Does anybody else find Jane Garvey's hectoring, impatient tone on Woman's Hour really annoying?

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I was so pleased that yesterday she had to read out a listener's comment that she (Garvey) had been rude to Dionne Warwick.

I think she often has an unfortunate manner, cutting people off mid-flow, summarising what she thinks they're going to say rather than listening to them say it.

She also practically vomits every time she has to mention SAHMs angry.

Salbertina Tue 23-Oct-12 14:34:49

I actually was going to post about her treatment of today's interviewee re horrendous DV- her eyes were gauged out angry she wad asked more than once why she stayed and then Jane said "I've heard enough, i cant hear any more!"

That sounds appalling! Haven't listened to today's yet - going to catch the podcast later.

madda Tue 23-Oct-12 16:25:49

i Missed it earlier today, but I have noticed that she is rather obsessed with making sure facts are correct, if an interviewee dares to talk about something slightly off script, they are grilled and quizzed over whether they are sure of their facts

it kind of ruins the flow of the conversation, and makes her sound domineering

SrirachaGhoul Tue 23-Oct-12 16:27:37

She is a bit abrupt sometimes. Jenny Murray is lovely, though smile.

Lottapianos Tue 23-Oct-12 16:28:54

'she wad asked more than once why she stayed and then Jane said "I've heard enough, i cant hear any more!" '

Flippin' heck - and this was on Women's Hour?! confused Sounds like what you would expect to hear from John Humphrys!

Salbertina Tue 23-Oct-12 16:36:14

My thoughts exactly. Poor woman

SinisterBuggyMonth Wed 24-Oct-12 17:52:31

Vanessa Felts interviewed the same lady on Monday, the detail was very graphic. I dont know if there were complaints to radio 2 so radio 4 censored the interview?

I do get fed up with her and JM shuffling papers when a guest is speaking, v rude.

Salbertina Wed 24-Oct-12 18:56:46

Could be but sounded live. I just think she handled it incredibly insensitively. Rather disappointing from Woman's Hour.

I agree - insensitive and disappointing. Particularly at a time when the BBC is in so much hot water re 'not wanting to hear' what victims have to say sad.

Also on Tuesday's WH - the lady being impatiently interviewed by Garvey about her new book on home smoking as a method of preserving food. JG could hardly contain her contempt for what this seemingly lovely lady was doing, sneering at her specialist equipment and feigning sheer horror at the cost of it. What is her problem exactly? She does this every time she speaks to anyone who cherishes anything at all to do with the domestic arena angry.

Jenny Murray can be a bit dour at times but at least she listens to people, and appears to respect their views/expertise.

R4 Wed 24-Oct-12 21:22:11

She does this every time she speaks to anyone who cherishes anything at all to do with the domestic arena

It's not only the domestic arena. She was going on the other day and saying (I paraphrase) "Nothing is worth getting that het up about; we shouldn't take anything that seriously. I'm going to be all laid-back and blasé, in that knowing way that ex-Radio5 presenters adopt".
I thought "Yeah, right. You get to be a presenter on national radio by not fighting tooth and nail for every opportunity, by not clawing your way to the top?hmm Pull the other one."

Salbertina Wed 24-Oct-12 21:35:34

Bet she's lurking here somewhere! Come on out, Jane, wherever (whoever) you are!

GrendelsMum Wed 24-Oct-12 22:45:03

You know what drives me mad? It's the way that one of the presenters (don't know which) claims that any food you mention gives you wind. Someone can talk about the most innocuous food on the planet and this presenter will be saying in a sickly-sweet voice, 'but of course it does have well-known effects on the bowels, doesn't it?'

difficultpickle Wed 24-Oct-12 22:49:02

She was better on Radio 5 with Peter Allen who always had a bon mot when she went too far.

peasabovesticks Wed 24-Oct-12 22:54:46

The interview with the lady who was the victim of dv was awful. She was particularly clumsy when dealing with the issue of why the lady stayed in the relationship once she realised her partner was violent.
She was also huffing and puffing a lot during the fish smoking item. It's not something I could be bothered to do but the interviewee was trying to promote artisan food and was enthusiastic and knowledgeable. Jane Garvey talked to her as if she was nuts for wanting to do anything other than stick a tesco ready meal in the microwave.

Peas I couldn't agree more! She's so bloody superior & dismissive. You could sense fish-smoking lady becoming smaller & quieter as the item progressed, JG bullied her so much angry.

R4 I also agree heartily with you wink.

A couple of weeks ago there was a feature on women who had changed their careers in a very definite and sometimes surprising way. One woman's previous career had been in financial management, and JG assured her that (again, paraphrasing) 'nobody would want talk to her about that because it's so boring'!! angry !angry ! angry !

NetworkGuy Sat 27-Oct-12 18:51:54

Have to admit am often asleep (as I sometimes get to bed around 07:00) when WH is on, so have not heard these bits (huffing and puffing), but think it would be worth sending your comments in to 'Feedback'. If a number of people made similar points, they would likely take it up.

I had the impression Fi Glover often had an 'off' tone with interviewees (when I used to listen to 'Saturday Live' - she helped me stop listening!), and it may, as R4 suggests, be part of 'getting to the top' (or at least onto national radio such as R5) and makes them a bit more sneery, impatient, etc.

I don't think it would apply to all that many women on R4, because they've mostly not been on R5, so people like Winifred Robinson have grown with R4 and don't have the same characteristics (was going to say drive, ego, etc, but it's probably not true - bet they have all had to fight stiff competition to get to the positions they're now in).

QuickLookBusy Sat 27-Oct-12 18:59:55

Isn't this all a bit sexist?

Where are the threads castigating men interviewers for having an "off tone" or "hectoring tone"?
John Humphries, Jeremy Paxton for example. They seem to be praised for their directness.

I will say I didn't hear he interview with the DV victim so I can't comment on that but I usually find Jane Garvey a very intelligent interviewer.

GrendelsMum Sat 27-Oct-12 19:07:27

IIRC, a few months back we shared in some detail our opinions of male interviewers (principally on the Today programme) who were keener to show off their own power than get any actual information from their interviewees, with the Today programme being memorably described as 'willy waggling' by someone. We're quite happy to moan about any radio presenter in this topic!

VenusandJuno Sat 27-Oct-12 19:07:56

No, I like her and respect her way of interviewing. I find it refreshing and not just "yes, you're great aren't you" style of interviewing. I think she is quite brave in some situations: the same style of questioning could be seen as rude in other situations.

I love prefer Jenny M and wish she was my mum but I love woman's hour anyhow cos I'm a bit sad

No: she's different and that's good as far as I'm concerned.

NetworkGuy Sat 27-Oct-12 20:02:26

"They seem to be praised for their directness."

I'd never praise either of them. Paxton (Paxman, surely!) has been mocked for repeating questions over and over (perhaps it was on HIGNFY not MN).

Humphries jumps in when interviewing and makes himself look foolish in so doing. Not letting an interviewee finish a sentence doesn't score any points with me... it's plain rude.

EdgarAllanPond Sat 27-Oct-12 20:10:02

i don't know which one it was, but there was one that was very sneery towards a woman who had lactated in order to feed an adoptive baby - this involved pumping 4 hours round the clock before the baby was even there - pretty hard work - she challenged her with something like 'well, it's not that important is it ..?'

the woman was taken aback, but said somethinglike it had taken her 7 years to get a baby, of failed IVF, etc etc etc and the effort to her was more than worth it.

that said they have very tight time slots to fill and they do need to direct flow an get the questions asked that the public want asking.

EdgarAllanPond Sat 27-Oct-12 20:11:16

seeing as i now have a womans Hour thread to complain on - they had two articles about male carers - good, interesting articles - but what the fuck were they doing on WOMANS HOUR ??

EdgarAllanPond Sat 27-Oct-12 20:12:44

Justine has been on WH, she could probably tell us what it is like

CuttedUpPear Sat 27-Oct-12 20:15:08

I can't stand Jane Garvey's sneering superior attitude. Every time she's hosting WH my heart sinks. I feel sorry for her interviewees. I can't understand why she got the job, it's tragic.

Libby Purves, on the other hand, is amazing. I want her to adopt me. smile

MrsCampbellBlack Sat 27-Oct-12 20:16:27

Oh I like Jane and not just because she always replies to my tweets wink

But I generally love Woman's Hour. They were pretty much the first media outlet to cover the Rochdale story and that was a couple of years back if I remember correctly.

zippy539 Sat 27-Oct-12 20:24:53

Nope - I like her direct style and prefer her to the sainted Jenny who I find a bit sickly and over earnest. Yes, sometimes she throws the gauntlet down to guests but in doing so she gets them to justify themselves which in turn gives me a better understanding of their thinking/position.

peasabovesticks Sat 27-Oct-12 22:17:20

It isn't sexist to complain about JG. I often complain about men too who are crap at interviewing.

R4 Sat 27-Oct-12 23:04:48

Libby Purves is one of my pet hates although I must admit that I haven't lstened to her for a while - her voice is one of the few that has me reaching for the off button - has she improved?

She fills her programme with eccentrics who have sailed widdershins aroundthe British Isles, made organic wool from bactrian camels, single-handedly rebuilt their ancestral castle, trekked across the Silk Route from the Taklamakan Desert to Ahmadabad, blah blah blah. They all think that they are a mix between Laurence of Arabia and Jan Morris. She has an undisguised disdain for people with ordinary lives otherwise known as the radio 4 audience

NetworkGuy Sun 28-Oct-12 17:10:31

"otherwise known as the radio 4 audience" LOL

Surely it's not her fault that the format of that particular show (I'm assuming you mean 'Midweek', not the 'Reunion' one) gets a bunch of unusual characters (being polite here), in much the same way that 'Saturday Review' happens to visit a lot of arty and cultural events mostly in the South East, where lots of the R4 audience don't actually live, nor even visit that often!

GrendelsMum Sun 28-Oct-12 17:59:17

You know, I think that's the nice thing about Mumsnet. You don't have to listen to people telling you abut how they trekked on an organic camel across the Silk Route to sell the hand-spun wool that funded the restoration of their ancestral castle - instead people say things like 'I listened to quite a good afternoon play yesterday', or 'there's a patch of peeling paint on my living room wall', which are ultimately the stuff of life.

evenkeel Fri 02-Nov-12 15:07:47

I do enjoy listening to JG in the main; I think the offhand manner is just 'her' and can be very funny - but I have to agree with R4 and NotQuitePerfect that every time there's an item about cooking or something domestic, you can virtually hear her rolling her eyes in impatience and making snippy remarks. She's always introducing items by saying things like 'now, if you make your own jam - though frankly, why would you want to?'....or 'as far as I'm concerned, life is too short to knead bread/make pastry/bake scones' etc etc

They once sent her to talk to lovely 90-something Marguerite Patten and be shown how to make various dishes, and she kept muttering this sort of thing throughout the interview. It was so uncalled for.

IndridCold Sun 04-Nov-12 10:57:57

I'm not a big fan either. I remember that she just couldn't believe her ears when Miranda Hart told her that she had loved being at boarding school, it obviously didn't fit in with her own preconceptions.

Ha ha well I'm glad it's not just me then!wink

I quite like Winifred Robinson as an interviewer/presenter. Does she sometimes cover for WH or have I imagined that?

mignonette Mon 05-Nov-12 18:47:19

But Libby Purves is based in Suffolk- her life can't be all that exciting.....(Disclaimer- Suffolk was once my family 'seat')....wink....

GrendelsMum Mon 05-Nov-12 21:50:51

I genuinely reckon that one of the WH presenters has some kind of food related illness (IBS or something) - there's this sort of weird nervousness and anticipation of how 'it will give you wind' when discussing the most ordinary food, which really reminds me of one of my nephews.

jardy Sat 01-Dec-12 12:42:40

I really REALLY like JG

SilverBaubles33 Tue 04-Dec-12 22:30:50

R4 I always imagine Libby Purves to have had some mind-numbing life of desperate suburban ordinariness as you can hear her pant damply with excitement at all the whacky types she collects round her table that you capture so well.

WH sounds to like a Dementor, sucking all joy from the airwaves. Although I once heard her flirt with an ice-cream maker. It made me shudder.

lljkk Mon 10-Dec-12 16:23:52

I like Garvey. What's so wrong about establishing facts? confused

I tend to turn over to R5Live if WH is talking about food or domestics (saying that as a SAHM who loves her food, too).

R4 Mon 07-Jan-13 10:24:41

Grrr @ JG. Again.
They are talking about the changes to Child Benefit. She had an expert on who explained in great detail. I concentrated on what she was saying and understood it. JG said, to paraphrase, "ooh. it involves numbers and money. Panic, panic. I'm fluffy and don't understand. wibble." This was incredibly rude to her guest - JG was effectively saying that that she hadn't done her job properly because one of the listeners (JG) still didn't comprehend the situation. The fault lay with JG not listening, not with the expert.
JG should have researched her topic before the programme so that she was up to speed and could ask searching questions. Why was she selected to present on this if she can't be bothered to make an effort to listen is such a dunderhead?

Get rid of her WH: she doesn't engage properly with interviewees

EuphemiaLennox Mon 07-Jan-13 21:18:27

I love Jane Garvey. I loved her at 5live and like her on WH.

Didn't hear today, but heard the domestic violence one and thought the questions about why the women stayed needed asking, as it would have been what most listeners were thinking and it needs explaining why women stay, it's an imporatnt part of understanding DV. No point in 'poor you' or 'how fascinating' style of interviews.

I love Fi Glover too.

And Sheelagh Fogerty.

I think those three are much better broadcasters thn nearly all other women, and men, on radio currently.

I do like Jane Garvey - Jenni Murray irritates me and cannot bear Libby Purves

grants1000 Wed 06-Feb-13 17:37:03

I really like Jane, she cuts to the quick and stops guests waffling on and she gets to the point/s being discussed. I like the fact she can roll her eyes be snippy, makes punchy radio, after all just cos it's WH doesn't mean we all have to hold hands in glee, apron on, briefcase in hand etc etc.

I think when she was with Peter Allen on 5 Live she had to hone her skills, he a right wing mysoginist with just the right touch of cosy caring grandpa!

I think all the WH presenters present a good blend and I glad they are different, Jenny Murray can be a bit sing-songy and too girly (yes I am aware it's WOMANS hour).

NetworkGuy Thu 07-Feb-13 10:38:01

Have really wondered why it wasn't called WOMEN'S HOUR and know that on Five Live they named the other programme MEN'S HOUR. Was there some stupid assumption made when WH was named 6o-odd years ago that female listeners were listening at home where they were always solitary ?

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