dh just packed and left.

[enlightenmequick]

I'm afraid I will end up drip feeding. I can't type out everything in one go' because I'm afraid I might cry.

I think it's just the death of a 1000 cuts. I just lost it today in the car and told him, I'm done. Straw the broke the camel's back- I asked about getting DM to babysit and going out. He said we have no money, which is true, fair enough. A week or 2 later he is going to poker with his mates. OK. Not too bad as they only put a fiver in the pot and take beers. Then suddenly it is, we are going around town later. Had an arguement about it and I assumed he was just going to the poker. Today is the day, and he is off out, but not before he has tried to twist it and say, I did think we had no money, and I did ask you if you wanted to go out then after the argument. (To me, this was just because he realised he had to, because he wanted to go out with his friends)

Went out to a private clinic today, with youngest dcs about something that I have been panicking about for weeks, months, years. Dc's didn't cry, but I did. Doctor ended up hugging me. Dh was sat in the waiting room with other dc's. We was told to wait for 10 mins, before we leave after the procedure and what does dh do? Goes outside leaving me on my own with dc's while he makes arrangements for his night out tonight.

I had to explain to him why I was angry, and besides that, I had to ask a complete stranger in the waiting room to watch the dc's becasuse my D's wanted the toilet.

I'm fed up of being his moral compass, which I told him. It's exhausting always having to explain everything from my point of view.

He went upstairs and when he got down, he had a bag packed. He said goodbye, and I said for good? And he nodded. So I said OK and as he left my bitch came out and I said have fun, and then shut the door.

I don't know if this is it or not. If I even want it to be. I don't want this life but I'm not sure the other is going to be better. I'm dreading telling dcs. What a mess.

I've spent a long long time, tooing and growing between leaving and staying. I am the worlds best circular arguer, in my own head, I rumunciate and procrastinate to the point that it drives me mad.

Some perspectives from you lovely lot might help, but please be gentle. I'm not in a good place right now.

[Morgause]

You can at least plan a future for yourself and the DCs now without him letting you down.

Small steps. Good luck.

[enlightenmequick]

Thanks morgause

I've given the dcs jam sandwiches for dinner, and I'm having a liquid dinner- does that count as small steps?

The bastard took a cigar out with him as well, as though it was celebratory.

[enlightenmequick]

Oh god, the Christmas tree goes up tomorrow. This is the most shit timing ever.

[cjel]

Tiny steps. keep breathing, Liquid tea ok as long as no booze if you have dcs? You will no longer have to be the moral compass and at least you know it is up to you to do things. Spoil yourself to death and do what ever you want to. Put films on and sit under the duvet eating chocolate. Treat yourself just as you would advise a friend to.

[LEMisafucker]

Was it you that had the procedure at the clinic? He is well out of order and no, i doubt it is "for good" he is being a fucking arsehole and trying to fuck with your head. He will probably stay at a friends (or somewhere elese ) let you sweat it out and come back expecting you to beg him to come home - surprise him, he is a selfish cunt

[Effic]

Small steps ..... You don't need to make any decisions now. Your emotions will be all over the place so don't start making any dramatic decisions and just live with it for a few days first. Tell children that you have had a bit of a row and that he has gone to stay with whoever for a while. Change the frigging locks though if he has a key because you need to have the decision making power. Other than that just get through the days and see where you emotions take you. You will convince yourself it wasn't as bad as you think and at other times you will be as mad as hellfire and never want him to darken your doors and then you'll panic about money/looking after children and then the guilt will set in about the children and round you will go. Any decisions made in those circumstances will poor ones so simply - don't make any until you have had some time and perspective. If you are meant to be - your relationship will survive even this, if not well he's not in the house so that is step 1.

[notapizzaeater]

Put theatre up tomorrow and remember it as being the start of our new life without his baggage

[ImperialBlether]

You know what? He's laughing now but when he realises he's got no home, has to book to see the children and has to deal with them on his own, has to give you child support, is on his own for Christmas and so on, he'll be crying and moaning and whining about his hard life.

He sounds to me as though he's meeting a woman, tbh. I don't want you to feel worse, but it seemed as though he had somewhere to sleep tonight. What a prize idiot.

Stay strong, OP. This is who he truly is.

[RedLondonBus]

How is that for good? If won't be, it's so he can have a good night out tonight, and justify it (where is he sleeping tonight?)

Then tomorrow he will start his patter.... You'll get the calls and texts

Do you have a joint account? I think you need to move the money from it

[Lweji]

You did really well, actually.

Either he was expecting you to beg him to stay, and you didn't.

Or he is going to someone else, in which case good riddance.

You haven't lost much. He wasn't there for you or the children anyway.

Go on, have some food, even if biscuits and have a rest.

Whatever happens, do not ask him to go back. If he wants to go back and you are prepared to accept him back, then you should have very clear boundaries and expectations of him.

[Lweji]

And, yes, mind any joint money.

[enlightenmequick]

No, 3 dcs lem it's not a serious thing in itself, it's just the possibility of side effects. It's not serious at all, perhaps calling it a procedure was too clinical, but don't want to out myself too much by saying the correct thing.

We live away from our home town imperial so he always stays out at a friends or more usually his dms. So that's not worrying me, plus I overheard him on the phone talking to one friend saying x has offered for me to stay there.

We fell out Tues because I wanted to go to a time trial for my sport ( I've been 2 times since middle of October) and he wanted to stay over in an hotel because the commute was 1 and half hours. He has ignored me since, until I once again, broke the silence this morning. Sick of it. I have no life.

[nopanicandverylittleanxiety]

I would have done the same as you today. I hope you are ok.

[enlightenmequick]

No, no joint account. I'm sahm and not married. Put dh to not out me, but it will be relevant to the thread.

House in his name only, because I have bad credit record.

[enlightenmequick]

And I'm sorry cjel but I've had 2.

[Kyrptonite]

Hope you're ok OP. He sounds like a twunt. Do you rent/own? Whose name is the house in? Can you access any joint money? Sorry I know its a bit soon but whilst you're in the frame of mind that he's an arse it's best to make sure you're covered before he tries winning you over with talking crap

[Kyrptonite]

Oh just saw last post.

Do you have any of your own money?

[Vivacia]

Brilliant advice from Effic above about decisions made now will be bad ones. Write down plan(s) of action and leave it there for now. I think you've done just the right thing. Let him go and don't beg for him to stay.

Due to your marital and financial situation I think you need legal advice as soon as possible. Is he the legal father of your children?

[enlightenmequick]

No, no money. He doesn't have much either.

Yes the dcs are is. Been together over 10 years.

[cjel]

then !!! Just look after yourself don't make yourself ill as he will probably come back sometime tomorrow and you want to be able to think straight and getting drunk won't help!!!x

[enlightenmequick]

effic he works away a lot. I will just say he is at work, they are pre schoolers.

[Ebayaholic]

It does sound a bit like he doesn't want any family responsibilities and if that's the case, you're better off on your own, at least then you can't be let down. Calm down and use this time for reflection. See how he behaves now, this will tell you everything you need to know. I'm so sorry for you

[PublicEnemyNumeroUno]

He'll be back. Ive had the same thing happen in the past, funnily enough it was a poker night aswell, and funnily enough its poker night tonight for DH and his mates and this is probably the firsr time we havent argued before fucking poker

Sleep on it, your mind will be more clear im the morning to make choices about what you want.

[CogitoErgoSometimes]

He doesn't think you're very intelligent, does he? Cooking up a fight so that he can flounce off and stay out all night has to be the oldest trick in the book. I would be calling a locksmith and getting a few fresh bolts put on the doors quite honestly. 'Big man' flouncing out.... not such a big man when he has to plead to be let back in..... :)

[enlightenmequick]

Do you know what I really want? A big crystal ball, that tells me that staying works out the best, or leaving works out the best.