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What if I don't want a travel system. Just a pram. What would you buy?

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FussandMess Mon 17-Jun-13 19:35:13

I'm not bothered if the car seat fits on. I will just move baby from car seat to pram.

I will at some point buy a Maclaren Tech XT so I don't really need it to turn into a pushchair.

I just want a comfortable pram with a large carrycot so baby can stay lying flat for as long as possible.

What would you get?

FussandMess Mon 17-Jun-13 20:33:24

Is there even such a thing as 'just' a pram these days?

If you're determined to go the Maclaren route then why not an XLR that takes a carrycot?

And no, I'm not sure there is! Unless you want a massive Silver Cross type thing.

TwitchyTail Mon 17-Jun-13 21:15:28

I looked into this as I feel the same as you, and came to the conclusion that there is no such thing as just a pram nowadays, in the mainstream at least. Probably because there isn't a market for them, now that everyone has bought into the idea that babies must be kept strapped in Maxi Cosis at all times until their first birthday and will explode if you actually pick them up with bare hands.

Just buy what you like and save money on the car seat adaptors grin Maclaren plus carrycot is a good idea, or advice in other thread still stands <whispers "second hand Bee" seductively>.

If I had the choice again (not going to happen!) I'd go for a pramette (is that what they're called?) You know, the kind of one where the flat carrycot can be 'snapped' and the back raised up. This is because although I was all for keeping DD in her carrycot pram as long as possible, at 11 weeks she screamed and screamed and screamed until I put the buggy attachment on so she could see out.

She's 6 now and still a nosy bugger grin.

FussandMess Mon 17-Jun-13 21:52:09

Do you mean like the pilko premaette?

Does anyone know which pram/carrycot has the most space inside?

Yeah, that sort of thing! But you can't predict the kind ofbaby you're going to get, sadly!

GampyWabbit Mon 17-Jun-13 22:50:01

A friend leant her pliko pramette to me after dc3 was born. It was lovely to use while dd was tiny. She ended up selling it for £40, so they can be bought very cheaply, especially if you'll only use it for a short time.

MortifiedAdams Mon 17-Jun-13 22:54:24

I got theXLR and carrycot. Got the comoatable carseat aswell incase I ever needed to useit and did once or twice. Dd is nowin just the stroller. Love it - never goingto need another buggy.

noisytoys Mon 17-Jun-13 22:55:13

I have a Pliko Pramette for DD2 (age 2.8) they are great. 5 year old DD rises on the step on the back when she's too lazy to walk grin

tiredteddy Mon 17-Jun-13 23:01:39

I've had 3dc (youngest 5months now) and never had a travel system. You don't have to buy the adapters for any pram buggy if you don't want to. Just choose one with a carrycot/ soft carry cot pram mettle style or lie flat option and then move your baby. Mine woke sometimes slept sometimes whatever it wasn't a problem. My point is that you can choose any buggy you like and use how you like. You do not have to have the carseat on or buy the attechements if that is not how you would like to use it.

Essexgirlupnorth Mon 17-Jun-13 23:05:15

I have got a uppababy vista it has a large carrycot as wanted a proper pram. Does fit a maxi-cosi car seat but have to buy separately. Silver cross do a heritage coach style pram but is £1500!

JaquelineHyde Mon 17-Jun-13 23:20:18

Get the Maclaren XLR with the carrycot. I currently have it for DS2 (6 weeks) and I am so pleased with it. So glad we don't have to fork out for a separate pushchair.

mrsyattering Mon 17-Jun-13 23:30:01

I had a mamas and papas xcel pram the carry cot is huge. Not sure if you can get them new anymore. But lots on ebay/gumtree. Kept dd and ds in as long as possible (I think 3/4 months) before moving to a mclaren style buggy. I loved it....still have it in the hope of a third wink ( unlikely sad )

mrsyattering Mon 17-Jun-13 23:33:24

forgot to add, the carrycot on the mclaren is tiny imo.

Hoophopes Mon 17-Jun-13 23:40:33

My ds slept flat in bugaboo chameleon til 14 months old. Seemed one of the largest 2 yrs ago.

MortifiedAdams Tue 18-Jun-13 08:26:17

Yes, the carrycot on the xlr is small, dd was in it til 4/5mo however the stroller also lies totally flat so.eveb once they are out of the carrycot they can still lie totally flat (dd 18mo still does for her naps)

JaquelineHyde Tue 18-Jun-13 09:46:18

DS will be out of the carrycot by about 3 months I expect, but like Mortified has said the pushchair lies completely flat so the only difference is it becomes forward facing.

Phineyj Tue 18-Jun-13 09:54:24

We have a Graco Evo which is good but the car seat is heavy. The pram part and wheels alone are fine, and it converts into a pushchair. I agree with you that transfering the baby is much simpler than lugging a car seat about...

Number6at40 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:03:54

I had an inglesina classica in vanilla, totally gorgeous , looks like a baby balmoral .
Absolutely perfect , and folds to go in the car.
Sold it and regretted it so i then had to buy a Kensington as my little girl hates being confined into a buggy .

FussandMess Tue 18-Jun-13 10:10:32

The inglesina classica is beautiful. I would look a bit out of place pushing that around here though.

Its exactly what I want though.

Is there anything else like that but cheaper and a bit less fancy?

Number6at40 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:27:31

I bought my Kensington second had but immaculate for £50 .
Would that be too big ?
I also have a Jan Stewart Churchill pram maybe you should check them out .
Or what about the silver cross elegance ,it looks lovely but I don't know if you can just buy the carrycot and chassis or f it's the whole system .

Ihateparties Tue 18-Jun-13 10:41:09

As above a used coachbuilt pram, there are plenty still around otherwise emmaljunga classic type ones, babystyle do some too as do the glasgow pram centre/vib.

From what you're saying used would probably be good for you as you have no illusions about using it past the baby stage so not looking for the elusive does everything pushchair. Buying and selling a used one for the time you want it for you should be able to break even. Personally I would go with swivel wheels rather than 4 fixed ones but that is a personal preference based on my life not yours.

FussandMess Tue 18-Jun-13 10:42:49

Good point - I need to find out if it has swivel wheels, that's pretty important.

FussandMess Tue 18-Jun-13 10:51:52

I've read a MN review for the emmaljunga and now I don't think it would fit in my boot - we have a standard hatchback.

Ihateparties Tue 18-Jun-13 10:55:20

Do you defo want a carrycot or would a lie flat seat also work? 1 of my 3 liked lying in her carrycot until over 6mths, the other 2... not so much, a lie flat seat would have been better for them in hindsight. Some carrycots have a rising backrest type thing though.. i'm trying to remember which ones.

Your original brief was hmmm not too big, light.. what else,i have forgotten. Lots of walking, what type of terrain? Like would air tyres be useful or a pita due to punctures etc.

Number6at40 Tue 18-Jun-13 11:01:32

What about a leebruss then ,
They are usually 3 in 1s they have 4 large wheels but the front swivels.

FussandMess Tue 18-Jun-13 11:06:18

I think a lie flat seat would actually be better now I've realised the difference, or a rising backrest on a carrycot.

Walking on normal paths, round the shops, school run etc.

EmmalJunga Nitro City or if you can get it a Herqules

I have the single and the double of the Herqules, have tried dozens of prams and this is by far, the best.

Very comfy, lies completely flat, adjustable leg/foot rest, swivel front wheels available in 3 and 4 wheeler, changing bag and bottle holders built into the hood, hood covers entire pram when upright and half the pram when laid flat, choice of soft or hard carry cot, folds very easy, massive shopping basket (can hold nearly a weeks worth of shopping or instead 2 boxes of nappies! And you can actually attach a car seat if you wanted.

And you can buy them very cheaply. I have raved about it, seriously. I've tried most of the more expensive prams but this is so much better.

And my first was a Leebruss, most uncomfy seat ever and really hard to steer, tyres had a tendency to deflate.

The Herqules/Emmaljunga tyres are also puncture proof. wink

Ihateparties Tue 18-Jun-13 11:48:52

I always fancied a nitro city but never actually got one, it's really compact. Suppose you could also consider a mutsy evo, it's bigger but has a good lie flat seat. You could do a lot worse than a Graco Evo also, I think it has been mentioned upthread somewhere. A Jane Muum may also work.

FussandMess Tue 18-Jun-13 13:20:42

That herqules is the only one on Ebay atm.

Just been looking at the reviews for the Graco Evo and reading some threads on MN about it. It seems everyone really likes it.

I can't find the review on the Nitro but the threads I've read are all positive.

FussandMess Tue 18-Jun-13 13:42:14

Although now I'm swaying towards an Emmaljunga Edge. Does anyone know how small they fold up?

Fuss I was in the Pram Centre today and found a new one I like, the EmmalJunga monkey, it was a lovely colour too and had a pretty lining.

Just had a look at the edge, it looks like it would fold the same as a Leebruss or similar.

For the Herqules, I got the double from Gumtree.

Hellonewworld Tue 18-Jun-13 20:19:34

What about a silver cross sleepover with the swivel wheeled chassis? That sounds perfect for what you want and you can pick them up quite cheaply second hand and still in good condition. smile

FussandMess Tue 18-Jun-13 21:23:39

The monkey looks fab but I doubt I'd be able to find one second hand. I couldn't see any on Ebay.

I had the silvercross 3D for dd2 and I wasn't impressed. Is the sleepover better?

we had an emmaljunga and it was brilliant - it was a proper pushchair that was robust and lasted (with the addition of the snap on toddlerseat) until my boys were old enough to walk - then I passed it on. I only had that and a cheapo stroller for occasional trips on the bus.

princesssmartypantss Tue 18-Jun-13 21:30:28

Same as essex i have uppababy vista, good pram top, and when you turn into pushchair its great too. We never used car seat on it, but you can apparently. Folds up really well, light but sturdy and v easy to push. If you look on uppababy website they have list of stockists, but i think john lewis also stock them too now, so worth a look if you can get to see one!

gosh I only read the OP and didn't realise you were all talking about the emmaljungas....doh!

Aldwick Tue 18-Jun-13 21:37:22

My 18 month old can still sleep in his mothercare my4 which you can pick up fairly cheaply on e bay. When he was tiny and it was winter I had the p and t cocoon in there which fitted perfectly.

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