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Shaking and feel sick(134 Posts)
Apologies if this is rambling or all over the place but that's exactly what my head's like at the moment.
I don't post often at all but I'm a super regular lurker and find Mumsnet fab and full of great advice and info.
I am 38 and have a DD aged 5yo. We live with my 'partner' who is DD's Daddy. We've had a colourful past (but nothing hugely out of the ordinary) and broke up in 2007 (then I found out I was pregnant). DD and I stayed in the house until April 2009 and then moved out until Summer 2011. We - Mummy and daddy - seemed to getting along just fine. The reason for this split was a mixture of several things but instigated by my 'D'P. He said I didn't support him enough primarily. His Mum has vascular dementia and 'we' were the main carers. He also has two DS's from previous relationships so we were either looking after Mum or Ds's! But I feel I played my role very well and tried to be a good SM and almost-DIL.
Conversations, instigated by P whenever we were together, centred around getting back together, getting married, having more kids, being a family. Eventually, I bit the bullet and went back. Things on the whole have been good. We've lost three babies (February 2012 @ 14 weeks, February 2013 @16 weeks and July 2013 @9 weeks) and have supported one another well. I had a down period where it all got to me throughout October and November 2013 but came through it.
I had a period of time where I found some emails and texts (call it female intuition / gut instinct) and I addressed this with him in February 2012). Sorted. Or so I thought. He was adamant that he would stop any inappropriate texting / communicating etc.
For about 18 months I felt happy and didn't feel the need to snoop.
Moving forward to October 2013 - I needed to check my mobile phone charges as there were extra charges on the bill. Whilst looking innocently at the data, I noticed calls to a new number early in the morning, every morning, whilst he was on his way to work. And on his way back home. And whenever I wasn't at home / away for the weekend or overnight. Three calls to this number that totalled about 3 hours and the calls were made in the middle of the night. I was away.
I didn't say anything as didn't have the energy and wanted to see how things panned out.
'D'P is always a good, fun Daddy, found a decent paying job (was unemployed after redundancy for 18 months) and was loving towards me.
But - I've had this niggling feeling ever since and feel like I can't trust him. Still. So yesterday evening, he went to the gym after closing down his Yahoo page. When he left I went to see if there was a slim chance he'd not logged out. He hadn't. Emails to about three different women completely overstepping boundaries. Let's meet up for drinks, miss you, compliments, flirting, mildly sexual at times.
But the icing on the cake for me? I took in a 'friend' and her DS (friends with my DD and same age as her) who had split from her boyfriend and was in a dark place. Depressed and anxious and on a cocktail of AD's. 'We' helped her through it all. She ended up staying a year in total (August 2012 until August 2013). I had issues with 'D'P' and her being too close for my liking. On one hand he would tell me how terrible she was, bad mother, neglectful, irresponsible etc. But on the other hand they spent lots of time together whilst I was away. Away being for work or visiting friends or my Mum which I do often with my DD. He used to make me out to be nuts and losing the plot in terms of how I felt about their 'friendship'. I left it at that as there was too much going on in my head re my baby losses.
Emails between 'D'P and this bint - the one I took in, supported, sat with, talked with, shared my home with - catching up with one another. But snippets of the emails (all directed by him / instigated by him) were: miss you, when are you in London next (she moved to Czech after an ugly court case which I accompanied her to!) as I would like to see you, when have you got time for me?, have you got space in your heart / head for missing me?, we lived under the same roof for a year and I grew close to you mentally and physically and talking about me too and how I was being at that particular time.
I have changed his password and have added his email account to my iphone so can access today and until he can change it. Have forwarded incriminating emails to my work email so I have them Have also made a note of any suspect email addresses..
I have taken my laptop and some clothes for me and DD and am heading over to my Mums after school pick up. I can't bear to see him. It was hard enough being 'normal' last night as didn't want it all disclosed then whilst DD was in the house. I'm back on Sunday evening. I have put a friend on standby to have DD should I decide to talk to him.
He doesn't know I know yet but I am going to send him a text later saying that I know about his shennanigans but need time and space to digest. I am also going to ask him to stay with a friend for the week next week although I'm pretty sure he won't.
The house is in both our names. We're not married but he keeps talking about how he wants to be married. We've been engaged since 2005!!! Obviously we had a break.
I am going to email the 'frienemy' to tell her I know. I know it's not sensible but I want her to know I know.
I have spoken with two RL friends. Was helpful but my head is in a spin! I don't want to tell my Mum yet and am scared about what the future holds. My DD is sooooooooooooooo happy with us both and I'm panicking at the thought of changing her life.
I'm shaking, at work, can't eat, feel sick and can't concentrate. Am leaving in half an hour though. Feel sick, sick, sick...it's the 'frienemy' that has thrown me completely off balance. Such betrayal from someone I considered a friend and went out of my way to help.
I don't know what to do next...I feel lost. He's messed everything up big time.
I don't think I can think of him the same ever again. I won't ever trust him or respect him as a man or partner. He's a great Daddy but hasn't he ever stopped to think how he would feel if someone was doing what he was doing to his DD?????????????
Sorry for the ramble but wanted to try and get as much info down as possible.
I won't be able to respond now for a while (not sure if I'll be able to today at all as at DM's and I really don't want her to know yet) but will be checking in soon.
Thank you for reading.
Great to hear you are still being strong. How lovely that you love your snazzy hair do.
The problem with him is that its a long history of lies, fuck ups, indiscretions and other selfish twattish behaviours - how can you wipe all of these out?
Glad his friend now knows what the real deal is - these men can never be honest about themselves and their own failings. If he was a real man, he would have been honest with this friend wouldn't he?
Thank you MissScatterbrain! I feel very happy with my hairdo and love the bounce !
I do have my moments and do have several wobbles a day but today I feel OK. Still feeling sicky and there's a constant funny feeling in my tummy. And am trying to nibble on nuts etc. But not easy.
Yes, a long line of fuck ups have come to bite him on the arse and he is feeling very sorry for himself. They can never be wiped out.
I am a very forgiving person by nature but he really has pushed me to my limit. I am not prepared to waste any more time on him although I am determined to come through this without the two of us hating one another or making things awkward around DD. If anyone will make it difficult it'll be him as he's not in control. He's usually very calm and laid-back and takes everything in his stride. Nothing (outwardly) phases him. Let's see how he deals with this huge mess.
I expected his friend to know almost everything at least. But he (obviously) dumbed it down and told his mate it was over some emails and clearly made a bigger deal about my snooping. But the friend now knows why I snooped and the back story. He is not impressed. Said he didn't have a clue. Just goes to show how sneaky P is! He wouldn't want friend to think he was anything but a proper family man looking after his house and two girls would he???
I will be the man you want me to be.
What he means is "I will be the man you want me to be if you agree to let me keep lying to you, pretend that I didn't sleep with anyone else, stop going on about it and let me move back in and carry on with my cushy life."
That's a very big 'if'.
What about telling him that the man you want him to be is your ex partner, who is a good father to his daughter and co-operative with the separation? Then see how accommodating he is.
He is still only thinking of himself.
Faire he is only thinking about himself. He doesn't want to go. But he will have to. Eventually for good. Right now, I think I'm being accommodating enough and he comes back to see DD, get clothes etc. That's fine by me as it's not a big deal and pretty easy to deal with. Apart from his odd idiotic comment infront of DD.
He would be the man I want him to be. For about six months. And then proceed to build up his address book with new numbers and new email addresses. And so the cycle would start again.
This is becoming very clear to me. I love him unfortunately and that's the bit that's making me struggle at times.
What about telling him that the man you want him to be is your ex partner, who is a good father to his daughter and co-operative with the separation?
That is EXACTLY what you should say.
why doesn't HE want to be a man who is faithful and loyal and decent? does he really need you to want it for him in order to be it?
blimey. doesn't have very high standards does he?
join I will need to use that at some point I think!!!
numpty you're right. If he wanted it for himself he might stay on track. Doing it for me means he won't do it for long...until he thinks the trust is back is all!
And this is a man who insists he has high standards and great morals. Ha!
exactly purple, sorry.
being faithful and kind and considerate and putting your family first should be what we want for ourselves, not something we'll agree to emulate if we get a comfy home and status quo in exchange. it should be basic, not a... if you give me this i'll do this.
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