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Am I going over the top here?(32 Posts)
I'm between the bugaboo bee and the uppababy vista. Same price bracket (sort of) but majorly different in terms of usage.
Anyway, my other pregnant friends are only spending £250 max as they say anything over is excessive and a waste. What do you think? Do I need to go for a cheaper pram or am I buying into quality products that are going to last? Don't want to spend money I don't have to. Thanks in advance.
My.experience is that needs change as your baby turns into a toddler. I know a lot of people who changed to an umbrella stroller after a year. Those are both good pushchairs, but if you can only afford them by not buying another pushchair for years, I would.probably recommend a slightly cheaper pram.
Unless you walk miles everyday, spending a lot of money on a pram is pointless
I don't know anyone that was still using the same pram by the time the child was 14 months
I made the mistake of getting a cheap pram with dc1. It made my life very difficult and I had awful backache because of it, I had a mothercare my something or other. It broke a lot, was really difficult to get in the car and tough to manoeuvre anywhere.
I now have dc2 and bought a stokke which I LOVE! I can push easily and turn with one hand, it has had no issues and is really easy to collapse.
I would say if it is something you will use daily or even every other day it's worth it.
We got a cheep push chair 1st and I hated it and ended up getting the bee anyway so it cost me more in the end so its a total false economy. I love our bee, it's so easy to push and just as easy to fold down as an umbrella push chair IMO, it just doesn't fold up as small but it's still quite compact. It lasted us years and I never felt the need to replace it and now still using it for dc2. I also love that it can be rear facing so we can chat as we're walking along. I'd totally recommend it and would by it again. Hope that's helpful.
I think you generally get a better quality pram when you buy one of the more expensive brands but I'm sure there are some exceptions. I would rather spend more and be 100% happy with my choice than try and save money on something you will be using constantly. Not everyone changes to an umbrella stroller, I haven't and my DC is 19 months now. If I were you, I would just go with what you want as long as you have researched both prams and tried them out to make sure you are happy with your decision. Doesn't matter what your friends think or what they want to spend if you are doing what is right for you and your budget!
We bought a Vista and have used it for 15 months. We don't have a car so it gets used a lot. It's a dream to push and DD loved being in it. But its big. I wouldn't want to fold and unfold for a car several times a day. I tried other pushchairs and nothing compared to the Vista for us, even a more expensive bugaboo, icandy, etc. Had we been on a smaller budget I would have probably gone for a bjcm, though they don't parent face and are not as nice quality as some other brands.
Am selling our Vista now if you are interested!
Yes, I think you have to think about your lifestyle more than the pushchair. Will you be putting the baby in a car seat every day? If so, will you still need a pushchair every day too? Will you be walking into town every day? Would you be going on public transport a lot? etc
We got the oyster and carrycot and car seat that all interchange
Ds has just turned 14 months and we still use it
We have got a cheapie 2nd hand second one to take to Cornwall with us in the summer as the oyster takes up too much boot space
We bought a Stokke Xplory and have used it every day since DD was born (16 months). Hands down, our best purchase. No-one else I met at baby groups is still using their original pram except us. Just a fantastic pram, I guess!
We went through a few different buggies with DD and in the end a second hand Bugaboo was what suited best, and stayed with us for DS. And when we were finished with it, we sold it for what we'd originally paid for it.
I bought a cheap pushchair deal - hated it very quickly and really wish I'd shopped around more the first time around.
I have a fairly large bugaboo (bigger than bee), It's one if the best baby things I own. I've used it every day since DS was 3 months - was in sling before that - and am still using it at 18 months. I walk a lot every day, don't drive and very rarely use public transport so It's perfect for me. Do those push chairs match up with your needs better than a cheap one? If they do and you can afford it, then get it.
Thanks for the responses... Really need to figure out what and when I'll be using it.
With the benefit of hindsight I would have just bought the Bugaboo which DH deemed to expensive. Two DCs -- a Pliko Pramette system, Baby Jogger plus various accessories for both AND a stroller for holidays, I think we've ended up spending almost the same. The Pliko was fab, but I couldn't steer once DD2 came along when DD1 was 2.9. Buy something you can steer one handed
We've used a babyjogger city mini from birth. Ds is 18 months old. It was £160 from kiddicare
I used a Bugaboo Cameleon from birth right up until DS2 stopped needing a pushchair. I've just put it up the loft for DC3 when they are born in a few months. I bought mine second hand off Ebay and definitely wish I had gotten one for DS1, would have saved loads
I have a bee. Once my DC1 was c.12m, I mainly used my mclaren - partly as DC1 was heavy and the mcl is much lighter, partly for the size and ease of folding at nursery. I now use the Bee with DC2, & really appreciate how much easier it is to steer. But one downside of the bee is no separate carrycot. When both kids were under 6m, I envied the chameleon. I don't now as the bee is a lot more nimble for city streets, shops, buses, tube etc. The reality is your needs change.
If you are planning a second DC, I have two friends, one who bought a phil and teds, one a donkey - planning ahead!! - for the single baby stage (but without all the doubles stuff), then bought the rest with DC2. Which gives you a heavier pram for the first 6m, but saves you c.£700plus longer term.
So yes, I now have three buggies, and use all of them interchangably. And otherwise trip over them.
I love my Vista. It's a dream to push: today I was one handed in the rain (other hand for umbrella!) with a pretty fully shopping basket (and the basket is huge!) MiL (childminder with many a pram and pushchair under her belt) loves it too. I have a spinal condition and was really worried about the strain that prams etc might put on my back, but I haven't had any problems at all.
The thing that really put me off Bugaboos when I was buying is how low to the ground the baby is in them. The baby is really quite a long way away from you which makes it harder to interact. The Vista is a nice height for chatting- both to me and to random people in shops and at pedestrian crossings!
We had a great deal on a stokke xplory and got heaps of use out of it. Especially good if you are tall. So yes I would probably spend a little more.
I'm on the fence... on the one hand the quality isn't quite the same when you spend a lot less but on the other you can get a Graco Evo from kiddicare atm for well under £200 and it's a great pushchair. I have had others in a similar price bracket, such as the Joie Chrome, that have been fab and others that have been next to useless
Hauck I'm looking at you here.
We had a Bugaboo Bee, and used it until DS didn't need a pram any more. It's a nice little pram, miles smaller than most other from newborn prams.
I am warming towards the bugaboo bee, just because I think it may suit me a little better. I'm thinking of the places I go currently and the fact I'll be alone a lot because of DH working, so I'll need something light and no fuss, though how low the bee is does put me off.
i have a bee didnt have it when my dc where new born though. they can be a little open for new borns. you will need a cocoon or a nest to put in it. Bugaboo make them or you can get some very pretty custom made ones check out e bay.
what i love about the bee is that you can change the hoods so you never get board with having the same pram.
you get what you pay for with prams the same as with everything else. there is no comparison between a cheap stroller and a bee.
i also have a stokke xplory and the height in it is fantastic my dd loves it.
the bugaboo bee is one of my best buys - so light and easy to push my dd is 18 months and still using parent facing.
I did start with a second hand bugaboo gecko which I loved unfortunately there was a fault with the frame which couldnt be fixed then tried a bugaboo frog (old version of the cameleon) but I couldnt carry up and down to our flat. so settled with bee and very happy
I think looking at what you REALLY need is the most important. If you think a Bee will suit you best through all stages, then you would probably get better value for money from it and never ever want to look at an umbrella fold stroller. Whereas, I could easily see you yearning for a smaller fold pushchair in future if you bought the Vista. This isn't a bad thing though if you are aware it may well happen. Moving away from these two, there are lots of options which may sit somewhere between the two pushchairs - the Vista is pretty big - which may suit.
I'm probably not the best person to answer; we have three buggies and they all get used each week...
W have a BabyJogger City Select - this replaced our original travel system (M&P) which we had for DC1 until DC2 was born. The City Select is a tandem/single. It's big, it's robust, has a massive basket and can be parent-facing. DC2 is 2 next month and this is still our everyday buggy, still in parent-facing mode and I love it. In fact, the main reason we bought this double was because DC1 was 2.7 when DC2 was born and refused to face out...
We also have a Maclaren umbrella fold. It lives in the car and is great for short trips to the shops, using on the tube/buses (though for a full day out in central London I take the City Select) or taking on holiday. I rarely use it for DC2 to sleep in, though - whereas he will climb into the City Select for a nap! It's light but horrible to steer and can't be pushed one-handed, unlike the City Select, so I hate taking it anywhere I need to hold onto DC1’s hand.
Finally we have a Nipper 360 3-wheeler. We use this for hilly/off road walks, mud, snow, etc. We had this for DC1 - my parents live in the countryside, DH's live by the seaside, we live near woods/steep hills. It's suitable from NB, our Maclaren is suitable from 6m and was easier for holidays/tubes etc once we had a toddler as well as a baby. We use this least of all these days, but it came into its own last winter, being pushed uphill for just under a mile each way twice a day on snow and ice to nursery and back. It will go where the car can't, and where a four-wheeler will get bogged down, so it's my emergency back-up.
I would love to get rid of a buggy. At the moment, we do use all of ours every week, and not one of them would be suitable for all purposes. So for now we're hanging on to all of them rather than compromise for the sake of another 6m or so. In fact, we even used the City Select as a double again a month ago, when DC1 was ill, the traffic was totally screwed and I needed to get her to the GP a 20-min walk away...
So basically, you're never going to find the one perfect buggy! You need to work out what you're most likely to use it for on a daily basis and for how long (and whether there'll be a DC2 within the next 3 years), and whether you are going to buy just the one buggy or be prepared to buy two for different functions, eg cheap umbrella for holiday if your main one is expensive, etc.
How suitable is the bee for longer walks (on pavement)? I'm 2 miles from town, and usually drive, but am thinking if I want to walk some days, will it be suitable? Really great advice here to think about. I keep hearing about these baby joggers or something, are they good?
Still using our Bugaboo Bee at 14months. Largely chosen as we don't have a car so needed something suitable for public transport and walking. During ML was generally walking with it for several miles a day (DS refused to sleep anywhere else), experienced no problems at all and have loved it throughout. It's light, easy to steer and very comfortable to push around for hours!
Disclaimer-we now use a Maclaren for the nursery run which a friend gave to us but this is a consequence of lack of buggy storage space rather than an issue with the Bee.
We have a Vista and I love it. I do get it in and out of the car a couple of times a day, but I'm tall and fairly strong so the size doesn't bother me. I think the key is to be absolutely honest with yourself about what you will use it for. I don't use public transport or spend a lot of time in town, but we do some fairly rugged walks so the Vista works for us. We haven't felt the need to buy a second pushchair.
Also if you splash out on one of the more expensive brands, it will have a good resale value so you will get some of your money back.
I regret not getting a bee. Got a lay flat, both ways facing buggy from m&p which we still use for ds 2.5 and is the only one we have ever had. It was a lot cheaper than the bee.
The bee was out of our budget at the time which is why we didn't get it. But I wish we had stretched a bit and got it anyway.
Am pregnant again and I really want a bee, even though the current m&p buggy will suffice. The bee is narrower than ours and lighter (although our m&p one is fairly light and fairly narrow, never had a problem getting on buses etc). I still want one though and am planning on making savings elsewhere so we can get a bee +buggy board!!
Still using the iCandy now DS is 3 - I don't drive so it's great for walking to supermarket and I can fit lots of shopping in it. It's comfortable for him, lovely to push and can face either way. Also have a M&P stroller which will fold up on bus. The iCandy is in perfect condition for DC2 due in April so I'm looking at maybe five or six years of regular use which makes it worth the cost. The cheaper stroller won't last, I don't think so we might need another light fold-up one at some point
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