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I did an unacceptable thing and now I'm suffering....

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Cygnet44 · 28/08/2015 22:28

So I met my OH online last October, we were both separated and he was going through a divorce, now absolute. We hit it off straight away and our relationship had progressed at a comfortable, steady pace - we see each other 1-3 times a week depending on each others' other commitments and it works for us, we give each other space and when we're together we have a great time. He's very thoughtful, loving and attentive towards me, he make me feel like a queen and our sex life is great.
Early on in the relationship we asked about other dates/relationships we have had since leaving our respective marriages. I was honest about a couple of dates I'd had and he was clear that he hadn't seen any other women before meeting me. I had no reason to disbelieve this; he had left an incredibly abusive marriage of 28 years.
Fast foward to this month and I was staying over his. He went to work the next morning (he's a self employed builder) and gave me his laptop to use.
He'd left his email open and I couldn't help myself and had a nosy about. I came across an email from a woman he had recently done some work for; he had told me his ExW had accused him of sleeping with this woman (she lived in the same village) but there was nothing between them. This email was from him to her saying 'I love you', there was another from her to him with a hotel room booking confirmation and his reply 'I still want to do this baby'. Now these emails were from a year ago so I shouldn't be worried about them right? But reading them sent alarm bells; why had he lied about no other women and why go on to almost convince me there wasn't anything between them when accused by his ExW.
So you might be thinking forget it, he's with you now and everything is great so why worry. It gets worse. The next week I stayed over and he went to make us coffee. He left his phone and I snooped through his texts; there was a whole string between them, kind of regular, admittedly a lot were to do with work being done on her house but there were some that implied he had been round for a social coffee and chat, and had also had phone conversations.
I did confront him in a clever way about this woman, using the conversation he had had with me about being accused of sleeping with her; he admitted that from June-September last year they had a flirtation and had sex once but it fizzled out, nothing since, now purely a professional relationship. He said he should of told me.
But two really stood out for me and I've just discovered they were sent in June this year, around the time he was laying a patio at hers. The first one said 'Would I be out of order to say I still fancy the pants off you?'. Her response, no of course not. His reply to that were words to the effect of 'I need to put any possibility of a relationship with you out of my head'. She responded with a comment about his exW and the issues he has with her and she wouldn't want to be in a secret relationship. He then said let's just keep it to coffee and chat then. To be fair to her she didn't seem too keen to progress the conversation. The last text exchange was a couple of weeks ago, he text saying are you in for a coffee? She hadn't responded. Apart from that, it's been about work on her house. I've just spent a wonderful 5 days with this man, he still is as loving and
Before anyone shoots me down for snooping; I know it was absolutely the wrong thing to do, they say what you don't know can't hurt you and boy is that right. So no lectures please! I had no reason to doubt or mistrust at all before discovering the emails which were last year but to then discover recent texts declaring how he felt about still fancying her and seeking confirmation about a potential relationship has really knocked me for 6! He also wasn't comfortable when I asked about her. However, since my discovery, he has started to call me his partner, he had already introduced me to his DC and I've spent time with them, I've also been introduced to some of his closest friends. It just doesn't make sense to me, he is doing everything right and we have a fantastic relationship, so why has he done this? This week I've looked on his phone again and all their text message thread is deleted and her number is also deleted (unless he's saved it under a pseudonym!). I'm hoping it's because he seriously wants to forget about her and focus on us, which I thought he had been anyway. I obviously will not ever let him know what I have discovered.
Has anyone else ever been in this situation? What would you do, what do you think?

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jessiepinkman · 28/08/2015 22:50

He sounds like he's hedging his bets and is either not sure if it's going places with you or just has a really bad crush on this woman and can't shake it. (The ex wife is not so crazy after all!) It doesn't sound like she's that bothered about him though does it.
It's a tough situation for you especially as you say he's a loving partner and you're happy in other respects it seems silly to rock the boat. Me being me though I'd have to have it out with him, which would mean telling him you looked at his phone, (not that shocking imo) could you make something up like a message popped up and curiosity got the better of you? Or just say you have a feeling he has a crush on her and it's making you feel bad, you need help reassurance from him to move forward?

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springydaffs · 28/08/2015 22:51

First off, my antennae goes up with 'incredibly abusive marriage'. He says? I'd be very wary of accepting his take on his marriage if this his conclusion. Incredibly?

So he's lied to you. She was his bit on the side - not literally by the sound of it (?) but he chose to specifically lie about her by omission. Hmmm. Not good imo. He thinks it's OK to keep an aspect of his life to himself. What other aspects of his life will he be keeping to himself?

Maybe he omitted to tell you about her bcs he still working for her and it could be tricky. So the solution has to be he stops working for her. But that doesn't address that he lied to you about her.

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MudCity · 28/08/2015 23:10

So sorry to hear this Cygnet. I would be thinking the same as you. It sounds as though he was checking to see if a relationship with patio woman was a possibility...keeping his options open. Having just gone through a divorce he may have felt tempted to play the field.

To make things worse, it sounds as though he did lie to his ex-wife about this woman. He has also lied to you about this woman. So, would I trust him fully? No.

It is positive that he appears to have deleted patio woman's name from his phone etc but, ultimately, he was thinking about a relationship with her when he is in a relationship with you. What would have happened if she had been up for it? Will they still be in touch about the building work?

Don't feel bad about checking his messages...I would imagine you had a sneaking doubt which is why you had a look. Whatever you decide to do, at least now you know that he hasn't been 100% honest you can proceed with caution.

This might just be a blip from an otherwise honest man but it rings alarm bells and I would be a bit careful just how much you commit at the moment as he may not be in the same place as you.

Take care and go carefully.

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Whatifitoldyou · 28/08/2015 23:13

I think you need to separate the two things. It's not nice to be lied to but He doesn't really have to share his history with you .People often don't include brief relationships when relaying their history for obvious reasons ( I may have left the odd one out myself)

However the messages in June would bother me a lot as would going for coffees. I would also query his incredibly abusive marriage as he's obviously comfortable with lying.

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ThisIsFolkGirl · 29/08/2015 07:04

I'd end it. I'm not saying you should because I've developed a bit of a zero tolerance for these things.

But that is largely because I have yet to give someone a second chance in a relationship and not regret it.

What is your gut instinct.

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ThisIsFolkGirl · 29/08/2015 07:08

Benefit of the doubt rather than second chance.

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category12 · 29/08/2015 08:04

So two months ago he was sniffing round her?

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Theydontknowweknowtheyknow · 29/08/2015 08:17

Tbh I think it's natural to have feelings about several people early on in a relationship but there comes a point when you've got to make a decision, pick a lane (who's Elaine Wink Wine for anyone who gets that) and knuckle under with the whole monogamy thing.

So I'd say don't raise any suspicion about your sneaky cyber spying, leave a couple of months, take a shifty look at his email then if it's all died a death put your worries aside.

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afink · 29/08/2015 08:21

The thing that concerns me most about this is that it leaves a question mark over his version of the events that led to the breakdown of his marriage.

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featherandblack · 29/08/2015 08:47

I'd definitely end it. It seems as if the other woman is the one he'd choose to be with and can't bring himself to let go of. That wouldn't be something I could put up with. What if she had been interested in return two months ago? Would he have jumped out of a relationship with you and into a new one? Ultimately I couldn't cope with thinking I was with someone because that someone couldn't have their first choice. And honesty is a huge thing for me; if he hasn't been honest about something like this (but then how could he be, given the nature of what he's been saying) what else will he tell you in the future?

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Cygnet44 · 29/08/2015 11:18

Thank you all for responding with your views, it helps to read it from others perspectives. I'm confident about the reasons his marriage ended; his exw is an alcoholic and has also been abusive to their two dc who choose to live with their dad. The police and ss have been involved too.
I'm really wrestling with my feelings right now; we do have a great relationship but for me its been undermined by him. I do not know if he would have jumped ship to be with her if she had given him the nod so to speak.
I asked him if she knew he was in a relationship now and he said 'I have no idea', so he's not being honest with her either. I personally don't think she would go there because she has a young child and has witnessed his exw behaviour.
I'm a confident, strong woman but right now I'm suffering with anxiety attacks which are affecting my appetite, I know that's not a healthy place to be. I think I'm going to take some space for me and decide whether I wish to continue with this relationship. I don't think I can be his second choice. What hurts the most is the fact we have such a great time together, he shows me so much love and affection which I don't feel is forced, yet 2 months ago he was sniffing around her. It just doesn't make sense to me. Surely if you're happy you wouldn't feel the need?
Need some comfort and hand holding right now.

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QuiteLikely5 · 29/08/2015 11:36

I think what I would be concerned about is the fact he seemed very interested in her two months ago.

She is obviously a very sensible woman and seems to have rejected him. Does she know he is with you?

I would need to have it out with him.

I don't disagree with snooping. It was your instinct.

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ThisIsFolkGirl · 29/08/2015 11:44

we do have a great relationship but for me its been undermined by him

This makes no sense. It is what it is. The love and affection doesn't have to feel forced. You don't repulse him

Either it is a great relationship or it is not because it is being undermined by him.

Why would you even consider staying with someone who is actively pursuing someone else?

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ThisIsFolkGirl · 29/08/2015 11:47

The thing is, this is why so many people women end up in such abysmally shitty relationships months/years down the line. Because they ignore the warning signs when they're only 6 months in and then try to find reasonable explanations for unreasonable behaviour.

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mulranna · 29/08/2015 12:04

I did an unacceptable thing

No you didn't.

You did exactly the right thing.

Listened to your gut - investigated it - and found out your gut was true.

He did an unacceptable thing - he is chasing someone else whilst with you - he has lied to you throughout your whole relationship - about the facts and more importantly about his feelings to you - during the great times - he is chasing someone else.......and also lied to her - he has hidden the fact that he is in a relationship with you.

You are his 2nd best - or did he just want the other lady to be an affair whilst still with you?

He will always be looking over your shoulder for something "better" - can you live with this? You could spend your life being eaten up by suspicion.

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MudCity · 29/08/2015 15:51

ThisIsFolkGirl has a point...ignore your gut instinct now and you may regret it later.

Maybe you could suggest to him that now is not the right time for your relationship to progress. He has, afterall, just come out of a divorce and there is this question mark over this other woman. Maybe he should take time to sort his head out and, if in months / years to come, he is sure about a relationship with you, then, if you are free and single, you can consider it.

If he has come out of an abusive relationship then space and time will be important. You want to be with someone who is sure about what they want from their future. He has had a long marriage and, just like anyone, having some time on his own might be what he needs to decide who he is and what he wants from the rest of his life.

If he is right for you, he will come back to you without any complications and be all the better for it.

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featherandblack · 29/08/2015 23:27

I think you can have a great relationship but still be haunted by the one that got away.

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