Support thread for House Renovators/DIYers

(305 Posts)
LPlateFlyer Wed 17-Apr-13 11:41:07

Was wondering if anyone wanted to join me in a support thread for all of us doing lots of renovating, odd jobs, diy etc. This can be somewhere we can do some well deserved bragging on a job well done! smile

I have sooooo much DIY that needs to get done. shock

I almost finished the downstairs loo yesterday. All that needs to be done is a second coat of paint on the door and a towel rail and toilet roll holder to be put up.

Yesterday's Tada list:
Painted skirtings in loo 2x coats
Painted door frame in loo 2x coats
Painted door in loo 1 x coat
Put together and installed a small bathroom cabinet

I'm about to start putting together an Ikea book case so that I can get some of the books out of storage!

LPlateFlyer Wed 17-Apr-13 20:35:41

Well, maybe someone will join me after the weekend!

Ta da for today:
Put together book case
Sand lots of edges of stair case
Fill along skirting and wall join
Putty some nail holes in skirtings
Treat the knots in the wood of the balustrades

and this ^ is why I hate this stage of DIY. The sanding is never ending, backbreaking, hand ruining and doesn't actually LOOK like you've done anything!!

Tizwozliz Wed 17-Apr-13 22:09:53

I have just booked a week off work in the hope i can finally do some finishing bits., e.g. plinths under kitchen units, fix new skirting to wall, finish stripping a door and repaint.

LPlateFlyer Thu 18-Apr-13 12:03:31

Oh, a solid week, that would be great! Do you have to do school runs in that? I find that's what really cuts into the time, having to finish in time for a school run instead of working right through the day.

Brugmansia Thu 18-Apr-13 12:07:09

Not actually doing any diy myself at present but will be in due course. I am in the middle of renovating though and currently sorting out getting quotes to fix the sash windows and get a new front door.

The loft extension is almost finished, so loads of dust and chaos. It's only being done to first fix so then the work we'll be doing begins. (then new kitchen, knocking through walls, plastering and shed loads of decoration etc)

I hope this thread keeps going as I suspect lots of support over the upcoming months.

LPlateFlyer Thu 18-Apr-13 22:26:39

Building work and quotes, you DEFINITELY need support for that!!!!

I'll be here for at least a few months. Every job seems to take 3 times longer than I expect it to. How on earth are you supposed to budget time for a job when you've never done it before?

nice, once we get the keys I'll be back"

LPlateFlyer Thu 18-Apr-13 22:38:19

We'll keep your seat warm!! smile

betterwhenthesunshines Fri 19-Apr-13 10:48:57

It's endless. The builders think they've finished - I don't! I have enough to do without doing all their finishing!!

So far I've patched repaired, stripped and lined walls that looked as though they should be replastered. The prep took ages, but with the lining paper in place it now looks great and ready for painting.

Have also painted 2 bedrooms and bathroom including wood panelling....

Need to get on with making curtains and blinds next.

LPlateFlyer Fri 19-Apr-13 15:49:38

My builders were a pain. Their standard comment was 'That's a decorating issue, not a building one'. Grrrr.....

At least our walls have been nicely plastered, that's one job we don't have to do now.

All the building work has been done, including plastering, new room built, bathrooms relocated, new windows, new roof, new flooring ground floor.

Bedroom 1- 80% done
Bedroom 2 - 90% done
Bedroom 3 - 90 % done
Lounge room and dining - 90% done
Stair well and landing - 40% done
Downstairs toilet - 98% done
Kitchen - untouched (by us, builders put in new kitchen and tiled)
Utility room - untouched
Main bathroom - untouched (by us, new suite and tiled)
ensuite bathroom - 40% done

Wow, that's depressing.....

betterwhenthesunshines Sat 20-Apr-13 18:39:38

Haha! Are they the same builders?? Er, no, it's not a decorating issue if I have actually see through the gap on the door frame to the other room, that's a fitting issue.

The other one: "it's within tolerances". My response - "well that depends on whose tolerances.... and my levels of tolerence are fast depleting" <haven't actually said that yet out loud>

Brugmansia Sat 20-Apr-13 18:56:44

Today has been on the more fun end of the spectrum - choosing tiles for the shower room that's going in the loft. It seems DP and I have potentially agreed on some tiles. The problem is they won't go with the flooring I was thinking of so it's back to the drawing board on that.

Aethelfleda Sun 21-Apr-13 06:48:44

Hello! We recently moved into our "maybe forever house" what turned out to be a lot more of a "do-up" than originally envisaged! It's nearly all minor repairs and loads of finishinng-type-stuff rather than taking out walls. (just don't mention the showers)... Can't promise to post loads but it's nice to have a place to say "yay" or "arg"! Plus I'm hoping your impressive list will motivate me as there is SO much to do. Are you childfree or have childcare? I'd never get that much done in a day with my three DC around!

OptimisticOlive Sun 21-Apr-13 09:07:42

God I need this thread! Having discovered that my ex (kids dad) was cheating on me, in my own home, with a friend of mine (ha some friend) I need to rip out everything and make it MINE! So far I have stripped and plastered and decorated my bedroom (including removing my bed), redecorated bathroom and laid new bathroom floor, stripped and redecorated kids room, redecorated and laid new carpet in spare room, stripped hall and stairs, redecorated living room, stripped dining room and waiting to get kitchen done. I have virtually no money (3k to do everything) so am doing most of it myself, while attempting to bring up two small boys and at the same time have to get rid of all my belongings as having been with him for 12 years everything reminds me of him. I am doing pretty well but I am about half way through the work, and am starting to flag a bit. I am sick of the dust and the mess and the chaos, I just want it to be finished so I can relax in my own home and get on with my life! But its an old house so everything takes forever. Although I'm glad now that we never did any of this work while we were together because now I can make it feel like a different house I am really struggling, and it was not helped this weekend by the discovery that sons are riddled with nits for the second time this year! Grrrrrr! So anyone doing DIY I totally feel your pain!

papalazaru Sun 21-Apr-13 15:17:49

Good luck Olive - you deserve a space that's your own. Just try not to be too hard on yourself to get it all done!
We haven't started yet but have plans for our house which we're returning to after renting. I want to move the bathroom, extend a bedroom into the old bathroom space, install a megaflo, do a loft conversion (where megaflo will go), extend the family room and fit a new kitchen.
I'm going to get an architect in to help with the planning of the loft and kitchen but would like to move the bathroom quickly so can anyone offer advice on project planning? Whether to do it in stages? What needs to come first etc - I'm a bit clueless!

SadOldGit Sun 21-Apr-13 18:11:07

Hello - can I join ?

Our never ending extension is almost done (don't get me started on builders and completion dates. Last bit of roofing this week. Then

Boiler to be moved
Windows fitted
Steels so that walls can be knocked down to create kitchen/dining space
rebuild wall to make lounge
New bedroom/ensuite almost ready for plastering - when door knocked through
Then create new bathroom,
Then new ensuite for our room
Then decorate and carpet throughout
Then ?new kitchen finally ready to be fitted.
Oh and then extend porch.

At least we chose bathroom tiles today - the list is endless (and dread to tot up cost)

LPlateFlyer Mon 22-Apr-13 09:48:52

Wow Olive! You've done so much. Yay you!!! I also de-nitted and de-wormed the household on the weekend. (De-nitted was needed, de-worming was precautionary).

Aethelfleda - I have 2 DSs, 3 and 6. I call it loving neglect and abandoned them in the lounge room with all their toys - they may be bored for awhile, but they soon find ways of entertaining themselves. They were in the 48 hour clearance zone after a stomach bug.

Last time I tried to paint with them around DS2 left green hand and foot prints everywhere. This time I set up their paints, with loads of towels down, and let them paint their own pictures on some boards.

It was too nice to be stuck indoors this weekend, so over the weekend we bought a chiminea and burnt lots of old rubbish timber lying around, and I put up on of those plastic walk in greenhouses, potted up some tomatoes, and cleaned out the pond, which was REALLY overgrown. Had to be careful because we have newts in there (bird ate the fish when we didn't put the netting back fast enough, so the newts moved in). Counted 20 grown up newts and about 6 small ones which were the babies from the end of last season who had managed to survive winter in the pond. Technically not supposed to handle them as they're an endangered variety, but with a small overgrown pond something had to be done.

LPlateFlyer Mon 22-Apr-13 10:07:25

Papalazaru - the architect might give you a heads up, but I think it goes lie this:

Design bathroom and work out where the plumbing and power points will need to go (don't forget electrics for a fan, and for shaver/toothbrush plug)
New/fix window
Plumbing and electrics go first, doesn't matter which of the 2
Flooring base needs to be fixed if it needs redoing
Re -plaster walls
Fix door frames/doors
Floor tiling could be done here
Bathtub, handbasin inc vanity unit base, electric towel rail.
Tile walls
Put in shower (shower needs to go OVER the tiles usually)
Flooring could be done here
Bathtub surround (if you need one)
Taps and faucets
Vanity unit and mirrors on wall

LPlateFlyer Mon 22-Apr-13 10:08:33

Oh and Papalazaru - if you're going to get someone to put it in, get a specialised bathroom installer. Judging from the efforts of our builder general builders are pretty crap at installing bathrooms and kitchens.

Brugmansia Mon 22-Apr-13 11:30:11

On the DC question, we were child free when we moved into this house 18 months ago. The house had been empty for about 10 years and needed complete most modernisation (no central heating, only a sink in the kitchen). We also wanted to extend and then change the layout. So far most of the work has been making the place basically habitable on a temporary basis and planning. During that time DS arrived and is now 11 weeks old. It means I can't really do anything practical right now but am around while the builders are here and have time to do research, chase up quotes and do the other admin. I just hope we manage to get the majority of the bigger jobs done before he is mobile.

LPlateFlyer Mon 22-Apr-13 11:47:43

I think dust and fumes can be the biggest problem with DC. Mine are old enough now that when the weather warms up I can kick encourage them outside and they will avoid the worst of it. Much harder with babies.

Brugmansia Wed 24-Apr-13 15:43:07

So far it's been ok and there hasn't been too much dust and any files have been up on the roof. The bedroom and sitting room can be shut off and DS and I mainly stay there when in the house. We'll shortly be taking out 3 chimney breasts which will be a nightmare dust and mess wise. When that happens (DP will be doing the work) DS and I will go and stay at my parents, who handily live near.

Brugmansia Wed 24-Apr-13 15:43:54

Files = fumes

Aethelfleda Wed 24-Apr-13 23:26:48

We've put up five (!) Ikea bookcases and painted our homemade squares for raised beds. Have also been thinking about getting some Romex to re-point the patio, though realistically that is waaay down the list as it's not too bad and there is so much else to do!

Tomorrow need to ring our plumber to see when he can start on doing our showers....

LPlateFlyer Thu 25-Apr-13 09:53:27

Well done Aethelfleda! It's nice doing some outdoor things when the weather is nice though, it's almost a reward for the rubbish indoor jobs!

Next expensive job - get our 18 month old washing machine repaired angry. <steam coming out of ears>

Sigh.... on top of everything else that needs doing.

Aethelfleda Thu 25-Apr-13 13:43:37

Ooh yes lplate, I know that what-else-can-go-wrong feeling!

We've got a non-comprehensive rolling list of things to do, I'm a SAHM since the move, so have some time in the day but it always gets eaten up by housework and necessaries. What I WANT to be doing now is more DIY. What I AM doing is folding the EU washing mountain while cuddling a grumpy won't-nap DS.....

Tonight is finalising the shower plus sink/bidet order, we're getting them put in but are sourcing them ourselves to save a few ££.

MinimalistMommi Thu 25-Apr-13 13:56:42

Can I join?

I need to (well, get someone in blush):
-Take down old staircase and build new staircase in new location.
-Install woodburner -adding log beam etc
-Lift manky carpet and strip all the floorboards in entire house.
-re plaster entire every room in the house.
-Redecorate every room in house.
-Open up fireplace in front room.
-Replace Kitchen.

MinimalistMommi Thu 25-Apr-13 14:03:15

I forgot...we would also like to replace all the internal doors too. Eventually we would like to replace front door and back door.

Jidget Thu 25-Apr-13 19:44:45

Great to see to-do lists as long as mine!

I'm not very skilled at DIY and have to get better due to severe lack of money.

Sadly most of the jobs that need doing in my house are for professionals - electrics and plumbing - but I do what I can. It's a bit of a money pit but like you OptimisticOlive I want to make this place mine - good therapy and I'm sure it'll be worth it in the end.

I've made a start and bought myself a sander smile

Mum2Fergus Thu 25-Apr-13 20:08:52

Ooh can I pull up a chair?! Moved to new (well, new to me!) house end Feb. Here is my current to do:
- Fireman Sam bedroom for DS... have one wall left to strip of gloss covered anaglypta grin( have new bedding, accessories, etc ... and off work from Tue to get stuck into it!
- bathroom only had shower but have put in bath. Need to sort out some storage and find some tiles to fill a couple of gaps where the old shower cubicle was

Another newbie here (well to this thread anyway!).
I am completing on my first ever home tomorrow and its a complete do-er upper! I have given myself 7 days to do the following work (and draughted in family, a plumber and an electrician):
Rip out all the laminate flooring
rip out kitchen
remove artex ceilings x2
remove false wall x1
remove false ceiling x1
scrub all wooden floors
paint all ceilings white
Decorate DS room
move radiators and washing machine plubing
install extra plug sockets & replace kitchen lighting
Start to install freestanding kitchen
buy cooker
buy fridge/freezer

Longer term:
Strip wallpaper and decorate in 5 rooms
take off tiles in ground floor shower room, decorate and turn in to utility room
strip doors
strip and re-paint woodwork
refit bathroom
replace some doors
landscape garden
paint outside of house
upcycle furniture
tons more!

Oh god Im feeling exhausted just thinking about it!

LPlateFlyer Fri 26-Apr-13 00:39:07

Yikes Prudence!!! That's a huge list for 7 days!

Welcome Minimalist and Mum2Fergus (and anyone else I haven't mentioned by name yet)

Well I have discovered the next problem - steam from the dryer has put damp in the wall! A hole was drilled into the wall, and I attached the dryer outlet hose to it. But I didn't even think about sealing it or pulling it all the way through to the outside - so it looks like I've been putting steam into the cavity for over a year. Major OOOOPS!!!! I didn't noticed because it was behind a permanently open door, and other things.

Noticing now as I've had to clear everything to give the washing machine repair man room.

Sooo, how long for the damp to dry after I manage to fix/seal the hole in the wall (somehow)???!!!

Tizwozliz Fri 26-Apr-13 09:43:10

I started slowly yesterday, I put up a hanging basket and that's about it!

Brugmansia Fri 26-Apr-13 11:45:49

I currently am sorting out the fun task of finance. We're remortgaging to release some equity to pay for the next lot of building work (back extension for family bathroom and utility room). Fingers crossed it should be fine. It's just tedious having to sort out paperwork.

I've been cheering myself up by ordering samples carpet for the hallway and stairs. Our house is tall and skinny with lots of stairs so it would be really nice to have something that looks really good and makes a bit of an impact. It will be the last job to be done though so at the moment I'm looking at the fantasy options for ideas. Nearer the time I can come back down to earth and look at the realistic choices (unless we magically have enough money left).

LPlateFlyer Fri 26-Apr-13 11:56:22

Ugh, finances. Glad it's you not me Brugmansia. I like looking at carpet samples - but we will only need carpet for the stair case and upstairs laneding so I will probably be keeping it neutral to match the wooden floors downstairs.

I'm washing machineless until Tuesday now. So will have to waste a morning at the Laundromat when I had planning on doing some DIY.

just picked up the keys to the house and now having palpitations at the amount work i need to do. must remind myself to take one day at a time. i do have a habit of rushing head long into things and wanting done NOW grin (or even better, yesterday). not going to happen with this house, mostly due to lack of finances - eek!
image just going to focus on ceilings and floors this week

Mum2Fergus Fri 26-Apr-13 22:18:04

Evening all smile well thats me finished for a week holiday! Plan on shopping tomorrow for remaining few things for bedroom then fit wardrobe interior. Also need to think about carpeting.

NumTumDeDum Fri 26-Apr-13 22:34:49

Ooh this looks like the thread for me. We're renovating (very slowly) a 1930s terrace. Complicated by the fact that I wasn't able to find a job before relocating and then fell pregnant with DS. This house hasn't been updated since the 50s. So far we've had to knock down the lean to at the back of the kitchen for damp. I had earmarked it for a utility room but once it was knocked down we decided a conservatory would be nicer. 12 months on it's still not finished but the end is in sight. DP installed a heat pump last weekend which is now working (heats when cold/cools when hot). He has as a result finally finished the plasterboarding and now we're waiting for the plasterer to come and give us a quote for skimming. Other work needed is too numerous to list.

MoreBeta Fri 26-Apr-13 22:41:43

We just bought our forever house. Never owned a house before, never done DIY before. I rang John Lewis and asked them to come and do it for me.

Apparently they are going to send people to do the kitchen, bathrooms, carpets, tiles and carpets. I asked if they did painting. They said no. I know a local firm that does painting and carpentry though so will ring them and they can also put in the two toilets we need.

Hopefully thats all sorted then. What could possibly go wrong? grin

Mum2Fergus Sat 27-Apr-13 08:19:18

Beta, from my experience...everything! Watch your costs for starters; who is managing all the contractors; have you seen the project plan for any of the works?

flow4 Sat 27-Apr-13 08:34:20

Hello, I may be joining you soon... I'm just deciding whether/what to offer on a house that needs loads of work: 2 walls removing and RSJ, new plumbing and electrics, new kitchen and bathroom, total redecoration, new porch... To say nothing of the garden room and loft conversion I also hope for!
So... Does anyone wish they hadn't?!

Mum2Fergus Sat 27-Apr-13 08:38:20

Welcome Flow...regrets, no, cant say I have. Only moved in here February and everything needs doing! Id be one for tackling everything right away usually but it feels right to pace this one a bit. Plan on being here for a long time!

Tizwozliz Sat 27-Apr-13 08:58:55

I have had times (normally when I've been grouting floor tiles at midnight or similar) when I think why didn't we move into somewhere ready done.

At more rational times though I know it was the right decision for us and I get a huge amount of satisfaction from sitting in my kitchen and thinking 'I did that'

I also found taking before and after photos helped, as we'd slave away and then my mind would trick me into thinking we hadn't really achieved much until I reminded myself what things looked like before.

Mum2Fergus Sat 27-Apr-13 09:13:46

My last 2 houses were new builds, never again. Didnt matter what I did or how much I spent...they remained character-less shoeboxes. Ive been taking photos as I go with DS room as suggested really works in keeping me motivated!

So today will just be shopping for some things I need for getting stuck in next week. DS has a party at 2 so cant really start too much. If it stays nice I'll do some work in garden when we get back.

flow4 Sat 27-Apr-13 09:56:02

Thanks Mum and tiz. The 'being there a long time' feeling is important. In fact, it was imagining myself still there, happy, at 70, that made me decide it might actually be worth the effort!

Tiz, the photos are a really good idea. I wish I'd done it when we did the attic and replaced the kitchen in my current house...

wonkylegs Sat 27-Apr-13 10:58:18

Fingers crossed we're moving in the summer to a lovely house which in our wisdom we have decided to do a lot of work to.
We've roughed out a budget and figured this into our costings with a fair whack of contingency.
We're doing the following
New roof
New timber double glazing (conservation area)
Roof insulation
Rewiring and some new lights
New boiler, 3/4 new rads & TVRs throughout.
New kitchen & utility
Knocking down wall between loo and bathroom
Fitting two new bathroom suites
Removing 1 fireplace (it's in terrible condition) and a few random sinks dotted around the house
Extension for an office
Decorating throughout
Wooden floors downstairs
Built in alcove shelving
New loft hatches
God it looks a lot written down
I'm excited and terrified in equal measures

MoreBeta Sat 27-Apr-13 21:43:30

Mum2Fergus - we havent got to project planning stage but I did focus a lot on that issue in my initial discussion and will do so throughout.

It is a very important issue for me. I will be quite demanding on a very clear project plan otherwise it will be chaos.

mamapants Sun 28-Apr-13 19:57:10

Can I join too.
We got keys to our project 10 days ago.
So far the OH has removed all carpets, doors, curtains radiatorsm
taken down ceiling in what will be our kitchen, removed wallpaper, knocked down massive built in cupboard
Taken down ceiling in study.
Taken down two built in cupboards in livingroom, removed wall between room and stairs, taken down ceiling
Removed old kitchen from our future bathroom, taken down ceiling, ocked off plaster.
Removed floor in bedroom 3.
Knocked down utility.
Removed ceilings, plaster in bedroom 1 and 2. Taken down wall and done studwork for wall in new location.
Phew... Tired just thinking about it.

I did all the finances and dealing with solicitors and banks and estate agents though.

My family came to help today and we managed to:
Rip out most of the flooring
remove a false wall
remove a false ceiling
start stripping wallpaper
rip out kitchen
knock out plaster board wall in Kitchen I had no intention of ripping out but my dbro got over excited hmm grin Did reveal an old fire place though.
Started to skim a ceiling

All of the above was achieved in 3.5 hours with a toddler running about! I mostly watched and muttered as each revelation will cost more money!

Tomorrow we will:
Finish skimming ceiling
Finish striping wallpaper in master bedroom
Scrub and clean wood floors
remove last 2 rooms of flooring
Potentially level kitchen floor
Possibly start painting

Fiddlestickler Mon 29-Apr-13 00:25:15

Marking my place for if when we get the keys to our new house!

This is what we propose to do:
Knock down sun room and extend kitchen
Replace units and remodel
Replace bathroom - possibly make bigger
Build new bedroom over extension
Extend lounge
Level driveway and widen entrance

This is going to turn into a ten year project though because we only have funds for the kitchen extension depending on how much money the estate agent screws out of us . Or maybe just the bathroom... I'm trying to decide whether the ancient bathroom or the small kitchen will annoy me more!

Aethelfleda Mon 29-Apr-13 14:16:40

wow pru, I am in awe!! ThoUgh things are always quicker with lots of you. Love the overenthusiastic dBro!!

Yesterday I mended our garden bench (it needed the planks re-screwing), and spraypainted our bench and patio chair frames, much smarter now as all shiny, and I used rustoleum spray in a nice racing green (it's £12 a can but is fab as it covers metal, wood and plastic and stays on v well). Have already varnished the patio table and chair seats but could do with another coat.

Also painted the back doorstep and garage back doorstep with black Dulux Weathershield: I should have shares in that stuff! It goes on very easily.

Lastly, I resealed the top of our tiling in the ensuite as it had started to detatch from the wall so I (ahem) cheated and filled the holes/cracks with no-more-nails blush. Should keep it in one piece.

And today I have (gulp) hit the credit card with an enormous bathroomage order from our friendly local trade supplier. Two showers plus enclosures, trays, new bidet and new sink will be ours very soon. My savings pot, she is creaking.....but will be SO worth it when I can step into a loverly hot shower in a few weeks time! it all arrives in a few days, v excited!!

mamapants Mon 29-Apr-13 15:17:24

So went to meet up to discuss kitchens today. And they are going to price up a few options for us. Including 2 larder units, american style fridge, dishwasher etc. And incorporating the rangecooker we have already.
He's also going to price up different worktops so laminate, maia, wood block and granite. Am hoping to get granite but not sure our budget will stretch.
Am after a mix of oak and cream units I think. We are going to have an exposed beamwork ceiling in the room so think it will be nice to have wood carried through.
What are others thinking of doing in their kitchen?
Or for those of you who's kitchens are done already what is great/ what would you change?

mamapants Mon 29-Apr-13 15:27:24

Excellent news about bathroom Aethel. What are they like?

Aethelfleda Mon 29-Apr-13 19:06:19

Well it's a bit crazy as due to the house layout we have three (!!) my old house was a 3 bed terrace with one loo but moving out of a city gives much more bang for your buck, which is why we hardly know where to start!! The family bathroom is bath plus loo plus sink and that's ok (well now I've actually sealed the bath and put up a towel rail it is . Who doesn't seal their bath, fer goodness' sakes?) the other bathrooms both have unusable (leaky) showers. I can't afford new ceilings, so we are replacing both showers totally. The overall theme is white click flooring and mid-height tiles, we are going for two Mira showers , one electric and one mixer, so that if the boiler packs up at least one shower will still work. We have a combi boiler, so it also means we can have a bath and someone else shower at the same time (in future this will be important as we have 2 DDs!) we're having Lakes corner entry enclosures as the plumber recommended them for longevity. I'm hoping that we can retain as much flooring and tiling as possible as we have spent the budget pot. Also rabidly hoping the joists are ok when the old showers are ripped out (eep...)

Oh and kitchens: don't have the fridge directly behind the kitchen door! We do and it's a right pain (but no cash to redo at the moment and rest if kitchen is in ok nick.) and fantasy shop for a range cooker: I had to leave my teknik range behind (sniff) but there are amaaazing french enamel ones out there....for a cool 4 grand....<dreams and dribbles slightly>

Aethelfleda Mon 29-Apr-13 19:14:47

Oops , mama, just seen you already have a range. Other thing I love is a "flow area" as in a natural part of the kitchen where you can cook/prepare without pushing past people/crossing kitchen repeatedly.
So a fridge then chopping/prepping area then cooking area all next to each other. Ooh and underlights that illuminate the worktop. They are SO on my list. Not that I have a list. No siree. Kitchen's just peachy. sad

LPlateFlyer Tue 30-Apr-13 14:16:33

Hi everyone! Gosh, take off for a few days and it all happens!!!!

How about I do a bit of a round up? Figure if I do it weekly we can keep up with what everyone is doing.

Tizwozliz - had booked a week off to do finishing bits like under kitchen unit plinths, skirtings and some paint stripping and painting, and has made a start with putting up a hanging basket – a perfect start in this nice weather!

Brugmansia - is in the middle of renovating and getting quotes, and has an almost completed loft extension, and is in the middle of the fun job of choosing tiles for the shower room

poocatcherchampion - will join in once she gets the keys to her new place

betterwhenthesunshines - wanting builders to finish properly, and has finished walls ready for painting. Is now planning on making curtains and blinds next.

Aethelfleda - has recently moved into her ‘forever house’ and is planning lots of work. Has managed to put up 5 bookcases, and done some outdoor bench repairing and other outdoor work (and a little short cut on fixing tiles!). Well done! (And we have bathroom envy of your 3 bathrooms!)

OptimisticOlive - is stripping her house and making it all hers and has an impressive tada list on a shoe string budget. Well done!

Papalazaru - is in the planning stages of a renovation

SadOldGit - Extension is almost completed, and has a healthy looking to do list.

MinimalistMommi - has a large to do list including relocating a staircase, and putting in a new kitchen.

Jidget - has bought herself a sander – a great start (I love these gadgets!!!)

Mum2Fergus - in the process of doing a ‘Fireman Sam’ room for her DS, and has put in a bath in her bathroom.

PrettyPrudence - is making us all dizzy with the work she and her family are getting through.

NumTumDeDum - has an almost finished conservatory and a new heat pump installed – sounds lovely!

MoreBeta - is being wonderfully optimistic. grin

Flow4 - is deciding whether to make an offer on a house. Gwan, you know you want to join us! wink

wonkylegs - has a great to do list planned for when they move into their house in summer.

mamapants - her DH has done an impressive amount of work in the 10 days since they got the keys to their new house, and is now having a few kitchen options priced up. Very exciting!

Fiddlestickler - is marking her place with a nice to do list for when if they get the keys to their new house.

I have spent more time outside in this lovely weather on the weekend. When cleaning the pond we managed to put a hole in the pond liner so we took the plunge and bought a new pond – the solid sort – and put it in where we actually WANT the pond to be. Spent Sunday gently transporting plants and newts into their new home. Waiting for some rain now as the pond isn’t quite full and our rainwater tanks are empty!

Our washing machine is still out of action, due to the part not arriving. But today is the only day I have at home and DH is travelling this week so not sure how we’re going to juggle that!

Mum2Fergus Tue 30-Apr-13 20:22:33! Finished stripping wallpaper from DS room...prep of walls etc starts tomorrow. Wardrobe/cupboard interior built bar 4 drawers...really pleased with that.

mamapants Tue 30-Apr-13 21:16:19

Wow 3 bathrooms Aethel! We aren't at the bathroom stage yet although we only have one to worry about. But the roof needs to come off the whole back section of the house first! So a little way to go yet. I do have the Lakes brochure somewhere though. Don't really have any opinions on bathrooms yet except going to get a plain toilet with no fiddly bits for easy cleaning!
Thanks for the recap LPlates!perfect weather for working on ponds. The garden at our new plais going to have to wait, house first priority and Ihave to wait for my little one to stop sticking everything straight in his mouth before I can get anhing done in garden!

Jidget Tue 30-Apr-13 21:29:04

You've all been so busy!

I've opened the sander box to check all the bits are in there and to see how it works - progress! grin. It's to prepare my bedroom furniture for painting.

I get frustrated that I can't get on with jobs myself. The first is to decorate stairs and landing and because the ceiling is so high I'll have to call in the professionals.

Once that's done I can make a start on my bedroom (if I can ever decide on colours).

MoreBeta Tue 30-Apr-13 21:56:32

Well I went to see the painter/carpenter and he said he could do everything.

Going to see John Lewis about bathrooms/kitchen tomorrow and they promised to coordinate the whole project for us.

I painted some small blobs of Farrow & Ball on a sheet of plain backing wall paper today and showed DW. They got her approval so thats the paint sorted.

You lot seem ever so busy. Makes me think I'm doing it wrong. grin

spent the last 4 days working hard at the house, getting on to some decorating now and i have painted 4 ceilings today and had the plumber in to cap water and gas so i van rip more stuff out. skip is overflowing! more work is being added to the list - this house renovating salary is expensive and exhausting! grin

my mission between now and Saturday is to paint ds bedroom walls and floor, level kitchen floor, paint kitchen walls and install a couple of units, paint all floors throughout (which need a lot of scrubbing first). i think i have some late nights ahead shock

Mum2Fergus Wed 01-May-13 08:09:30

Off to DS room with sander and filler...I may be some time! Have a great day everyone!!

Mum2Fergus Wed 01-May-13 08:31:15

Just before I go lol thermal underlay...anyone used or considering?!

Tizwozliz Wed 01-May-13 09:23:56

I've only managed a few odd bits in my time off but as Tesco says 'every little helps!' Also just having a good rest and catching up on other stuff means I'm more inclined to do things after work/at the weekend

Just realised the kitchen has been in over a year now and we've yet to actually screw in the oven or the dishwasher blush

I have updated my renovation photo timeline though smile
Kitchen renovation

Aethelfleda Wed 01-May-13 13:37:09

Few Very small things yesterday (but I'm working on the Tesco motto too!): I removed a particularly greasy and old kitchen blind, scrubbed off all the grease/dust from the wall behind, and painted over the marks from the fixings (from a almost-matching test pot but it looks a lot better. Later on I will repaint the kitchen anyway, it's just way down the list)

And finally dug over my first raised bed. I know strictly speaking that's not DIY but we built the raised beds so I will pretend it counts! It's all contributing to making the house ours, so I think that's valid.

Bathroom stuff arrives tomorrow, though the workmen can't all come in together for another 2 weeks so patience is a virtue as I'll have to wait to get it all in!

Oh and I have ordered velux blinds for our top windows as they are bare and I think integral blinds are more child friendly than roller blinds with cords (plus they will look nicer). Oh the vanity blush

And mum2F I've never heard of thermal underlay!

Aethelfleda Wed 01-May-13 13:55:10

PS : I have just bought a secondhand copy of this: Collins cOmplete DIY manual Am hoping it's going to help me along, it's been recommende on here and has tons of pictures....

OptimisticOlive Wed 01-May-13 14:28:30

Wow loads has been going on here since I dragged myself away from my tools! Good work everyone smile

Since last week I have plastered the fireplace (was a gaping black, dusty mucky hole with a broken hearth, the corner of which was broken off leaving the bare soil underneath, which I discovered (can't believe I'm going to admit this in public) my cat had used as a toilet, grim is not the word! The more I am doing the more I am realising that my house was barely habitable before I started all this. I mean, it's not much to ask to not have cat poo lurking in my dining room is it?) I have never done plastering before but it's not as bad as people say (I don't think I would attempt a ceiling though), painted the dining room, had two sockets moved (chased them in myself grin, ripped out dodgy shelving from cupboard understairs (satisfyingly destructive) and had my brother use the wobbliest ladder in the universe to paint my stair well. Just went to visit my new kitchen which is real wood, lovely pine (not the orange cheap looking stuff though) which I am getting second hand and for the absolute bargain price of £500 inc appliances, thanks to a friend putting in a good word for me with her auntie who is ripping it out!!! Still have to pay for fitting but will have a gorgeous kitchen at the end of it, yay!

Jidget, just go for it, you never know until you try, and as long as you're not a massive perfectionist the satisfaction you get from doing things yourself is well worth the odd bit of wonkiness!

olive any tips on plastering? im thinking i might (eventually) skim over the artex on my hallway walls as it will be a VERY long time before i can afford a plasterer! i have had a small go with polycell smooth over stuff and found that ok (but expensive) so might have a go with the real stuff.

Tizwozliz Wed 01-May-13 15:56:07

I found working with pre-mix plaster much harder than working with plaster you mix yourself.

Get a decent plastering trowel
Don't be tempted to mix up too much plaster at once
It's far better if you can get one person to mix and one to plaster

Mum2Fergus Wed 01-May-13 16:51:59

Evening all! Soooo, prep to DS room done (only took the whole day lol)...holes filled/sanded/filled and sanded again. Corners squared, plastered and sanded, ceiling taped, flushed and sanded, all woodwork primed. Guide lines for lining paper done. Carpet quoted for and due to be fitted Monday (cant beat a tight timeline to get your finger out lol). Well deserved night out with DP tonight (dinner and a gig) while DS escapes the dust with a sleepover with his Gran/Papa!

Tomorrow aim to line 3 walls and paint ceiling smile

OptimisticOlive Wed 01-May-13 17:38:10

Pry - agree with everything tiswas said, also get the plaster on and as flat as you can then go back an hour or so later when its almost set and go over it again, pressing really hard with your float and cleaning the float after every sweep. if you're still unhappy with the finish you can get gyproc eazi fill (which pro pasterers hate) but its really really fine and makes a lovely finish which you can sand down easily. I went against all the rules of plastering as I did my fireplace, and wasn't quite happy so I did a skim eazi fill and it looked great, ended up doing a really thin skim over all the walls in that room! Probably totally wrong but its made my old sandy lathe walls look great!

Mum2Fergus Thu 02-May-13 12:46:46

Lunchtime break! Will definitely finish lining walls today smile and may attempt coat of paint to ceiling! Couldnt sleep last night so ended up making flags/bunting for the room...all 20 odd metres of the stuff lol plumber due Sat to put radiator back in and move stopcock which is conveniently (not!) behind the integrated washing machine! Drawer unit moved from bedroom to hall for hats/gloves etc. Right, back to work!

Aethelfleda Thu 02-May-13 21:55:35

I have a garage full of bits of bathroom smile

Today's list was very small due to DS not napping very long:

Changed the front door Yale lock (been on the list a while)
Ripped out a few stupidly coloured rawlplugs that have been annoying me ever since we moved in, and Pollyfilla'd the holes and a small settlement crack.
Started to bolt our bookcases to the wall (and then DS woke up, sigh).

Oh least we are closer to the showers of our dreams!...

Mum2Fergus Fri 03-May-13 09:26:19

Morning all smilemy to do for today:
- another coat of paint to ceiling
- 2 coats to 3 walls
- paint woodwork
- possibly mural (will see what time I have as instructions recommend doing full wall at same time!)
- wash/iron new curtains and bedding

MoreBeta Fri 03-May-13 15:43:02

Right - I need the wisdom of MN.

Which one of the following options do I choose:

a) pay £3,000 to refurbish and change the front and top of an AGA because I dont like the colour and the top is all scratched; or

b) rip it out and get a £500 credit towards a more sensible cooking machine?

Mum2Fergus Fri 03-May-13 16:59:51

Did all my to do list except mural, keeping that wee chestnut for Sat! Used time wisely light up, curtain rail up and built toy storage unit grin

Mum2Fergus Fri 03-May-13 17:01:07

Hi Beta...b would be my choice, have never got the whole AGA thing personally.

MoreBeta Fri 03-May-13 18:28:01

Mum2 - no I never got the whole AGA either.

It came with the house and I would not have chosen to install it but its there and its the wrong colour so I have to deal with it..... somehow.

Personally, in my dreams I would have a Miele induction hob and two Miele ovens (one steam) and a Miele microwave but I think that might blow the entire budget out of the water.

redandblacks Fri 03-May-13 18:38:44

You need to tweet that one to middle-class dilemmas!

MoreBeta Fri 03-May-13 21:44:02

redandblacks - I know exactly what you mean.

For the whole of my adult life I avoided buying a house. I havent even completed the purchase of this one yet and I'm already agonising over an AGA, Farrow and Ball paint charts and kitchen units.

Where did it all go wrong?

<wails at the loss of youth> sad

Aethelfleda Fri 03-May-13 23:40:34

Screwed bookcases to wall (yay, can fill them next!)

Also put up the first of our velux blinds. They supplied white instead of beige. fortunately I am not bovverred cos it looks fab and is a heat-reflecty one so is going to be v v v useful.

And filled our first raised bed in the garden (yay). It's all happening....

Aethelfleda Fri 03-May-13 23:42:57

(ps more, what is the "wrong" colour, is it powder pink or lime green?)

I'd paint the rest of the kitchen to complement the aga. But then I think they sound pretty fun to play cooking with. Wouldn't buy one but hey, if it's a free Aga....

Mum2Fergus Sat 04-May-13 08:06:52

Todays todos!
- mural to wall (think Im procrastinating with this as never attempted before lol)
- see if carpet can be fitted earlier than Monday (help me get my finger out)
- finish new robe interior
- good clean
- start moving DS back to his room...yay!!

WhereMyMilk Sat 04-May-13 09:08:23

Morning all!

Can I join?

Am in the process of doing up 5 bathrooms-may the saints preserve us but I thought getting them all done at once was a good thing!

Downstairs pink monstrosity ripped out and replaced, daughter's en suite finished apart frOur en suite would have been finished but I decided when the units vanity units had been fitted, that I didn't like them
blush They will not be wasted though-planning on using them in the shower room have yet to make in the loft!

Family bathroom probably 60% done-plumbers ripped out airing cupboard to make a space for a shower.

sassytheFIRST Sat 04-May-13 09:13:31

Hello, all.

We are about half of the way through a complete renovation project on our forever house.

So far we have (workmen have done most, DH project managed and done bits, I clean up...)

knocked out and re-built all internal walls upstairs to reconfigure bedrooms
taken out staircase and built new one in better place
replaced a bathroom
knocked out dining room wall to create a big dining kitchen
built a stud wall to create a small study
plastered and painted upstairs
tiled bathroom

still to do
carpets in kids bedrooms going in this fri
finish ensuite and tile, flooring in both bathrooms
new kitchen - July date for this
build a small extension to living room, then stud wall to split living room into main room and snug
plaster and paint throughout downstairs, carpet etc.

The worst aspect so far has been living with the inlaws for the past 7 weeks but thankfully that's about over - moving home next weekend I hope!

MoreBeta Sat 04-May-13 11:12:03

Aethelfleda - I could live with lime green but dark blue is just hard to match with the rest of our planned decor and frankly I dont want to plan my entire paint scheme around an AGA.

On top of that its a small galley kitchen at the back of the house but the AGA sticks right out so its the first thing you see as you enter the front door, makes the kitchen hideously hot, has no extractor above so steam and smoke also just collect in there. It doesnt even heat any hot water so it isnt a back up for the boiler. Its got to go.

Aethelfleda Sat 04-May-13 13:59:25

You don't like blue that much? Really?? Well fair do's, it's your kitchen. I totally see how a galley kitchen would not suit it, and if you don't want it to be the focal point then it sounds like it's out. Can you remove and flog it rather than trade-in? Would have thought ebay/gumtree could get a fair whack in resale value and then that's £££ to replace it with something you like?

Aaand just sorting out our many many books when DH calls me over to a suspicious looking pile of yellow dust that has appeared by the back door. Looks as if the tiling has loosened and pulled off bits of crumbly plasterboard where the back door has slammed in the wind. Arg. That's the next job then!!

<wonders if it's possible to have a house entirely constructed of No More Nails>

Aethelfleda Sat 04-May-13 14:03:41

Oh and Hi Wheresmymilk... wow! I bow to your superior bathroomage! i must say you're brave not to hold back one for general use while the rest are renovated...

(This reminds me of one of the Larger Families threads where everyone declares how many DCs they have. I wonder if someone on thread has a guesthouse and will chip in with eight ensuites? There was a former B&B for sale near us when we were househunting that literally had a loo in every room...can you imagine ripping that lot out?!?!)

Mum2Fergus Sat 04-May-13 16:19:05

Mural done ('easy to hang' my considerable ass!), really pleased with it grin plumber been and moved stopcock. Reflector foil behind radiator and its back on the wall. Carpet cant be done til Monday so not much more I can do in there...must start planning front room now! Happy Bank Holiday Saturday folks!!

Mum2Fergus Sun 05-May-13 09:31:43

Day off for me inside today..if weather keeps up I'll head to store and invest in some garden gear, lawnmower, strimmer and a spade! Never had my own garden before, and this one is huge!! No idea what to do with it or where to start!

Aethelfleda Sun 05-May-13 15:15:21

Last night We cracked open the Collins DIY manual and I swapped over DS's light switch as the old one was cracked. Then managed to clean the connections/replace bulbs to get all of our downlighters working in the ensuite. I don't get why downlighters are so popular in new housing: they eat electricity, the halogen bulbs get hot, the low energy LEDs flicker unless you pay to replace them with special LED drivers...who on earth would put them in realises builders would cos they are cheap, and sighs we have far too many of the blighters.

And have made a start on clearing some of the Eeevil Ivy of Eevilness that has been let loose in the hedge for donkeys years. I think the previous owners really liked ivy.

Is it just me or does everyone get halfway through one job and then "see" another?! I am scared to actually make a real to-do list a lot of the time as it's all so neverending.....this thread isna great motivator though!!

How did I miss this thread until now?!? grin

We are in our first and hopefully only house. Been here a few years, and it's still a constant project. It was two flats (previously a house) and we've been converting it back. Since we started we've added central heating, replaced the windows, had all the outside walls repaired, and had the driveway sorted out so it's now all one level and just concrete, rather than a mix of concrete, tarmac and gravel. We've had the hole in the roof fixed, and turned a single skin wall in the lean to, to a cavity wall so we have a conservatory. We got a new bathroom fitted in the main bathroom as we just had showers, no bath. Got our lovely plumber to plumb in the new suite, and a family friend to re-tile. I ripped out the shower, fixed the ceiling, ripped out the tiles (very theruptic) and fitted the new lights myself. Was rather proud. blush

Now, we are in the process of having a new shower fitted in the small bathroom (we've just chosen tiles, and had the bathroom re-plastered) I was going to re-tile it myself, but DH was worrying about it as I'm pregnant with DC2, so we'll be having someone in for that. sad I do, however, get to take out the rest of the cupboards from what used to be the upstairs kitchen, and refit whatever I can salvage downstairs as a utility area, and entirely redecorate small bathroom, and the upstairs ex-kitchen-soon-to-be-nursery! DD and I chose paint colours today, and I'm planning on roping her in to help.

DFIL will be helping (or rather doing, with us assisting) to change the countertops over in the kitchen so they finally match, and we'll have room to re-install the washing machine, which has been in the upstairs ex-kitchen until recently. Then I can clean the walls and repaint the kitchen. Also need to repair the main bathroom door, and finish off the woodwork in there.

We also need to knock down the rest of the dividing wall in the hallway, redecorate in there, and the dining room, and get new carpets, but that can wait a few years, or until the current carpets aren't safe.

After that it's the garden, and we're done!

Now that we're axpecting DC2, we've had to crack on with getting quite a few bits done that we've been procrastinating about saving for, so we're leaving in a bit of a building site again. I keep telling myself it will be lovely when it's done, but it's so tiring, and I've been getting pretty fed up of having 2 rooms completely out of action, and boxes of stuff everywhere. We're waiting for plaster to dry, so I can't even crack on with stuff over the weekend, just removing the cupboards, and putting up the garden fence. Any and all survival tips to help me keep my sanity, gratefully received! smile

Wow, that was an essay, sorry! blush

Mum2Fergus Sun 05-May-13 17:23:25

Jeezo Mrs Mango...I feel quite ashamed of my meagre efforts hmm lol all relative I guess! I intend this place to be forever home (lottery win aside!). Did very little today...prep for carpet arriving tomorrow, sort through DS clothes in readiness for moving all to his new fitted robes. Double sided tape around window to fit blackout blind that I will trim and sew tomorrow.

We were probably a bit ambitious when we bought the house to be honest, it needed quite a bit doing, and every time we get a job done we find another problem, or the roof falls off! We're very lucky in that we have a big family with lots of varied skills, so we get help. Sounds like you're a lot further on than we are, Mum2Fergus. I can't wait until we get to the point where it's worth getting new carpets. <looks about for green eyed smiley> grin

Mum2Fergus Mon 06-May-13 07:47:27

Todays todos!
- carpet being fitted at 10am
- refurnish and dress room
- trim and sew blackout blind
- get my room to resemble some form of order again
- start planning for starting my room in a few weeks!

How'd the carpet fitting go, Mum2Fergus?

We decided to sort through/clear out our clothes, starting yesterday evening. Managed to clear enough space so that the regular bedding/towels have somewhere to live for the time being, so our bedroom is looking less like a warehouse.

Clothes gone to clothing bank, bought extra wood to use as driving tool for fence posts, and collected mallet from ILs. So for the rest of today we will be putting up the fence in the garden, and stripping out the now empty cupboards from the ex-kitchen.

Mum2Fergus Mon 06-May-13 15:48:37

DS room finally complete! 2 bags to dump and 4 to charity shop following clearout while putting things back in his room and getting our room back in order. On to planning next room!!

wonkylegs Mon 06-May-13 16:10:59

Aethalfleada LED bulbs for downlighters don't all flicker. There is a huge range of quality in the bulbs currently available and it can be hard to find really good ones. The best g10 ones we bought annoyingly had the manufacturer go bust immediately after we bought themangry but we've got other ones that are ok. I agree some are awful but it's worth trying different makes to get good light replacements that don't ramp up your electricity bill.

Aethelfleda Mon 06-May-13 20:19:08

Thanks for the encouragement wonky! I've done a bit of web crawling and it seems that replacing all at once in a circuit with LEDs can make the wattage too low for the transformers to like it, I've checled our transformers and they want 20-60 kW for ideal functioning. So I have one LED bulb and 3 normal ones in our kitchen (sigh). Trouble is I found some great G10s from LEDHut (the screwin ones), but most of our downlighters are MR16 (push in terminals) and the little blighters jusr seem pickier. Our to do list is so huge I'm goong to concentrate on gettimg them all working with normal bulbs first, then room by room get it all lower energy. At least most of the rooms have more normal screw or bayonet fittings that actually work...

And the weekend has seen me fit another velux blind and change the handle on the back door, and with DH we have replaced two dodgy fence posts and ordered new panels for them (yerk it's all adding up).
dH keeps looking at me and raising eyebrows at all the expense, and some days I think we're crazy for doing the house up when it's not that bad, but I wants it to be lovely to live in, I do!

Mum2Fergus Mon 06-May-13 20:59:29

Argh! Cant get blackout blind to stay up! Hook tape of velcro attached to frame using double sided tape but not securing it, so blind falling down...ggrrrr!

Aethelfleda Mon 06-May-13 21:19:00

What are your frames made of mum2F? i had similar issues with my net curtains not affixing to the uPVC frames (had sticky hooks that weren't). I eventually screwed several mini cuphooks into the plaster and hung the net hangers from that. Seemed to work...

Mum2Fergus Mon 06-May-13 21:34:04

Its uPVC window frames.

LPlateFlyer Tue 07-May-13 12:48:02

Wow, lots going on here in the last week!

Aethelfleda - I completely agree re downlights. My builder tried to persuade me to have them and I refused. They are so expensive to run! And if the wiring isn't perfect you can be constantly replacing them. In the last house we rented there were a few sockets we gave up on because the lights would only last a couple of months.

Besides with all the new gorgeous light fixtures to choose from, why would you limit yourself so much? Which? magazine has a review on low energy bulbs and I used that to go and choose different ones. You have to be really careful because 1 brand might have X wattage one which is brilliant, but then Y wattage would be really bad.

On Saturday I did more sanding and puttying on the stairs and in the upstairs landing. Took the door off the DS's room and DH undercoated it. DH also did some puttying in the main bathroom, to get it ready for painting. Today I have started to undercoat the bannisters - such a slow job, so much to do! But I am really look forward to a lovely entrance so will persevere.

Aethelfleda Wed 08-May-13 18:49:27

Today I have rehung the front door lock so that it actually deadlocks properly. We have also got our fence panels for replacing the fence, so the next job with that is to remove the other theree panels and screw in the holding brackets for our new lovely panels to go in. Baby steps!

Mum2Fergus Wed 08-May-13 19:01:14

Evening all smile quiet couple of days from me! DS lives his new room so it was all worth the effort! Some wee jobs to get round to:
-cabinet to put up in bathroom (do I really need a tile bit, or will a normal one do?)
-remove rawlplugs left behind from removing shower cubicle
-find some tiles to match gap left by said cubicle
-new stopcock in storage tank in loft (hopefully will resolve constant drip from outside overflow)
-proper plan and start getting in supplies for main bedroom
-plan and supplies/equipment for garden works (in the hope of a few more nice days lol)

MoreBeta Thu 09-May-13 09:47:26

Oh Gawd!

I have now owned this house for a whole 43 hours and its gone pear shaped already! I just want to send it back and get a refund.

I have discovered an entire walled off room inside the house. Not on the plans, totally walled up. No door, no window and it is about 2/3 full of 'stuff' right up the walls. A proper big room as well, not an understairs cupboard. The builder was with me and confirmed I was not going loopy. We both saw in to it through the air brick. The room above smells awful.

The west wall is running with water from an unkown source and the upper floor has mysterious circular cracks in the plaster symptomatic of a collapsing structure but the builder can't see why.

I just wanted to buy a house, slap a bit of paint about, mow the lawn and live happily ever after but this is going to take a bit more than a Farrow and Ball Colour chart and some curtains.

<tries to remember why owning your own home is better than being a tenant>

Done nothing here the last few days as I've managed to catch some bug or other. Driving me potty not being able to crack on, I'm a bad patient!

DD has decided that she would like to have the ex-kitchen for her bedroom, and the new baby can have her room, which is still decorated as a nursery. So I'm having fun planning how we can decorate it, and which furniture to get. We will hopefully be doing green and blue walls, hills and sky, with wall stickers to make fairytale castle/dragon scenes. Also means I won't have to redecorate DDs bedroom anytime soon.

Mum2Fergus, I posted on MN a while back asking about drill bits for tiles. 3 said get a tile bit, 2 said a masonry bit was all I needed. I chickened out and bought a cheap tile bit, but it was really easy, very neat holes and no damaged tiles. I was warned about making sure they weren't porcelain tiles too.

<hands wine to MoreBeta> I know it's early, but it sounds like you need it. On the upside, extra room! Think of all the things you could do with it, pantry, utility room, walk in wardrobe, games room, playroom for children.

MoreBeta Thu 09-May-13 10:49:44

Upside? Upside!!!

I'm thinking forensic squads with face masks and white overalls, blue and white tape flapping in the breeze, Sky News helicopters, lurid tabloid headlines 'HOUSE OF HORRORS SLOWLY GIVES UP ITS SECRETS!'.

Meanwhile burly looking blokes with West Country accents stood about sucking their teeth and shuffling pencils behind their ears saying things like 'its cost a bit more than we thought for the girders and the scaffolding'.

<rocks back and forth moaning feebly>

TerrysNo2 Thu 09-May-13 11:05:59

More did you have a survey done.

Have been lurking on this thread as we are in the process of buying a doer-upper and so I hope to join you all soon.

Just curious about the downlighter comments, DH loves them. Can someone explain fully to me the issues with them and the alternatives, I'm not entirely sure I follow what you've said above.


<fetches more wine>

LPlateFlyer Thu 09-May-13 11:43:54

MoreBeta - don't panic, you'll be fine! <sticks on a rigid grin and hopes it looks persuasive!!> Perhaps it was a miser who stashed his /her valuables so his/her family couldn't get them? <hopeful emoticon>

Terrys - you need to add up how many downlighters go into a room. If you have 9 downlighters, then that's 9 x the energy use = a heck of a lot of expensive electricity + lots of expensive bulbs. They are hot, so should only be put in if there's good ventilation between the ceiling and the upstairs floor. If there is anything wrong with the wiring, that is a LOT of wiring to work through. You won't know if it's done well or not until you start blowing bulbs regularly. The alternative is a single or multibulb light fixture in the middle of the room, perhaps some wall lights, etc.

I managed to get one undercoat onto about 3/4 of staircase on Tue. Working Wed and today, so won't be able to do anymore until tomorrow. Staircases are a real sod - all those blooming spindles........

FlowersBlown Thu 09-May-13 12:02:31

You can use LED down lighters which don't have these problems. Very cheap to run, although quite expensive to buy in the first place and you need a lot as the beam doesn't have a wide spread. We are putting 14 in our not particularly large kitchen on the advice of the electrician.

MoreBeta Thu 09-May-13 12:18:03

Terrys - be warned. Add 25% to whatever you think you need to do up a house.

Yes we had a survey from a Listed building specialist.

The cracks were behind furniture and dont show on the outside of the house or the chimney stacks. The builder thinks collapsing timbers under the tiles - possibly? The wetness goes through two floors and is behind built in cupboards.

The hidden room is truely hidden. I only became aware of it by standing in the back yard and looking at the ground near the back wall of the house and after a while I vaguely became aware of the outline of a filled in staircase leading down under the diining room.

We need to dig down about 4m through stone, earth and riubbish to get to what I assume will be a door and then tunnel in to the room which we can see has tightly packed household goods, what looks like neatly stacked bricks in front of what I hope will be the door and various unidentified piles of material in there almost up to my eye level. I can only see a tiny bit of the room though and I need to get in as the smell is terrible and I think is something slowly rotting away.

<whistles happy tunes, eyes up bottles of wine in fridge and forlornly hopes to find a long lost antiquity>

LPlateFlyer Thu 09-May-13 15:19:53

MoreBeta - So it's a basement room? Interesting.

You will never believe some of the prices old forgotten things can get. I once sold 5 Hardy fishing catalogues and price lists for £80 to a dealer, so be careful about ditching things without having a good look see!

mamapants Thu 09-May-13 17:53:11

Need to come back and update properly but have to comment that a secret room has got to be the most exciting thing ever. Shame its smelly! But think of the mystery. Me and DP would be so excited if we found a hidden room.
Right think I'm going to have to drive to my house and start digging in hope... Am sure my 10mth old won't mind hanging out in the garden while I shovel.

Mum2Fergus Thu 09-May-13 17:57:48

How mysterious...cant wait to hear more!! Going to be a quiet and unproductive few days from me now Im back at work. Concentrating on researching/shopping for what I need for next room grin

TerrysNo2 Thu 09-May-13 17:58:41

more surely the surveyor should have picked that up?? I would be consisting a claim on his PI insurance if it causes you any issues!

TerrysNo2 Thu 09-May-13 17:58:58

consisting = considering. darn phone

TerrysNo2 Thu 09-May-13 18:05:51

more we have around £40k to start with which is for, in order of priority:

- gutting the place, carpets, wall paper, built in wardrobes
- potential rewiring (although I think this might not need doing)
- new floors (although hopefully restoring original floorboards)
- knocking down one internal wall and rebuilding
- new kitchen
- one new bathroom

everything else will have to wait if necessary. not budgeted fully yet as waiting to get our builder in but I think we'll be OK to start.

what do you think?

TerrysNo2 Thu 09-May-13 18:06:48

oh, I forgot replastering the place and over the artex ceilings.

MoreBeta Thu 09-May-13 19:00:06

Terrys - yes pretty much that is what we are doing but I think you will struggle to keep below £40k unless you are doing most of the work yourself and you get lucky on a few things like floorboards.

Tizwozliz Thu 09-May-13 19:05:30

I think a 40k budget should easily allow you renovate a house with no major structural work (removing a wall is fairly minor) and assuming you're not in London or nearby.

We won't spend anywhere near that much (good job seeing as it would be 40% of the house value) and even getting professionals in for some jobs that we did ourselves would not have added up to that sort of budget.

TerrysNo2 Thu 09-May-13 19:24:57

Hmm, two very different responses! I prefer yours tizwoz (sorry More smile)

More do you mind telling me your expected cost for each of those things?

doglover Thu 09-May-13 19:32:09

Watching this with interest because our proposed renovation list is remarkably similar ........................ smile Our budget is £35k.

MoreBeta Thu 09-May-13 19:43:25

Terrys - well I suppose it is how long is a piece of string question.

They say a kitchen should be 10% of the renovated property value, add on 5% more for bathrooms. Then its £3k for rewiring a fairly small house I heard, then its down to you how much you spend on paint, carpets, cupboards, tiling.

Hopefully you won't need a new boiler or heating system, new roof, replacement windows but things like that can be a nasty surprise. We have had a few already and we have owned our house for only 2 days.

How big is your house, is it a Listed Building?

mamapants Thu 09-May-13 20:04:09

I think 40k seems fair for the work you've listed.

Can't remember everything you've listed.
We've been quoted just under 3k for a complete rewire of a 3 -4 bedroom house and garage. Although suspect that might have an element of mates rates.

Depends what you are planning for kitchen really. We are just trying to decide hw extravagant we're going to be. Quote for granite units has come in at 3.5k so it can add up quite quick.

TerrysNo2 Thu 09-May-13 20:09:07

I think / hope the rewiring won't need doing. We'll find out next week when the survey is done. I don't think it all needs replastering either as the walls looked ok when we checked.

I am going to get the builder to come over when the sale looks more certain and quote for all the work.

Anyone recommend a good kitchen company? I am thinking of getting the carcasses from howdens but really nice doors somewhere. Any ideas?

Aethelfleda Thu 09-May-13 20:11:32

Wow more, that's so exciting! How old is the house, and could you date any of the "stuff" at all? Seems a bit odd to walll off an actual room, if it was done eg 200 years ago there could be aome amazing Victorian stuff in there... Really hope the damp turns out to be containable. Can yoi check with the previous owners/neighbours/local vicar if tue house has any rumours/old stories that may explain the room's presence? And you MUST tell us what happens next!!!

mamapants Thu 09-May-13 20:17:56

I told DP about the hidden room. And first thing he said was 'is it a cellar' apparently it was common place after the war to just brick off the old cellars with whatever was in them or to store anything you wanted rid of and brick it up. I would be very excited to go through it all but would delay me by weeks.

MoreBeta Thu 09-May-13 20:21:13

The house was built 1820 - 25. I have its full history. It was extended at the back and I am guessing the room was closed off something like 30 -50 years ago. The builder who is a bit of a local Listed Building expert thought it might have been the old kitchen where of course servants would have worked - hence cut off form the rest of the house. There might be an old cast iron range/boiler in there but I cant see the wall where that would be located. Goodness knows what else is down there.

Strangely the smell is not so strong to day but it has been cool and windy so maybe it has aired a bit.

mamapants Thu 09-May-13 20:30:54

So to update on our house. DP has mostly been in work this week so not so much to report.
All the old electrics have now been stripped. And another internal wall down in living room- only small doorway into hall thing.
Radiators down.
Ceiling down in kitchen so we can now see the big A frame and beams which we are going to have exposed- think it will look amazing.
Knocked down bathroom. Taken down ceiling and remove insulation in bedroom3.
He's also started digging up the floors done bedroom3.
Oh and taken down plaster work in livingroom revealing inglenook fireplace. And taken off plaster in bathroom revealing lovely stonewall we think we are going to plaster this leaving some stonework exposed. And taken up the quarrytile floor.
He has also roped in some helpers for his next days off.
Have had 2 kitchen companies in and had quotes back from one.
Think I'm keen on getting the granite worktops tbh. Any opinions?
Also had electrical quote, waiting on the plumbing quote. Booked plasterer. Got carpenters booked to do work in 3 weeks time as we will have taken down roof on back 3 rooms and will be putting flatroof on them so need the woods in place ready so roofing all on one level not iggledypiggledy like it is now. After that I should buy a full stop s rather than make ridiculously long sentences!

Aethelfleda Fri 10-May-13 09:28:09

Wow, such exciting stuff! I feel quite lame with my plethora of minor DIy tasks, hope you don't mind them all amidst the major gutting other houses seem to be getting!!!

Plumber/tiler scheduled to arrive Monday to get cracking on our showers/bathroom. Excited but REALLY crossing everything they don't find penetrating damp damage once it's all ripped out...

Have put in the first panel of our new back fence with DH and , miracle of miracles, it a) fitted in pretty easily and b) seems sound. Just the other 7 to go when time/weather permits....

Aethelfleda personally, I love hearing about the smaller tasks. I think hope we're nearing the end of the big tasks, and I'm really looking forward to getting all the smaller bits done. It also helps flag up things we're going to have to do pretty soon, and it's got me wondering if rehanging our front door might help. Bloody thing is wonky and drafty, but it has been up 80 odd years. Was it easy to do?

LPlateFlyer Fri 10-May-13 10:05:15

Aethelfleda - it's the minor DIY things that we need to be MORE supportive of! Major building work is difficult, but it does keep happening simply because it's so big. The minor bits and pieces tend to drag out forever if you don't stay motivated.

No DIYing today. I'm inspired to do some major decluttering. We downsized when we moved to this house (had been renting prior to this) and I haven't really done the best of jobs in getting rid of excess stuff. I just can't keep it all, and it's making it harder to get jobs done because there are too many things around.

Aethelfleda Fri 10-May-13 14:32:15

Ah mango, good question but I didn't rehang the actual door, it was the lock I refitted, cos the old one didn't deadlock and my DIY book reminded me that anyone could have had a key from the old owners... My first attempt was halfarsed not quite right so I re-did it to get it better lined up (and it turns out I hadn't lined up an internal arrow thing correctly blush)
The re-hanging doors thing is something we will be coming too as an enormous way down the extremely long list we want to a) turn our kitchen door so it hinges outwards not inwards, and alsp put bew hinges on the Upvc patio doors as they are a bit saggy.

I guess with an older door you may need to replace the whole thing if it's warped, or at least re-site the hinges as putting screws "a little bit allong" can be tricky if you're not screwing into totally sound wood. Plus if you're listed (I'm guessing not?) then it's all got to be exactly the right stuff. Whereas I may have a dubious new build stuffed full of -yurch- chipboard flooring, but at least I can do pretty much anything to it. Of course I'm a total snob and only do "naice" DIY..... smile

Not listed, no. Mind you, that might have stopped some of the, erm, interesting repairs that we've found. grin

We've already had the lock refitted, the door is secure, just wonky. Our front door is one of my favourite features though, so it will be something I'll be snobby about. smile I think it's going to cost a small fortune to have it replaced with an identical one, so I reckon we'll try re-siting the hinges, but it will have to wait until DC2 is here. I can add that onto the list of jobs for sorting out the hallway.

LPlateFlyer Fri 10-May-13 15:05:22

Wonky how?

You can put a thin sliver of wood (or even some cardboard judging from what I found when taking the doors off to paint!!) under the hinge plates to lift them out slightly if they've dug the holes too deep. Sometimes you're better off chiselling out new places for the door hinges if the old screw holes are too damaged and using the two part filler (we've been using Bonda Décor Fill which is brilliant, but needs a lot of sanding to get smooth) to fill up big holes in woodwork and then painting over them.

Sometimes just stripping some paint off will do wonders, as people seem to paint over and over and over doors and door frames and the paint just gets too thick.

The door isn't at right angles to the frame. It's also bowed very slightly, but that's only noticeable if you're looking for it. It looks like maybe the top hinge isn't in tight enough? The top at the hinge side is slightly higher than at the other side. The door doesn't stick, although I'm sure that'll be next. <sigh>

Rehanging/re-siting the hinges would only be a temporary measure in truth. We will HAVE to replace the door, I'm just refusing to have anything that doesn't look identical.

Aethelfleda Fri 10-May-13 18:07:38

I kmow what you mean about the door being a "feature" mango. Ours is single glazed wood, I was concerned about security and heat loss initially as it's got quite a bit of glazing. But I really like the way it looks, and upvc will not look as nice by a long way. So we've stuck with it and installed thermal door curtains (lovely deep red colour). Not everyone's thing, but they are fab for keeping the heat in (or out) and I'm very happy with how it looks.
I'm having a day off too...may assault the fence again tomorrow...

Mum2Fergus Sat 11-May-13 16:31:59

Nothing doing here except have replaced faulty ballcock in the watertank so no more drip drip dripping overflow grin and stopcock moved to somewhere far more convenient and accessible than behind the integrated washing machine gringrin

Mum2Fergus, someone, at some point, must have honestly thought that putting it there was a good idea! shockgrin

Aethelfleda, over a year ago I made some temporary curtains with some upholstery fabric to keep the heat in. When we get the hallway done, I'd like it all pale neutrals, with deep red details, so your curtains sound perfect! Where did you get them?

We have had a child-free afternoon, and I've started shifting this flipping bug.
So today;
We've (mainly DH) painted the small bathroom's new ceiling with primer,
we've moved the tumble drier downstairs to it's new spot,
dismantled the big awkward cabinet from the ex-kitchen,
and DH has done a run to the dump to get rid of it (and a bunch of other crap.)
I've also finished sorting out the bulk of DDs clothes and have stored them properly by size, to keep or give away when we find out gender of DC2.

We're now having a nice child-free, paint-free, diy-free evening, involving steak and the new star trek movie! grin

mamapants Sat 11-May-13 17:20:42

Well done MrsMango on sorting DDs clothes. I swear all the clothes we've kept of ds' are taking over the house and he is only 10mths old.
I'm trying to sort through things for clothes bins/ charity shops/ giving away so that we don't end up moving a load of stuff we don't need to our new house when we move. But I'm not very efficient.
Today I've met with the man from the energy company to consent to them cutting some ofour trees :-(
So a rowan is going, they are cutting an oak right down and I refused to let them cut the silver birch all the way down so they are going to be cutting one side.
Unfortunately they don't want to cut any of the ones we wanted cutting anyway- including two horse chestnuts and a hawthorn.

mamapants Sat 11-May-13 17:30:23

Oh and mum2fergus I'm jealous of your badly positioned stopcock as its looking increasingly likely that ours either isn't on our land even or if it is it has been tarmaced over! Got the water company coming next week!

Aethelfleda Sun 12-May-13 18:41:49

Right <cracks knuckles>

after a two day break I have screwed in supports for most of the rest of the new fence panels. Plan is to get as many as we can put in place tonight when the DCs are in bed...

Any news about the secret room morebeta?? <excited>

Aethelfleda Sun 12-May-13 22:31:30

Woohoo!! I have just finished screwing in all 7 full fence panels (there is a half one still to replace but DH is going to chop our last new one to the right width and nail it in, as we have to custom make it cos it's a silly size)

My arm is very achey!! (manual screwdriver, auto one was mislaid in the move) but I feel v virtuous.... Next need a dry day to bang on the top widgets and paint it all with wilcos wood preserver.

And in twelve hours my bathrooms will (hopefully) be full of dust and workmen <wibbles excitedly>

Well done on the fences. smile Bet they look nice.

So, are you excited about the work getting started, or about the workmen? wink

Aethelfleda Mon 13-May-13 18:21:12

My workmen are middleaged and bald however they are loverly and seem to know their onions. I now have a mini skip on the drive full of junk and am v happy this seems to be finally happening! If all goes well then it could be done and dusted by the end of the week (yay!)

mango, our door curtains came from a sale in Mostyn's but I think they are in administration so not sure if you can still get them.... They may be web suppliers still....

Mum2Fergus Mon 13-May-13 19:45:53

Does anyone know the name if the contraption used for a door curtain which raises the curtain when you open the door?!

Measured up for wardrobe interior for main bedroom today, will clear it tomorrow and start paint coats over the very dark green paint already in there hmm bathroom cabinet finally up smile currently toiling over door handles..damned expensive!

Aethelfleda Mon 13-May-13 20:44:56

mum2F, I think you mean a riser pole, also called a Portiere

Discovered yet another door handle that needs replacing, wretched handle springs! <puts on the bottom of the ever lengthening list>

Mum2Fergus Mon 13-May-13 21:05:22

Thats the thing! Thank you smile

Well after all the rain we had yesterday, we have discovered that there is a small leak in the roof over the small bathroom. That's the room that's just had the ceiling and parts of the walls replastered and primed. <sob>

Our lovely plasterer/joiner/handyman is hopefully coming over tonight to have a look at it for us, we're hoping it's minor and easily repaired. Going to keep telling myself that at least we've discovered it now, rather than once the room's finished.

TerrysNo2 Wed 15-May-13 13:20:12

Is it just me who wants to know more about more's secret room??

Come on More - we want more juicy details. How many bodies were there wink

Aethelfleda Wed 15-May-13 19:01:26

Nope, terry, not just you!

<puts the kettle on and offers round Hobnobs while waiting for more story>

at this end we have nearly got loverly showers! Just one day's more plumbing and the electric cable smells of vinegar from all the sealant but I'm so glad we got people in for this bit as t'would have been impossible with DS about. Plus rejoice, me joists are OK!!!!

mamapants Wed 15-May-13 19:58:10

Oh no MrsMango, hopefully it will be easily solved.
I am also dying to find out about the secret room.

We now have new windows upstairs! Seems a bit odd putting something into the house as so far we've just been taking things out. Skip number 6 should be arriving tomorrow.
The inglenook is now clear, DP has knocked out all the cement and bricks that they'd filled it up with.
The floor in living room has been dug, bathroom dug. Roof has been taken down from study and bathroom. Hopefully it won't rain too much now.

Well it looks like it's minor damage to the roof, either just the cracked tile that's been cracked for years has finally given up, or there's a nick in the felt just underneath. Should be easily fixable apparently. The tiles are in, in the shower, just needs grouting. Overall it looks lovely, but there's a couple of parts where they're not completely flush. sad DH is going to speak to our lovely plasterer/joiner/handyman and see if he can fix it before grouting.

It also appears I ordered WAY over the top on the tiles. 2 and a half boxes too many! blush At least I can now re-tile around the sink, and the windowsil.

Blimey mamapants, it sounds like it's all go in your new house. Digging floors?! shock I'm going to have to have a re-read of the thread to get up to speed I think. smile

MoreBeta, any news on the secret room? <looks hopeful>

Aethelfleda Fri 17-May-13 22:17:25

I have painted a third of the fence. Then ran out of fence paint blush

Bathrooms coming along well: the workmen have finished apart from the lectrician who's coming next week to wire in the new shower. And I have bought some moisture resistant bathroom paint to give our ensuite a spruce up what with the lovely new bidet, sink and shower. I do need to sealant the floor edges in there too, and replace the bathroom cabinet with a nice new one we got from Ikea. We can use the feed shower when the silicone is all dry <claps excitedly>

I think morebeta has got locked in the secret room......

Maybe the secret room is the Viridian Room!

Good news on your bathroom, Aethelfleda. smile Our shower is now almost all tiled, our plasterer/joiner/handyman is coming back today to finish off. Then we can paint the ceiling, and get the plumber back in to finish fitting the shower, as well as move the kitchen sink and plumb the washing machine into it's new spot.

The bathroom is currently a stoney cream, not yellowish. The floor tiles are soft brown stone, the wall tiles are a pale brown marble effect (called mocha!). The cabinet, toilet seat and shelving unit are all going to be beech, and the suite is white.

We'd just assumed we'd keep the walls the same colour, but I'm starting to wonder if it won't look nicer with white walls. Opinions please?

We've gone for white. Polyfilled, sanded, and got the base coat on. So far it's looking good, nice and clean and bright, not cold and sterile which is what I was worried about, so that's good. DD had great fun helping us paint too. grin

We've also done an Ikea trip, bought a new under-sink cabinet and lots of storage for DH's huge DVD collection. The DVDs will be going in the loft, after DH has finished ripping them to his media centre, so that should give us quite a lot of space back. Sadly I have realised that the under sink cabinet is only "cut out" to fit a sink at the top. I've already trimmed it slightly to fit, so now I'll have to take it to FILs to use the jig saw and cut out the bottom too. Stupid mistake, should have checked before I picked up the saw!

How is everyone else's weekend going? Has MoreBeta escaped yet?

Aethelfleda Sun 19-May-13 22:26:18

We've had a pretty DIY-lite weekend. Can use the feed shower tomorrow as the silicone is finally dry: yay!! I need to compile a proper to-do list but fear it would be depressing... So will continue plodding one kne step at a time instead.

One thing we did manage was to put the final fence panel in place (well done DH who circular-sawed it very nicely to the correct width and nailed the panel edge in). I have now painted our side with Wilkinson's wood preserver (dark Oak, £7 a 5 litre tub, will take four tubs to do both sides of all 8 panels, but hey, it's cheaper in the long run. Internet forums claim that the wilcos stuff is better than the big brands for fence/deckimg so who am I to argue with the wisdom of the net!!!)

My next plan is to fit the final velux blind in the top room, cut away the damaged carpet, paint the new skirting and then get cracking on the new bathroom while simultaneously kicking the electrician.

Mum2Fergus Mon 20-May-13 20:34:44

Evening all smile back at it today! Large cupboard in main bedroom prepped and ready for fitted interior. Joiner rehung door so it opens to right. Electrician been and will quote for extra sockets and porch light. Lovely day so spent some of it outside...3 old rose bushes dug out. Sat for ages just looking at it...huge, well in my mind it is idea what to do with it lol...

Aethelfleda Wed 22-May-13 19:46:49

The showers are finally complete! Loverly loverly hot water was a bit underwhelmed with the flow rate in all honesty, but hey, that makes it eco-friendly, right?

Have urges to painty painty the walls and ceiling but DS didn't want to nap this lunchtime so no cigar sad oh well, at least we have paid all the tradesman so it's DIY from here on in....

Two more cupboards, and the extractor hood have been removed from the ex-kitchen. Three to go then we're pulling up the sound proofing, stripping tiles, wallpaper and patching up the walls. As for the bathroom, I've gotten the splash back and the windowsil tiled, will get them grouted tomorrow, then we can finish off the painting. Plumber is in on Thursday to finish the shower, and the piping in the kitchen so we can have our washing machine back!

Aethelfleda did you manage to satisfy your painty urges? grin

Mum2Fergus Sat 25-May-13 19:26:29

Cupboard/wardrobe interior done...will start filling it up later smile fabric bought to make 2 new roman blinds for bedroom, hopefully nice again tomorrow so can get sewing in the garden! Hunt for feature wallpaper needs to start soon too...have websites for everything else I need. DP can start the wallpaper stripping when hw finishes for hols (teacher) grin

Wardrobe envy! I can't wait to get the new bedroom storage sorted out so I can start moving stuff back in! How easy is it to make roman blinds?

For anyone who's planning on getting things from Ikea, they have a sale starting tomorrow, so worth checking their website. We'll be rushing in to get DD's new bed (Kura).

Mum2Fergus Sun 26-May-13 09:29:40

Oooh...Ikea, love the place! Blinds fairly can buy kits which make it super easy, you just supply your fabric. Or you can make from scratch with cords, eyelets and hooks. Ive used both but have kits this time round as they were half price. Using some old curtains for pair bought for last house but never got to put up...and the blackout linings from an older pair. Search on YouTube, you'll find tutorial videos there.

Aethelfleda Sun 26-May-13 23:28:53

Well, the bathroom ceiling is painted (or attempted at least.) tomorrow will tell if it's streaky (painting under halogen lights is annoying as it's hard to see every corner well)...

And have done 3/4 of the fence painting, just one more pot needed from Wilcos and it will be complete.

My neighbour commented that we had "new house enthusiasm" to do all this DIY. I think he was saying it in a nice way! Certainly it's very pleasant being able to sit and enjoy bits of house/garden knowing all the effort is making it a nicer place to live in.

I'll keep an eye out for cheap blind kits, but the one's I've seen so far don't look much cheaper than buying ready made. I think I might end up making my own. Got a while to think about it though, as it'll be for the landing (long way down the list!), with big door curtains for the hallway. That way I can choose the fabric I want, rather than just what I can find, thank you. smile

Looks like we'll be doing a third bloody coat on the small bathroom as it's still looking patchy. I just want it all to be white! I hope your ceiling is looking better than our walls, Aethelfleda. At least the grouting is finished and looking nice. Hopefully we'll pick up the wooden bits for the bathroom today and get it all finished by the end of the week.

2 and a half hours until Ikea! grin

mamapants Mon 27-May-13 09:14:00

Sounds like you've all been busy.
DP is back at work again. But we've had people in doing the timber work for the new roof which will be on the 3 rooms at the back of the house. Also our new utility room is pretty much built. My stepdad is putting up timber work for the new higher ceilings upstairs. We are raising them so the beams will be exposed.
Also DP has knocked down another wall, as the stone wall was about 4ft deep we are going to have a bit more space in bathroom and study now.

Still eagerly waiting to hear about Morebeta secret room.

mamapants Mon 27-May-13 09:20:58

Also very jealous of all you people shopping for furnishings and painting, we are so far away from that point right now!

But have been looking on ebay anyway! And seen some lovely antique desks which is one of the things on our shopping list. And some nice fireplaces, we are looking for one for the kitchen.

kilmuir Mon 27-May-13 09:23:24

just started 6 months of building work, so will be watching

mamapants Mon 27-May-13 09:35:18

Hi kilmuir, what's your house like? What needs doing?
I have an old stonebuilt cottage which needs completely knocking down and rebuilding quite a bit of work. We are trying to retain as much character as possible though as it really is a beautiful house.
We are also looking at a 6month timetable. And are 1mth (and 8 skips) in.

We got the bed! Last one on the shelf, phew! £49.50 down from £130, so I'm quite happy.

kilmuir Mon 27-May-13 15:13:02

Place has been gutted, plaster off all external walls. Need decent insulation as house over. Ahundred years old and was blooming chilly before.
We are having 2 newbedrooms with en suites for teenage daughters, bigger kitchen, hopefully sunken area off kitchen to lounge in, another reception room, moving hallway, and everywhere else decorated
Not looking forward to it. i am rubbish at interior design stuff. Would quite happily wake up and it was all done for me.
I do worry about getting things right as this is really our only chnace to get it right, costing a lot but could not stay as we were.
The builder mentioned how lovely a balcony would be off our revamped bedroom, we look out over fields, husband spent all last night googling glass balconies!
How do you keep interested in the project?

Aethelfleda Mon 27-May-13 16:33:31

Hi kilmuir, this thread is a great motivator! Your house sounds lovely (as does mama's old cottage)... And we're all waiting to see if morebeta emerges from her secret room with a million pounds of pearls...

We'd have loved an old place but the Georgian four bed pile we tried to buy came off the market (sob) and there were no old exciting buildings in the quite specific area we needed to buy in. We were left with the choice of wait a year to see what came on, or look at newer places. And then our current place had its price reduced and we looked at its newness (shudder) but then realised how much space and potential it had... So we're never going to have a gorgeous low-beamed ceiling (sniff) but do have lots of flexibility and a lovely cool airy place with a huge study that's big enough for the family to grow up in. We luffs our house...

Aethelfleda Mon 27-May-13 16:36:03

And well done on the bed mango! the bathroom ceiling is a bit patchy so off to coat two.... Really hope it will look better after the next one!

Aethelfleda Tue 28-May-13 22:22:50

Finally got around to sorting out the halogen lights in the top level (dressing room/bathroom) and re-fixed the light fitting in the front eaves cupboard (which is boarded so useful for storage). All the lights in the whole house now work!!
<does happy dance>

The ensuite bathroom looks much happier after a second coat of Dulux Bathroom. Next stage is masking taping and then repainting the walls, repainting the windowsill, then putting in our new Ikea mirrored bathroom cabinet and finishing the filling/silicone sealing of the bathroom floor edges. Then the ensuite bathroom will be epic and sparkly!

Congratulations on the lights! Good news on the ceiling paint too. I think our next coat will have to wait until Sunday, which is very annoying as I want it done now! grin We also still have the woodwork to paint, which is my most hated DIY job.

Over the weekend though, we managed to sort out the mess I made of the undersink cabinet and it's now in place and full of cleaning stuff. The cupboard from the ex-kitchen that we needed to go in the actual kitchen has been carefully removed, and DH has ripped up all of the sound proofing and odd panels from the ex-kitchen. Getting there slowly, I just hope we manage to get all the main stuff done before I get too big and run out of energy!

kilmuir your house sounds like it will be fantastic when it's done. We also could not stay as we were. We've been here a few years now and have slowly been plodding through, but are having a big push now as we needed to reclaim the third bedroom for DC2, due in September. As Aethelfleda says, this thread is a great motivator. It's also a good source of ideas and tips. I also keep picturing myself sat in my lovely finished house, with a glass of wine, knowing it's all done! grin

karron Wed 29-May-13 14:02:30

Hello, can I join in please? Am currently getting many quotes to do roof, sort out structural issues and re-render our crumbling new (to us) house. Then I plan to start the next 20 years of DIY.

At the moment just wish everyone would just tell me the same thing rather than all quoting for slightly different jobs! I believe whoever I'm talking to at the time which doesn't help me make any decisions.

Aethelfleda Wed 29-May-13 18:56:21

Hi Karron, welcome on board!

We are all doing different things, Some window-dressing, and others rebuilding from top to bottom. I'm on the drowning in a million small tasks level myself...

<runs to do an Aldi shop to take mind off the plethora of things I * should * be doing...>

New shower is in, washing machine and dishwasher are plumbed back in, and one of the new kitchen counter tops is in. DH and DD have been getting caught up with the laundry, and making the most of the breezy sunnny weather, getting it all dried, while I've been shoe shopping. grin

Hopefully this afternoon we'll get the final coat of paint done in the bathroom, and finish cleaning up the paint that's made it through the sheets onto the tiled floor. sad Tomorrow we'll hopefully have the counter tops finished by FIL, and the bathroom lights and shaver socket done by BIL (have a very handy family, lucky us!) We're so close to having the bathroom finished I can almost smell it, or it's just the white spirit! grin

Aethelfleda Sat 01-Jun-13 17:06:59

Good work mango!

Ensuite bathroom paint is drying! I've changed it from blue to minty spa green, and am reeeally hoping it looks OK when dry as at the mo it's all patchy... Also fillered the edges of the laminate flooring, and will be finishing that off with silicon sealant later. Just gotta sand and repaint the windowsill, put up the new bathroom cabinet and get a feature mirror and then that bathroom is 100% finished!

puts fingers in ears and says la la la about the million and one outstanding jobs in every other room

mamapants Sun 02-Jun-13 22:18:23

Wow seems like everyone is painting bathrooms and our house doesn't even have a toilet in it anymore!
Our latest is 2 new veluxe windows fitted in the pitched roof of the kitchen. And new guttering.
We have also finalised design of our kitchen. We changed the plan and have decided not to have a logburner in kitchen as well as living room. This gives us a much better layout.
We are having oak units, 2 larder cupboards and a white island. We have also chosen our granite worktops and got an amazing deal as luckily no one else likes the granite we chose. Loved it at the stone suppliers all really beautiful.
We are looking at flooring options now and thinking we might go for slate.
And that's about it I think.

Aethelfleda Tue 04-Jun-13 16:16:38

Ooh mama, that's the nice planning side of renovation.
we don't have enough cash for that

Got a nice mirror for the bathroom, so it's nearly done.

Unfortunately my impish DS threw a pot of radiator paint down the stairs today so have to add new stairs carpet to the list. We have insurance but think the excess will make it not worth it, plus it was pretty old anyway. I have (literally yesterday!) splashed out on a Bissell carpet cleaner from the internet, so when it arrives will try it out on the paint (sigh). And I'm SO annoyed at not being able to find anything! The one thing we haven't got nailed yet is storage,

mamapants Tue 04-Jun-13 19:35:08

Oh no Aethel what an imp indeed!
Good time to be expecting a carpet cleaner!
You are right and planning the kitchen has been lots of fun. It is going to be the main room and about a third of the budget is going on it. We are very pleased to be able to get the granite- the first quote we got was twice the price so definitely worth looking round.

Dp is off work tomorrow but is having a day off from the house! But hopefully the new roof will be going up this week.

Aethelfleda Wed 05-Jun-13 20:41:24

Bathroom's done, la la la!

heads downstairs for a victory microwaved batch cooked curry

Bathroom is still not bloody finished! Got the floor cleaned, started on the woodwork, and I finished painting the walls this morning, but we haven't had a chance to do anymore with lots of last minute family things cropping up. This weekend we are finally getting the cabinets, so they'll go in next week, we'll finish off the woodwork, put the curtains up, and bask in the glow of having one room done! Starting to feel very aware that I probably don't have much time left before 3rd trimester exhaustion sets in. Please feel free to kick me up the arse and tell me to get on with it! smile

Aethelfleda did the carpet cleaner work? Tell me how lovely it is to have your bathroom finished. grin

Still no news on the secret room? Maybe it's actually a tardis, and Morebeta is off on an adventure with the Doctor!

Aethelfleda Wed 12-Jun-13 22:41:43

Hiya! Well, the carpet cleaner didn't really get the dried paint off (I did the best job I could before it dried with simple dilution and scraping) but it did get a LOT of general muck/staining out of the stairs and my lounge carpet is in way better nick since I gave it a going over (it's the Bissell clearview, and is going to get a LOT of use I think!!) the stairs still look stained but it's not too awful, we'll just replace the carpet sometime when I'm back to work...

Haven't totally completed the bathroom as just realised i need to a) put up a new loo roll holder, and b) paint the doorframe, but neither of those are urgent. I must say it is lovely having one room that is nice, and calm, and uncluttered, and darn functional!!! Gives me inspiration for the rest of the heap....

Has been a slow week DIY wise: the list is still enormous! But today I am proud as I replaced the mortice lock on the back door ahem, only six weeks after I bought it. Now feel happy as we have a new (as in different to the vendors') lock on both the front and back doors. And tried to fit window restrictors on our windor but the beggars would not fit: I think (sigh) cos the UPVC is a little saggy with age. Will try tomorrow on the top edges and see if that works....

Aethelfleda Mon 17-Jun-13 16:33:15

Bumpity-bump! Has everyone else decided to sell?!?!

We are still plugging away slowly with the DIY. Last tradesman comes tomorrow (to trim the tree), after that we have an optional phone extension re-do (have a quote for that) and that's it, just me and the screwdriver/paint/tools. Seriously need to reorganise the tool storage tho, we have SO many!

Latest thing was putting vertical tool hangers on the garage wall so our manky tool basket is heading tipwards and we now have a neat row of garden tools. Am really hoping they stay on the wall cos the supplied screws and rawlplugs were v cheap and nasty!

And having trouble with the window restrictors: still not managed to sort them out. Will try again later....

Liara Mon 17-Jun-13 21:51:34

Hi, can I join in?

I'm a chronic diyer - on a neverending house renovation project. Feel slightly alone as none of my family or friends so much as pick up a screwdriver if they can avoid it, so would love some company!

Today dh and I have been doing a massive opening for a new french window. It's over 2 metres wide, so fairly hair-raising! Lots and lots of acrows in place...

Aethelfleda Tue 18-Jun-13 10:31:12

Hi Liara! <passes over a brew>

it's been a bit quiet on the thread, but so far there's been a secret bricked-in room at Morebeta's, lots and lots of activity at Mango's and lots of people in and out with various projects in various stages. I'm at the many-many-smallish-tasks stage and have the huge advantage that my house is fully liveable in!

<nips off to google what on earth an acrow is>

Hello Liara. <waves>

We have a week off this week, including today and Thursday child free. Today we have moved the dining room furniture about so we could bring down one of the cupboards from the ex-kitchen, only to discover cable trunking that we'd forgotten about, behind the bookcase. This means we're 4cm short of the cupboard fitting! Now I have to decide if I'm going to try to MacGyver it, or use it elsewhere and buy a different sized one.

The offending cupboard has been dumped in the conservatory for the time being, but at least both the bookcases have been re-organised, with lots of rubbish thrown out, so the dining room is almost tidy for the first time in a couple of months!

Hopefully this afternoon we will be doing the wood work in the bathroom, but we need our man back over to sort out boxing in the pipes. For that we need to have finished ripping everything out of the ex-kitchen so we can get him in to re-plaster at the same time.

Next time I mention we've decided to do 3 or more rooms at once while we stay here, can someone please slap me!

Liara Tue 18-Jun-13 20:36:21

Hi! smile

Acrows are the things that (hopefully) stop the roof from falling on our head as we make a great big hole in the wall.

My project's been going for so long that we have our main living areas complete. However, it is a ridiculously huge rather rambling old farmhouse, so there is still loads and loads to do until it's done.

When it is done it will be far too big for us and we won't be able to face that amount of cleaning, so we'll probably sell up, but in the meantime we're having fun. I love planning new things and getting them started, but I'm not quite so good at seeing them through, so we have lots of different areas in various stages of lack of completion. You may find that I flit around quite a lot in terms of what I'm doing! I have huge lists of many many smallish tasks, so I know where you are coming from Aethelfleda.

Now Mango sounds like she's getting enough done in a day to make me feel blush....

Aethelfleda Tue 18-Jun-13 22:25:31

Well, I'll make you feel better liara, I'm queen of the baby-steps!

Today I was v pleased as during DS's nap I fitted a new loo roll holder (ooh the excitement!), and this evening finally got the window restrictors to work. Fitted four of the blighters. Need to order more now I know they work!.....
And one last velux blind for our top bathroom. And some fencing for our overlooked bit of patio now the tree has been cleared..

He he Liara, sorry! We're not normally this focused, but we have DD2 arriving in September, and a lot that needs to get done before I'm too tired. DD1 is taking the new bedroom (aka the ex-kitchen) to give her sister the nursery. We stupidly decided that as we were having to have the plumber and electrician in anyway, we might as well re-do the small bathroom, add another radiator, and sort out the kitchen while we're at it. This has run into us re-organising the dining room and conservatory too. <kicks self>

I'm actually looking forward to lists of small tasks, as I can do those on mat leave. Especially if the new one likes slings! grin

Didn't get round to the bathroom woodwork, but fitted the offending cupboard into the conservatory and moved the table from there to the dining room, so we now have some functional storage space while we focus on the ex-kitchen. Drew up a plan for where the furniture will go, and had a look around for which bits will fit. Also managed to break the new coping saw, shoddy thing, will be taking it back tomorrow! angry

Seeing as neither DH or DD are awake yet, I think I might make a start with the woodwork now. Here's hoping DD stays asleep for a bit longer!

Liara Wed 19-Jun-13 20:47:48

Well we managed to put up one lintel today.

I blame it on the 9 new chicks that have hatched in the last two days. We've all been down to the hen coop about 17 million times and have a tendency to sit there watching them be clumsy and going Awww...(us not the chicks, they make a right racket).

Aethelfleda Wed 19-Jun-13 20:51:54

Put up the last bathroom cabinet and new bathroom mirror in our family bathroom, and a new towel ring in the en suite while DE napped today. And I've ordered the new window restrictors and a replacement handle for the UPVC that helpfully broke off in my hand the first day we moved in <sigh>

Hope it's all going OK for everyone: updates please!

I still want to know what happened to MoreBeta's hidden room! <wails>

New chicks, I'm jealous Liara. Trying to convince DH that we need a duck or two. Slugs have just devoured his veggie plot again, so I'm feeling hopeful.

So is the bathroom all finished now Aethelfleda? I managed to get all the woodwork sanded and washed down yesterday, just dropped DD at pre-school so I'm about to start painting. DH is going to start loading up for a run to the tip, so the ex-kitchen will finally be cleared out ready for our plasterer, who will hopefully be in next weekend.

Anyone else still about on the thread?

mamapants Thu 20-Jun-13 18:37:29

Hi everyone been a while since been on here and not sure what I updated on last. I'm impressed at all of you getting work done while little ones are napping. I can barely load the dishwasher with ds let alone join in with the diy.
We now have a new roof on the back extensions, and have had plasterer in rendering the rear of the house and started on the upstairs. We have blocked up 2 windows which were tiny and pointless.
Have 2 veluxes in roof of kitchen. And have started chopping down some trees. Think that's about it.
Need to find time to go look at flooring options for the kitchen as our kitchen units will be ready in about 7 weeks so hopefully the kitchen will be ready in time.

mamapants Thu 20-Jun-13 18:48:53

Considering stalking Morebeta to find out about the secret room

I nabbed MoreBeta on another thread earlier, the room is still sealed! The mystery continues.

I got the bathroom painted, DH got everything taken to the tip, including, we think, the brush for the dustpan. We also got the ex-kitchen walls stripped right down, so it's all ready for our plasterer. We also managed to get all DDs toys sorted out by type, some put aside for the baby, and some thrown. Stripping the walls was quicker, she has so much stuff. confused

Plan for tomorrow is to touch up any bits of woodwork I missed, get the unit fitted to the wall, and the towel rails & toilet roll holder in. Then the bathroom is finished! (At least until the other cabinet I want come back in stock grin)

mama, we booked a week off, so DD has been in her usual childcare while we've DIYd. She will happily help with painting the walls though.

Aethelfleda Fri 21-Jun-13 07:17:29

The ensuite is finished! The final touches Of matching loo roll holder/towel ring/towel rail are in, the hot showers are lovely and the room is near and tidy. It's great in there, yay.

I think i may now pick a new room to "tackle" as at the mo skipping all over the house with different jobs.

Yesterday I finished the final fence painting for our back left fence ("ours"). And now that's finished, need to worl out a strategy for our "not ours" fence on the right, our neighbour is meant to sort it but may end up using a disguise strategy if they don't get aroWill be getting some willow panels to screen our patio and probably get some more later in the year if neighbours

Aethelfleda Fri 21-Jun-13 07:19:14

Anyway, which room
To do next? Am thinking prob the family bathroom (just needs a bit of patching up), then the top room (it's a joint study/playroom) as lots to do there.

Sounds like a good plan, get the other bathroom sorted while you still have bathroom stuff around. Also, if it's a small job it gives you time to plan for the next one. What needs to be done in the top room?

We've just been to B&Q again and come back with a cupboard to go in the dining room where the other one didn't fit. As the newer style of cupboard has feet that are set in a bit, rather than just straight down the sides, it should fit perfectly if it knows what's good for it.

Aethelfleda Fri 21-Jun-13 14:27:14

Sigh: I feel like Homebase, Wickes, Wilkinsons and Toolstation are my second home! However, I do feel better now that it's just cosmetic work needed (albeit lots).

dS napped so I put some nice plants in the front border: it's not done by a long shot but putting some french lavendar and red Salvia has given it a bit of instant colour, later I've got some tulip and daffodil bulbs we've had in pots this year and I'll put them in for ongoing flowers next year.

The family bathroom now just needs: silicone sealenting the gap at the edge of the flooring: I bought a plastic edge-filler from wilkinsons and siliconeing it in means the floor will be waterproofed. I also need to (satinwood) repaint the wooden windowsill and the wooden edge of the bath surround (and the wastepipes for the loo as they are a bit grotty).

Then need some patch repairs of the wall paint: it's quite a nice blue but there are holes from previous cabinet screws that need fillering and then disguising, and a sort of weird "feature" design that's half under a cupboard so needs painting over. Hopefully I can match the paint to avoid a complete re-paint (tho if not I will give up and repaint the lot)

The top room needs: carpet cleaning, holes fillering and painted over, pictures and possibly a few shelves up, and repainting of the doorframes and repaint the replaced skirting board and "feature wall" (which has tasteful holes where they painted around the furniture)
. An almighty reshuffle of storage stuff is also needed up there, to finalise what else needs doing, there's also an eaves cupboard that I need to line with ply to stop the insulation hanging out!

The top room sounds like a project, but one I could really get my teeth into. When you say "top room" is it a loft conversion? Our long term plan is to convert the loft into a computer/games room. I would say playroom, but by the time we get round to it, DDs will probably be a bit old for it!

You could try this for colour matching It's dulux colour click, I've not tried it before so I don't know how good it is, or how expensive, but it sounds like they could match the paint exactly. I'm struggling to find the right blue/grey for our kitchen at the moment, as we have blue/grey streaks in the tiles, but sadly not big enough streaks to be able to use it.

Thankfully the new cupboard fitted perfectly. It's now in place, and full of all the bits I had to move out of the kitchen to make way for the washing machine. DH has also had to clean down and fit the door back onto the ex-kitchen as our plasterer has said he might be able to fit us in this weekend, instead of next, as he knows we're trying to get it all done asap. Bit of a slow day though, all in all, as I seem to have trapped a bloody nerve in my back. I've had to leave finishing the small bathroom until next weekend, which is a bit annoying as we're so close!

Liara Fri 21-Jun-13 20:46:36

envy at all this completion of tasks!

We've put the big door up (yay!) and are now paving the terrace around it.

Also putting the finishing touches to the playroom, hopefully will have it finished in the next couple of days. I have two more curtains to finish sewing and a sink to plumb in, and then we're pretty much there...

envy at being able to put in curtains! grin

I managed to get the painting in the small bathroom finished last night when I couldn't sleep, so will hopefully get the fixtures in this afternoon. Plasterer is due any minute to get started on the ex-kitchen, and will be back to finish off on Wednesday, so next weekend we might actually be able to paint it. At this rate we might even have it done before DD2 arrives, which I was really doubting would happen. I've also fixed the door handle on the small bathroom so I can lock it properly. You used to be able to just jiggle the handle about until it opened, even when locked. Now DD1 can't break in and mess up the drying paint.

Aethelfleda Sat 22-Jun-13 09:53:20

Wow liara are you doing your own plumbing? I cheated and got a plumber, admittedly because we needed showers doing too (really well cos the old ones leaked)

Good work on the locks too mango, I'd never replaced door handles/locks before moving here as not needed too (hint: if you're replacing mortice locks, make sure you have chisels to hand before you take off the old lock, they always need some adjusting of the cavity to fit the new one in!)
day off today from DIY as it's the school fair. Then bathroom floor fixing is on the list...

Ha ha, don't they just! We found that out yesterday. grin Do we have any idea where our one and only chisel is? Hell no! The door for the ex-kitchen is currently being held shut with the use of a door stop, while the plasterer is in there. (It's on his side so he can get back out. grin)

Liara Sat 22-Jun-13 20:44:11

Yes, I'm the plumber round here. Dh is the electrician. I bloody hate electricity.

Plumbing's OK, you just have to be stubborn and keep checking for leaks. But the plumbing in of this sink is no big deal, most of the stuff is right there and I just have to connect it up.

We got the terrace stones down and now just have to grout it. Haven't done the sink yet...

Well the plasterer was here yesterday, did a fantastic job at getting the walls repaired, and has gotten 2 walls and the ceiling done. He'll be back on Wednesday for the last 2, and boxing in the boiler. Also had electrician BIL here, who fixed and tidied up all the sockets on one side of the kitchen, so that's all working properly and looking lovely.

We thought all was going great until DD's bedtime, when we realised that our plasterer has managed to knock a nice chunk of plaster out of the wall on the nursery side where he moved a switch. Last minute hoovering, "fixing" the wall with masking tape, and a quick change of bed was all very exciting for DD, but she did eventually conk out after jumping on the bed for a while.

I'm sure our lovely plasterer will fix it, and we do still have a big tub of the paint we used, so we should be able to match it without painting the whole room, so not a disaster, just annoying. Sadly, our nursery was the only room I could truly say was finished, so feeling a bit disheartened at the moment. <mutters about taking one step forward and two back>

Aethelfleda Sun 23-Jun-13 19:33:44

Well, I got sidetracked by an enooormous load of washing, but have just put in the last set of window restrictors for our middle floor: so all eight side-opening UPVC windows now have working restrictors, which makes me feel a lot better (DS is a mad climber and the other two are big enough to be told not to lean out of windows). Our velux on the top floor are unrestricted but so high up I don't think they are reachable (even I need to stand on a chair to open them!)

Also repainted my raised beds and applied copper anti-slug tape. Bathroom floor calling me but the sofa's cooomfy....

I love that tape. My DM uses it for her hostas, it's the only way she can keep them from getting devoured. I'm still aiming for a duck! grin

We finally got the small bathroom finished late last night. Well, all bar replacing the mirrored cabinet, but it's out of stock at our local Ikea atm, so that will go up when we can buy one. All other fittings are in, right down to the curtains. We have a room finished! grin

Liara Mon 24-Jun-13 20:46:20

Ohh, does it work? We do have snail problems, far too many dry stone walls where they can hide and come and trash my plants at night. I have given up on hostas (they were devoured).

I've plumbed in the sink and discovered I'm missing a piece to connect the tap [sigh]. Curtains are up and terrace is laid and grouted though, so feeling quite happy. Not quite a room finished but almost there....

I'd love ducks, but I think the lack of a pond might be a sticking point...

Aethelfleda Tue 25-Jun-13 14:32:54

Shopping! Went today to buy new handles for the kitchen door (since we rehung it the handle clashes with the downstairs loo door so getting a knob rather than a handle to prevent this. Still need to wood filler the old hinge holes

Also bought a cheap remnant to cover the defect in the top dressing room where the old showers leaked (visble ply flooring repair is SO this season's look, dahling!)

And bought some trial MDF sheets, screws and panel pins to try panelling off in the eaves cupboard which will render it better storage by keeping in the badly stuck in insulation and making it feel more like a proper storage space.

So no actual DIY, but buying more materials counts, right???

<round of applause for mango and liara on bathroom completage and almost-done-a-room progress>

Aethelfleda Tue 25-Jun-13 14:34:58

Ps no idea if the copper tape works yet: prior to application the slugs little gits ate four strawberries, I'll keep a count of us versus them and let you know!!!

mamapants Tue 25-Jun-13 20:05:15

Does copper work against sheep? The slugs make fairly minimal damage compared to the sheep around here although if we ever repaired the gates that would probably help. But dp isn't allowed to do any work here only at the new house.
I've been getting fed up of talking about concrete and gravel and have started researching fun things like flooring and furniture.
We have I think decided we are definitely going for slate for kitchen. Starting to get excited about bathroom now after seeing some lovely limestone slabs unfortunately they seem to be £££

MabliD Thu 27-Jun-13 15:40:46

May I join you? We brought the house with the knowledge it was a do-er upper in September last year, but then in the first werk of October the pipes burst and basically destroyed downstairs and it's been a nightmare ever since!

Current to do list:

Finish stripping and waxing the bannister and put back up
Reattach hall and dining room skirting boards
Build fire surround and redo hearth
Replace knackered woodburner
New kitchen
Shelves up in living room
Finish tiling bathroom
Decorate all rooms except DDs and living room
Lay floor in our bedroom
Lamdscape garden demolish old outbuilding put up shed etc etc
unpack 425 boxes
there's more but it's getting v depressing to list!

So far we've managed all the wall demolishing, rebuilding, replastered downstairs and had new floors downstairs, plus decorated DDs room and the living room and half tiled and painted the bathroom but that seems very pitiful considering it's 8 months since the flood. Hoping that you lot can show me there's light at the end of the tunnel! All being done by DH in his after work and weekend time on a shoestring so can't expect too much at once from the poor bloke!

Liara Thu 27-Jun-13 20:20:45

Welcome Mabli!

Sounds like you have a big project in your hands!

Ours was basically a ruin when we bought 7 years ago. It's very, very slowly getting there, but it does all take its time!

mamapants Thu 27-Jun-13 23:42:40

Welcome Mabli.
Sounds like you are doing really well.
We are 2months into our project, I'm enjoying it so far- probably helps that I'm not doing any of the work yet and that we aren't living there while doing it.

Hello MabliD, that is a project and a half!

The ex-kitchen is now fully plastered, dry, and has a new floor in, so we can paint. Our B&Q had 2 2.5L tins of dulux for £25 this weekend, not sure if we'll need both, but at least we can swap one for a different colour. So many rooms that need painting I have no doubt we'll use it.

The "fix" to the hole in DDs wall didn't work. The putty oozed out down the wall. I can't be dealing with more workmen tramping in and out at the moment, so I'll be fixing it myself with polyfiller, in layers. <sigh>

Aethelfleda did the MDF work?

Liara we have no pond either, but BIL has a duck and no pond, just a good sized solid paddling pool! Like a pond, but no digging, and easy to clean out. Seems to work very well, and the duck is happy.

Aethelfleda Tue 02-Jul-13 16:30:23

<eyes up mdf sitting in hall, new knobs in packet and three children in various degrees of antsiness>

<sidles off to get coffee>

Aethelfleda Wed 03-Jul-13 13:45:12

Have planted out another part of the front border with instant-colour (yes, technically it's not DIY but it does make the front nicer and so (hopefully) endear me to the neighbours!) I always try to plant perennials as I feel annuals are a waste of money, but this year it will buy me time and as I have no colour sense it's a riot of red/yellow/purple!

And the knob is now replaced on the kitchen door to stop it entangling with the loo knob when both doors are open. The other two knobs are less urgent as just to make it prettier (tho I suspect doors will need painting soon to hide the marks from changjng the knobs over.) aargh, it never stops!!!

Oh and the MDF is actually IN the eaves cupboard awaiting time to screw it in place, which looks like it will work pretty well and if it doesn't need trimming that should be pretty quick. A bit hmm about how insubstantial modern houses seem to be though, there's no extra brick in the walls underneath the eaves, just plasterboard, joists and then the roof on top! And this is apparently a "well-constructed" modern house! <pines briefly for my lovely old but way too small 1930s terrace which was rock solid>

Well we have done NOTHING this weekend! Nothing DIY at least. Were out all day Saturday, then had a day off on Sunday, with the paddling pool out, and I actually put my feet up and stopped pottering. It was lovely. However I still need to paint DDs new room, and fill in the rest of the hole in the wall in her current room so we can paint over and finally move her bed back.

I think planting out on that scale counts as DIY, Aethelfleda. I chucked some cheap winter annuals in our front garden last autumn after the entire bed got trampled by builders. They are still going, and we have 3 times more than I put in! No idea how they've managed to do it. I also could have sworn we used all white, purple and pink things, but we seem to have red and yellow now too. confused

echt Mon 08-Jul-13 08:43:25

Joining this thread at the end of renovating our kitchen and bathroom. We're in Australia, so these rooms are near each other. The tradie wrangler came today to start the snagging. It's called that for reason, isn't it? Our renos were all done within the footprint of the original rooms, which makes the tradies whinge because they have to measure and make it FIT.grin

A good aspect of these improvements has been gaining the old separate lav as a storage area. It's on the cooler side of the house, so good to keep wine and veggies, as well as the inevitable coats, shoes, etc.etc.etc

We're doing all the painting ourselves to keep cost down.

Our eyes have turned to the living room, to rip up the carpet and tart up the pine floors, as we can't afford hardwood ones yet. And what do we discover? Termite-damaged wood, though just part of one board. We're assuming it's from the last infestation that was stopped in its tracks 10 years ago, as none of it looks active, and we've had the all-clear on two inspections that go under the house, where they said there had been an attack in the past, and in precisely the place where the floorboard is. Fingers crossed.

Aethelfleda Mon 08-Jul-13 14:30:03

Termites? Wow, I'm glad we're in the UK! and I have no idea how you Aussies manage with the presence of scary stuff like funnel web spiders, shudder

No DIY this end either: weather was too fab and too many things happening! Oh well, will re-jig my list and have another look.

On the up side our neighbours (who own a twin of our house) came to look at our refurbed bathroom and made admiring noises <shamelessly gratified even tho it wasn't my tiling/plumbing!>

hinkyhonk Mon 22-Jul-13 13:49:36

is this thread still active? or has the good weather put paid to the depressing never ending list of jobs to do.

We've just moved into an amazing house which on the face of it looked like it needed no work but thanks to eagle eyed DH and I and a full survey showed a good amount of crap we'll need to sort out. The dirt alone is quite stomach turning - they've taken the no need to clean an aga line very literally meaning the ingrained food debris on the hot plates is stomach turning.

We've just spent too weeks removing a vast amount of vegetation from the house so we can now see out of the three kitchen windows, see the damage to the annex but as yet the porch and the oil tank are still covered in brambles, 8 foot high nettles, a clematis and an evil rose. So that is on this weekend's to do list.

We've not even managed to tackle the graffeti ridden bedrooms including goodbye messages scrawled on the children's rooms baltantly written in the last month.....

<and breathe and try not to regret moving miles away from work>

Aethelfleda Mon 22-Jul-13 19:28:45

Hiya <waves>..... well, it's active if anyone else is still here: I refuse to be the only poster on a thread!!

I've been seriously slowed down by the summer (and three DC at home for the hols won't help either!) but still plugging away one job at a time. Latest thing is a willow panel and trellis to grow me morning glory up on the patio (v pleased as it has gone up straight and also shields the view of my back windows from the road so makes me feel more secure too)

Anyone else about?

Liara Mon 22-Jul-13 21:31:29

I'm around too!

Have been doing loads of work, much of it outside, but a bit in random bits and bobs so no distinct check lists ticked off.

Currently building a water tank for rainwater reclamation (we are off mains, all our water is from reclaimed rainwater).

There's a huge heatwave here with temperatures in the middle of the day over 35 centigrade, so we only work in the early morning though!

Flying post as I'm off to work, but the new bedroom has the first coat of paint on, and the kitchen counter tops are now in and matching for the first time in years!

They graffitti's the house before they left, hinkyhonk? shock Gits!

hinkyhonk Tue 23-Jul-13 22:10:12

Yep bastards eh

<waves to aethel>

hinkyhonk Sat 27-Jul-13 21:22:57

Anyone else feel decidedly flat after moving in?

We really do have an amazing house 1 mile from my m and d with a great primary school that DS1 us going to in Sept and lots if great stuff in the house (be-yoo-tiful oak flooring in the hall and kitchen, double glazed sash windows and the potential is amazing) but everything needs deep industrial cleaning and much repairing to do. It's like the last people, did a fantastic job on the extension 12 years ago then have done nothing since to maintain it.

I just don't feel like I thought I would and I'm really grumpy and shouty with the children which is really unfair on them. I don't feel excited to live here and I bloody well should. Any ideas why? Partly I worry if we can really afford it and partly it still feels like someone else's house.

Sorry rambled on blush off for more white wine

Aethelfleda Sun 28-Jul-13 19:00:06

Nah, you're fine: I think it's very much normal: house stuff is a big deal, enthusiasm often comes and goes in waves, especialy when the amount of stuff to do feels overwhelming/neverending.

We have a Structurally sound house with a million and one small maintainence jobs. If you can, pick a small "project" which will have fast and obvious benefit, then you can at least say "xxx is really nice now". For me it wa a bathroom job (and now working on the patio).

hinkyhonk Sun 28-Jul-13 20:12:56

Same here structurally sound house buys lots if jobs to do. We had some victories with a first degunking of a good few rooms yesterday and out some door hooks up and some other stuff too so starting to see some improvements. Def need to pick a room and focus on one to see some progress - at least git some if the graffeti off DS2's room to will start there

<puts head in sand and sings tra la la about the massive barn and outbuildings which are def not structurally sound>

Well it's not like you'll be living in the outbuildings, unless collapse is imminent, they can wait!

We had the nursery all sorted (DDs room, but she's moving to the new one and DD2 will be going in there) Then the plasterer managed to knock a hole through the wall. sad It's still not completely fixed as we decided to finish off the new room (aka ex-kitchen). On the plus side, we've now finished painting all the walls, and the ceiling. Blue all over, but with big sweeping green hills round the lower walls. The wall stickers of castles, trees and fairies are ordered. Just need to finish the woodwork (hopefully this afternoon), get electrician BIL in, and book our carpet fitter. Then we can make the furniture, hand curtains and call it finished. However I've decided to complicate things by modifying DDs bed after seeing this! So next weekend we might well be buying some MDF and more paint! I'll have to work out how to do it so we can still use the bed tent over the top.

Oh FFS. The wall stickers turn up for the castle mural. They're not as pictured and they're all creased. <grumps> So much for getting those up today, on my day off.

At least I know have a working plan of how we're going to modify DDs bed, and I've chosen fabric for that and the curtains.

Liara Thu 08-Aug-13 21:05:29

That bed looks fab! You need to post some pictures of what you end up doing!

I've been working on the garden. Decided to remodel a whole part of the front garden, including a little terrace/patio and a path. So far I've built two massive raised beds, laid half the patio and 10m of the path, have the same again to do still.

Lots of planting to look forward to in the autumn!

MummytoMog Thu 08-Aug-13 22:11:20

Creases will come out with a bit of a blast with a hair dryer - no help if they're not right thought sad

MummytoMog Thu 08-Aug-13 22:12:07

Though, not thought! Have you left the paint a week to dry as well? I made the mistake of not waiting once, and the damn things just peeled straight off again. Boo.

Not heard about using a hair drier on them before, thank you. I won't be trying to put them up just yet, the bits they were going on have been dry almost a week, so I will wait a bit longer, once I get the ones I actually ordered!

Liara, how tricky is the patio? We're hoping to lay a small one next summer. Raised beds are fab, my Mum has several and I'm a little jealous, they always look so nice. smile

As for the bed, it will hopefully all be going cream, with MDF panels for turrets/crennelations in cream with pale grey brick sponge prints. I'll be making drapes for underneath in pink gingham, and curtains to match. I'm quite excited about it as I love making things like that, but as I'm due in 5 weeks, I'm also wondering what I've let myself in for! grin

OverTheFieldsAndFarAway Fri 09-Aug-13 07:49:58

Hi, wish I'd found this thread when I was in the thick of it but am coming to the end now. I am posting as a kind of pat on the back to self. I have done a large 4 bed 3 bath house by myself ( except for kitchen fitting and knocking two rooms into one)
We don't live in the house yet and live 10 miles away so can only do bits here and there. I have been at it since January and am so pleased its almost ready to move into.
So far I have,
Filled and rubbed walls that wouldn't look out of place in A war zone.
Given all ceilings 3 coats.
All walls 2 coats.
Wallpapered feature walls in living room and bedroom 1.
Sanded and repainted what feels like 4 miles of woodwork.
Removed, sanded, repainted and rehung 20 6 panel doors.
Retiled en suite.
Removed and refurbished shower door.
Replaced extractors.
Replaced bath taps with shower mixer( that was fun!!)
Fitted rubber floor in bathroom, sealed and gave high gloss( non slip) finish......very proud of that one.
Removed old silicon and resealed bath, shower and basins.
Shampooed carpets in bedrooms and living room 3 times.
Rubbed down and repainted bannisters.
Sorted out huge gap along the wall/ stairs
Retiled and painted utility and downstairs loo.
Kitchen now huge and rather wonderful. Hi gloss cream, handleless, all drawers, all electric opening( you just tap and they glide open) two dishwashers, two ovens( same as Great British Bakeoff with slide under doors) huge gas hob, 2 wine coolers, a fab boiling water tap with its own little round sink.

I am using study as workroom as I am painting furniture for the hallway. Left to do;
Clean stair and landing carpets.
Clean study carpet.
Clean and polish hall floor.

I'm not up there in terms of skills with many of the posters but I have such a sense of achievement. So....Yay

MummytoMog Fri 09-Aug-13 13:48:45

What oven has a slide under door? I covet!

OverTheFieldsAndFarAway Fri 09-Aug-13 16:25:47


The Neff Circotherm range.

hinkyhonk Fri 09-Aug-13 20:03:22

Slow progress here but some minor victories

Replaced shower hose and head after they sprang a leak.
Replaced cord on Sheila maid after it wore through
Replaced blind in ds2's bedroom as the old one was knackered (sensing a theme here....)
Purchased 5 curtain rails to replace the old ones that are about to fall out of the walls.
Washed most if the graffeti off DS2's walls and will fill holes over the weekend so we're ready to paint next week
Oh and spent several hours collasping the millions of boxes from when we unpacked and sweeping out the barn they were stored in

All on next to no sleep as the boys are up several times a night each. They are 4 and 19 m and can do much better. How long does it take after you move for the sleep to get better. I'm on my knees...

Liara Fri 09-Aug-13 21:07:59

Mango, depends what you're laying it on, what you are laying!

Where it's flattish ground and more or less even stones, dead easy. Where (like here) it's over a stony pit in the ground, with huge differences in levels and varying thicknesses of stone, a bit harder.

Also depends on how level exactly you want the result, since we use very rough stone I'm OK with a few lumps and bumps so long as the water drains as it should...

doglover Fri 09-Aug-13 21:21:10

Please may I join? We moved into a renovation project about 3 weeks ago and are one week in to the task. Much of the work is beyond our capabilities - builder joining us at the end of August - but I'm currently decorating dd1 bedroom. Surprisingly, I'm rather enjoying it and getting a great deal of satisfaction from seeing it improve.

So far, we've had tree surgeons in to reclaim the garden, roofers in to mend the holey roof and several kitchen companies in to plan our new kitchen.

Next week, carpet laid in dd1 room,fences are being erected, a wooden gate installed, a back door knocked through into our kitchen and a new front door put in.

Exciting! smile

Hello OverTheFieldsAndFarAway and doglover.

Liara, there's lawn there at the moment. It looks quite flat, but this house has a way of suprising us. I want it to be flat enough to put a table and chairs on without any major wobbles. I have very little preference with regards to materials as long as they look passable and work.

doglover, we're doing DD1s new bedroom at the moment too. We reclaimed it from being a kitchen (our house was converted to two flats, we've converted it back) so the walls were a real mess, with piping, holes for extractor fans etc. We're just about to paint the woodwork, and the walls and ceiling are done. I'm so pleased with how it's coming along, I can't wait to get the carpet and furniture in. Very excited.

So far this weekend I have bought all the bits for the bed modification, marked them all up, and cut some of the MDF. Need to finish cutting, then I can get it painted and start the fun part of stamping on the stone work pattern. Then I'll have to wait until we get the carpet fitted before I can put it all together.

MummytoMog Sun 11-Aug-13 10:17:36

Well I was virtuous and did some bits around the house while I wait for the builders to be done with the loft conversion - filled and painted above the window in our living room (when we took down the old curtain rails, most of the wall came with it), chopped up more roof trusses for the woodburner, did a tip and charity shop run and put some stuff on eBay. Garage is still agonisingly full and if all goes well with the mortgage company, will be demolished in three weeks. I can't see how to avoid paying for storage sad I did wonder about moving the kids in together temporarily and using DS's bedroom as a storage's not too Victorian to make your toddlers sleep in the same bed right? It's a double.

Liara Sun 11-Aug-13 20:30:19

Finished the path and patio!

Mango,if there's lawn, you'll first have to dig a bit, get rid of anything that would be too spongy. You don't want your patio sinking! Then I would just put a whole load of sand, and lay stones directly on it. If you use quarried stones they will be nice and even, so it should be easy enough to lay them levellish. Do leave a 2-3% slope for the water to drain off, though, you don't want it flooded.

Unless it's enormous, shouldn't be too hard a job I shouldn't think (famous last words...)

Welcome doglover and overthefields!

Mummytomog, my two still sleep in the same bed (a big double) and they aren't toddlers any more (3 and 6). They love it that way.

Aethelfleda Thu 15-Aug-13 22:14:14

Ooh, I FINALLY wood fillered the door I changed the hinges round on about two months ago! blush Better late than never...

And I have been fantasy planning for our kitchen for next year... Looking at cunning corner cabinets, floor-to-ceiling larder cupboard and big freezer and fridge. Working out how to do this without extending will be fun.....

WetAugust Thu 15-Aug-13 22:34:23

Can I join please. I seem to fi your criteria of being a house renovator and DIYer.

3 bed semi which was last totally renovated (by me) 23 years ago and now needs doing again. I know every inch of the place intimately now.

Have completed hall stairs and landing - painted walls and woodwork and recarpetted. Just have loft hatch to gloss).

Have also completed Living room - engineered oak floors, painted walls and woodwork, renewed all furnishings.

Now moved onto the kitchen / utility adjoining, which runs the length of the back of the house. 3 sets of doors into this room which were varnished in mahogany varnish and are going to be brilliant white. So far each as had 4 coats of undercoat and are only now ready to gloss. Have painted utility ceiling and half the walls. Reckon I have another day's worth of undercoating, one day of wall emulsioning and one day of kitchen ceiling emulsioning left to go. Am waiting for quotations for new kitchen. Also need new flooring in utility as laminate has got wet over the years and is lifting. I want to tile it (15 sq metres).

When that's finished I'll do the porch (tiny) and downstairs will be complete. Then I'll move onto the big elephant in the room - the bathroom. I really DO NOT want to do the bathroom.

hinkyhonk Fri 16-Aug-13 08:13:37

We've continued hacking back the jungle around the house. I've scrubbed as much of he graffeti off as I can and this weekend we'll be applying basecoat to get rid of the orange and graffiti covered walls. I've been filling the million holes.left when our vendors took out all their picture hooks. Need to sand over to make sure its all smooth to crack on with tomorrow

Nearly ran out of oil this week so given the amount the aga guzzles we're 99% sure that we'll get rid of it on the spring and re do the kitchen. We hadn't intended to do it so soon but 'should' be fairly easy as we just want one run of base units and an island ad we already have a walk in larder and a Welsh dresser.

But big problem is heating in the kitchen once yhe aga has gone....

Aethelfleda Fri 16-Aug-13 08:18:05

Hi wetaugust <waves>

you're very welcome! We are in a relatively new-build (less than twenty years old, gulp), wanted a period property but this one is huge and in just the right location for us so we compromised: I'm in the middle of a million small jobs which will probably take 23 years to complete! We've got three youngish DC so it's slow work but the whole place is fine to live in so no rush....

RoseFlowerFairy Fri 16-Aug-13 08:43:35

Room for another one?

I am not any good at DIY. I am renovating though. I am working on my list of priorities.

Aethelfleda Fri 16-Aug-13 10:20:20

There's always room for another Rose!

<pours a round of brew in builders' mugs>

There's people on here who are are seriously DIying (plaster,floors, you name it!) and others who are directing the action... We all benefit from support though! What are you doing next in your place?

WetAugust Fri 16-Aug-13 11:37:11

Wish I was just directing sad

<grabs paint brush again - hates sight of paintbrush> sad

Hello all, and welcome WetAugust and RoseFlowerFairy.

Just had BIL finish the electrics in DDs room, so we can now crack on with it in the evenings as we have light. DH is just masking the walls so he can paint the skirting boards while I finish off the last coat of the built in cupboard this evening. I've been exhausted this week, so very little done otherwise. I still need to cut up the mdf for the bed, but at least we're nearly finished with the actual room. If we manage to get the woodwork finished tonight, we might be able to get the carpet in next weekend.

hinky, is it a big kitchen? Ours is fairly tiny, so we didn't bother heating it. It only has one outside wall, and is always a fairly nice temp, unless the entire house is freezing cold.

Liara, it will be a smallish patio, just enough for a seating area to eat outside. I think we'll ask our gardener if he'd be interested in digging it for us, would be money well spent.

WetAugust Sat 17-Aug-13 18:40:59

Well that's the last of the undercoating done and 2 of the 4 doors have been glossed both sides - quite pleased with progress today.

Deserve (have earned) a night off (rather than emulsioning kitchen ceiling as planned)

Have awarded myself a wine

hinkyhonk Sat 17-Aug-13 20:21:27

Kitchen is ridonculously large 8m by 4.5m with 3 external walls with 2 external doors (which rattle like fuck) and buckets of windows too.

Basecoat on graffetti room 1 walls today so they are a bit better but some shows through so we'll either have to do more coats or something else that covers it up. curtain rail up in spare room as sil coming to stay next week.

Atrocious behaviour from ds' today so feeling pretty pissed off about that wine needed me thinks

WetAugust Sat 17-Aug-13 21:14:19

I covet the size of your kitchen Hinky grin

When I was doing up the house after we moved in I had trouble covering black gloss paint on DS's bedroom wall and used oil based undercoat then emulsion. Worked very successfully.

Who on earth allows their kid to paint their bedroom walls gloss black?

SpecialJK Sat 17-Aug-13 21:17:10

Well done to everyone for what they've achieved so far! Recently moved to a 'project' 1960's house. Got architects coming round this week to give us ideas, but we know.

New boiler and central heating
New windows
Decorate EVERY room
Hack garden back and change where driveway is
Extension for kitchen / diner
Eventually a new oak/glass staircase

Going to take about 5 years we reckon!!

We did some of the garden today, and tidied up. Still trying to put boxes away after the move. Any advice on where to start? Or good places for windows? I'm thinking I'd like aluminium frames, nd also a megaflow boiler. Anyone have experience of those?

hinkyhonk Sun 18-Aug-13 19:41:33

Ni idea re windows I'm afraid or where to start. I guess new boiler before winter if poss so you don't get stuck in snowy weather with no heating.

Hmm looks like the aga is packing up. It's core temp is well down and still eating oil. Will be moving up the new kitchen up the to do list. But got to get some boring urgent roof and window quotes ASAP so we know the budget for the rest.

The painting is finished! Just need to get the carpet in, then the furniture, make the bed and curtains, and move all DDs stuff in. Hooray!

Carpet is now in, so I have a bed, wardrobe and shelving unit to make up. So glad we're nearly finished! How is everyone else getting on?

Trigglesx Sat 24-Aug-13 14:34:00

Dear god, I'm tired just reading this thread. I'd like to join, but I'm not nearly as good at getting it all done as you all seem to be!! I will have to do the bulk of my work either during school hours (between 3 school runs) or at night after the DCs go to bed. hmm

But I have tons to do. I've already started, having put down some flooring in the downstairs bathroom.


Bought our first home a few months ago; previously occupied since new by elderly couple, who appeared to have had no work carried out since.

- Knock down kitchen pantry wall to extend kitchen (currently is an L shape, this will make it a nice big square shape) as pantry is near useless
- Replace all internal doors - 12 of the buggers
- Electrician to repair two fans, and remove two light fittings in WC and bathroom which have weird heat fan things on them
- Replace floorboards upstairs
- Decorate x a million hmm
- New kitchen
- New bathroom (currently a grey shower room)

Theres probably tons more, but that is making my eyes water already

oh and they'd glossed some of the walls confused and ALL of the ceilings

They glossed the ceilings?!? <shudder> DH has just said that he hopes they're not artexed.

Out of all the jobs you've listed, that's the bit that I'd hate to have to deal with! sad Slightly jealous of your pantry removal / kitchen extenstion. Our kitchen is pokey, and has a tiny pantry in the hallway, which we've had to store the fridge in.

As for replacing the internal doors, at least if you're replacing you won't have to sand down the existing ones? I seem to have developed a serious aversion to sanding down gloss paint! Must be because this house has so much flipping woodwork in it.

One last trip out to B&Q needed for DDs bed room, as the new runners don't fit the curtain rail, so we either need bigger runners or a new rail. Then just got to fix the wardrobe to the wall, put a light bulb in the flower light over her bed, and make the bed up! We got all the flat pack made up (bed, wardrobe and drawers, shelving unit) got the under bed lighting in, the wall stickers up, and the flower light fitted. I still haven't managed to find time to finish cutting out the MDF to turn the bed into a castle, but I'm hoping we might get that done this afternoon.

Liara Mon 26-Aug-13 21:12:30

Hello everyone! And welcome!

I can go one better than gloss paint on ceilings - we had silver paint.

Yes. Silver paint on the ceiling.

The worst of it is that it was a beautiful, old, traditional wood and plaster ceiling. So we had to paint strip the whole thing, then paint the plaster bits white and then limewash it all. Took days, just for one bedroom.

We've been doing yet more work on the garden, trying to get everything set up for autumn planting. One bedroom and bathroom got finally finished, literally the day before guests arrived to stay there! Still have to make curtains for it, that's coming this week.

Have also built another pantry, as the one we had was too small for the millions of preserves we are in the middle of preparing. Finished plastering the walls today and have laid the floor. Now it only has to dry for 4 weeks....hmm. Then I'll be able to have everything nice and tidy!

Aethelfleda Sun 01-Sep-13 18:53:01

Hiya all, I have finally started a minor clear-up job on the family bathroom: sealanting the edge of the laminate where it was unsealed and with an untidy inch-wide gap at the side opposite the bath hmm

Pantry envy! Our kitchen re-do is on hold til next year so we can save to upgrade some of our appliances at the same time... Would love a full size pantry but it would never fit!

How's everyone else doing?

Going well here. DDs room is done, but still not made her bed into a castle. That's a project for mat leave. The nursery wall hole is fixed, sanded and repainted. It looks nice, so we don't have to repaint the whole room. New curtain rail is up in the landing, cot is built, and almost all the toys and clothes have been sorted out. Still need to finish putting the storage into the conservatory and dining room, then I think we'll stop for a bit and plan the next project. grin

hinkyhonk Mon 02-Sep-13 07:22:08

Right have three days off work with the children in full day childcare and the aim is to paint the boys bedrooms. One already has graffiti scrubbed off and a layer of base coat. The other has graffiti, blutack, holes and general crap to sort before I can even get a base coat on the walls oh and its currently orange...

Should be enough time to do though I have delusions of having enough time to get out in the garden ad well to continue the discovery of the kitchen garden which is massive and has been overcome by nettles and brambles which are so thick people don't believe there is a greenhouse in there.

Good luck hinky, hope the weather stays dry for you. And perhaps pours down once the greenhouse is revealed so it gets a good wash down!

puffylovett Mon 02-Sep-13 09:43:17

Ooh can I join in? You're all so inspiring with how much you are managing to achieve!

We bought our lovely old house 2 years ago. It was totally 80-fied with Artex ceilings everywhere and wood chip pattern wallpaper, new bathroom but with a hideous p shaped whirlpool bath and tiled floor to ceiling, kitchen is liveable do we are focusing on the rest of the house. Luckily it had been well up kept, although it has had a large conservatory added that is open plan to the kitchen, an arch door to the rear reception also open plan to the kitchen (so we freeze in winter!) and original door blocked up. My plan is to reinstate the original door and block up the arch to give us winter heat.

So far we have decorated 2 bedrooms (harder than sounds as walls needed a lot of work), renovated the hall (looks amazing!) and redecorated front reception after treating for woodworm and replacing floorboards ;( we've also fitted a woodburner.

We are now out of cash so everything is on hold bar the small jobs.. To do list -

Fit fireplace in front room so I can be warm while working from home and not paying for gas (we get free wood)
Build a window seat for my filing
Board out and skim the hole under the stairs
Build shoe storage
Make thick curtain for hall
Move water butt in garden
Artex fix the last bit of hall ceiling (its good stuff for small patches! We are going to overboard the remaining ceilings)

Start saving for our main reception space!
Nice to meet you all grin

hinkyhonk Mon 02-Sep-13 21:28:27

Definitely not going to be enough time to get out in the garden thus week. Got a basecoat on the walls but still some edging to do including buckets of books, crannies and pipes all of which are orange.

Graffiti scrubbed off apparently elodie's 16th birthday was wild and unforgettable and Sophie is a fat vie [hmmm]

hinkyhonk Mon 02-Sep-13 21:29:00

* cow and hmm

Those teens think it's ok to graffitti a house because you are about to move. Sophie has somehow managed to annoy them enough for them to write that. I like Sophie already! grin

Hello puffy, and welcome. I see you your artex ceilings and woodchip, and raise you anaglypta, in odd abstract patterns! We even have a mix of designs in the dining room. <shakes head> It does hide a multitude of problems, doesn't it. I can well believe your 2 bedrooms being a much bigger task than it sounds. We've just painted over it in our living room. At least it's just one design in there, small flowers, which kind of goes with the rest of the room. Looking forward to getting rid of it in the hallway, but that will be a truly mammoth task. Did your hall renovation include stairs and landing? If so did you get someone in, or brave it yourself? Ours will all have to be done together, so we're currently saving up for that. Pretty certain we will have to get the whole thing replastered, so I'm hoping we can save up enough to get someone in to decorate it all too.

puffylovett Tue 03-Sep-13 20:08:44

Hi mrsmango <waves>
We did our hallway ourselves. It took me weeks to peel off woodchip and layers of vinyl wallpaper that wouldn't come off even with a steamer, serious elbow grease! The manky old red carpet revealed a lovely black and white Minton floor though grin

Luckily my DH is a big bloke and a spark to boot, so has much experience of house bashing (hates doing it though, i won't tell you my patented technique for getting him to do jobs around the house grin) We opted to use artex fix on the ceiling, easy filled the walls and he spent a few evenings precariously balanced on the banisters reaching the bits I couldn't get to on my ladders!! It was a massive job, and the first we tackled - im so glad we did it first as you spend so much time walking through the hall and I just love it, it looks amazing. Silky smooth f and b walls, Minton tiles and a stripey red runner up the white stairs <swoon>

I hope that motivates you enough to get saving!!

hinkyhonk Wed 04-Sep-13 18:19:39

The orange is gone and I'm done in

Aethelfleda Wed 04-Sep-13 19:14:35

Hooray for hinky!

today I ......wait for it..... Nailed Three sheets of MDF panel over exposed beams in our eaves cupboard to stop the fibreglass from falling out and make it a more useful storage space. Baby steps!

Though in all seriousness PLEASE everyone be super careful in your DIY. I managed to hit a live cable at the weekend putting in a tiny picture hook. Am OK but it was a hell of a shock (in both ways) due to doing stuff while jetlagged. Just didn't think about leccy as on automatic, it was "only" a little hook.....

Ouch Aethelfleda, I hope you're ok. I took a shock from fairy lights years ago, still have the scars where the wires burnt my arm. The mental shock was worse than the physical damage, really shook me up. Not pleasant.

Well done on finally getting the MDF in though, did it work well?

Good work hinky!

puffy, I want your hall! Ours is dreadful, nasty anaglypta, frayed carpet, big dents in the wall, I tend to keep my eyes focused on our lovely front door when walking through it! grin I'm fairly certain we will have to get people in, neither DH or I are good on ladders. Just trying to decide if we do the hall as our next big project, or if we turn the conservatory into a laundry/sewing room rather than the dumping ground it currently is. We've got part of the storage in there (left overs from ripping out the ex-kitchen) but it needs a lot more.

Liara Wed 11-Sep-13 20:44:16

Ooh Aethel, that sounds nasty. I hate electricity with a passion. Fortunately dh doesn't so he's lumbered with it.

I spent all weekend sitting on a digger. I feel like I've been shaken to within an inch of my life. Had trouble going to sleep as I had that feeling when you're finally in dry land after being on a boat and your balance is all shot. Would hate to do it for a living!

Still, at least the trampoline is buried....hmm

Aethelfleda Thu 19-Sep-13 20:05:18

How's everyone doing? I've started on our top dressing room, it needs a complete repaint, have done the replacement skirting boards with one-coat satin gloss (I hate oil-based paints but that's what we had). Now need to get two coats of brilliant matt white on the walls and ceiling, then trim the carpet (we have a remnant that doe half the room where the old carpet was damaged. Hope to find another cheap remnant to do the other half til we can afford to recarpet properly). And then want to get it organised as a spare room/storage area. Started off OK but then got interrupted mid-paint... Need to restart! Oh and want to hang an electrical extension cable on the wall so it's out of DS's reach, but not even thinking about that til I've found the hidden-wire-locator as am now so paranoid about hidden cables!!! On we go....,

hinkyhonk Fri 20-Sep-13 15:06:08

Am in awe of aethel keeping up momentum I've ground to a halt. Still need to focus on finishing off bits for the ds' rooms, pipe painting and curtain taking up, more graffiti over painting them a top coat of emulsion. Also need to decide on curtains to soften the blackout blind in mini ds room but want something that will last. Are camper vans an odd choice?

Next mission is the kitchen but need to figure out the cost of the roof and windows to decide budget. How much does everyone else spend on kitchens. I know it depends on size and complexity but we are only after a straight run of base units and an island. Surely that can't be too expensive... Am on denial re the cost of new appliances too

Aethelfleda Fri 20-Sep-13 23:40:42

well, I've definitely had grind-to-halt moments hinky, I think it's inevitable whenever there are lots of things needing to be done, and then real life gets in the way all the time! I;ve nearly done the first coat of white on the top room now, Have wrapped the rollers and brush up in plastic bags so need to finish the painting before they solidify!!!!!
Will try to have another go sometime this weekend.....

Regarding kitchens, it's really a piece of string. My SIL got a nice IKEA setup including new appliances for about 3,000, but they saved by fitting it themselves. I have been ogling very expensive Lacanche ranges (strictly window shopping!) and John Lewis/Bosch full height fridges and freezers..... fortunately perhaps, we have no cash to redo the kitchen so are making do with the 12 year old but perfectly servicable one we have already. oh for a bigger freezer!!!

hinkyhonk Tue 24-Sep-13 10:54:34

we managed to put up two curtain rails over the weekend and some garden hacking was done which always puts me in a good mood!

the aim this weekend is to finish painting the boys bedrooms and we have a plan of how to do it this weekend so it might actually get done. if those are done then at least we can move on to do the next bit, although which bit is currently up for debate.

DH wants to do the spare room which I think is bonkers seeing as we are never in there and i would rather do our bathroom as it has no curtains and massive windows and was very chilly in the cold snap last week. it needs sorting asap imo and its somewhere we go every day so would see the benefit of it. but again what colour scheme in a bathroom?

so can we have a survey: what colour palette is in your bathroom?

Hello just coming over from buyers thread , just moved into lovely 4 bedroom late 1970s house that literally hasn't been modernised since then, Avacado bathroom suite and the original wooden kitchen that's seen better days, just pulled out dishwasher in kitchen to discover its been leaking and damp all along floorboards.
Ikea kitchen all designed online and plan to fit that ourselves in the next few weeks whilst simultaneously painting , filling, plastering and re flooring nearly every other room in the house.
We have already finished one bedroom so my sons furniture is going up today and we start my 2 younger girls rooms to tomorrow .
Bloody harder work than we thought it would be :-/

MummytoMog Tue 24-Sep-13 12:12:19

I want to hear more about the trampoline burying please - I have a digger in my garden right now and it sounds very enticing to bury the trampoline at the same time.

Other than that, we are living in hell. I won't ennumerate our woes again, but suffice to say that there is a single sheet of ply between us and the outside world in the living room, the bathroom ceiling has fallen in, the kitchen ceiling is on the kitchen floor and the plumber who moved our boiler ballsed it up.

BUT we got the chimney swept and a nice fire goes a long way to making me feel better. And I have a cupboard to paint tonight. And the remortgage came through. And Pinterest is giving me lots of brilliant ideas for how to use the new space in the house. So it could be much much worse.

Ikea kitchen planner is great though isn't it! A bit clunky and won't think outside the box, but I love being able to see how a room will look in 3D.

Liara Tue 24-Sep-13 21:56:29

What do you want to know about the trampoline burying?

We just made a great big hole, then levelled it using stones, built a stone wall around the leg bits, filled the gap to the rest of the hole with soil and more stones, flattened the area a bit, and then for good measure decided that what the area needed was some raised beds made out of stones and a path and a whole load of paving around the beds made in yet more stone.

Are you getting a picture of the kind of area we live in?

MummytoMog Tue 24-Sep-13 22:47:59

So did you just drop the trampoline into the hole? So then it was level with the surrounding garden? And you don't have to have a net? I quite fancy that, and it would make the trampoline less 'dominant' in our garden...

Hello again. Not gotten much done in the last week or so. We decided on a black/white/grey colour scheme for the hallway, so I bought fabric, and managed to make the new hallway and landing curtains last Sunday night. Was somewhat busy on the Monday, and DD2 arrived 00.16 on the Tuesday morning. Can't see us getting much done for the foreseeable future, other than maybe a bit of planning. grin

Aethelfleda Wed 25-Sep-13 18:57:50

Yaaaayyy!!! Congratulations mango, that's lovely!


hinkyhonk Wed 25-Sep-13 20:55:12

Welcome mini mango!!

Liara Wed 25-Sep-13 21:05:54

Congratulations Mango!!

MummytoMog, yes, I dropped the trampoline into the hole. I still have the safety netting on, as it was on a slope so the ground still falls off to one side, but it is still much less obtrusive.

Many people do remove the netting once it's sunken, though.

MummytoMog Thu 26-Sep-13 11:53:03

Congratulations! Liara, trampoline burying sounds awesome. I might make my builders a cake and see if they fancy digging me a big hole at the bottom of the garden with their mini digger in exchange for a sneaky backhander. Our trampoline is quite attractive as they go, but it does LOOM.

Liara Thu 26-Sep-13 20:31:42

I didn't have to because of my terrain (it's stony and sloping), but if water tends to accumulate where you are planning to put it do put in some form of drainage, or your dc could end up jumping on a pond.

But, yes, it does very massively reduce the amount of loom. It was getting me down, now I am suddenly quite fond of the thing. We have put some pretty coloured pebbles in front of it too, so I'm finding it almost appealing. Not sure what an attractive one would look like though, can you send me a linky to yours?

Any chance of a baby photo, Mango? [pleading eyes] I'm in a mood for cooing...

hinkyhonk Sun 29-Sep-13 07:24:45

Managed to paint another bedroom yesterday so both boys rooms are now blank canvases to put nice pictures up. Not a jot of graffiti in sight.

Next target is the royal blue bathrooms walls...

Baby photo now on my profile Liara smile She had her first bath last night, and DH stripped her off in the nursery, to which she responded by peeing all over the landing carpet as he tried to run to the bathroom with her! grin Good job we're looking to replace that carpet next.

Liara Mon 30-Sep-13 20:14:53

Oooh, thank you! So very cute!

Going misty eyed at the thought of all those pees triggered by taking off a nappy smile and blanking all those nights of not sleeping

Aethelfleda Sun 06-Oct-13 20:55:37

Awwww mango she's lovely!

Right, after another embarrasing break, this weekend I have planted 5 Hebe bushes in the garden. Wanted to do six but have been thwarted by discovering an enooormous lump of buried SOMETHING slabbish that I can't get all around quite yet... Need to excavate it and see how enormous it it (gulp), so far its about a yard wide and slopes down into the flowerbed and (erk) under the edge of the lawn... Part of me thinks I should just rebury and ignore it, the other part wants the Darn Thing Out....

And have finished painting the top spare room Brilliant White: it's by no means flawless but looks a lot neater than it did. Now need to fit two carpet remnants I obtained cheaply to provide short-term clean flooring (the old one was grim) until we recarpet the whole of upstairs properly when we have more ££.

Liara Fri 11-Oct-13 20:29:11

We've been planting too!

Went to a nursery and bought loads of plants, but have only so far planted about half of them. I need to clear the weeds out of where the others are going first!

I've also been building a tree house. Yes, that's right, half my house is unfinished and I have just taken two weeks to build a tree house hmm. I tell myself that if I wait until the house is finished my children will have grown out of wanting one.

hinkyhonk Mon 14-Oct-13 08:52:42

Bright blue bathroom is now white after two coats of obliterating paint. Gopping tiles will have to stay as too big a job to replace right now.

Got two questions for you people

1. An upstairs radiator has been leaking god know how long for but it's saturated an old wooden exposed beam in the sitting room downstairs and the plywood ceiling. We think we've managed to turn the radiator off so do I just let the ceiling and beam dry out on their own?

2. Where is good for curtain material? We nee new ones in the bathroom ds2's room and our en suite as a minimum with basically the whole downstairs needing doing as well. I'm handy with a sewing machine so will knock them up myself but having difficulty choosing the different fabrics. And obviously with this many curtains bedding doing cost is a consideration as well. So ideas of where to source please!

Aethelfleda Mon 14-Oct-13 14:09:21

Ooh liara, my kids would kill for a treehouse! Unfortunately our Oak is the only big enough tree and it's not spread out enough for one to be feasible....I am planning to negociate them down to a wooden Wendy Shed!....

hinky you're UK based, right? I would either suggest a fabric warehouse/mill shop, or see if you can find a linen supplier in receivership/bankrupt/relocating stock clearence. We got some fab blackout thermal curtains from Mostyn's (who are online sellers now, but did clearance sales of some of their retail outlets last year when we had just moved). Bargainacious!

Rather annoyingly I think I can see through some of the
Paint job in our top room: but the recarpetting is going well, and I also put a new floorboard section into our eves cupboard where the original builders had left a chuffing great hole six inch gap. So it's now got an MDF section bolted in extremely firmly with a pair of iron re-enforcers!
So so many things to do, but with all our baby steps we'll get there!

Liara Mon 14-Oct-13 21:30:31

Aethel, I didn't have the heart to put it in our big oak so ended up doing it over 3 much smaller trees, with another 3 posts concreted into the ground on the far side.

Much easier than trying to support it all on one tree, or maybe I'm a bit too much of a tree hugger to have the heart to put in enough bolts into a tree hmm.

hinky don't know where you are, but have you seen this site?

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