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New man, body issues(46 Posts)
So I've been seeing someone for a little while. He's a single parent, so tends to be nights around his watching a film, some food, wine etc one his daughter has gone to sleep, unless she is with her mother and then we go out.
Sorry in advance if it's too much info, but we''ve had sex twice and a session before that which involved lots of kissing, touching etc but not penetrative sex. Each time has been wonderful, the sex is amazing and has been a session with lots of attention paid etc lasting a few hours.
Now I don't think he has any issue with this at all, but I'm overweight. Not grossly, but am a size 16-18. The first couple of times I kept some element of clothing on (perhaps as a comfort / safety thing??) However, last time we both ended up stripped completely, and whilst I loved the full skin contact, I was a bit self conscious at first.
I know the obvious thing to do is lose some weight, and I plan / want to anyway, but how can I feel less self conscious about it in the meantime?? He really does make me feel amazing, showers me and my.body with attention, several orgasms etc. I know it's not exactly a life stopping problem, but he's the first new person I've been with in quite some time.
Manabout, that's a despicable comment.
The truth is that there are some men who do indeed like a very thin body, social media puts this forward as the ideal, very thin with huge boobs. I have seen comments by men that say someone like Cheryl Cole could do with losing more weight.
Thank goodness we are all different. I like a man to be a bit on the cuddly side but I also like to see fit men (though not keen on the muscly abs look), so there is hope for us all (hopefully!)
Also OP how lucky are you? A man who loves to give oral sex to a woman is a very nice man indeed!
Oral sex is not the holygrail of sex and men do not deserve a pat on the head for daring to go south (how brave they are).
On the other hand I am a bigger girl I have had four kids and never had a problem with guys, finding it strange that a man likes my jelly belly or unpert boobs is more about social programming than anything else. We are told there is noooo way a man could possibly find that attractive.
They do and some actively prefer it. Enjoy it, revel in it, let yourself be uninhibited and confident.
He will find you even sexier.
Size 16-18 is not overweight. Marilyn Monroe was a size 16 and one of the sexiest women ever to draw breath. Women's clothes sizes are all utter bullshit anyway as there's no common frame of reference - what's a 16 in M&S will be an 18 in Evans, a 14 in Next, and possibly even a 22 in Primani, which makes a mockery of the whole shebang and, in my opinion, is one of the major contributing factors to body image issues in teenagers and young women.
Rant over. Now - and this is supposition on my part - I suspect your new guy finds your curves irresistible. If so, he and I are of the same breed - I much prefer curvy women with a proper womanly shape. If I may venture a comment on the safety blanket - my OH does this as well (on the infrequent occasions we do get down to it) and, to me, it's a barrier, at a time and a place where there shouldn't be any barriers. I really wish she could learn to be happy in the skin she's in, and would advise you to try and do the same. Best of luck in your new relationship
Sorry to go slight off topic, but Marilyn Monroe had a 22-23 inch waist. There is no way she was ever a size 16; even in vintage sizing!
Cut off before I've finished- OP I'm sure your new guy finds you gorgeous because he's with you! Enjoy yourself
Unless you are 6'3" a size 16-18 is definitely overweight. You might not like that but it's a fact. Also Marylyn monroe was not a size 16 at any point in her life. Look at pictures of her - that is simply not possible.
overweight by whose measure? Those stupid charts on the wall of the doctor's surgery? By those standards every professional rugby player in the country is obese, which is nonsense. I may be wrong on Marilyn - as per my original post, dress sizes are arbitrary at best and the translation between US sizes and UK sizes is not an exact science - but let's not fixate on that...
At 5"6 I am definitely overweight. Not horrifically so, and I carry my weight well, if that makes sense. Even back in the days when I was a size 8 I've had an hourglass figure with boobs, bum and waist and I've kept that shape, but the dimensions have grown.
I kind of think that sexy is more an attitude thing than a physical thing, for me anyway. And as I said I do feel quite sexy.
I agree about the barrier of clothes. I think I'll be quite happy to have none now, but it did make me feel more secure the first couple of times.
And for me it really is the holy grail! I've never had sex like this before. I've had lots of amazing sex, but not had so much attention paid to my whole body and felt so desired.
And I don't really think it's social conditioning. I don't like the appearance of my jelly belly so wouldn't expect anyone else to. I know we all have our own individual tastes etc though.
Overweight by anyone's measure! Find me a size 18 woman who doesn't carry too much fat on her body (excluding body builders) and I'll agree with you. And by too much I mean too much for health, not for arbitrary standards of attractiveness. Those charts on doctors' walls are generally quite accurate tbh, I know they don't apply to huge rugby players but that's not what we are talking about, we are talking about women, and if your body measurements make you a size 16-18 then you are carrying excess fat.
I'm not a body fascist by the way, I'm a size 16, but I'm not trying to kid anyone or myself that I'm not overweight, because I patently am.
You'd have to be pretty tall Sault to carry off being a 16-18.
Most people I know who are average height- 5 4"-, 5 6" and who are that size are 2-4 st overweight. The problem is that around 40%+ of women are now that size and people have lost perspective on what is healthy.
Not loving the stick insect and deck chair comments here!!
Fwiw I think people who are "skinny" can have a hard time too! Not nice to have names like that aimed at you if you are naturally built that way!!
Ive always been small. Im quite tall and from puberty have been the lanky skinny one with no boobs. Having ds bulked me out a bit more but regardless of how much I eat im still the size I am. I find it hard to think tjat a man will find me attractive withoit a curvier figure...I.e boobs and less spindly arms etc. Comments like that do not help!
Op ypu sound lovely. As does your new bf. Enjoy and embrace it all!
I was really nervous the first few times with dp...covered up the saggy baby belly and all the stretch marks.....but now we are totally comfortable being naked with eachother and enjoy it
And bmi is not all that accurate.
I was classed as overweight in school. I weighed 8.5 stone. I was skinny. But as they do not take in to account build.....I was classed as overweight. That got me labelled as the " fat sticck insect" until I was 16. Real nice.
My son has also been classed as very overweigjt. He is 2.9. He wears age 5 clothes as he is so tall. He is off thechart height and weight wise for his age but has always been on tje same centile for both weight and height. But again they dont take that into account. Theres not an ounxce of fat on him. But still because of that damn chart he is down as overweight.
They dont always get it right.
Im not saying that every size 18 woman is healthy, as tjats obviously not true. But op has said she knows she is a bit overweight and wants to loose a bit for herself. Great. But dont tar everyone with the same brush.
Thank you everyone! I never intended for this thread to be negative towards any body shape, I was just speaking about my own hang ups with regards my own body.
I think we often have a very skewed image of our own bodies, so magnify what would be non issues to other people, which is what I feel I've done. My guy doesn't see an issue but I do. Likewise I see no issue at all with his supposed very minor weight gain, but he's seen a change he doesn't like.
Ultimately men like all different types of women. And women of the same height and dress size will still often have different builds and carry weight differently regardless of size. If I think about my male friends and their respective partners, that is a whole spectrum of female body types, and I bet if asked what the ideal was among them, most of my friends would give a different answer!
I think he sounds marvellous tbh.
OP - he wants to spend forever down there I can climax a few times
I am soooo jealous.
I don't think this post should turn into a debate about wether a size 16-18 is healthy or not. That wasn't the issue. The OP has said in the post she wants to loose weight but the question was about gaining confidence in the meantime. Negative comments about being overweight probably won't be too helpful.
OP beauty is in the eye of the beholder and he sounds like he definitely finds you beautiful, that in itself should be a big confidence booster. Enjoy!
I'm a bit on the scrawny side - underwear is your friend OP.invest in something that you feel good in, that suits you , and you'll ooze confidence. I love leaving the lights on, but nothing wrong with dimming them, few fairy lights. He really won't be looking at a wobbly tummy. Who care about that! Enjoy- and just think Of the calories you're burning!
absentmindeddoodles Ignore that idiot! I totally agree with the op's last comment, there are men that love curvy figures, men that love slimmer figures, there's not just one type of man that loves one type of figure I'm a size 8, and have found many, men that love my figure and I'm sure there are posters who are size 14/16/18 that can say exactly the same thing. Don't let one twat bring you down!
"who'd want sex with a stick insect ??? it'd be like shagging a fold up deck chair"
You'll find that men vary in their tastes, which is just as well really isn't it seeing as I'm "built for speed not comfort"
BradleyCoopersCurlyPerm just try and focus on the fact that he started seeing you while you've been the weight you are so you are clearly his type aren't you. Plus he sounds like he's really into your body with all the attention he's giving it. It doesn't sound like he doesn't like your body to me
Well I won't see him now for 4-6 weeks as I'll be working abroad and then he's travelling home for a couple of weeks. Soooo, the next time we see each other I could have started some serious work on the jelly belly!
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