I think Emma may be among us

(75 Posts)
PseudoBadger Thu 01-Nov-12 07:29:02

<Looks around>

She's meal planning! Keeping a record of all outgoings!

Next she'll be on S&B looking for a dress for a posh London wedding....

MrsCampbellBlack Thu 01-Nov-12 07:31:05

Or in relationships contemplating a fling at said wedding

R4 Thu 01-Nov-12 08:20:19

She could fill the relationships board all on her own.
Ex being a pain
BIL being a pain (seing as we are 'doing' austerity, you get two for the price of one!)
Interfering mother
aunt taking sides against her
uncle who nearly killed her
etc etc

She should definitely be on behaviour/development too. Her kids are going to be nightnmares when they grow up.

R4 Thu 01-Nov-12 08:26:33

D'oh! I've just realised. You know all this business about being flat broke and fish paste sandwiches ...
Surely Ed could go out trapping and poaching? There's a whole larder-full of countryside on their doorstep. It just proves that TA is no longer an everyday tale of country folk.sad

zillyzilly Thu 01-Nov-12 08:28:18

Certainly some interesting Relationships and Parenting ishoos. grin

Waswondering Thu 01-Nov-12 21:37:12

The sad fact is I've been fretting about her this evening. I mean, someone needs to take the girl in hand, find out what her meagre weekly food budget is and help her plan something accordingly.

Surely with Tom and Brenda's meals she and Ed could volunteer to be a family tasing panel (ok, not the meatballs, too salty!) - but that would be a couple of meals.

She needs to find out if any of the farm shops are throwing stuff out ... and buy/cook/freeze.

But most importantly - she needs her mum. Where is Susan?! Her dad seems to be sliding the odd £10 but where's Susan just now?

Also thought tonight that Ed really, really needs to ask her about what gems she's picked up from the online parenting forums she visits ... wink

PseudoBadger Thu 01-Nov-12 21:40:36

Emma is too proud to tell her parents (or anyone) how bad things are. She's made her bed, chose Ed and now has to lie on him. Or something like that...

Waswondering Thu 01-Nov-12 21:44:28

Agree PB - hence Ed needs to ask her what she's gained from us grin

We'd sort her out!

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 04-Nov-12 10:31:39

LOL at lying on Ed.
grin at EmmurTheMumsnettur

GrendelsMum Mon 05-Nov-12 21:52:11

We're loving Emma, Ed, Nick, Will, George and Keira in this house at the moment.

DH and I have devoted many hours to an appraisal of who is likely to be the better cook, and we reckon that Nick would win hands down.

lalalonglegs Tue 06-Nov-12 12:54:38

I was just about to start a thread about Emma and Will but thought I would hijack this one instead grin?

So why are they so flaming poor? Ed has his business which seems to be doing ok. Emma works for Ruth and David, does shifts in the Bull and has maintenance from Will. They also live in a cottage that has subsidised rent. So where have all the money problems come from? GrendelsMum? Anyone?

nb: I realise that this is the scriptwriters' clumsy attempt to get on board the working poor trend but has there been any explanation about why they are suddenly reduced to going without meals and unable to pay bills?

I'm just waiting for Nic to be pregnant. She isn't yet is she?

AIBU to be cross that my ex's wife (who is also my common law sil) is up the duff. Why haven't they thought about MY SON?'

Songbird Tue 06-Nov-12 13:21:52

I made a massive batch of soup yesterday for about £1. And that's supermarket veg! She's so irritating it's unbelievable. I've never bought fish paste - far too expensive! Beans are cheap as, tinny toms are cheap as, the SWs are clearly moneyed-up Waitrose shoppers who think 'ooh fish paste, that must be what poor people eat'. Really shouldn't care but angry

PseudoBadger Tue 06-Nov-12 14:24:42

lala I think they were doing ok until Mike had to cut the price of milk?

lljkk Tue 06-Nov-12 14:28:40

Ed's had a big drop in income that precipitated this crisis.
Emma's pride is an obstacle because she won't bargain hunt the some of us would (wouldn't take herself to a jumble sale where she might be recognised, or a foodbank, for instance). Also thinks that kids must have treats for half term, etc.
DH is just waiting for them to pursue PayDay loans or get in with a Loanshark.

BeaLola Tue 06-Nov-12 14:38:08

I find Emma a pain in the bum although I felt a tad sympathetic for her when Ed told her she was pants at managing money ....... she should be grateful she ended up with ED & not the equally tedious Will.

Just wondering where they are going to take story to ............. Will seeking custody of George ??? Ed & Emma splitting up ???

DowagersHump Tue 06-Nov-12 14:50:24

I want to know why George sounds like he's 3. I didn't realise he was supposed to be 7. Haven't the SWs ever met any 7YOs? Then again Ruaaarhi was just the same - sounded 3 until he went to school and then came back 12.

GrendelsMum Tue 06-Nov-12 17:40:33

I was trying to explain this plot to a colleague, and got stuck on the bit where I said 'so Will is a gamekeeper and Nick is a SAHM with two kids and they have plenty of money and Ed is a small-scale dairy farmer and Emma does a few hours cleaning and the rest of the time looking after Keira, and they are totally skint'.

I know that Will had his legacy, but really, how come Will and Nick are doing nicely thank you when Ed and Emma are going without meals?

PseudoBadger Tue 06-Nov-12 18:27:54

Will also has rental income.

lalalonglegs Tue 06-Nov-12 20:14:34

But... but doesn't Ed manage the cattle business on behalf of Oliver and doesn't he sell his milk to a dairy cooperative that Mike (or possibly Neil) has some hand in? So why would the drop in dairy prices (which I think most of the big dairy buyers such as supermarket suppliers dropped because of toxic publicity) have such an impact?

PseudoBadger Tue 06-Nov-12 20:38:18

I'm pretty certain he has a financial interest in the herd, with Oliver and maybe Mike too?

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 06-Nov-12 22:41:29

OH but Ed was right, they have to FIGHT to be together
I don't think nic wants any more (though I wouldn't put it past Will to be secretly tracking her cycle/DPO etc and trying his luck)
He is creepy.
Haven't heard Emma mention shifts in the Bull - that's nic isn't it?

PseudoBadger Wed 07-Nov-12 05:56:08

Nicand Will agreed a while ago to try for another. Emma would love some shifts in the Bull, but alas...

kim147 Thu 08-Nov-12 22:10:07

I was in tears today when I heard last night's episode. I can relate to what she was talking about with money and not eating enough food. The Archers has got to me before but this is really getting to me.

Tommy Fri 09-Nov-12 22:53:13

I don't really understand why Nic and Will having George an extra night will help Emma 'n' Ed? confused
what difference will that make?

PseudoBadger Sat 10-Nov-12 06:55:21

They don't have to feed him.

MrsCampbellBlack Sat 10-Nov-12 07:04:28

Yeap - the craziest thing is that Ednemmur don't seem to be claiming any benefits when surely they'd be entitled to some.

Will is probably on a good wage and gets 'tips' and his house is free and gets the rental income from the about to be dumped Tom.

lljkk Sat 10-Nov-12 10:17:20

Will & Nic have free housing, too, the GameKeeper's cottage.
Nic probably has some maintenance from Andrew.
Also having George another night means W+N can treat George to a few nice things (even just a DVD or take-away pizza) so that Emma feels less guilty that she can't.

Tommy Sat 10-Nov-12 13:08:45

fair enough
the poverty thing does seem to have appeared out of no-where though doesn't it?

zillyzilly Sat 10-Nov-12 13:52:36

I imagine they feel they have to 'do' the recession.

MrsCampbellBlack Sat 10-Nov-12 16:16:56

Ednemmur did a very bad thing and they will have to be punished

GrendelsMum Sun 11-Nov-12 17:16:42

A new question - how much do you think Tom and Helen get paid? Does anyone really see any of the Bridge Farm businesses bringing in any profit whatsoever?

I reckon that Brenda is supporting Tom's fantasy sausage empire entirely.

PseudoBadger Sun 11-Nov-12 17:49:20

How about - where is Helen?

heronsfly Mon 12-Nov-12 07:20:29

i cant understand why she never mentions family tax credits,they must be entitled if they are on that low a wage.

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 12-Nov-12 19:38:53

vg question badger

kim147 Tue 13-Nov-12 20:31:05

Apparently they learn something soon - maybe about benefits (according to Vanessa Winterburn on the PM program)

GrendelsMum Tue 13-Nov-12 22:23:58

I reckon that they've never paid any taxes and they're going to be slapped with a massive tax bill, and it will be the last straw.

And then nice Ed will run off with nice Nick.

PseudoBadger Tue 13-Nov-12 22:38:31

Maybe they'll get a tax rebate grin

GrendelsMum Tue 13-Nov-12 22:44:11

No. I want them to eat the guinea pig.

Realistically, I bet you're right and they'll go to the CAB and be talked through the benefits available to them.

PseudoBadger Tue 13-Nov-12 22:52:30

And then at the end: "If you've been affected by any of the issues raised you can call the Radio 4 action line on....."

Welovecouscous Tue 13-Nov-12 22:55:13

I think Emma is going to start shoplifting sad

SW don't do it!

2LO Wed 14-Nov-12 08:38:10

Surely she won't steal from the village shop, especially while her own mum in on the till shock

Will she speak to CAB or I've-been-there-Nic? The SW won't want to spoil their years of anticipated fraternal warring but it might make it more interesting if the womenfolk pally up. But I still can't believe that a Horrobin/Grundy household doesn't know about the benefits that they can claim

Do you like my birthday name-change. <twirls>

PseudoBadger Wed 14-Nov-12 11:54:56

Very nice smile

Screaminabdabs Wed 14-Nov-12 11:57:17

Oh I prefer the crime idea to being lectured on benefits. After all she has bad blood.

Also why isn't irritating Emmur sucking it up and going back to do a bit more work, she cut her hours recently didn't she. Don't get me started on annoying Will. He always overreacts!

DowagersHump Wed 14-Nov-12 14:24:22

There must be loads of people she could ask for more hours of cleaning work from - Lillian, Linda (her b&b), the Bull, Jenny-darling, Caroline and Oliver (where is Caroline incidentally and whatever happened to their fostering exploits?)

champagnesupernova Wed 14-Nov-12 14:40:39

2L0 GREAT name change grin

GrendelsMum Wed 14-Nov-12 18:41:36

I don't think Emma actually wants to do any more work. Just compare her attitude to Ed's.

Emma is her mother's daughter as far as downright snobbishness goes, and she doesn't want to fit with the Grundy work ethic and poor Clarrie going down to the JobCentre and scraping around for work. (Remember that - now that was sad.)

GrendelsMum Wed 14-Nov-12 18:42:14

Alternatively, maybe Emma and Ed have fed Helen to George.

GrendelsMum Wed 14-Nov-12 19:58:19

Sorry to say I shed a small tear for Ed when he was given the steak and kidney pie today.

No tears for Emma.

choccyp1g Thu 15-Nov-12 10:49:09

And how far in advance did you JUST KNOW that Susan was going to meet Emma at the Foodbank? I guessed that was coming the first time they mentioned collecting for it.

I think they are not claiming any benefits, today when Emma said she had NO MONEY, Ed was talking about when the next milk cheque arrives, not "what about the tax credits coming in this week".

HearMyRoar Thu 15-Nov-12 11:40:24

I thought Emma suggested to Ed she got more work but he went all 1950s about how he loves seeing her playing with the kids and can't bare for anyone else to look after them as he is the Man and so must Provide For The Family hmm

Pallindrome Thu 15-Nov-12 18:05:25

Something occurred to me today, am I correct in thinking that George and Keira are not only siblings but cousins too? As they have Emma for a Mum but a Grundy brother each for a Dad surely that makes them siblings as well as cousins? Been bothering me all day trying to compute the family relationship . . .

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 15-Nov-12 18:06:01

Who is Emma?

PseudoBadger Thu 15-Nov-12 18:07:02

Do you listen to The Archers?

MrsCampbellBlack Thu 15-Nov-12 18:10:20

I actually felt a bit sorry for emmur last night until she moaned about nic and will not being hard up. Come on love -you shagged your husband's brother, told him that his child wasn't his and planned to run off with said child so will would never see him again.

And breathe.

Not sure how much spare cash susan and neil have though . . . I reckon emmur will be back living with her parents by christmas

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 15-Nov-12 18:13:14

No. It seems if I did I wouldn't have asked.wink

I thought it was Emma Bunton or summat.

<closes the door quietly and leaves the middle aged to it >

MrsCampbellBlack Thu 15-Nov-12 18:18:40

Yes because Emma Bunton is so big with the younger generation wink

GrendelsMum Thu 15-Nov-12 18:37:28

Poor Emma Bunton, heading down to the food bank and running into her mother...

DowagersHump Thu 15-Nov-12 20:53:53

I reckon that if Emma Bunton sold that massive flat she has in Hampstead, she wouldn't need to go to the food bank wink

DorsetKnob Thu 15-Nov-12 21:00:07

Do they not claim any TC or WTC?

Gamekeepering is quite a well paid job and in this case he doesn't have to pay rent and his vehicle will be provided.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 15-Nov-12 23:36:17

I'm almost 30 young! hmm

Ed isn't a gamekeeper, that's Will. ed is in dairy farming and milk delivery, and has lost money there.

Don't think they are claiming any benefits tho


GrendelsMum Fri 16-Nov-12 08:45:18

All the young women in Ambridge (except Alice and Fallon - and Helen if she's still around) are driving me up the wall at the moment. Why do they have so little career ambition? WTF is Kirsty doing, faffing around in Jaxx's Caff? Why can't Emma do anything other than clean Ruth's house for a couple of hours? WTF does Brenda think she's doing, making coffee for Matt and Lilian?

Okay, I'm also going to make an exception for Hayley, except she's clearly going to to be given the chop shortly.

DorsetKnob Fri 16-Nov-12 18:39:05

Yes I know that Will is the Gamekeeper and not Ed, was answering a question about why Will has more money than Ed has.

Sadly know about the reality of dairying, the lovely man who lives across the road has lost two of his jobs recently as both farms he works for have sold their herd.

DowagersHump Fri 16-Nov-12 19:08:03

Don't forget Pip Grendel!

But generally I agree - they are drifting about.

GrendelsMum Fri 16-Nov-12 19:25:11

No, Pip's clearly going to marry Spencer and go and live on a farm conveniently located over the hill, leaving the way clear for Josh to run Brookfields and Pip just to pop back when they need her for plot purposes.

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 16-Nov-12 19:52:02

I keep thinking that Brenda's going to get upduffed
She gave up her big career chance cos the commute was too hard.
where is your spine woman?!

DowagersHump Fri 16-Nov-12 19:57:26

Brenda has entirely stuffed up her life really - she has no career and she's put her entire life on hold for a knobhead who uses her like a career counsellor

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 16-Nov-12 20:03:09

Brenda is sooo going to dump Tom and get a proper job in the big city.

R4 Fri 16-Nov-12 21:08:30

I hope that Brenda doesn't get upduffed. I'm no great fan of Brenda but she doesn't deserve to be stuck with Tom. No-one deserves to be stuck with Tom! With the exception, maybe, of the equally obnoxious Leonie. Talking of whom, what has happened to her 'career'? Who gets extended compassionate leave because an ex-boyfriend broke his leg?hmm
I can sympathise with Brenda giving up the commute from Ambridge to (?was it) Nottingham. It is over an hour each way and the M42 past the NEC is hell at any time of day. She should have relocated and dumped Tom while she was at it
I agree with an earlier comment that I cannot believe that Bridge Farm can support four adults.

GrendelsMum Fri 16-Nov-12 21:19:31

Clearly Leonie's employers are delighted to get rid of her for a few weeks!

I think Brenda might get upduffed and then suffer PND and then Tom might have to think about something other than sausage-based ready meals.

Anyway, no-one has even attempted to explain to DrinkFeck who Emma is, so here goes:

She is a uniquely irritating young woman on the Archers who is apparently irrisistable to men, having married one man (Will), slept with his brother (Ed) on her hen night, getting pregnant by Will but telling Will the baby (now 7 year old George) was Ed's, driving Ed to become a homeless heroin addict (now cured), before he returned and suggested that she, Ed and George ran off to France to stop any pesky concerns about access arrangements. Did I mention that Ed had previously nearly killed her by drink driving? Also that Emma has only recently seen her uncle try to burn down the farmyard in which her family lives. Also that her mother was sentenced to prison after her other uncle held up the village post-office and then went on the run, persuading the mother to conceal him. Emma doesn't much like Nic, Will's new partner, due to Nic's most exciting storyline being the time she went to a talk on using food leftovers at the WI with Will and Ed's mother.

ppeatfruit Sat 17-Nov-12 15:17:22

Are Hellinnn and the baby in a cupboard ? Which is the way all soap S.Ws deal with babies, not adults usually grin

Oh fgs didn't we all know that Susan and Neil would come to the rescue of Emmur and Ed? Why did it take sooo long (yawn)

PseudoBadger Sat 17-Nov-12 15:29:37

Wasn't Brenda commuting to Coventry?

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