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Good luck tzella - I hope that overall the thread has been helpful and am sorry that some posts have been less than helpful to you.

good luck tzella

Good luck, tzella. I hope it all goes smoothly and that you are making a decision that is right for you.

Good luck, Tzella Hope this year turns out more pleasant and less complicated!

GOOD LUCK.

I hope it all goes well for you. How dare people be so nasty to you! it is your decision, only you can know what is best for you.

It wont be easy, but you will be fine.

x

Tzella whatever decision you make (and you may still change your mind) will be the right one for you.
No-one else has the right to judge you.
If you want to have this baby then do. You will find a way round your toxic ex even if it starts with having the fucker deported. In fact I'd probably do this anyway, it will save you or some other poor woman in the UK being beaten black and blue!
Take your time and remember this is your body and your baby
Have some very unMN hugs and kisses!
xxx

Tzella - I read your post with relief. In all my years on MN, this is the first time I have felt that way when someone has said they have booked the appointment. You need to be completely free of this 'man' to have any kind of life in the future.

Hugs and I hope all goes well.

Good luck Tzella thanks for coming back to update.

I think you've been really brave Tzella, its a shit situation, its never easy having an abortion, but sometimes its a must, it might have been different if this man was gone for good but, i wouldnt want to bring a child into the world with a man like that. Good luck love x

Good Luck, tzella.

Knowing what I know in my life now, after a failed marriage and being a lone parent to two dc, if I were you in your position I would have this child. Good luck to you.

Hope it all goes smoothly for you. I think it's good that this man is not going to be a part of your life any more.

It's too late now but I wanted to add to his
The crucial question is deep in your gut do you want the baby?

It's not just "do you want a baby?" but "do you want a baby, then a toddler, then a small child, then a larger child, then a teenager, then an adult who is your child?".

Best of luck love, it won't be easy.

Tzella

This was going to be a very difficult situation no matter which way you decided. Fwiw I think you made the right choice. You deserve a life without fear and after reading this thread it looks like the ex is the kind of controllingnon-human who would milk a dc for all it was worth. I am 2 years post abusive relationship with a non-national and im still looking over my shoulder - there have been times when the fear and harassment from the US lawyers has nearly broken me (not to mention its broken my parents bank account).

Hugs to you.

Good luck with your decision. OP, and with moving on.

fwiw I think it good that you will have some time to focus on YOU - and what you want to make happen in your life.

You have been experiencing an abusive relationship, and it might be good to take time to look at that, and give yourself time to recover and gather your strength and confidence. Relationships aren't a matter of fate or some sort of fate-determined cycles - yes there's a ot of luck in whether you meet the right person, but whether you fall for an abuser, or begin and maintain a relationship on YOUR terms are down to you and your two strong arms.

Look after yourself!

Decision made and I’m making an appointment with the GP for a termination. Thanks to almost all of you. I’m not terribly impressed with replies victim blaming and using textbook abusive tactics; implying I am ‘fucking stupid’ and using grandiose language in clichés as if they are fundamental truths. Not cool at all.

Being a parent, and especially being a single parent on a less than wealthy income, is incredibly hard work, financially ruinous, socially restricting, a lifelong committment.

People do it because they really wnat a child so much that none of the abve is a deterrent, or they do it because having found themselves pg they then fall in love with their baby and it makes it all worthwhile. Hopefully.

You can really want a baby, then find that the reality is doing your head in, and regret parenthood, even though you love the child.
You can fear pg and feel you don't want a baby and then do a cpmplete U turn when you fal in love with the baby.
You can resent being pg and then resent being a parent - this is a terrible outcome for the child.

How far are you prepared to take a gamble with your own happiness? Did you feel an instinctive boost of excitement, plesasure or fulfillment when you saw the test result?

That bus would appear to have gone, Marianne.

Tzella had her chance to be rid of this abusive UK oxygen thief last summer but, despite his violence towards her, she resumed her relationship with him and contnued to pander to his needs until little more than a week ago.
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It's a fact that some are driven by inner conflict, caused perhaps by dysfunctional childhoods or other trauma, to engage in sex with abusive men. I make no judgement except to say that such a relationship, and the environment it creates, is not one in which a child can flourish.

Neither is the op an incubator for any DNA that happens to take root there! Have some respect for her as a woman! Never mind "aw baby baby bay aw so cute I want one aw baby", how about 'make sure that the man who blacked you eyes won't be legally tied to you for the next eighteen years, using your joint offspring as an excuse to continue to abuse you

I know the response I will get, but this: "for any DNA that happens to take root there" - it doesn't just happen. Here is a chance for a woman to respect herself and not have (unprotected) sex with an abusive man.

I think OP you may well have this man in your life at some point if you have a child by him. It is not so easy to cut out the father of your child. It is the great rubicon, and once you have crossed it there is no going back. Even if you try to conceal it, Dad may find out about the paternity. The child would have every right to know who his/her father was and wont want to believe you when you tell him/her that Dad is a scuzzbag.

Do you want your baby enough to go through the difficulties which having him/her would entail? The ususal money/support ones and the extra complications of not reliably being able to walk away from the father for ever??? It could work out well, it might be very hard, do you want the baby enough to take the risk?

Whether the OP decides to terminate or not, I agree with Marianne.
I hope this doesnt sound unsupportive as I dont mean it to be. You shouldnt have to have this baby if you dont want to, of course not, but if you terminate be really really sure you want a baby before gettting pg again. (this may not be something the OP suggested, and I appreciate it is a side point).

OP from your last thread, and indeed this one too, you sound like a very strong and brave woman. You are truly inspirational. You have handled a very difficult and trumatic experiance with grace and dignity.

I have no doubt that you would make a fantastic mother. I equally have no doubt that you are strong enough to handle what ever decision you come to.

It is a bit short sighted to think that the OP will "only" endure 18/19 years of future abuse from this man if she goes through with the pregnancy.

If he is a real abusive manipulative shit, he will also most likely behave like that to the child, too (Well maybe not the violence). OP will most likely have to facilitate both visitations and holidays together, unless she goes through some lengthy and costly legal process to ensure he is not in her life. And the child? Will suffer years of anxiety and problems due to his/her fathers behavior. And he is not going to magically disappear, or stop contact when Child is 18/19/25/50 etc. He will be in your lives, through the child.

I am basing the above on my sisters experience with her ex, and my nieces life with such a father. There is no end to the turmoil he causes his daughter through text, emails, phone calls.

He would need to be having regular contact with the child to be able to stay in the UK on that basis, OP. at the moment, the new immigration laws that seek to limit human rights applications are being challenged so its all a bit up in the air but yes, it is POSSIBLE that he could get to stay in the country because of your child.

I'm not sure what I would do in your situation but one thing I'm 100% sure of is that I would NEVER ever tell that man that he's the father if he found out, in fact I would lie to absolutely everyone and tell them I wasn't as far along and make out like I had a one night stand who fathered the baby, a rebound thing after it ended with him. I'd move away to another area and make sure my child was safe from him.

He will use you and your baby to stay in the country and he would be entitled to access and there is no way I could allow that with a violent man. Especially as he could flee to another country, god I can't imagine the horror of having my child taken away like that.

Good luck OP, whatever you decide. If you decide to keep the baby you have to keep both of you safe, when the hormones etc kick in you'll be tempted to tell him and may want him back, please don't as you would definately regret it down the line and your child shouldn't suffer for it.