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If she loves being with the terminally dull Paul so much, why doesn't she just tell Matt it's all over, ask him to leave and install Paul in Ambridge? It's her house, isn't it?

She's not tied to Matt through kids or financial necessity, and she doesn't seem to like him very much even when he's trying to be nice to her.

Is it just the thought of Peggy's cat's bum face that's stopping her?

Matt can't run the business because he went to prison, so Lillian is the respectable face of Amside. So that would be tres complicated. Also, do you remember when he and Lilian first got together and he was splitting from his ex wife? Wasn't there some sort of storyline where he was swindling her out of a valuable painting, or getting one over on her in some other way? I wonder if Lilian is worried about this happening again.

So she might be staying because otherwise Matt would be jobless? I suppose she could remain on the board as the 'respectable face' in name only, but that would spin out the bitterness and rows.

Also I suppose Matt might be vindictive over a split, but they aren't married, so an assets divide should be pretty straightforward, surely? (I don't remember about the ex-wife [Yvonne?] and the painting, but I frequently forget large chunks of Archers back stories...)

Yvonne! It was driving me mental. Yes I think she's staying out of some sense of loyalty to Matt re the business. Oh I don't know. I love Lilian normally but she is getting on my bloody nerves atm, all that fuss about Whitby, it's the North Yorkshire seaside not trekking in the Yukon ffs woman.

I think she doesn't actually want to be with Paul when push comes to shove. I think she'd rather be with Matt and this is just a little way of her getting back in control.

She would miss being called 'Pussycat'.

You have to admit that no-one can say 'Pussycat' in as growly a way as Matt Crawford.

Oh thank goodness for this thread... No one in RL listens, DH mocks it, have had to rant about this to DC3 (6 months). I love Lilian, I think she's have run off to Jersey with a new lover, not stayed around lying about Judith... (Is it Judith?)

Blimey, I love Lilian normally but she's doing my head in. I think she needs to ditch Paul (he's awful!) I think Matt suspects... he'as far too attentive to minor details about her life.

Is Paul not Bad, though? Married? Something fishy, surely?

marian I don't remember Paul's back story either. I reckon he's too straight for Lil; she'd have to watch her drinking if she settled with him. She's enjoying all his attention and the intrigue (even though she's pretending she doesn't). She could kick Matt into touch no problem but IMO she doesn't want to.

Paul is just soooo not Lillian's type. It is really annoying me that she insists on continuing all this silliness, though Matt does rather deserve it.

Isn't Paul Matt's brother? but Matt was adopted? something came up whilst he was in prison and Matt wouldn't see him?

I remember the search for matt's birth mother, but i have no idea where paul fits in with all that.

Paul is matt's long lost half brother I think.

Lilian tracked down Matt's birth family when he was in prison and that's how she met Paul. He was nice to her while Matt was being a grumpy inmate.

Then he was nice to her when Matt was being a nasty landlord.

Yes it's a bit gushy and puts me off my dinner. Does anyone listen to Ambridge Xtra, they seem to put the real backstories on there which is most annoying.

Didn't they (L & P) nearly get together before, while Matt was in prison? But then Lilian couldn't bring herself to abandon him when he had just got out? With some overtones of not being able to go to Paul when he was the one who'd got to be with their mother but Matt had been abandoned?

I've been wondering why her leaving never comes up, even if she's staying for the same reason you think it might come up in conversation between them.

They did shag, just the once I think, when matt was in prison.

Matt scorned, would be petrifying, no?

Yes, I thought he suspected today - "you went to the river Thames and the national gallery, eh? " etc etc

Oh god Lillian is driving me insane right now. And Paul is just horrible.

But don't forget Matt and Annabel either actually 'did it' or they were about to when they were disturbed. Matt is only trying to hang on to Lil. because his business depends on her; it's all an act IMO.

Of course if Lil chucked him out he'd probably go apeshit

Huh! I must have missed this whole Annabel business! Who is she?!

Annabel is on the Board of Borchestershire Land Grabbers, or whatever it is Brian is chair of. She's some kind of corporate Land lawyer. I thought Brian nearly got off with Annabel, too(?) It's disgusting the way Lillian & Paul openly discuss their deceit. And why hasn't he begged her to leave Matt, by now?

I think Paul was raised by Matt's birth mother, that's their shared parent.

Damn, I was so smug that I knew Lilian and paul had a history, I took my eyes off what Matt was doing.

As for Paul, he is surely building up for that conversation, say, next Monday? - or will Lilian be uncovered before then? (Bites nails in anticipation)

IMO Paul (like Lil) enjoys the intrigue and sex they're not suited really are they? I mean she must stink of fags and she's not exactly god's gift either is she? He's much better looking IMO I like her voice though and her personality