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Emotionally exhausting mum

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Tellmetheduckstory · 29/03/2015 10:18

Sorry, very long but I'd appreciate some perspective.

My mum raised me as a single parent with much help from her extended family. My dad was never involved and his existence rarely acknowledged by anyone. He's dead now.

Now, I'm an adult, in my 30s, a mother myself and I live a short domestic flight away from my mum.

Mum has few friends, and family still alive are a bit distant. We see each other frequently. She is an academic and is usually busy with work.

As a child, she was over protective and over bearing- eg not letting me go to cinema with friends when I was 13/14, never letting me ride a bike as it was dangerous. However she failed to protect me from sustained emotional abuse from her toxic mum and siblings (name calling, put downs etc. A good example is her mum would always have a tantrum on my birthday as I was getting attention and usually would steal my stuff.)

My mum also used my dad as a weapon against me. She didn't tell me who he was until I was a teenager and that was because I had misbehaved. It was said in spite IYSWIM?

I had bulimia from 14-25. When she found out she went spare at me.

Now, it's still tough for me to deal with her. She's always fretting, constantly asking me if I'm alright and acting like I'm made of glass and likely to shatter any time. I told her she exhausts me and to lay off but all I get is 'oh I know I'm annoying, everyone must think so as I don't hear from anyone' etc etc.

I have not been well lately and I'm finding the constant 'monitoring' of my every fucking move very irritating.

When I told her I was pregnant she was upset because she 'knew what I had to go through'. She would often cry. Second preg she cried again and I fucking flipped. I said all I've ever wanted was to be normal. Have two children, a job. Just be bloody normal.

I'm now an adult with low self esteem, anxiety and a range of emotional problems. However I have been reasonably successful in work etc and I think I'm a decent mum.

But I walk around with a cloud. I worry about my mum. She is lonely, she is needy. There's only me. I have no siblings. She makes me feel guilty for not living closer but I had to move for work opportunities that just don't exist at home. I'm just tired.

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EndOfTheRainbowInSight · 29/03/2015 14:27

She sounds a bit narcissistic, tbh. They always do try to make you feel guilty. Certainly a touch toxic. Has she got worse as you both older?

You could try suggesting yshe get involved in some local groups or activities, there are also loads of charities out there crying out for inputs. Ultimately she has to do things herself though.

Another for the stately homes thread, there's some useful links on there. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2338384-But-we-took-you-to-Stately-Homes

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notsurewot2do32 · 29/03/2015 15:12

Yeah she defo sounds narcissistic.. There's a lot of enmeshement going on...you are your own person OP not an extension of this woman. Don't feel guilty for living your own life. Is going NC an option? Or would that be too difficult for you at this point in time?

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FiftyShadesOfNifty · 29/03/2015 16:58

She sounds really hard to deal with.

My DM is hard-going too. In different ways to yours, but I get how confusing and tiring it is.

Im absolutely swathed in FOG (fear, obligation, guilt) and struggle with how I'm supposed to be.

I've realized a lot of things about myself in the last few years and feel a bit stuck with these weird personality traits (people pleaser, quite needy) as I don't know how to change and break free of some of the behaviours I know I've learnt from DM.

One thing I do know is that I'm not responsible for my DM's happiness. You are not responsible for yours either. I try to acknowledge when she's being particularly tough-going and step back a bit emotionally so I don't get embroiled in it. I've had to do a lot of boundary-setting over the years, particularly where my DC are concerned, and we now operate at a level that i am comfortable with (I suspect she isn't, but that's the way it is).

What I find really tricky is reconciling taking an arms-length-approach with the woman who is my own mother. It saddens and confuses me and I often wobble and think it's me being cold/controlling and wonder if I should let her in a bit more, but every time I do I end up hurt or confused... So I guess it's all for the best.

Sorry to bang on about me but I wanted to say you're not alone and I hope some of this helps. The ladies on the stately homes threads are very experienced in dealing with difficult/narcissistic people. I've gleaned a lot of useful info from there so perhaps check that thread out.

I really feel for you. People with lovely relationships with their mums don't get this at all.

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AshrosIe · 29/03/2015 17:23

Fifty, I could have totally written your post. I also find myself being a pleaser and on wobbly days feeling a bit needy (although I do my damnedest not to show it!)

I kind of go out of my way to build rapport with everyone around me, I think to prove to myself that I'm not an unlikeable person. I've recently learned to deal with the odd person not liking me - I'm fairly cheerful and that doesn't appeal to everyone - and it's actually quite liberating.

Mn is great on those wobbly days though Smile

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FiftyShadesOfNifty · 29/03/2015 19:28

MN is great, indeed!

My people-pleasing isn't so much about being liked (and in fact, thinking about it, I think I half expect most people to dislike me), it's more about angst as to whether I've done something to upset them.... Maybe it's paranoia rather than people-pleasing GrinConfusedSad

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Tellmetheduckstory · 29/03/2015 20:08

Thank you all.

I never considered her a narc. I don't doubt she loves me and her DGs for one second. And she's always helped me when I needed it but I find that when I am around her I get angry sometimes, and depressed. She spent her 'good years' as it were caring for her mother. Her mother was a whole other ball game. Jesus. So when she died it got worse as the focus was shifted on to me.

I have too much anger in my heart.

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Tellmetheduckstory · 29/03/2015 20:14

One minor but odd thing: when I was a child, I wasn't allowed to like things she didn't. For example; I had to pretend to hate Kylie Minogue when really I wanted to sing all her songs! Silly now but looking back I find that really fucking sad! I hate Dora the Explorer but I encourage DD's enjoyment of it!

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FiftyShadesOfNifty · 29/03/2015 20:14

duck I'm angry too. And my DM's mother was a piece of work as well.

How often do you see her?

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FiftyShadesOfNifty · 29/03/2015 20:17

Ahh that's really sadSad

One thing I've read about narc mothers is the tendency to treat their daughters (and other children) as an extension of themselves. This is true for my DM - not so much in an engulfing way (as yours sounds a bit) but more in a boundary less way.

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FiftyShadesOfNifty · 29/03/2015 20:19

Oops sorry, pressed post too soon.

I found it useful (and distressing) to read up on narc behaviours so that I understood them a bit better and could watch out for them too. Doesn't make it any easier to deal with and actually seeing my DM's behaviour fitting into various narc descriptors was quite a harsh realisation. But it has gone some way to helping me process it all.

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DistanceCall · 29/03/2015 20:38

Narcissists can often dote on a child because they see him/her as an extension of themselves. That's why you weren't allowed to ride a bike, as it was "too dangerous", and god forbid the precious extension of herself be endangered. That's why you weren't allowed to have any different tastes from her own. That's why she cried on learning you were pregnant, because she could only see your pregnancy in terms of her own (i.e. difficult).

My father's mother was like this. I cannot say she didn't love him. But she certainly didn't love him as his own person, and the damage was considerable (ultimately, she disinherited because he dared to go against her will and refused to divorce my mother).

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