My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Relationships

Partner Videoing Women

49 replies

NoVictim1 · 15/11/2012 10:16

Im 32 my partner is 41. Been together 8 years and we have a 2 yr old daughter together.
My partner has cheated on me twice.... once when he said he needed space and I moved back to my mothers for a year. He started having a relationship with his ex... got her pregnant and took her on holiday. She had a termination and it ended...we finally got back together and tried to put it behind us.. Then when I thought everything was back on track we decided to try for a baby...which we were blessed with... a couple of weeks after the baby was born he started acting strange...I asked him if anything was wrong but he denyed it but kept acting odd...so I check his phone... He was having an emotional affair with another woman at his work and they had kissed... I blew up.... but because I had a newborn to look after she was my main priority...we worked it out. I still havent forgiven him but Im trying to work it through.

That was 2 yrs ago... he has started acting odd again... so I decided to look at his phone. I can only access his photos and videos so I took a look. (Yes I know its bad to look through his phone but he is hardly going to tell me the truth if he is up to something). Anyway... at first I found that he has started to take videos of women walking around outside of his office. He videos them walking around in their shoes... high heels only. I waited a week and I check them again...this time he has video'd up a womans skirt.
I dont know whats wrong with me, I know this is disgusting and wrong but something isnt letting me feel anything about it. I dont feel angry, I dont feel upset, I just feel irked out. Why am I feeling like this?
Also, Im currently 5 weeks pregnant. We have also suffered three pretty horrendous miscarriages this year.
Im really confused about myself and him.

OP posts:
Report
CogitoErgoSometimes · 15/11/2012 10:22

"Why am I feeling like this?"...

Because, in the process of 'putting it behind you' and 'working it out', you've suppressed your real feelings for so long that you no longer react normally. You are desensitised to his infidelity and lies. You expect betrayal. You may even believe that you don't deserve any better. In that respect, he has successfully manipulated you into accepting any kind of bad behaviour he throws at you.

Even if you feel nothing, ask him to leave. He is a malevolent influence on your life and I think the only way you'll ever recover some normal feelings of self-esteem and self-worth are if you get rid.

Report
NoVictim1 · 15/11/2012 10:24

Easier said than done. I am currently 5 weeks pregnant with a daughter. I dont have any family or friends around me... I dont have any money as I am a housewife. I am literally in a no win situation. Im literally stuck where I am.

OP posts:
Report
ShamyFarrahCooper · 15/11/2012 10:25

Oh OP what cogito says is true.

Also, he is secretly filming women, without their knowledge/permission? That's just horrendous and shows no respect, a complete lack of boundaries. This man sounds pretty toxic.

Report
NoVictim1 · 15/11/2012 10:27

I just dont understand. He is really intelligent, funny, very good looking, earns alot of money...and he chooses to video women???!?!?!!? The fact he tried to video up a womans skirt just sickens me.

OP posts:
Report
CindySherman · 15/11/2012 10:31

It sickens you because it is sick!
He sounds predatory and disgusting. I honestly don't know how you could get past something do horrific and quite frankly, illegal.

Report
Guiltypleasures001 · 15/11/2012 10:31

I would hand his phone to the nearest police station, and how did you find out the sex of the baby at 5 weeks, they must have made some great strides lately.

Report
CogitoErgoSometimes · 15/11/2012 10:32

Of course it's easier said than done but it can be done. Him leaving can be a temporary measure initially. Getting him out of your home and out of your hair will give you the time and space to think properly, probably for the first time in the whole eight years. Get some advice on practical and financial matters from places like CAB or even a solicitor and you'll find you are not as reliant on him as you seem to think. A man that 'earns a lot of money' just pays 'a lot of maintenance' to the children he leaves behind... and that's all he's really good for.

Do nothing... which seems to be your answer at the moment.... and all you're doing is condoning his behaviour and keeping yourself trapped with this miserable, unfaithful, untrustworthy excuse of a human being. You may not think you deserve better than that but of course you do.

Report
perceptionreality · 15/11/2012 10:32

He sounds awful. The videoing sounds compulsive to me, the way you describe it. It's not normal to video random people at work. This quite apart from the fact he's a liar and a cheat.

Really, given the evidence you'll never be able to trust him fully.

Report
hellsbells76 · 15/11/2012 10:33

He's a misogynist and he gets a thrill from violating women's privacy and dignity in that way. Pretty sure it's illegal too. He is treating you with contempt: again because he's a misogynist. What are you getting out of this relationship? Please get rid: you will be entitled to child support and benefits and you'll manage: eventually you will look back and realise it was the best thing you ever did. Do you want your children growing up with such a vile man as their role model?

Report
UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 15/11/2012 10:33

Guilty I think she meant her 2 year old is a girl...

Report
LadyMargolotta · 15/11/2012 10:33

Guiltypleasures001 she is five weeks pregnant AND has a daughter.

Agree, hand phone to the police.

Report
CogitoErgoSometimes · 15/11/2012 10:34

"He is really intelligent, funny, very good looking, earns alot of money...and he chooses to video women???!?!?!!? "

Perverts and predators don't get issued with a dirty raincoat so that you can spot them easily, you know. They come in all shapes and sizes. Remember. You have a choice whether to keep on tolerating this rubbish or not.

Report
NoVictim1 · 15/11/2012 10:35

I am 5 weeks pregant and I also have a daughter.
How can I go to the police? He provides money for my daughter. He would lose his job. Im not about to jeopodise her future.

Thanks Cogito..that gave me some clarity. I think Im going to ask him to leave...I need to get some advice. Im just so sad, Ive done everything to try and make him happy but it never seems to be good enough. Infact, I know its not me...he is the one with the obvious issues.

OP posts:
Report
Thisisaeuphemism · 15/11/2012 10:35

Guilty, she means she has a daughter and is also five weeks pregnant.
Oh dear op. the police sounds a good idea and make plans to leave. This is not going to be a happy relationship.

Report
tethersend · 15/11/2012 10:36

Guilty, she means that she also has a daughter, not that her unborn child is a girl.

Report
NoVictim1 · 15/11/2012 10:37

Also this is a new thing. He has NEVER mentioned anything about having a feet fetish... in the 8 yrs I have known him. I know he looks at porn but npw he just looks a feet sites. This is a brand new thing... I just find it so odd.

OP posts:
Report
hellsbells76 · 15/11/2012 10:42

Good for you: but don't ask him to leave: tell him he's leaving. It's up to you whether to go to the police and I understand your worries about him being able to provide for his daughter, but I think I would struggle with knowing someone is violating their colleagues like that and would have to say something. Men who do that kind of thing often progress to flashing and sexual abuse/rape too. Women aren't people to them, just things - there for their gratification. You're worried he'll lose his job: he should lose his job and should also be prosecuted. He's a menace. Could you move back in with your mum for a bit? Then you wouldn't need his money so much.

Report
DragonMamma · 15/11/2012 10:42

I would feel sick to the pit of my stomach too, because it's sick, dirty and wrong. How you've managed to sit on it already is beyond my comprehension. He would be out on his arse the minute I'd found these complete violations of people's rights.

Sod the money, get yourself down the bank and empty the account of spare cash, leave enough to cover the DD's in there and ask them to freeze it. If you're a SAHM then you don't need to worry about childcare so you can live pretty cheaply with your DD.

Where there's a will, there's a way. I couldn't condone such dreadful behaviour

Report
CogitoErgoSometimes · 15/11/2012 10:43

Men like your DH are never happy. They are thrill-seekers and risk-takers. They enjoy thinking that they are getting one over on you and that you don't know what's going on. They are completely untrustworthy because they get their jollies out of secretive, unsavoury behaviour. Furtively videoing women without their knowledge is part and parcel of someone that doesn't actually like having an honest and open relationship with women.... just enjoys getting their rocks off in private, whatever that takes. Look how he treated his ex and how he treats you. Pick up and put down when it suits.

Report
izzyizin · 15/11/2012 10:45

Has it occurred to you that you may be jeopardising your dd's future by not handing his phone in to the police?

Think about it... is it preferable for all concerned that he gets a warning or a caution now or a prison sentence at a later date when his unchecked peversions escalate to more serious sexual offences?

And are you going to feel entirely happy about sharing care of your dd with a man who videos 'up a woman's skirts'?

Report
CindySherman · 15/11/2012 10:46

The foot fetish is the least of the issues here

Report
mmmnoodlesoup · 15/11/2012 10:46

What a disgusting pervert.

Report

Don’t want to miss threads like this?

Weekly

Sign up to our weekly round up and get all the best threads sent straight to your inbox!

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

strumpetpumpkin · 15/11/2012 10:47

he sounds like a creep. I dont care about peoples fetishes, but the objects of the fetishes should at least be aware and consenting, otherwise its gross and abusive

Report
izzyizin · 15/11/2012 10:51

Foot fetish, Cindy? The man's upped his camera game in more ways than one and, if unchecked, he'll continue to do so.

Report
BookFairy · 15/11/2012 10:57

I'm very sad for you. I think you perhaps need to separate your marriage from the fact that your H has committed an offence. Imagine how those women would feel if they knew he'd filmed up their skirts? What if his behaviour escalates?

Report
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.