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Am I being taken for a complete fool?

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 21:27

Long Story and Im not sure where to start.

H and I have been together for 18 years and have 3 DC'S together, the youngest DD is just over one.
Last summer DH told me he didnt love me anymore and wanted to leave, I begged him to stay and he agredd to "give it another go" but told me his feelings for me had changed and that he no longer felt that he was "in love" with me. Devastated, I spent six weeks trying to be the perfect wife while he was cold and unfeeling towards me.Then discovered that he had been phoning and texting his deputy at work (a woman in her early fifties).
He denied it was anything more than friendship, but things didnt add up, I did lots of digging, delved into his browser history and discovered that he had been planning a walking holiday with work colleagues and had been looking at posh hotels, Im not an idiot and I deduced he had been planning a mucky weekend away. He consistently denied anything more than friendship and continued working with her closely. I found text messages on his phone that suggested they were very familiar with each other. I put two and two together and realised that he had in fact spent a lot of time with this woman socially and had suffered from mentionitis for several months. I realised that their closeness had been well established before I gave birth and begged him to admit an affair, but he denied it.

We carried on, after Christmas but he was distant, I noticed that she didnt give him a birthday card which I thought suspicious as he claimed she was such a good friend, I guess it wasnt for my eyes. Eventually in April, he admitted an emotional affair, no more. I bought Not Just Friends and begged him to read it, he refused.
A few weeks later I asked him to work at our marriage otherwise leave, he said he wanted to make things work and I asked him to text the OW and tell her there would be no more contact outside work. He sent the text, then immediately became cold towards me. The next day, he left me and went to hers.c laiming that he was in love with her. Two hours later he was back saying it was a horrible mistake and he didnt want to lose us.
I foolishly gave him another chance.

Since then he has behaved as if nothing happened, refuses to discuss OW and claims he was never intimate with her,in the summer she texted him from work and actually started the text with "I know Im not supposed to text"
This weekend he was off work, his mobile rang three times then stopped, it was her, he looked really flustered and said she must have phoned by mistake.

Am I being taken for a complete fool here? My friends say he probably slept with her and its definitely not just friends. I know thats probably the case. The night he said he wanted to leave me, he texted her eight times and rang her Sad I feel so stressed and miserable

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FabbyChic · 02/11/2011 21:32

Why hasnt he changed his mobile number? Sorry that would be the first thing I would insist on, and if she then rang it you would have your answer.

This man is cheating whether it be emotionally or physically.

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lazarusb · 02/11/2011 21:33

It sounds suspicious to me. This has been going on a long time, no wonder you feel stressed and sad. I think the signs are blatantly there, whether he wants to admit it or not. What do you want to do? Ask him to leave his job and try to mend your relationship, try counselling...or do you want to put an end to this?
I don't think he's necessarily going to admit anything any time soon...Sad

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buzzskeleton · 02/11/2011 21:38

Do you think maybe when he walked out for those two hours, she told him he couldn't move in with her?

It doesn't sound like he wants to work on your marriage, it sounds like he just wants you to stfu and pretend nothing went (and is still going) on.

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 21:40

he changed his mobile number but has her stored in his phone and gave her his number, he claims she has to have it as he is her line manager and she needs to contact him. I asked him to change jobs and he refused, saying in this climate it was a ridiculous suggestion.

I have called unexpectedly into his work occasionally just lately and she hides in the office.I have called her on her mobile in the past and left messages asking if she is having an affair with my husband, she never replies. The night he left, I phoned her mobile and left a message that was a tad unpleasant, basically, but implying I knew about an affair, she has never called me back and denied it.

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Hissy · 02/11/2011 21:40

He changes his number TOMORROW, or you change the locks.

don't back down.

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 21:42

buzzskeleton-she is divorced so has nothing to lose but I suspect she told him to go home

we still have a good sex life, but he never tells me he loves me Sad

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Hissy · 02/11/2011 21:43

Stop ringing HER!

This is not her! its HIM! HE is the one that needs to tell her to back off. OR ELSE.

TBH, HE needs to tell HER to change jobs... and that he will write her a good reference.

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buzzskeleton · 02/11/2011 21:49

MS, so you think she wouldn't have him, and so you're the fall-back?

You need to grab some dignity here - stop sleeping with him, for a start.

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lampli · 02/11/2011 21:51

Don't ring her again. There is nothing to be achieved by contacting her.

The best thing to do is to ask him to leave. He isn't prepared to stop seeing her or work on the marriage, and he just wants to stay with you so that you can do his cooking and laundry while he continues the affair with this woman.

Pack his things, and tell him to get out. He must stop ALL contact with this woman if he is to work on your relationship, but from what you say it doesn't sound as though he wants to. Besides, why would you want to? You deserve better than this and he has been playing you for a fool.

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buzzskeleton · 02/11/2011 21:53

I'm not sure he can do that, Hissy. Wouldn't she have a case for unfair dismissal if he tries to get rid of her? He's in a very dodgy position, if she got arsy, having been so unprofessional (as well as an unfaithful arse).

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lampli · 02/11/2011 21:54

Stop shagging him and go for an STI check as soon as you can. Sorry to have to say this, but there is little doubt the affair is physical, no matter what he says.

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bubblegumpop · 02/11/2011 21:56

Yes he is taking you for a fool. He has shagged her, probably still is. She however is mature enough to not want a watster full time.

She is using him, regardless of who she hurts. He is just a tosser.

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 21:57

I would add that it is several months ago when I called her, it was around the time he left me.

When he came back he claimed that it was all a horrible mistake that he had been infatuated with her and that it never progressed beyond friendship.
He "accidentally "smashed up his contract phone 6 months ago and then got a pay as you go sim, so I have no way of checking if they are still in regular contact. The last message I was aware of, came in August

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lampli · 02/11/2011 21:58

I disagree with Hissy. HE needs to get another job. He is already on thin ice. Do you work, MugShot? I'd be tempted to contact his employer and explain what has been going on, as so many workplaces have policies on this sort of thing and they can't have been fully concentrating on their work. Unless you are the main earner that probably isn't a good idea, but nothing would burst their bubble quicker than their colleagues seeing them for what they really are. In fact their colleagues probably already know. It is hard to keep these things quiet in the workplace.

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 22:00

TBH, I think she really cares for him and when he was leaving me I think she probably thought they had a future together if Im honest, lets face it, he will have given her all the crap about me that would have made her think our marriage was over

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 22:04

I run my own business. I think that some of his work mates suspected already (he is a retail manager). They are always together, go out on secret shopping visits together,ash up together etc. Back in Jan, we all went to a work do and him a d her disappeared at the same time, I caught them deep in converstaion on the other side of the bar.

He did a charity event and she and a few others came along to support him, she looked really nervous around me and kept wringing her hands together

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lampli · 02/11/2011 22:04

Exactly, he has been lying to you and lying to her. If he wanted to save your marriage he would have been honest with you, disclosed everything, stopped seeing her and made his life an open book to you. He has done none of those. Please don't have sex with him again as it will just be demeaning for you and make things worse. Kicking him out is really your only option.

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Hissy · 02/11/2011 22:10

Mugshot? who gives a flying crap about what she thinks, cares etc etc? Stop focussing on her.

yes, yes, the unfair dismissal thing is potentially an issue, but the woman ought to fuck scuttle off back under her rock... but then again, if HE'S not decisively told her to step off....

he IS shagging her. If she is hiding everytime you go into the office and she rang him 3 times this weekend, there is still shit going on.

You need to TELL him to go, and that you won't have him back till he's passed an STI test (apparently they REALLY hurt.. Grin)

By not stamping on this, he's somehow taking this as your permission to carry on.

he's not facing up to what he's done, he's not making it up to you, he's not being honest and open with you, all of the ABSOLUTE ESSENTIALS required for a couple to survive an affair.

You need to get legal advice, look into what you'd be likely to get in a settlement. Perhaps THAT would shock this slinking cheat into sipping his trousers back up?

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 22:10

Thank you. I know deep down whats staring me in the face, I will say that I dont quite know how he would find the time to shag her as he never goes anywhere after work, but I guess there is lunchtime etc, and at the very least I need to face that fact that he HAS at some point

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Doha · 02/11/2011 22:11

Do you want a relationship now with this man?
A man who you clearly cannot trust
A man who says he no longer loves you
A man who tells lies
A man who is having either an emotional or physical affair..

This is no life for you OP. You and your DC deserve better from this twat, Difficult as it may be l would ask him to leave.
Time for you to get your self respect back..

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 22:13

Hissy-she rang three rings, rather than three seperate occasions IYSWIM. but it was the look on his face that said it all.

I know everything Im entitled to and sought legal advice earlier in the year, even going as far as starting divorce proceedings, but you are right, theres been no honesty, if he wanted it to work, he would admit the lot and look for another jobSad

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AnyFucker · 02/11/2011 22:14

Yes, love, you are being taken for a fool

They have had sex, they are still having sex

He is having sex with both of you

I don't know why he came back with his tail between his legs at first, but it is clear his heart (and dick) is not in your marriage

Find your self respect again and take control

Tell him to leave...and stay away this time

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MugShot · 02/11/2011 22:15

I think its worth pointing out that after he came back from being at hers, he claimed that he did in fact love me, but never says it unless I ask him, I dont beleive him.

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buzzskeleton · 02/11/2011 22:15

If they go off on secret shopping visits together and all that, they have opportunities. It may not be four-poster bed at the Hilton, more like a quick bunk-up in a lay-by. They'll make opportunities.

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lampli · 02/11/2011 22:17

They always find the time. I know this must be hard for you to accept but this has gone on for so long it has ground you down and ruined your self esteem. You must take back control of the situation. You are the one who calls the shots from now on. Get him out of your house, get that STI check (if she is in her fifties they probably didn't bother with condoms), get legal advice and tell him not to contact you until he has ceased all contact with this woman.

Pack a bag for him and just tell him to go. Better still, pack ALL his things and tell him to go. Don't see why you should do the packing tbh but let's face it, he won't and you need to show him you mean business.

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