looking after her in a address he pays the bills he cant claim a discount therefore we would not count any nights she stays with parents as shared care

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UpNorthAgain · 04/10/2015 18:10

OP I had to get the CMO involved as my XH is an entitled twat rather difficult and thought that the laws of the land didn't apply to him. The CMO people were lovely, and threatened with him an attachment to earnings before he cooperated. We're now on Collect and Pay, so he's paying 20% extra a month for being an uncooperative idiot. I think I lose about £5 a week, and a friend rightly observed that it was worth losing that just to piss XH off Smile. Seriously, the CMO was really helpful. It's a bit embarrassing having to talk to a stranger about such personal stuff, but they were very understanding.

No idea why the lines have set themselves out like that!

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UpNorthAgain · 04/10/2015 18:11

Oh, they didn't Blush Must be something to do with previewing before I post

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Shutthatdoor · 04/10/2015 18:17

I really missed my daughter and do not want a 50/50 arrangement.

I understand what you are saying but be careful with statements like this though. Arrangements should be about what is right for your DC not you.

If he did go for contact through court statements like this would be picked up upon.

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goddessofsmallthings · 04/10/2015 19:24

You've said the 50/50 arrangement you had with him broke down. What contact does he have with dd and how old is she?

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starlight2007 · 04/10/2015 20:20

just a question...Why was he unable to look after his daughter?

How old is your DD?

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