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Pregnant, just separated, DH with OW - just venting out!

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isabellak · 31/08/2010 00:01

It's been the worst year of my life. It all began 6 months ago, when I discovered that DH was having an affair. He had just started working abroad (rotation work), and he was back home for the first time. He acted very weird, but it never crossed my mind what was going on. We have a 3yo son. Anyway, first I found a message in his phone by accident: phone happened to be next to me when text came in and I just saw a woman's name and happy "hello". Didn't give it much thought until that night we had awful sex and I started thinking about his behaviour of the last weeks. Went to check his phone and found a lot of messages, although nothing conclusive. Confronted him and he denied it, of course. He went away again, and then a few days later (again by accident, honestly), I found some emails in my computer (it used to be his, so his emails settings were still there). The emails were very graphic and detailed. Called him and confronted him with it. He couldn't deny it anymore and broke down, saying he was sorry and didn't want to lose his family over what had happened. We agreed to talk when he was back. I'm a foreigner, so after a few days at home I couldn't resist and decided to go back to my parents until he got back to try and get some space. Trip was awful cause I didn't want to tell anyone (just told my mum) so I had to keep a happy face. While I abroad, I found out I was pregnant (such an irony, since we had been trying for almost 2 years with no results). I had told him he needed to leave his job, of course. When we both got back he had a very cocky attitude and didn't want to comply with any of the conditions I had set out. Stupidily, I gave in, and the only thing he agreed to was for us to go to Relate, but then we were placed in waiting list. Then I found out that while I was away he had continued his affair, even though he had said he had finished it. Big row, but after a week of not talking I couldn't take it and we decided to try again - he promised it was over now. Just before he went away again I found out he was still contacting her. Another row. When he left things werent clear. We argued a lot over the phone, I called OW and she said it was over, so I believed it (he also insisted it was over). Things seemed brighter. Next time he was home we went to Relate. I thought it was helping, plus I had also started CBT since being diagnosed with depression. We had lovely time, and I told him I'd stop moaning about his job for at least a year, and then we'd see. I also told him I would not tolerate something like what had happened again. He agreed. He left again, I had my mum over to keep me company, and things seemed ok. Mum left just as he got back, and then, yes, you guessed it, I found out he was back with her again. I've had enough, so I sent him to guest bedroom and we spent that month living "separated under the same roof". It was ok at times, hell at others. He can't give a proper explanation, and the problem is that he just seems to "want it all" - he actually tried to blame me for having found out, because "she knows (he) wouldn't leave us for her", and it's nothing important. So, if it's not important, why the hell does it keep happening??? He just turned 42, so I guess it's just a big middle age crisis, but I can't handle it anymore. I'm now 6 months pregnant, with a very demanding toddler (at least he's used to daddy coming-and-going), and away from family. I have the support of his family (SIL and MIL), who are, understandably, very upset with him. My son is the only grandchild on his side, so MIL is terrified I'll take him (and the baby) away. I've reassured her I'd never take them away from her (as in preventing her from seeing them), but that is more than likely I'll move somewhere else next year. I've decided to have my baby here, my parents will come for Christmas (at least he wont be around then), and then we'll see what happens next year. I'm aware I can't make any decisions just now, but this "waiting game" is exhausting at times. My friends and family are very supportive (via email and phone - no friends around here), and I know things will be ok in the end (no financial worries, thankfully - have seen lawyer already and I'm protected), but it's very frustrating just now. I just don't know what's wrong with him, and since we're rubbish at communicating (Relate is now out of the question), I don't really know what he's thinking. Everybody agrees he needs to grow up, and I'm just sad things have turned out this way. When I first found out I was aware our relationship wasn't at its best (which can explain why it happened, even if nothing justifies it), and that's why I gave in so much and was trying to work things out. But the fact that he kept going back to her again and again, and doesn't want to leave his job (which he could easily do, or at least take a break - which I know we could afford), I just can't play his game anymore. sigh That's it, really. As the subject says, I needed to vent!

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Clary · 31/08/2010 00:10

Yes I agree I didn't want to read and then not post, tho I don't have any very helpful advice either.

But keep posting whatever you want to say.

Others on here will have helpful and practical advice.

I would suggest it would be nice for you if you had some friends locally, esp if you plan to stay where you are for a while.

Is there no-one living nearby with small children? Or a toddler group you could go to and make a few contacts? It often helps just to chat, even to a relative stranger.

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Clary · 31/08/2010 00:10

Sorry meant also to say really sorry that you are going through this - it must be so very difficult, esp being so far from family.

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isabellak · 31/08/2010 00:21

Thanks for the comments. Not really looking for advice, but it's great to have some sympathy.

I've been living here now for over a year, I do know a lot of people, but no-one I can consider a good friend. But I don't just stay at home, we go to the park, out to toddlers groups, etc. It's just a bit hard sometimes to keep the "happy face", but since I'm not close to the other mums, I don't feel like telling them what's going on either. I guess later on I'll tell them (once I decide what I'll do), but not for now.

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diddl · 31/08/2010 06:50

How absolutely bloody awful for you.

Well, you gave it a try & tbh I admire you for that because for me he would have been out on his sorry arse!

Trying not to sound too horrible when I say this, but try not to rely too much on MIL & SIL for support.

I don´t know them, but they are probably only thinking of themselves and will more than likely start to see things from his POV.

Are all your friends and family abroad & would you be wanting to go back there?

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isabellak · 31/08/2010 08:41

Still not sure what I'll do. I don't think I'd go back to my country, I can't see myself back there full time, but I may spend a longish spell with my family there next year, while I try and decide what to do with my life.

Thankfully SIL is very objective and has managed to make MIL see things from my perspective. I know MIL eventually will manage to forgive her son more easily, but I know SIL understands better (she herself has gone thru bad crisis in her own marriage). Still, I know I can't make decisions just based on what they think.

I have good friends in different parts of the country and in Europe (basically, everywhere but here!), so that's also encouraging as to my choices for later.

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GirlofCadiz · 31/08/2010 09:26

Even though he has done this to you and is acting like a dick he can stop you from moving out of the country with the children when you divorce.

I found out that if DH and I divorce here in the UK (where are kids were born) I have no right to move back to the USA with them unless he gives permission as their father for me to take them out of the country.

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Mumfun · 31/08/2010 10:17

Sorry you find yourself in this situation.

Do take your own legal advice as I have been told differently from GirlofCadiz that I can take my children out of this country if we divorce. It would be expensive and involve a legal case but it could be done.

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SolidGoldBrass · 31/08/2010 10:23

You may find it easier to make new friends now less of your energy is being wasted on trying to 'make' this man love you and remain in a monogamous relationship with you.
He clearly wanted to have both relationships - you for housework and childraising and 'official' partner status and the OW for lovesexnromance. There's no reason why you should have been expected to put up with that - your feelings matter just as much as his do.
I agree with what others have said, though, get your own lawyer. THis man has already demonstrated that he considers you a bit irrelevant, certainly much less important than his own wishes, so you can't trust him to be fair to you in the divorce.

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isabellak · 31/08/2010 10:54

I am aware about the situation of taking children out of the country, but I believe (hope, too) that's something we could work out. He still doesn't know I've been to see the lawyer (nor his family), and I'll keep it like that for the time being.

I'm not trying to defend him, but at least he's been so far very cooperative (my friends say that's because he still doesn't believe that I'll leave), so I hope things won't get nasty, but I do keep my guard up, just in case. Yes, I think his idea was to have his cake and eat it, but I managed to mess it up for him.

It's all very sad, because I know he usually is a good man, but something has gone funny in his head, obviously, but I hope one day he'll reconsider for his own good (not that I expect reconciliation, but at least that he'll get to see that what he's done is wrong).

Thanks for all your comments!

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lucky1979 · 31/08/2010 10:54

Not sure where your home country is, but would you consider going back there to have the baby? You'll need the support around you of family and friends and you would find it much easier to decide what to do from there. From a practical point of view, if you have the baby in your home country you're in a much stronger position to chose what you want to do, you could stay there for a protracted period, while there is a possibility that if you stay here and have the baby you won't be able to go back to stay without your H's consent.

If he's that cocky about the affair and not wanting to work on things he might just turn unpleasant once push comes to shove on the divorce.

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lucky1979 · 31/08/2010 10:57

Just seen your update, think your friends are excalty right. He's proved over and over again he'll say what you want to hear and then do exactly what he wants to do anyway - if you're not letting him do what he wants and he realises you're serious he might become really obstructive.

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tribpot · 31/08/2010 11:04

Very sorry to read about what you've been through. I'm not sure I've missed it in your opening post (which is a bit hard to read) - where is your H living now?

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skidoodly · 31/08/2010 11:13

Of course you can make decisions now. Why on earth not?

This limbo is bad for you, bad for the baby you're carrying, and bad for your son

Start making your plans and carry them out. These plans should not include him. If he wants to make amends he'll figure out a way. You don't need to make it easy for him. Make things easy for you instead.

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mummytime · 31/08/2010 11:39

Do you have anyone, not part of his family, that you could trust to leave documents with? IF not is there someone you could post things to?

As has been advised before, I would suggest you get photocopies of bank statements, savings accounts, pensions etc. as well as passports and birth certificates etc. Then get these stored with the person you can trust.

Just incase things turn nasty when money is discussed.

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isabellak · 31/08/2010 11:46

Situation in home country is not great at the moment, and to be honest I wouldn't like to have baby there. Although, me and my son are going there next week for almost a month, and then we're coming back on the final week when I'm allowed to travel. So I'm aware there's a slight risk I might not be able to come back Wink, but it's a calculated one. However, my first instinct was to have baby here, and somehow I feel I'll be happier with things going according to plan.

My mum will be here for the birth and then my dad and one of my sisters will be here for a few weeks. I'd like to wait for baby to have first sets of immunisations and checks and all that here, while also sorting out passports and the like (I've got dual citizenship now, so it makes things easier). Then we'll see.

As to making decisions now, well, it's a tricky one, because mentally and emotionally I'm absolutely shattered, and tbh, I don't feel myself capable of thinking straight in the long run, so I'm waiting to have baby to start taking antidepressants, so that I can see things more clearly.

I am educated and well prepared, but I haven't had a "real" job for the last 7 years (we used to travel a lot because of his job, so I only had temp jobs), so I really need to think things through in order to make the best decision for myself and my children (he's out of the equation as far as I'm concerned).

tribpot, sorry if first post was too long and confusing - H is abroad at the moment (he does rotations of 4 weeks there/4 weeks here), but he's still living in the house, in the guest bedroom. We've joked that we're better housemates than ever were as H & W, so things haven't been TOO weird yet, but I'm afraid it could/will change eventually. Next time he's home we'll see less of him, though, because of my own travel arrangements, and tbh, at least he does give me a hand with our son when he's around.

I guess I still want to maintain a bit of a "rosy" view of things, but thanks for your comments about keeping my guard up and prepare for a turn for the worst once things start to unroll.

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LadyLapsang · 31/08/2010 22:32

Sorry to hear about your situation.

Don't know if you have already told your midwife about your husband's infidelity and been checked for sexually transmitted infections, but if you haven't do get that checked out now so your health / health of your unborn baby is taken care of.

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isabellak · 31/08/2010 22:43

Yes, thanks for that last comment.

I've already have checked myself, and thankfully everything is ok. I told him he also needed to get checked but he refused. I know I'm clear, and he hasn't touched me for months now, so if he's caught anything lately it'll be his problem!

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SolidGoldBrass · 31/08/2010 23:17

Isabelle, make sure you know the law WRT what you are entitled to. Because your H may well be all nice while he is getting what he wants (lovesexromance with his new woman and bed space and a cooked meal at yours) but it's possible that he will start getting dodgy and dishonest when it comes down to the practicalities ie that he has to deal with the fact that he doesn't just get to do what he wants, he has to contribute financially to the upbringing of his DC and that you are not just going to roll over and obey. If you know what your position is then you won't fall for the 'let's sort it all out amicably' line when what he means by that is 'Let me fuck you over again you irrelevant-to-my-happiness woman'. Of course, the flipside of this is if you know your rights and your H says, I want to be amicable about this and proceeds to offer over and above what would be the court-ordered minimum, then you can feel a little more assured that he's a decent man and a decent father, just not the right partner for you.

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isabellak · 07/09/2010 04:30

At parents' house now. Feels very weird, though, so I don't know if I could handle a longer stay here in the future (we'll be here for the next 3 weeks).
Contact with H is now only via email because of time difference, and maybe is better that way, at least for the time being.
I like SolidGoldBrass comment that hopefully it'll turn out to be that he'll support us ok, showing that he can be a decent man, just not the right one for me.

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