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Yes I'm thinking run for the hills before I get emotionally attached!

I would definitely put him firmly in fwb material, not boyfriend material. Let him spoil you etc, on your terms and continue seeing other male friends. Keep looking for someone nicer. You are worth more.

Hope you don't get hurt OP. Maybe some women can shag without getting emotionally involved, i don't know. I know i've tried to without success in the past.

OP seems to infer that she would like some sort of commitment be it with this man or some other. (last post)

I don't think I would want to commit to a man who thought women were commodities to be "bought" in to pool parties.

And why are people talking about commitment after two fucks and a coffee? FFS

To be fair, if I had the money (and the space) I'd ship in a coach load of models every weekend. I like the place to look nice.

What? He has to hire women to decorate his pool party?

I fear that makes him a tragic misogynist with insufficient friends. If I were you I'd decide how many times I wanted to be 'spoiled' - 3? 10? - and then knock it on the head.

I've no qualms about suggesting you use him, within reason, as you've just identified him as a user. He buys people.

But I would say be careful about overdoing it, or you WILL end up feeling cheap even if you're expensive, iyswim! Better to ditch him soonish, then keep him in your little black book for possible booty call later on.

He'll invite you to his pool party next summer, don't you worry!

He coached in a load of models? Run for the hills.

you shagged Hugh Heffner?

So it is true about swinging then, solidgold. I never said there was anything wrong BTW.

I spent four years with a wealthy commitment phobe. I wouldn't have changed it for the world, four years of great fun and lots of holidays. I was only in my early twenties though and in the final analysis he wanted to commit when I decided to bolt. Depends if you want commitment? he might be fun for a while, just keep your options open and learn to not always be available, don't beg for the credit card and keep it fun. He might be used to women who cling, who are desperate and women who try to take him for a ride financially so if you don't do those things, who knows, at 50 he might come round to the idea of commitment

There isn't actually anything wrong with being middle-aged and living in the suburbs. Sex is not only for the young, fashionable and beautiful.

I'm still here - just fascinated by the other conversation going on.
Um so Friday night was lovely in that he is amazing in bed, we get on very well and the conversation flowed. What isn't so good is that he is clearly utterly commitment phobic (is 50 and never even lived with anyone!) and obviously lives this mad hedonistic lifestyle (according to his friend he shipped a coach load of models into his last pool party in the summer!)
So I can't imagine he is interested in me for anything other than a bit of weekend sex - I have to decide if I want to just treat it as a bit of fun or if I'm in danger of wanting more in which case I should run for the hills!

I always require possible partners to hand over proof of mensa membership first I don't think I would find someone dull to be appealing. I'm not certain you get much conversation going to a swingers party.....I might be wrong, never been to one. I wonder how OP got on????

Not a dig at all. I'm not reallly into swinging but I've got no objections if others are - I can't see the problem with consenting adults doing what they want together. It's just not my thing.
Stupidity is just an instant turn-off so I couldn't ever have sex with someone I found so unappealing. That was all.

I've enjoyed some sex with stupid people. I only need them to be smart enough to figure out what goes where.

Gay, how do you gauge if the swingers are stupid or not? Or was that a dig?

Swinging has the image of middle aged suburban people going at it. Is that the case?

It would be nice to watch attractive bodies ...

Mini - I was single at the time, no DP to worry about or cheat upon. And I didn't DP on that occasion, although my friend did

My DP is completely against the idea of sharing me, so until the next life, it's a memory only.

I actually felt very empowered and liberated after, I used them for my fun.

as for people watching, (the original question), yes, many people do attend purely to soak in the atmosphere, watch others, and stay faithful to their partners.

I find the idea of sex with a stupid person more objectionable than swinging.

Hell, I wasn't judging! I don't need love but do want some personal connection. I've had enough of being blatantly objectified in everyday life; never wanted it when I've got me bits out! I was curious as to whether swinging is as impersonal as I imagine it. Where's SGB when you need her?

I couldn't do swinging, I don't find many men sexually attractive, unless I was out of it on alcohol. This has happened in the past come to think of it and given me the creeps the next day. Now that was sex without feelings. Long time ago now and I would hate to feel like that again.

Or equally, liked the guy and didn't get the phone call!

I suppose an honest swinging thing would take all the out of the equation. I can understand that.

Garlicbaguette...not everyone needs sex combined with love and emotions. Ultimately it is a physical need - nice if you have feelings for the person, nice if you don't particularly.
Swinging isn't my thing but neither is knitting. I don't have any judgements on people who do either (or both).

What a bunch of "baduns" you are I really couldn't be bothered, I would rather have nice glass of red or climb a mountain. I am sooooo boring.

cronullansw did your DP know?

I imagine swingers clubs as very much reducing people to bodies, iyswim, so would be a million miles from my idea of sexy. I'm willing to be told I'm wrong, though?