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Are you married to a workaholic?(80 Posts)
Can you tell me what you would have done differently at the beggining? I've started seeing somebody who is a diamond but I think the work/life balance thingsmight too difficult to deal with. All advice really welcome.
Where is the OP?
OP, if you would like to have children in the future, be aware that it becomes far, far harder to be with someone who works long hours (if they won't change) after DC. Before, you are independent and can do your own stuff. After DC if they work more (often using the excuse that it's "for the good of you and the DC") you will be alone with them day and night, with v little time for anything you personally want to do, and probably exhausted! It will probably be difficult for you to continue to work, since workaholics are unlikely to shorten hours, take time off for sick DC etc.
My DH has always put work ahead of everything else. He's had a number of different jobs since we've been together but it's always the same. In the beginning I had to insist we actually booked something and went away when he was on leave because he'd have to "pop in" a couple of times to make sure everything was ok.
A few times when he's changed jobs I've thought things will be better, but they never are. It's not the actual job but just work in general.
A couple of years ago he'd arranged to "pop into work" on Boxing day night, to cover people who hadn't turned up. WTAF?! Didn't bother to tell me until an hour before he left, and all our adult children had travelled from their various locations to be with us.
We've all got used to a life without him but it does make me really on behalf of my youngest DD who hardly ever sees him. Plus he decided about 7 years ago that as he was now working such long hours (for no extra pay) he would withdraw from any household chores. Only it didn't occur to him to discuss it with me first, and I work FT as well. Sadly took years before I realised what he was doing (we had teens at the time and he blamed them).
If he earned megabucks and all this working gave us a cushy life I wouldn't mind quite so much, but he earns only a little more than I do and we live from paycheck to paycheck, like most people.
My brother- in -law is/ was a workaholic. Work came first. Intimacy and companionship way down the list. Now he's about to lose his job. He is bereft - It was all for nothing!
DH has been on holiday this week and put his phone on silent
Only so I couldn't hear it and nag, he has got up at 7am all week to work - I let the boys in to his office and stayed in bed he needed some father/son bonding time!
I'm not sure my husband is a workaholic in the addicted-to-ones-job sense but his profession does come before our family most of the time. He describes his job as a vocation and, as such, I feel it is the main driving force in his life. Yes, it provides a comfortable lifestyle but he works away from home and has done since the children were born (3 aged between 6 and 2). Prior to that, his job shifted us around a lot and often with little notice, although it did provide a strong community and support network. He has spent a lot of time overseas - up to six months at a time - with little time off in that period.
I honestly believe he would have the same work ethic if he did the most basic or menial of jobs or if he was CEO of a FTSE100 company - he is simply deficated and driven. He admits he had no financisl security growing up and that he is desperate to secure our children's future. I think this is true but I also think he loves his job and the role it gives him and that I, no matter how much he loves me (and I know he does), cannot compete.
I am very independent and I work hard to ensure the security of our family from the domestic side. I have lots of family support and I must say that my husband is wonderful with the children when he is at home ( every other weekend unless he's overseas). I must also admit that I like our lifestyle and that I am very proud of the job he does and what he had acheived. I wish sometimes we had more time together and that his job wasn't so risky but I did know what I was getting into when I married him!
I'm lurking, it is good to read all your experiences, not dissimilar to mine.
However, exDH was a lazy soandso. I wished for (and duly got) someone who has drive and determination.
I actually wouldn't go back, but as others have said I have made a life for myself. I work PT now, share school runs with other mums locally to me so that is how I can do it.
I will continue to read what others have to say, but I am glad it's not just me who's DP/H are workaholics
Glad to have found this thread. I love DH so much, but the hours he works are so hard. It was OK before we had kids, but the long weekday evenings spent alone are very difficult after several years of it.
I think there possibly is some truth in the argument that workaholics put in huge hours and place such importance on work because they are afraid of failing, particularly if they had a slacker father.
Fil actually said to me once that he regretted that he had not done better in his career, but mil refused to allow him to spend an extra minute at work, go on courses and he had to turn down a promotion because it was 20 miles away instead of 2.
I would also say that workaholics are not usually the "affair" type (famous last words!). For a start they are too busy! And secondly I think they genuinely believe they are doing the best for their family. I know dh does. I think bored men with time and opportunity on their hands are far more likely to find extra-curricular entertainment.
I've been reading this thread with great interest as I think I might be married to a workaholic and I'm wondering what you all think. I'm a regular on this board as 'D'H and I have other issues and he's EA.
We met when we were at uni so this is something he's developed over the last few years. It never used to be a big problem as I'm very independent, but it was a big shock to me when I was pregnant (DD is now nearly 2) and I realised I had no support from him - he refused to come to the first scan as he said he 'wouldn't be able' to get time off work. We live far from any family and have few friends so he pretty much left me to it and I really struggled. I struggled for months with newborn DD and fell ill when I went back to work as he just carried on as normal, he wouldn't even go to the hospital with me for my appointments. .
He works as much as he can (given that he has a long commute), but he isn't a big earner (only a few thous more than me) so it isn't like we have the lifestyle to make up for it. He leaves pretty much all childcare to me and has slowly withdrawn from doing housework over the years. If I ever complain he says he's doing it for 'us' as a family and tells me 'you don't complain when my wages/overtime go into doing up the house' (our house is a wreck so needs a lot of work which realistically we both pay for). He says he hates his job but it's all he has to talk about and he expects me to be interested too.
Part of the reason we're currently having counselling is because I can't handle it anymore. I work full time too and I'm exhausted. He just can't grasp that I need more help from him, as far as he sees it he's 'bringing home the bacon' so I should be happy, and keep him happy too.
As far as rolemodels go, his Dad was (and is) a real loser who has been crap at every job he's ever done, tries to live a lifestyle he can't afford and is shite with money. So I can kind of see why he is he way he is.
this thread is a natural home to me. like you mayisout my sisters and i all married workaholic types as well, and i think it is because my dad wasnt very ambitious or well paid and we looked for the opposite too!
DH has a job that makes him move often and he's always wanted us to move with him so he could see his family everyday. sometimes i have wondered about staying in one place near my family and having DH come back and forth every weekend or whatever, but he's always stated its better we stick together.
iv just spent all weekend on my own with the kids as hes working, took them to town yday afternoon with my brother who travelled over to see me. today was watching cartoons and reading. but theyve all been in bed since 7pm and im just waiting for DH to get back. the nice thing about his working long hours is i have all day to get things done and im quite independent. i actually find it very hard to cope with him if hes home too long now lol, when he has more than a couple of days off im just counting the hours till he goes back to work!
I think it depends on their attitude to family
Dh works all hours but he will try and make time to take ds to school. Ds is only y1 but so far dh has made it to every concert and parents evening. I accept this will not persist, particularly when we have two at school
Someone else I know ended up divorced from her workaholic because he never spent time with the family to the point the kids didn't really know him!
Mind you I didn't have that calm, reasonable attitude when I was stuck at home with screaming baby /fighting toddlers/ stroppy teenagers and no DH to help
But that's a long time ago now and we are still together.
Yes, it's difficult being married to one.
Funnily my Dsis and I are married to workaholic types. But our DF was an alcy who never had a well paid job so I spose, without realising it, we looked for hardworking conscientious men.
But you are free to develop your own life once DCs leave home. I spose my
DH never went to parent's evenings etc but as my DM had done everything in our household I didn't have a problem with that or expect much different.
DCs have turned out fine and we are well off so things could be worse.
Fine to develop your own interests and friendships outside of your partner, but what about sex? How can/do you compensate for the lack of physical companionship?
My DH is of the 'lives to work' breed
But then I found his drive and ambition part of the attraction. I married him knowing I would be a work widow!
On the plus side, he earns well and when he is not working he is 'here'.
On the downside, it can be a bit lonely. As with others, I just do my own thing.
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing because the character traits that make him a workaholic are also traits that make him the man he is.
If you want to be a two peas in a pod couple then I don't think this relationship will work for you. If you value time on your own then it could be good for you. Only you can decide if you are compatible.
I'm with one. He's out at work at the moment. I sort of understand because I used to be like it too, before DD. I know now that I can't change him, and that it is a part of his makeup. It doesn't make it easy, though - I think it's a selfish way to be. I know I am way down the pecking order and I have come to terms with it. Luckily for me, I have my own source of income and do not need to go cap in hand to him for money.
I have my own interests and hobbies, and get on with my life without him.
Good luck I don't think you can change him I was the same all work no play lots of money. She left. I thought she had a dream life doing what ever she pleased but I am now in the reality looking after 2 kids and working part time to keep to wolves from the door, I now know money does not make you happy, love does good luck
Sundae- he is not working hard for everyones benefit, he is working 20 hours a day for his own benefit.
I work full time, and earn enough to run a home, provide for my dependents thank you.
Why do you assume that a) workaholics earn shed loads (some do, many othrs don't) b) their partners do not provide for their family?
Why would you want to be married to a workaholic whatabout?
Sundaegirl, I agree with you.
Of course, it isnt possible to change them, but we didnt all know what we were getting in to.
Frank Pittman, in his book on men and boys, says that workaholism is a controlling behaviour, and to do with over- competitiveness with other men.
I don think working hard for a short while/particular project phase is the same thing.
Can i just say I wish i was married to a workaholic.
Bree, I'm definitely not suggesting that workaholics are 'bastards'. Or that leaving is the only answer.
I suppose what I'm saying is that lots of workaholics are enabled to be like that by their partners. Everything fits in with the workaholic - which he demands is only reasonable since he's working so hard for everyone else's benefit.
If they don't get it spelled out to them - This is not in our interest, we would prefer to have a father around - then they can continue to justify themselves. And when I mean spelled out, I mean not whinged at but written to if needs be.
Sooo many affairs grow out of the distance that both partners allow to come between them. I don't believe that quality time works, I think if you want to stay close to someone you need to put in actual hours.
sundae what do you suggest? Leave the bastard? All well and good but by doing so I would be uprooting DC from a home they love, where they are surrounded by family and friends, take DS1 out of his school? As I couldn't keep up with the life they have now - we would be in a 2 bed flat in a new area and they would see even less of their dad?
Do you suggest I go and meet someone else to replace him? Are there many eligible men looking for woman with 3 children under 5? Who would look after my DC while I hunt for this mythical creature?
My DC adore their dad, I'm the one who misses out but I get happiness from them. DS told me yesterday that we are a funny family, when I asked why he told me its because we laugh all the time
I'm not actually sure what net-a-porter is?
Things might not be perfect, but they could be worse.
If I had my time again I wouldn't be in this situation. Dh works 90+ hrs a week through choice and it's dragging me down. We're away on holiday next week and I'm dreading it. We have spent so little time together in the last few years that we have nothing to talk about, 3 dcs of course but absolutely nothing else.
If I eventually get the courage to leave my life will be so much happier
I am a bit depressed by the number of people who are happy to swap net-a-porter orders for their DCs having a close and full relationship with their father while they are growing up.
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